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Statistics can be made to say almost anything. Especially if it involves change over time. In statistics it is very important to look at the sample for bias. INFJ

Ya so true and such brainwashed robots

As an INTP, it took me a long time to realize that not everything can be made rational, in fact most things aren’t rational, but we rationalize them based on our subjective realities.

I was literally just debating with an INTJ about this. He refused to consider a new perspective that was not based on statistics and no matter what I tried to present to him (even through logic) he could not understand my point. But I think he was younger.

Persistent One They seem the opposite

NTJs are usually NFJs enemies: Cold Leaders vs. Empath Leaders

i disagree coz many intjs are empaths its just expresed differently

"Dangerous for INFJs to always make decisions based on feelings alone." Yes, it is. That is why we surround ourselves with INTJs.

Most of the ones INTJ claimed as "him" are very typical of INFJ.

lol, INTJs it's all about them !

Matt Hagan He had a suppressed, awkward sort of smile going from the very beginning. He doesn’t seem at all expressionless to me, which is great thing, if I’m honest.

It depends on what personality type you have. The following types are most compatible with INFJs in order from most to least compatable. ENFP INFP ESTJ ISTJ ENTP INTP ESFJ ISFJ ESFP ISFP ENTJ INTJ ESTP ISTP ENFJ INFJ. Of course, it could work with all types but the less compatible the harder it will be to make it work! INFJs are often best friends with ENFPs and INFPs because they understand INFJs better than any of the other types

Also Happy belated birthday!! you're a Pisces :)

Yes, I have encountered this situation manys times and he's normally baffled by the revelation.

Yes, I agree. If they mature out of their innate arrogance (and Daniel was a bit arrogant, natural in your 20's), then it works better. I think sexism comes into that. A male is meant to be intelligent in exactly the way an INTJ is. The INFJ intelligence is not so well understood, and in both males and females, does not not conform to society's view which until recently, has completely overlooked emotional intelligence (EQ) which many consider is more important than IQ. After all, what is more important than having good relationships with others? The INTJ falls down completely on emotional quotient, and must learn to respect it and put it in place. Female INTJs, who might be rarer than male INFJs, in particular find this hard but also find it easier to put in place. Male INTJs have real problems with factoring in emotional concerns. All our many thoughts become emotions which affect our moods and bodies, and INTJs need to realise this is a very important element for INFJs and get better at it. Otherwise it's like giving an INFJ food but no water to drink. If they can do it, the INFJ will respect and learn from their more focused approach to topics and also respect them far more. As someone says, they both have Ni and Se, but the crucial factor for an INFJ is Ni combined with both Ti and Fe - the INTJ lacks or is very weak in the feeling factor, whether introverted or extroverted. In this area, their Ni is little use. They won't see trouble coming right at them, or admit to it, until it is far too late.

In my experience (which is admittedly idiosyncratic) I wouldn't say INTJs are so lacking in emotional intelligence. It's more that they need to slow down Te so that the Fi can come through in ordinary social settings.. In terms of reading the emotional undercurrent of a situation INTJ's can be most perceptive, but, again, it's a matter of reigning in Te which comes most naturally in order to respond helpfully. I really must object to your statement that "Ni combined with Ti and Fe" is "crucial for the INFJ" but INTJ's lack feeling-- Actually, the role of Fi for INTJ is (or should be) comparable to the role of Ti for the INFJ. It is just as crucial, but more in the background. I do think you have a point though - it is very difficult for INTJs to express Fe type emotions. When we're unhappy in life, we do tend to dissociate from emotion rather than address the problem. Eventually, Te comes to the rescue, but then they will seem "cold" for addressing the apparently emotional issue using reason. I think this is very difficult to change - and also why many of us prefer to go through life solo to avoid such issues. Where you are more likely to make progress is by learning to recognize and nurture the INTJ's tertiary Fi so that it shows through more. A happy INTJ is one with a vision of the future and a plan of action in motion to actualize that vision. I think your point about thoughts (or the way a thought is expressed, etc.) affecting one's mood and functioning is well taken. For the INTJ it's like each thought becomes incorporated into a big picture, and the emotional ambiance results from the way that picture looks. Also, I must say that I think the person who brought up abuse is terribly off in left field. Perhaps it is true (it wouldn't surprise me) that most abusive men are xxTJ's. I'm not sure how this is an issue, rather than that some people are abusive. It's just a truism to say such people are less likely to be in touch with their emotions-- though I have known INFJ males who are emotionally abusive (always rooted in an insecurity about their masculinity, in my experience.) For the record, I'm not sure that INTJ x INFJ is a particularly good relationship match. I think they work well together in on a team because they each contribute a different but equally valuable skill set, but after too much time together they're likely to either burn each other out or irritate the hell out of each other.

Thank you. I think you are right at the end about INFJs/INTJs - it is what has happened to me. I agree with a lot of what you say, but the fact that a lot of emotions go unspoken can feel very emotiionally abusive to another person, possibly more open and empathic. I have read INTJs can be quite narcissistic and your points are actually what constitutes covert narcissism. But you also have INTJs who are more self aware and compensate. Any of the types can be less or more healthy in this way. I think INTJs do have feelings but they are kept to much inside and for themselves. I've also heard relationships work better if INFJ is man and INTJ woman, which makes sense to me! Thank you for explaining so well though. I still have an open mind, though in romantic relationships, I think I'll try to avoid - as friends, they are stimulating company.

@@angelatewson8202 Very interesting dialogue here. NTs in general do not appeal to me as romantic partners. The ENTP/INFJ pairing seems like a nightmare. I've not really been able to get on well with them.

@@angelatewson8202 We INTJ males can be emotionally unavailable at times, but INFJ females can be irritatingly irrational, which can be just as abusive when rather than two people working towards a common goal of being present for one another, one person throws an emotional tantrum and throws away all the previous efforts of both. It's ridiculous to say that "emotional intelligence" is more important than objective facts. It's important to be considerate, but part of being considerate is acknowledging that there is a world outside of how you yourself feel about something.

AND happy birthday!! :D

Thanks Nicole! Interesting how you connected with the INFJ quotes..I go through the exact same thought process when I make plans. It's quite difficult for me to strike a balance between my wants vs other people's wants..whereas Daniel has no problem favoring his preferences over other's. I'm slowly learning how to be comfortable with saying "no" Btw..I added you on Skype!

+Nicole SD Yes I agree- not being able to say no to plans is def a symptom of strong Fe.

It's great learning how to say no. But maybe Daniel could benefit from learning how to say yes as well xD.

Colby Chaos And she's beautiful.

And society is going down the drain with people like you (INFJ)

Telemahos Telemahou I’m pretty sure those that give compliments aren’t the reason for any perceived downfall of humanity.

@@telemahostelemahou7406 cringe.

@@zain4019 Rather those who think they are really are themselves.

I think it's Fi vs Fe. I'm a Fi user and the only close friends I have are other Fi users. We just click. I'm not actively seeking Fi users instead of Fe users as close friends. It just naturally happens. For INTJ vs INFJ it's because they are so similar (Ni-Se) yet so different (TeFi vs FeTi). This may cause confusion and suspicion. Had this once with INFJ friend. Dunno about close relationship.

@@cosmicmind7392 i agree. im an enfp and find that im naturally drawn to, click with, and form the most genuine feeling relationships with other fi users. the infj and enfp match works well platonically, but romantically, the fi/ fe clash feels a bit off.

P O W E R - R E D - B U L L Women and men are equal parts thinking and feeling split within MBTI. That’s an old prejudice that’s not healthy to foster in children, or in anyone really.

he's literally causing her emotional damage on record