OMG thank you haha

thanks a bunch 🎉

22:15 it’s true people cheat everyday and don’t get the backlash they deserve but the timeline was too clear to ignore (the way the other woman called her out and the consistent pattern). It’s not new that cheaters have a complex that follows a pattern and not every cheater gets lambasted for it. That said, Ariana can sing sing but I find her team’s compositions overall uninteresting. It’s not enough for people to overlook her moral shortcomings. People should break up properly before cheating or agree to be open relationship. I never understood why this is so hard for cheaters to do.

Chappell Roan is definitely the new pop hopeful, her team has her image on lock. Daniel Nigro has a way with really teasing out nostalgic, highly familiar sophisti-pop as seen with his work with Olivia.

I'm not at all a fan of Olivia Rodrigo, i think her music is crass, whiny, superficial and painfully over dramatic and she goes on about revenge against boys too much. Even though I find the odd song of hers that I can enjoy the odd verse or chorus of I just don't like her music but she's a nice enough person but she's too gushy.

Taylor Swift herself is/was arguably as much of a social media influencer as much as she is an actual artist. Completely disagree with you.

@@LD-tn6ff no she wasn’t and isn’t be so fr

@@LD-tn6ffthis is an INSANE take 😭 when taylor debuted in 2006 social media influencing did not even exist.. taylor did pioneer using social media to connect with her young audience but that in no way was “influencing”. taylor’s music came first, her media presence came after. only the opposite can be said about madison

@@nyebaby31 in what part of my comment did I make sequencial order between social media influence and music a part of the argument? I didn’t…. Taylor more than any artist in history relies on perpetuating a parasocial relationship and connection with audiences. Something that over the duration of many years can largely be attributed to social media influence. What about that VERY plain and obvious fact triggers you so?

that and I think she comes across as completely unrelatable to people, whether due to her perfect looks, personality, upbringing, etc.. imo, madison shouldn't be afraid to be messy (aesthetically, sonically, etc.) since her whole image is the opposite of that; otherwise, she'll remain boring

lmao same💀

perioddddd

🙌

FR

REAL

Diva down

ok same I saw this and i was like is the swiftologist ok???

very that

Same! My first thought was “Is Zach ok?”

It was rare, i was there 🤭

Yeah i agree she's kinda like a copycat of ari

it also doesn't help that although she serves face and is really beautiful, her high school diva megan fox-esque instagram influencer look kinda repels the gp-as if she's a tad too pretty to appreciate. she just seems really one dimensional even though her music is quite good, kinda like carly rae jepsen. her music, as personal a good chunk of it is, doesn't have that lasting effect to listeners unlike olivia and sabrina bc no one really knows her.

@@MarcDoesNotKnowI don’t think her looks really affect her status. People go viral all the time for the sole reason of being pretty (like that one girl on tiktok recently) It think it’s like zach said, she has no hits. Sure, she has a strong fan base but the majority of the gp can’t name a single song from her. All she needs to do is make a hit song and she’ll be launched into big fame

i feel like she was testing the waters with olivia and conan gray bc they were given equal tayblessings but olivia went on to be what she is now while conan, well..

But Taylor did hype up Olivia?

@@Ispspsps-kl1lt that ended pretty quickly lol

@@MarcDoesNotKnowcállate conan is peak slay have you heard his new album?!!

@@imawakemymindisalive13 i heard like a fifth of it and I didn't like it. i like that it's different from kid krow and superache but there's a reason found heaven didn't pop off as well his first 2 albums did.

yes I totally agree! Having freak on coachella would be really good (it had mentions of California lol) and sonically it fits the vibes of Coachella in a way that you’re able to sway around and vibe lol. I hope it makes sense! Also honeymoon does have a lot of California vibes so deffo songs from there like Art Deco could be good!

@@sabrina1646 i agree! i would love to hear the transition from freak to art deco live!

@@inoahguy-q6c ooh YESSS

thanks so much for watching!!!

I mean...it's "good" at best. Theres plenty of FAR better pop albums. I feel like you're just trying to regurgitate a claim made in the video without actually having a strong foundation for pop music reference.

@LD-tn6ff calling Blackout good at best speaks a lot about your taste.First of all.Are there better albums? Absolutely.It's not even my favourite album of Britney.Second of all,my statement was that it should be considered a bible of pop based on the influence by itself.Blackout came out in 2007,2005 & 2006 were knowingly a big flop period for music.The way Britney manouvers her unique tone along with the wild and rough futuristic beats of the tracks, shows the proffesionalism that the album-making held within itself.The dark and edgy sound of it all was revolutionary of it's time, especially coming from someone like her,considering Britney's past America's Sweetheart reputation,and the juicy,watery,strong beats were a big contrast between the boring generic dry instrumentals that were considered mainstream music of the time.The visuals and the concept of the album by themselves caused a phenomenal awakening within pop girls at the time, making each of them wanting to showcase the darker and raspier side of it all,wich with what we've seen,are just considered copycats today, lacking the originality that Britney managed to showcase through such a clichè thematic of rebellion.Not to mention how much the sounds of 2010s pop are a resemblence of the record.We are even able to find droplets of the records influence in every genre of pop since that time.Taylor's Reputation, Ariana's Dangerous Woman, Gaga's Born This Way, Lana's Ultraviolence even, ecc.

Blackout was Britney’s most creative album. She didn’t give a fuck what her label thought. I feel like her whole career has been carved out for her and she was just told what to do. Blackout was a different animal. I personally find Britney to be her best album. But Blackout is a close 2nd for me.

@crystalkadletc the 'Britney' [album] stans have my heart

The thing with Gracie is she understands her lane, her audience and her place in the industry and because of that she will always get stable streams and sold out tours. A thing a lot of pop girls could learn from Gracie is to understand where is their place in the music industry and stop trying to be something they´re not.

I just wish she take a poetry class bc her lyrics are not interesting and fall flat

Gracie Abrams is this you?

​@@Mel-qs8wxher lyrics do fall flat... Particularly in her latest album. But when she sings, she pours out all of her emotions which at the end make her songs what they are. ❤

cry about it

i beg to differ because i listen to that album religiously 😭

@@Sza4Lsame I play Bodyguard and Levi Jeans almost daily.

@@flickeringlights7119 just for fun is my personal favourite

I sadly agree. I love Beyonce but I hate her Jay-Z worship tracks 😭 I can't relate, girl. I cannot relate.

Bodyguard gives me 90s Sheryl Crow radio hit

I think Dua Lipa suffers from the same effect too but not as tragic. I don't think Solar Power is a bad album. It's really that Melodrama is such a perfect pop album that puts ultimate quality at the forefront that anything lesser than an A+ effort would end up becoming a major dissapointment which it kinda did but not too much. Without comparison, Solar Power is a good indie pop album. With comparison, it really pales in quality & sonic innovation that her first two albums brought forth. I hope that L4 will not be something similar to Solar Power & instead something new that's gonna break grounds like she did with Melodrama.

Stoned at the nail salon was trying too hard and so was that cover photo

@anoxia999 Pure Heroine and Melodrama are in my top 10 most played records of all time but I gave Solar Power's cover one glance and decided I wasn't interested. Haven't heard the entire record to this day.

​​​@@summerchild_Tennis Court is my favourite song on Pure Heroine. It's damn cool. Green Light is my favourite on Melodrama. 👌

I did not enjoy the songs of Solar Power that I have heard but I appreciate the different sound and uniqueness of the album.

True. Lacy sounds just like something taylor swift would do

​@sagelabyrinth8780 that's basically Clara bow

The only difference being Olivia is already a better lyricist than Taylor

​@@cas555tronah olivia lyrics are lack of depth

I was honestly surprised, since Meghan has been my favorite singer since like forever, and when I was saw the timestamp, I was like "omg what is he gonna say", and then I was like "well true, but I'll still be vibing"

Thank you!!

i dont think radical optimism was a flop, go off though

@@NateSullivan813Maybe not a flop, but surely not really interesting. But I guess that’s on Future Nostalgia for setting the standard too high

@@Laef-si3kt i think a LOT of albums will be flops compared to future nostalgia

@@NateSullivan813 Can’t really argue with the truth

Chappell Roan yesss

It's also about the luck. Even if they have the most steamed albums, let's not act as if the other artists are valueless. Tate McRae's latest album is a masterpiece... and she has had several hits. It's also about marketing... How olivia created all that Joshua and Sabrina drama etc.

i could name 3 sabrina carpenter hits that non-fans would know but pop off

This is absurd. So many people write off Beyonce because EVERYONE had to hear about and experience Cowboy Carter for example, whether they were fans who wanted to, or not. The over-exposure is the very reason for the backlash. under-rated artists are the ones who produce S-tier albums without the majority of the population ever even knowing about it, let alone the public consuming it and making a determination of its worth.

it's the vape i fear

Her voice is awful. Let’s just admit it. I would NEVER PAY to see her.

+ the worst part imo (which was also mentioned by Zach) is her being late to her own shows, which is kinda disrespectful. I would be so pissed if I paid to see someone and they arrive 30 minutes late basically for no reason. I love Lana but sometimes she just makes it so hard for me to stan her lol

@@britthunt5707 I would NEVER go see her in concert. Colossal waste of money. I’ll stay home and stream her albums.

I completely agree and maybe it’s because I was born in Houston (still live very close to Houston now) but I love Megan and I have a thought about her and I wanna know what you would think about this: I’m primarily a fan of rock/metal/alt music and I LOVED her remix of cobra with spiritbox especially since I am a fan of both Megan and spiritbox and I think it could be super interesting at the very least and maybe even quite successful if Megan were to go in the rap rock or even rap metal route. But again probably just saying that as a Megan fan and avid rock lover.

Sabrina Carpenter and Gracie Abrams are not in the same realm. Gracie's music is derivative and uninteresting, especially on TSOU. It sounds like a generic copy of six other artists who have done it better. Yet alone the fact no one's heard of her. Sabrina had a one-two punch with Espresso and Please³. Espresso was an immediate commercial success and was #1 on many international charts. Please³ followed up with this, and on many charts it was battling it out with Espresso to see which would go #1. Close To You broke top 10 in Sweden 💀 I'm not trying to say that commercial success translates to talent. Sexyy Red is successful. However, success shows if people are interested in what you've created. Sabrina has songs that are interesting. Espresso sparked multiple trends from its one song, Feather was simply fun, Nonsense had the intros she does, and Please³ sparked another trend with the "when I just did my makeup so nice" line. Gracie, on the other hand, is uninteresting. Her music sounds like grey wallpaper. The problem is there's nothing particularly "Gracie" about Gracie, while there's something very "Sabrina" about Sabrina. Tongue-and-cheek, fun, pop bangers, with easily quotable lines like: "I'm working late cause I'm a singer" "My give a fucks are on vacation" "That's that me Espresso" "I'm so sorry for your loss" "I beg you, don't embarrass me, motherfucker" That sort of thing. Sabrina definitely has reached Gracie's lows, but I'm not sure if Gracie has reached Sabrina's bests

@@caoyuanngreat breakdown I agree

I didnt even mention them bc sza is like klasfksdlnfkdl sooooo out of their league LMAO I don't consider her as part of the gen z pop star that I was talking about specifically here. sza has been making music much longer than either olivia or billie. meg is kind of in her own line, I wouldn't really call her a pop girl - and I also don't think her sound has meaningfully shifted anything or created anything new. she's extremely charismatic but not innovative IMO, like rihanna. tyla is def one to watch but again, too soon to tell

I'm highly suspecting a lot of you will eat your words when Sabrina's album is released but for now, her tour also sold out and she is playing the same venues as Olivia, Billie, SZA and Meg

Good for her!

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maybe even overrated i fear

Sabrina has always shouted out Dolly as well as Abba, Christina Aguilera, Etta James and Aretha as inspirations. It's a welcome change from the other girls who seem to always shout out the same 3 white women (Lorde, Taylor, Lana)

LMAOO

My exact thoughts were lmaooo and what do you know ^^^^

I'm so glad!

Facts though

it COULD be good .... but it rarely is

Wrong - I could list a hundred great live performances from pop girls who heavily rely on backup dancers to make it a more lively/theatrical performance because they are focused on singing instead of dancing. You plainly and simply don't want to admit as a Lana Stan that shes a terrible/lazy live performer.

@@LD-tn6ff You just said other pop artists use dancers to enhance the performance. I am arguing the opposite. I am saying the theatrics are not enhancing, but distracting.

I agree. Nobody calls Adele a lazy performer, when she is just standing there, with her microphone.

I've seen her twice now (Kansas City 2019, Arkansas 2023), and I definitely preferred the larger space with more going on on-stage. I was really disappointed with her NFR show, it was really, really short, included multiple covers, was slow at points, and it felt like her heart wasn't in it. The Tunnel tour felt more like a moment (even though the setlist was basically the same - but longer thankfully - as years prior)

its in the works!!

@@theswiftologist thank you for your service 🫶🏻😚

@@theswiftologistwell yes

Thank you!! Im going to wait for it im so excited!!!​@@theswiftologist

Also AMEN RE: Ariana's cheating scandal and male artists not getting nearly the same degree of pushback for worse shit. I'm so sick of the neo puritanism that's bubbled up in terminally online discourse.

@@annaphallactic Rihanna haters are just upset Anti is still critically and commercially better received than their faves

And we will need a part 3 for sure!

@@ruizdy yes we do

😂😂😂😂 I hate her music.

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@@theswiftologist Because you know I'm all about that bass 'Bout that bass, no treble I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass, no treble I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass, no treble I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass (Bass, bass, bass, bass)🎶🎶🎶🎶🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, if it was of your own accord, then I wouldn't mind, but being forced to is just sad. And I'm saying this as a Meghan fan. So yeah, sorry for that

@@raquiolinha2507 yeah unfortunately we cannot choose the music at my store, however, it’s pretty varied and often i like it so i’m all good

underrated comment fr, couldn't agree more

it's also much easier to get a Hot 100 #1 nowadays so there is no doubt Me! would have gone #1

ME! is a terrible song though...

@@LD-tn6ff Never said it wasn't

​@eeropussinen613 you did say it would get #1.. now I'm confused- please elaborate

I agree. I’m a huge Lana Stan but wouldn’t pay that much again to see her live. It’s just not worth the half-assed performance

fr

Well tbh no one has Taylor's talent. Before some say olivia, i like her music, but no one can be Taylor. So we should stop comparing i guess!?

they are called like that because they grew up being swifties and started they careers looking up to her as an idol and have been lucky enough to be acknowledged by her, not because they are they’re lyricist daughters, even tho they can write excelent serious songs apart from the most commercial ones they are called like that because she is like a motherly figure to them career wise, she looks after them and gives them advice

@@sirensvibes222 ok

Love Taylor to death but sabrina is singing circles around her performing better than her and can do different genres of music unlike taylor and the other pop girls she writes her most of her music she’s talented

hey brooke!! welcome back

periodt !!!

but she chooses not to be just a songwriter. She actively wants to have notoriety, and chooses to be the one that both sings and performs her songs. What are you even talking about? You're just a Lana Stan that doesnt want to admit her shortcomings.

@@LD-tn6ff are you 12 years old ? You certainly sound like it … you don’t seem to have a handle what I’m saying, almost as if you lack any form of reasoned comprehension..

He actually talked about this in the last unpopular pop girl opinions.

@@chikahoshi yeah I know,also in the comments about Sabrina there😭

This! They are reducing her to her most popular songs rn and it’s like saying taylor couldn’t to great songs back then or have a great album because she put out 22 or shake it off, or ME! It’s a fun bop to get people to listen to the album it ain’t that hard to get honestly

There is a reason why people dont know whatev songs youve named, and a readin why she only known NOW for Say so rehashes…

@@fitzgeraldgatsby4885not 100% sure what you are trying to say in the last part but either way it still defeats the point I’m trying to relay,just because people don’t reach deeper into her discography doesn’t mean she doesn’t have more to offer than what’s “hot” right now.

Taylor would post Camila cabello a lot before she got big , once Camila got her first huge hit havanah Taylor ignored her in social media. Camila would still talk about Taylor nicely and it’s been crickets from Taylor

I'm sorry but "Woman's World" was so weak 😔 (and the fact that Dr. Luke produced this song is both ironic and problematic)

Olivia is basically the Aristotle to Taylor's Plato. She is a scholar of Taylor Swift school of music.... She has been a swifty, has consumed and soaked in Taylor's music all her life as it spoke to her. First time I heard Driver's licence I was like OHHHH this is soo Taylor Swift but it's so Olivia at the same time. I love these two artists the most.

@@That_BrownGirl In my opinion Olivia is the fusion of Taylor and Avril, she has things from both and no matter how similar she is to Taylor I can't help but see them and think they are so similar but at the same time so different the difference is in the moment Avril enters into this , Taylor is Taylor and Olivia is Olivia but you will have people who say they are the same

harry may not be the most talented member (vocally maybe zayn) but he’s definitely the most famous for a reason

@@jvaleriarojas5167 PERIOD

hope you love it!!

coming soon!

her image is common, her vocals arent recognizable, and her music isn't remotely innovative. creating just "good" songs with the aforementioned obviously isn't going to make her a leading/influential pop star.

She has nothing even whispering popstar.Just average popular schoolgirl who can actually sing fine & cover TikTok songs.

yep that's def coming!