The PROBLEM With Deepwoken Balancing...

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Today's video is on the problems that happen with deepwokens balancing that promotes revenue over the community. Deepwoken progression is painful but it is necessary due to the rapidly shifting meta.
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0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Main Video
8:23 - EMERGENCY NUT TIER LIST YOU MUST WATCH
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@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
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@rain-ts9fx
@rain-ts9fx 7 ай бұрын
bro liked his own comment 😭
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
actually i didnt goober
@RexxOng
@RexxOng 6 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur I fully agree with this video, the deepwoken balancing is way off the charts, you make one meta build and next day, BOOM, gone. I personally agree with the "slightly nerf broken things and buff weak things", the things that need some buffs are gale and attunementless, they should really make it so all the attunements are "meta", or in short, make all attunements compete with one another, if a gale user fights flame, the flame user would win solely because gale is a bit shitty atm (its pretty good overall, just cant compete with other things) . If they were to make all attunements compete with one another it would make a great variety in builds instead of me getting on chime and seeing the same build 5 times in a row
@borrador548
@borrador548 7 ай бұрын
simple idea: just add diminishing returns to flame wisp healing so you don't heal a bar per mantra in a 1v5
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
real
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 7 ай бұрын
Here's to another year of Buff flame, nerf gale add a new shadow mantra.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
frfr
@pvpboy23
@pvpboy23 7 ай бұрын
as unfunny as these are its true af why did they gut gale hero and champions whirlthrow
@Sybz_0
@Sybz_0 7 ай бұрын
@@pvpboy23cuz buff flame nerf game it’s just how it goes
@landonrafferty5083
@landonrafferty5083 6 ай бұрын
​@@pvpboy23hero blade was unfair, and with champion idk
@M8theone
@M8theone 6 ай бұрын
@@pvpboy23Gale hero blade was stupid, champ whirlthrow was nerfed to make it like all the other gbs Which is dumb because it has the SMALLEST HITBOX out of all of them, so it needed the hyperarmor
@Jackylantern12
@Jackylantern12 7 ай бұрын
my own issue with chimes is that the deepwoken balancing people consist of absolute idiots who glaze attunments and basically rewards spammers for being losers
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
real
@dascreeb5205
@dascreeb5205 7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if the wisp heal actually increases significantly on hitting multiple targets. I tested it immediately on multiple different groupings of mobs, and it seems to have inverse scaling, I don't know why it wouldn't be like this on players.
@Dasilentboi
@Dasilentboi 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the BEST shadow mantra dark blade. Also with tornado spark, while the extra hit is being done you can parry!
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Dasilentboi
@Dasilentboi 6 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur np realcounter
@ennchampment
@ennchampment 7 ай бұрын
honestly on top of all this it just feels like they only ever do PVP changes or additions in the updates. It’s always just talent reworks, new mantras, mantra reworks, new attunement paths etc etc. The thing that really annoys me about deepwoken now is just… when was the last time they actually added onto the world? In deepwokens 2 year history, it feels like they’ve hardly ever added any new islands, new monsters, new bosses, new random encounters, or new quests even. The only time they’ve added anything like that was in verse 2, which was a year ago. It feels like there’s still so much potential for adding to the game yet they focus on purely just combat.
@juicespiller456
@juicespiller456 7 ай бұрын
they're buffing mantras cus 80% of the mantras in this game suck flamecharm has the most mantras that are good, the other attunement should be like it every build with an attunement has the same mantras
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
true
@anthmantastic
@anthmantastic 7 ай бұрын
first nut of the new year! thanks, reaconteur.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
You bet!
@hmmm.324
@hmmm.324 6 ай бұрын
5:36 I honestly agree. I mean, they have made lots of QoL changes to increase progression speed, but it still takes so long. Also, "6-8 hours" is an understatement. As a solo player, it takes me 15-20 hours of ingame time or around 3-5 days of playing deep to truly minmax a build. From grinding for the master armor, all the way to farming ethiron for medallions, it takes so damn long to get the build I want. At times, I quit half way cause it turns out, my build got nerfed/other builds are much better, other times its because I'm trying to minmax too hard and I get burnt out (grinding for medallions and best possible equipment is hell on earth). So far, I haven't played deep for 3 months now, and I'll comeback possibly for conquest or the new world events. Until then, I hope deep gets a lot better in terms of overall quality of life.
@k1yoke1
@k1yoke1 6 ай бұрын
skill issue, i minmax builds within like 4-5 hours. no exaggeration. i literally made 5 builds in one week. as a solo player fyi. (this is not counting FULLY minmaxed armor, must be a weirdo to have 5 35%+ elem 50% phys 90+ hp kits.)
@adogewithwifi1652
@adogewithwifi1652 6 ай бұрын
Atleast now u don’t need many good kits of gear since u can bank em now to all slots
@tsunyn9592
@tsunyn9592 6 ай бұрын
@@k1yoke1 you just got too much free time idk what to tell you lol also you're literally just lying p8 to p15 prog is at LEAST 2 hours of prog, then you spam bosses and take another like, an hour or two more to get max level (that is if you don't exhausted of doing the same shit over and over again for 2 investment points) you then go bell check, run l2 for deepshore/medallions (usually 30~40m for both f1 f2 if its your first time doing it on that slot and you're actually playing solo as you say). this isn't even counting getting your oath, the time sailing, the time going left and right to level up mantras, and the downtime of doing things like killing kaido or even doing voidwalker bounties if you're one. Its a hassle, because not everyone has that much time to spend, and most of the times just get frustrated and quit progging that build to begin with, because progging is NOT. FUN. (besides deepbound but even that shit is mad annoying with the amount of wannabe nightcrawlers running wild) It's... not fun doing the same thing for prog because if you DON'T do it, you'll end up taking 3x more time progging a build. the exp curve that goes after p15 is fucking insane, it sucks and genuinely makes me want to quit the game the moment i hit p15, because i know i'll be spending another hour spamming bosses to get levels. (also u probably won't even read this but whateva)
@wood5596
@wood5596 6 ай бұрын
Another diverse thing that they just absolutely gutted was True ether bullets. That talent let you proc elemental effects on your gun m1s if you used ether bullets. This let you synergize with your attunement so much more on gun builds without going a legendary weapon, but leg weps have unique abilities and save points so the trade off is still there. It got gutted literally because lava serpent didn’t have a cooldown back then. And now what are guns in the meta? They’re projectile spamming passive weapons focused on cheesing out your opponent. Before they used to let you choose a diverse set of attunement builds that relied on m1s.
@ultimate3000
@ultimate3000 7 ай бұрын
I think shifting the meta every week is good but if there's only one meta and everything else is bad then that's bad
@ektasis
@ektasis 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, flame is pretty good I don’t know if top 3 material, but the mantras, talents and oath (arcwarder) are all good. I would definitely make buffing attunementless a priority, not any other attunement. I really like your suggestions, but I do think that in a game like deepwoken, there will always be attunements superior to the others. We just have to try to limit how superior they are.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
gale is on top
@ektasis
@ektasis 7 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur fr but unlike most other attunements, u need half a brain to play it ( No humongous hitboxes 😱)
@pariahfrl
@pariahfrl 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@ektasis gale players don’t even know their own next move and just throw it out, it’s like guarding kyrie
@alen448
@alen448 6 ай бұрын
@@ektasis Gale lunge's hitbox is the whole map. 'nough said
@ektasis
@ektasis 6 ай бұрын
@@alen448 you seen a modified flame assault?
@somethingweirdthenewultra5796
@somethingweirdthenewultra5796 6 ай бұрын
I have had this video on loop for several hours now. Thank you for this.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@govnolep
@govnolep 7 ай бұрын
Black flame is a direct upgrade to shadow btw, because it now procs burn damage and flame talents
@ibiim4209
@ibiim4209 7 ай бұрын
it doesn't steal ether but rather delete it but i get what ur saying
@pimblon2051
@pimblon2051 7 ай бұрын
@@ibiim4209It steals, i've hit shadow guns that recover all my ether instantly
@manogami7670
@manogami7670 6 ай бұрын
Agamatsu gigantic shadow gun vídeo in my opinion show why deepwoken its soo cool and its different how IF you want a cool build and viable, you can do it
@jmoney6421
@jmoney6421 7 ай бұрын
the issue with flame in my opinion is the talents that make your enemy explode aswell as eruption and the amount of particle effects it lets out compared to something like gale, why would you go gale or ironsing if you could just go thunder or flamecharm and preform better. Also werent attunements made for specific playstyles? rn it just feels like thunder does it all
@kufo772
@kufo772 6 ай бұрын
Gale literally does a bar per mantra😭
@jmoney6421
@jmoney6421 6 ай бұрын
Only heavenly wind and astralwind CAN do a bar, thats 2 mantras, maybe gale punch but ive not seen anyone use it for a while, meanwhile flame and thunder do bars on litterally anything they choose, Gale is litterally attunementless with bigger lungs and semi silentheart
@kufo772
@kufo772 6 ай бұрын
@@jmoney6421 gale punch does a bar rising wind is a combo extender that does half a bar astral does a bar and gale trap is just forced suffocation
@jmoney6421
@jmoney6421 6 ай бұрын
@@kufo772 since when does rising wind combo extend? And yeah thats what galetrap is for it does 0 and suffocates i dont get your point its still not as viable as flame and thunder and MAYBE shadow idk
@Randomguy-yy4gl
@Randomguy-yy4gl 6 ай бұрын
@@jmoney6421rising wind is Gale main extender
@FreshieFisher
@FreshieFisher 6 ай бұрын
Does any1 know the song that starts at like 1:14?
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
green path hollow knight OST
@thecatbehindtheslaughter2244
@thecatbehindtheslaughter2244 7 ай бұрын
Honestly I've never seen anyone call Twisted GOOD, let alone meta
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
nah its peak
@Ad3pT.
@Ad3pT. 7 ай бұрын
With the new flame wisp change it’s probably an actual direct upgrade from flame
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 7 ай бұрын
@@Ad3pT. Twisted does almost nothing with flame wisp
@keento8911
@keento8911 7 ай бұрын
@@historicflame972shadow mantras heal you with flame wisp and twisted
@manwithoutaplan3077
@manwithoutaplan3077 7 ай бұрын
@@historicflame972 it still procs healing
@lemonnerd3891
@lemonnerd3891 7 ай бұрын
I agree but my only complaint with planetary servants was people would just run and spam it and half the time it would clip through the wall so you couldn't even see what was happening and then you'd take like a bar and they'd do it again in 10 seconds but aside from that w vid
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
yeah it was bad because the playerbase is lame asf
@lemonnerd3891
@lemonnerd3891 7 ай бұрын
agreed tbh
@thecomet653
@thecomet653 6 ай бұрын
They have to inhale before they do it so you legit know when it’s coming ur just dumb
@scar9237
@scar9237 6 ай бұрын
0:02 whats the music called?
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
spooky galaxy mario galaxy ost
@ace4339
@ace4339 6 ай бұрын
is there going to be a stream this week or are you still in japan?
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
japan until jan 14th
@ramenslug1383
@ramenslug1383 7 ай бұрын
Attunementless in the current meta it's either "strength the build" or a support build
@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879
@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879 7 ай бұрын
real
@Anosakura
@Anosakura 6 ай бұрын
god’s left >
@thecomet653
@thecomet653 6 ай бұрын
@@Anosakurabut it doesn’t even block break anymore so it’s still useless
@sanecultist5217
@sanecultist5217 6 ай бұрын
I made an Isshin sword Saint build 🤭🤭
@ramenslug1383
@ramenslug1383 6 ай бұрын
@@thecomet653 tbf with the right build u can make strong left deal like a bar
@robertromanul2212
@robertromanul2212 6 ай бұрын
Honestly just shame on them for repeatedly copying basic mantras repeatedly from Flamecharm like Flame Grab and Fire Blade and giving every attunement it's variant. If the attunements were more vastly different then the meta wouldn't settle so quickly.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
every attunement has at least 2 of the same mantra as another attunement
@CrazyCrazyOverLord
@CrazyCrazyOverLord 6 ай бұрын
Love the Octopath Traveler Ost use in the video
@ImTechTails
@ImTechTails 6 ай бұрын
i still go attunementless and now ive just made all of my builds into the ultimate gimmick build blessed gem gaze + level 5 blessed gem strong left I call it the "Haha you're playing in 200 ping now" build
@aresoo-gn7kk
@aresoo-gn7kk 7 ай бұрын
radiator when is "how good of a grilled cheese sandwich will thesd rogue lineage npcs make tier list ?"
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
idk but big hoss on top
@t.e.6415
@t.e.6415 6 ай бұрын
Hope this year will be a least a bit brighter for gaming and life in general. (Pls pray that i get better grades so i can get to university)
@LisaWilliams-jb5re
@LisaWilliams-jb5re 6 ай бұрын
Thanks again for the video ranandandater😢
@bigbird4343
@bigbird4343 6 ай бұрын
Another year of edging to radiators videos 👍👍🙏🙏
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
More to come!
@theboredgamer7236
@theboredgamer7236 7 ай бұрын
YOOOOOOOO ANOTHER TIERLIST
@pyremis
@pyremis 6 ай бұрын
This. I like deepwoken combat for being unique, but the balancing genuinely frustrates me
@Kaidou-chan
@Kaidou-chan 7 ай бұрын
"MASS HEALING" my dude, the healing is a shadow of it's former self. best rework ever tbh cant complain
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
healing 1 bar with a flamepalm in question:
@Kaidou-chan
@Kaidou-chan 7 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur I need to see it to believe it. maybe most of those people didn't roll immediately after and it was like 8 of them, which to give flame more healing in bossraids seems perfectly balanced to me
@A-Fishy-Potato
@A-Fishy-Potato 7 ай бұрын
Why did u put a video of fire blade while talking about dark blade
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
that was dark fire blade oops
@cheesetoasties9550
@cheesetoasties9550 7 ай бұрын
Everywhere i go its dual attunement now 😭
@GoldtheGoldenone
@GoldtheGoldenone 6 ай бұрын
nobody really knows this yet but Lava serpent path got a massive nerf with the wisp change. you have to actually land the Lava and the dmg from the lava blast is what heals you. like bruh even with a deepfire ring it's hard to actually land the eruption and the dmg from that is so low that you practically don't heal anything at all
@shlemet
@shlemet 6 ай бұрын
i love you reaconter but where is the rogue lineaghe i asked for 4 months ago
@Nydodith
@Nydodith 6 ай бұрын
Bro cooked this episode
@EnderSalad
@EnderSalad 5 ай бұрын
Someone tell this guy you can buy pistachios without the shell
@Ad3pT.
@Ad3pT. 7 ай бұрын
This horrible mage meta has truly killed the pvp for me😔 I no longer enjoy the game
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
painful
@Archenhailor
@Archenhailor 7 ай бұрын
so this is why i spent so long making my perfect build and having to wipe over and over again
@MeliMentae
@MeliMentae 7 ай бұрын
Remember when we used to complain about Attunementless clone troopers? Now we complain about mages who are almost unstoppable...heh.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
yeah... its almost like we've reached og status....
@pimblon2051
@pimblon2051 7 ай бұрын
The frost hero blade dread breath lava path clone troopers are cringey as hell.
@m5nti
@m5nti 7 ай бұрын
archmage: dont buff or nerf ice, just add mantras, nerf flame but add some mantra, do nothing to gale and let it stay pretty good, nerf ironsing, and buff shadow and give it 50 mantras
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
real
@speedlife735
@speedlife735 7 ай бұрын
I lov3 frost so much
@ohakol7128
@ohakol7128 7 ай бұрын
Shadow needed the buffs tho
@detake8128
@detake8128 7 ай бұрын
thundern ot even in the qeustion?!?!?#
@cliiiiiq8787
@cliiiiiq8787 6 ай бұрын
the shadow thing is dumb , you could have every shadow mantra in the game by like power 15 before they started adding more , and shadow still doesnt have the most mantras, and 90% of the ones it does have suck , rising shadow nerf , buff everything else
@rednessgod5729
@rednessgod5729 6 ай бұрын
Make the flame wisp healing decrease with the amount of players you heal from (like the bloodless nerf)
@JamalJackson-ck1pk
@JamalJackson-ck1pk 6 ай бұрын
They gutted flame wisp for pve specifically it hurts😭
@Andres-np7lf
@Andres-np7lf 6 ай бұрын
FINALY someone speaks the thruth
@cuppaal
@cuppaal 7 ай бұрын
Is attunementless that bad??? 😭 i was just a day ago CoOkiNg up a lft dawnwalker attunementless build for it to be my main, but damn. Also i could tell gale is the best, cause everytime i fight a gale mf in chime i get pieced up like a chopped tomato so fast 😭
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
its awful
@theweird4thewe281
@theweird4thewe281 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the debuffs are good
@drepyburpb8484
@drepyburpb8484 7 ай бұрын
Random question: anyone feel like hp scaling for bosses is kinda dumb? like fighting a boss by yourself is already boring enough and you're gonna punish us for trying to make it fun by ganking it with friends.
@intakaa
@intakaa 6 ай бұрын
For everything else I agree but they either gotta rework or buff dukes hp
@iamayumpig
@iamayumpig 6 ай бұрын
no not really, you can easily switch out and heal. having 1 extra person is a huge advantage against bosses.
@LulaTV123
@LulaTV123 7 ай бұрын
Tierlist tierlist whats the next?...... (never tasted pestaccio what does it taste like)
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
its a nut and its salty
@drewsillytoo
@drewsillytoo 6 ай бұрын
4:43 the developers stopped trying to make deepwoken in their original vision years ago. layer 2 drove that point forward, and it's way too far gone now
@vincor9245
@vincor9245 6 ай бұрын
Silentheart needs a crazy rework, as right now my silentheart build is genuinely horrible against mage builds as i cant do anything against mantra spammers. Mani Katti isnt landable against anyone with a working neuron in their brain with everyone having tapdancer, and ankle cutter is the most predictable thing in the game. People who say silentheart is boosted have either never tried using it against a mage build or are just salty they lost. Please buff silentheart my beloved 🙏
@mervonz
@mervonz 7 ай бұрын
Flame wisp got reworked because every non flame charm build had flame wisp for a free passive heal
@Xeronicalamium
@Xeronicalamium 6 ай бұрын
came for the deepwoken balancing problem, stayed for the emergency nut tier list.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
hello xero
@Xeronicalamium
@Xeronicalamium 6 ай бұрын
hi@@Reaconteur
@Karpizzzzzz
@Karpizzzzzz 6 ай бұрын
flamecharm has 2 guard breaks, high healing bloodless mantras (it wasn't carried by flame wisp alone)
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
no chaser tools, no combo extenders, no zoning moves. gale is on top rn
@nick-jm1wx
@nick-jm1wx 3 ай бұрын
deepwoken needs to hire this guy, and Reacounteur i edge to your videos
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 3 ай бұрын
thank you
@perenber7462
@perenber7462 6 ай бұрын
With my shit attention span your videos are the only ones i can watch without skipping forward
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
thank you
@DarthLockz
@DarthLockz 6 ай бұрын
Mann i just love the teir list
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
same
@TheScarletShadowYT
@TheScarletShadowYT 7 ай бұрын
BALANCING? WHAT'S THAT? SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU WITH ALL THE MESS MY 1-SHOT SHADOWCAST HYBRID BUILD IS DOING!
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
real
@e444e
@e444e 6 ай бұрын
Azure flames being wiped out of existence because of some amaterasu ass flames 😭
@rorandooo
@rorandooo 6 ай бұрын
the only thing flame needs is to remove the dumb million particles that hide every animation
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
lava serpent covering your entire screen with detonation
@0_712
@0_712 7 ай бұрын
flame mid mantras??? idk bout that one but good vid
@kizanovas
@kizanovas 6 ай бұрын
I remember old etris ganks at nomad, chaos, reapers everywhere, screaming kids in vc. Than out of nowhere someone fire eruptions half of etris and does a bar of damage. This is what we need back, nerfed ofc.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
real
@greathive
@greathive 6 ай бұрын
Ngl I think regardless of whatever devs do there will always be meta builds. No matter how balanced the game gets there’s always going to be those meta builds.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
yeah but they arent trying to promote diversity
@jayfogo
@jayfogo 6 ай бұрын
This has always been true but the difference is in verse one I could rdeadass go into chime with a weapon and at most a singular mantra and feel on equal footing with the meta builds back then Cause honestly the combat felt a lot less braindead then it does now For example feinting didn't have end lag meaning you had to think fast on your feet to decide if you need to dodge or wait for them to use something and people couldn't spam mantras since ether was quite literally limited meaning you had to be good at m1's if you wanted to constantly have ether and vent didn't exist venting rn is a get out of jail free card but the really bad thing about it is that there are people that can only do it twice or so per match and then there are builds that can use 5 times in a row So ye meta builds existed back then and will always exist but at least the.combat let EVERY build be viable
@pepsoreal
@pepsoreal 7 ай бұрын
Pistachio in A is criminal
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
im not tryna play a videogame for nut in my mouth bruh
@Berryrn
@Berryrn 7 ай бұрын
tierlist are BACK BABY.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
yes
@anaverageheir2836
@anaverageheir2836 7 ай бұрын
Although I do disagree with the takes that flamecharm had nothing besides flame wisp. There is one thing that I actually believe determines how strong an attunement is. And that is something that I call mantra consistencies; whether or not a mantra is consistent and will perform its intended use. Basically if a mantra can be thrown out with little to no consequences with the reward being high. Of course attunements are buffed up by their respective talents but overall their performance is determined by the mantras they use. For example thundercall, thundercall's talents are arguably some of the worst in the game (outside of surge) yet still manages to be good. That's because Thundercall has the most consistent mantras in the game, those being: storm blades/storm cage, jolt grab, rising thunder, lightning clones (static clones), electro carve, lightning stream, and lightning cloak. All of those mantras are very consistent and will usually land a reward for the user in some way. That was seven mantras in counting, the most in the game. But it still doesn't make Thundercall the best in the game, as that title now goes to shadowcast. With dark blade, shade bringer, shadow eruption, shadow chains, rising shadow, and shadow gun all being consistent mantras. But what makes shadowcast the best if it has less consistency than thundercall, it's simple: the talents. As I have said before the talents buff their attunements but not as much as their mantras. That is true, however majority of shadowcast talents proc on mantras; making the two synonymous with each other. Now to make things short in conclusion attunement viability is dependent on mantra viability. Now there is an extra factors where attunements become better than the rest depending on how long a gank is. Such as Shadowcast because of ether sustain, Flamecharm because of health sustain, and Scrapsinger because of its armor drain. I won't count Galebreathe because its mobility is what carries it in ganks, and with conquest coming out soon that mobility will likely be nerfed.
@anaverageheir2836
@anaverageheir2836 7 ай бұрын
Also I'm not saying that Thundercall is the best attunement currently in the game. Although it is either 3rd or 4th imo.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
gale on top
@tenosicks
@tenosicks 6 ай бұрын
excellent "i got 4v1ed as a jus karita gale user" video
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
yes
@incription
@incription 7 ай бұрын
i want pve on ly mode with pvp turned off pls
@analyzone
@analyzone 6 ай бұрын
why doesn't rake hunter just only make tier lists
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
idk
@freddiestorer917
@freddiestorer917 7 ай бұрын
Fully agree BRING BACK JETSTRIKER TECH AND RIFLE SPEAR CARRING MOMENTUM
@perenber7462
@perenber7462 6 ай бұрын
Planetary sevants was cool and unique
@Clumsykae
@Clumsykae 7 ай бұрын
Yooo W my clip was in there
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
yes it was 💯
@SixteenTheNavaran
@SixteenTheNavaran 7 ай бұрын
black flames is some hot buns 😭 just go azure reaconteur you mentioning black flames ruined my edge and now im sad 😢
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
sorry i ruined it
@evilahhmf
@evilahhmf 6 ай бұрын
i flinched every time you said "ether" im out to get you bro.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
😭
@thedarling0002
@thedarling0002 7 ай бұрын
u can get pistachios without shell in most supermarkets
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
never seen em
@GodspokenYT
@GodspokenYT 6 ай бұрын
I was basically forced to make a flamecharm build because of the meta 😭
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
gale is better though
@GodspokenYT
@GodspokenYT 6 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur fire blade:
@gamergod4903
@gamergod4903 3 ай бұрын
W tier list
@speedlife735
@speedlife735 7 ай бұрын
Now that flam3 wisp is gon3 will p3opl3 us3 potion now!? PL3AS3 BRO POTIONS AR GO4LY
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
nope
@ohakol7128
@ohakol7128 7 ай бұрын
Lowkey forgot healing pots wetr a thing, its been 2 years since i saw someone using it lol
@playamonkey2350
@playamonkey2350 3 ай бұрын
HIRE REACONTEUR!!!!!
@1akke.
@1akke. 6 ай бұрын
flame charm in no way is terrible without flame wisp u get burning servants which prior to the update was a 30 posture move that was semi-instant with 3 rush 3 drift, flame blade which is a gb and flaming scourge, and not to mention the damage + healing that comes along with it.
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
gale is way better rn
@shai4830
@shai4830 6 ай бұрын
i think flame wisp would be best if it only healed some of the damage you take from flames
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
true
@thecomet653
@thecomet653 6 ай бұрын
That’s literally what it does what is blud yapping about It takes 20% of flame dmg and gives it to you as lifesteal
@shai4830
@shai4830 6 ай бұрын
@@thecomet653 current flame wisp takes all the flame damage you do and turns a percent into healing im saying that flame wisp heals some of the burn damage you take. current flame wisp is busted in ganks because if you set a lot of people on fire you get a lot of healing but you get very little in 1s with the way i purposed the difference in healing would be very little
@williamnoel8621
@williamnoel8621 6 ай бұрын
Nice video
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@williamnoel8621
@williamnoel8621 6 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur can you make a arcane Odyssey video the new sea is coming out this year 🙏🙏🙏
@northwindonline6344
@northwindonline6344 6 ай бұрын
This is honestly true, I hate to be "that" guy, but the amount of times I see a mod in DW get their ass beat by something that is nichely good or has a unique mechanic only to see it gutted in the next balance patch (Detonation enforcer axe for example, I Never even used that myself but it was a unique way to make detonation more viable for heavy weapons), Then it gets gutted cuz it beat one of the mods in chime lol. Saying deepwoken promotes diverse builds in this day and age feels like a lie, Sure you can make something unique but it'll be garbage and trash to the meta thing, And if it DARES be decently good or you beat a mod with it, It'll get gutted and unusable.
@Fg_on_top
@Fg_on_top 6 ай бұрын
Glorious king meat is wild😭😭😭
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
💀
@The_RealCheff
@The_RealCheff 7 ай бұрын
Chef oath would be perfectly balanced ngl
@mumboo430
@mumboo430 7 ай бұрын
4:28 OMG original deepwoken mentioned?
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
yes
@adogewithwifi1652
@adogewithwifi1652 6 ай бұрын
Why does recounter refuse to call flame a good attunment lmao
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
it’s MID gale is better
@rednessgod5729
@rednessgod5729 6 ай бұрын
You forgot abt almond water
@Overlapinion
@Overlapinion 6 ай бұрын
GIVE US WATER ELEMENT ALREADY OR NECROMANCER!
@widecooldaniel
@widecooldaniel 7 ай бұрын
love you
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
love you too
@xtra_1807
@xtra_1807 6 ай бұрын
Imagine how much more fun deepwoken would be if chime was removed, fuck the 10% of the playerbase who plays only for chime lets make the game fun again
@JamarGhost
@JamarGhost 7 ай бұрын
Rectangular Corner try not to complain about anything challenge (Impossible)
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
true
@Zetsu180
@Zetsu180 7 ай бұрын
I like how he says flame is unviable when its the best mantra and most unbalanced with insane hitboxes unfair damage m1 damage buffs fire blade and having the only mantra that heals
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
gale is way better than flame rn
@unity9214
@unity9214 6 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteurin what way?
@Zetsu180
@Zetsu180 6 ай бұрын
@@Reaconteur say you dont play without saying you dont play
@luckygirl7324
@luckygirl7324 7 ай бұрын
mfs complaining about the verse 1 attumentless meta didnt realise it was the calm before the storm
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 7 ай бұрын
skull
@BlindSpectet
@BlindSpectet 7 ай бұрын
or make Reactor (Reaconteur) a dev ALSO YAY TIER LISTS R BACK :DDDDD
@slime-kh8yj
@slime-kh8yj 6 ай бұрын
spicy pistachios are really good, A+
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
never had
@JohnTheLaserGuy
@JohnTheLaserGuy 6 ай бұрын
Bro really cant stop making deepwoken vids
@gunsinposes107
@gunsinposes107 6 ай бұрын
wtf where were the cashews
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
never had em
@nobo_real
@nobo_real 6 ай бұрын
I have no idea on why i'm watching this, i don't even play deepwoken anymore. Nice video though!
@Reaconteur
@Reaconteur 6 ай бұрын
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