Refine doesnt cost must . what does it cost ? Sanity ... it cost sanity .

Most of the times people quit is because of refining, it's crazy how they still haven't implemented a safe refine to +15.

Im always using feeling when refine, it turns my phone getting worst when so many failed. Its really getting me mad when too many time failed.

Nope! I'm refining my items using LB who has a stats for crafting weapon and stone that was saved in Ymir book. And got +12 to +15 items. But believe in good and bad luck days in refining...😅 From SEA server here playing since November 2018

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That's why devs are selling +15 voucher for 1500 dollars.

I always get 30 to 50 of the item I want to refine.. Than I use the sacrifice method (sacrifice 3 or 4, depends of the day).. I made a spreadsheet to check on how the refine is in that day either.. Sometime when I see too many fails in a raw (like lots of 5 fails sequence).. I give up and try other day.. Have +15 that way all the items I need on almost every job released

I never used more than 100m for refining but i dont fail getting +15 😂 I always use LB job for refining. A lot says it don't work but i can refine easy +10 with 10m if it wont make it +10 for 10m i call it bad omen haha

There been people in Zenith claiming to lower class members to always get +15 and it's not luck, it is technique, but when they explain it is just luck and made many. I was also told by someone they got the Ronin class without using BCC when it first came out. This video is proof that people lie. You will only learn what works for you by trial and error without fear or care for loss. Recovery is part of the game too. By the way, I seen there are +15 vouchers for you spenders. Lets get it! Who cares about yolo, we need end results not the thrill of the gamble

i have a friend to have a metod to do 100% +15, i don't upgrade imself but i give the account to my friend and now i am full +15......^^

you must got hardest ball to refine. If not will mental so much

Refining is infuriating, especially when it's an exclusive weapon of a new job. An example would be Thor's weapon. I've had days when the weapon fail+break when refined from +4, 7 pcs or more straight! I've spent a total of 2B, I've called it quits and settled for +10 when my bad luck extended to the runes (200 Star Runes, not a single rune with 2nd line activated). In hindsight, I should have just saved my money and bought a +15 from exchange. I think at this point in the game they should remove the refine down mechanics, if you fail it would either stay unbroken or broken but it won't go down a level.

3000 fish for a +15 Voucher . . . Its 20 BCC for 5 Fish . . . You do the math 🤣

Its a scum refine scum relic don't do its already you know all ready don't victimize to scum gravity boycott thire mechanic already you will feel better no more headache

blacksmith refine pasiive skill is scam 🤣

Esperaba ver algo nuevo pero sigue siendo tan desilusiónante como que un equipo roto es basura una vez roto siempre se rompe en el mismo nivel mejor usarlo como material de refinación, convertirlo en piedras o venderlo. Dicen que este Ro es mejor que el antiguo porque no desaparecen tus equipos pero es casi igual o peor porque en el antiguo cuando menos te ayudaba tu Luck y podías vender independiente y comprarle a quien desearás aquí el herrero solo se convirtió en otro bruto más de PVE y PVP. Perdió su brillo como comerciante. Mejor hago instancias todos los días con cualquier personaje y vendo para obtener zenys ya el herrero no tiene nada ni de comerciante ni de herrero porque ya ni las piedras que hace son redituables.

F2p player with 50% depo is the biggest 💩 i ever heard.