Real Trapshooting

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walman16

15 жыл бұрын

A round of real American Trap, shot at Norfolk County Rifle Range,VA. Sound may not be in sync.

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@CatSimulator2000 4 жыл бұрын

I just want to say, thank you for uploading this. I'm moving to a place with a trap field 20 minutes away, want to learn, and it's nice to see a raw video like this with nothing fancy, just a full round played with no cuts or wild camera angles. Gives me a good feeling for how the rhythm and pace of a round typically is.

@walman16 4 жыл бұрын

TxdoHawk you bet! Hard to believe this was 12 years ago this Thanksgiving. Shoot to win! Allen

@popoaggie 8 жыл бұрын

25 chipped birds beats 24 "Smoked" ones any day. But there is a cool factor in totally smoking a clay.

@phatsmitty 11 жыл бұрын

Bird visibility is excellent with the tree background....

@adamb2619 4 жыл бұрын

This video popped up 12 years later, and was glorious and soothing to watch and hear

@walman16 4 жыл бұрын

A B Haha! Thanks for making my day. Appreciate the comment!

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! That guy is me and it's pretty common to rest your barrel on your toe if you shoot a break open gun like I have. They actually make toe tabs so you don't get rings and soot on your shoes. Any other gun than a break open and I'll agree with you 100%, but with the breach open, and the shell primer totally removed from the action, there's no practical way the gun could discharge in that position . It is the golden rule in shooting, and for that I thank you for bringing it up.

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

You ain't kiddin'! Clays an amazing shot. Can focus like no one I've ever seen.....

@AcesUp011 14 жыл бұрын

This is probably one of the best videos made of true trap shooting. The quality is so good in some shots you can even see the wadding flying through the air. On a side note excellent shooting fellas.

@irishman0845 12 жыл бұрын

When I stopped shooting in 1994 i was AA 27 A. I really enjoyed your posting. As you stated the majority of KZfaq videos are if hand thrown clays .

@LegendaryPlowboy 4 жыл бұрын

Good shooting. I just started about two years ago at my local club. A fellow by the name of Neal Crausbay has been giving me some pointers along the way.

@walman16 4 жыл бұрын

Robert R McBride thats great! Keep it up!

@rjfletcher9647 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply and explanation! I have some friends that have been trying to talk me into shooting trap with them for a few years now. I just might go give it a shot. Best, RJ Fletcher

@walman16 10 жыл бұрын

Matt, I totally agree with you (how can anyone argue with Dan Carlisle?) but a couple of things of note. 1. It's compressed video, so we're shooting faster than we were in real life. 2. For new shooters, I agree with Phil Kiner on the subject of speed. Speed is not the desired result but the end result of good technique. Good technique includes good target acquisition, and a nice smooth, economical move to the bird. In other words, desire to use good fundamentals and let the shot cadence be dictated by that.

@xxstarforbrianxx 9 жыл бұрын

Good call, I see some people trying too hard to shoot the bird faster just for the sake of looking fast. You can win the race but still lose the war. By the way, how'd you get the targets to show up so well? I was a told a neutral density filter should help on sunnier days. I've uploaded a few vids on my channel of me shooting at local ATA shoots and the targets are barely visible. I'm using a GoPro Hero 3 White Edition in 720p 30 FPS.

@1LitreofCola 11 жыл бұрын

You took the words right out of my mouth. I personally like to say pull really drawn out, some guys make fun of me for doing it that way, but it works for me lol.

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

Good Luck! One word: ADDICTIVE

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

If you watch the video, you'll see we only have 4, but the same rules apply if you have 5, 3, 2 or even one shooter. The leftmost shooter always starts the first round of 5, and once everyone is rotated, that shooter starts that next round of 5 and soforth until everyone has shot 5 shots at all 5 posts. Thanks for watching, hope that helps!

@Kd8OUR 11 жыл бұрын

I use to work for the AMA when I was younger. They did 2 events in Dayton OH. I worked in the shell house and as a trap loader. Those things were old too. Some made in the 1940's . It's been shut down for several years now.

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

@Magnum4554 When you start a round, it's always the person that's the furthest left that begins the round, then when you rotate positions, that person always starts it off and so it goes till everyone shoots 25. Hope that helps!

@jessicare4086 9 жыл бұрын

Good shooting and nice range

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

That's terrific! Keep practicing and you'll get even better!

@AJ54Makeup 6 жыл бұрын

I just started shooting trap about 1 month ago and I love it. Still have a lot to learn and need to practice a lot but i am determined that one of these days my nick name will be Annie Oakley.

@walman16 14 жыл бұрын

Yep, they are pretty cool. I had one on my other gun but like a wood stock better. They have a great recoil reduction system on them.

@BlueonGoldZ 11 жыл бұрын

Walman 16. So how would the rotation go if there was just 3 people. We take up the frist 3 spots to the left and we shoot 5 times at each station. Once first rotation is complete, everyone shifts over to the right until we shoot 25 times each?

@BlueonGoldZ 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I have a Berett Ulrika391 that has the Mobile Choke system. What choke do you recommend for the range of trap shooting?

@Journeyman-Fixit 9 жыл бұрын

You are looking like you are having good fun!

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe, Thanks for watching! I appreciate the compliments! Just so you know, this is American Trap, not Bunker, so the house is of regulation height for American Trap. Secondly, I forgot my shell catcher but rest assured I policed my empties and disposed of them properly after this video was taken but good point. Shouldnt leave this stuff on the ground. Shoot to win! Allen

@SilntObsvr Жыл бұрын

First trap day coming up for me, and since I'll be shooting my own reloads, I hope to be able to collect my empties to use the hulls again (given the hull is about 30-40% of the cost of a birdshot reload in 2023).

@walman16 Жыл бұрын

@@SilntObsvr just remember to take a pouch for your empties. I forgot mine that day but it’s a small club so I policed mine after shooting. I dont reload any more. Cost of lead went through the roof!

@SilntObsvr Жыл бұрын

@@walman16 I had a carpenter's nail belt that had room for a box of shells in one side and all the empties in the other, but I couldn't find it (nor my electronic muffs) so I bought one that's made specifically for shotgun sports; one section exactly fits a full box of 2 3/4 shells, the other will hold (they claim) up to 50 empty hulls. Price of lead may be high, but... At 15 cents for a primed hull (all plastic, I'll probably get half a dozen reloads out of each), 2 1/2 to 3 cents a wad (Claybusters and Ballistic Products clone wads), $65 for 25 lb of reclaimed shot (roundly 13 shells to the pound for 1 1/8 ounce loads so twenty cents for the shot), and 15+ grains of powder ($40/lb, that's about 8 1/2 cents per shell), I figure my per-shell cost for loading my own at around 47 cents a shell -- with target loads running $10 a box, I'm not saving anything, but you can't always find them at $10/box -- and every time I reload a box of shells, the cost for each shot drops a little. Primers by the 1000 are about 6 cents, so that brings my load cost down to just about the same as Estate or Fiocchi target loads. And I can cast slugs, buckshot, or punkin balls for a couple bucks a pound (plus shipping, but I can get 25 lb of ingots shipped for under $15), once I have the molds; that makes it cheaper to shoot slugs or buckshot (that I have molds for) than birdshot.

@walman16 13 жыл бұрын

All adjustable combs work the same way. The more you raise your comb, the higher the gun will shoot. My advice would be to make minor adjustments up or down until the gun shoots where you look. When I make any kind of adjustment, it's small and I mean like millimeters, then I'll shoot at least 50 shells through it. By the way the target breaks, I can then figure out if I need to raise or lower the comb and then I'll make another small adjustment. Hope this helps!

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

@Crich It's perfectly acceptable to close your breach prior to the other shooter taking a shot. That shooter you are referring to is me and I have shot competition for over 20 years. It is advisable however if you are a new shooter, to wait till it's your turn to close your gun.

@patricksab 14 жыл бұрын

great video amazing quality

@jamespriceful 9 жыл бұрын

the most fun i have ever had shooting love trap im ready for skeet.

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

The reason I posted this video was to show an actual round of American Trap. Too many video's on KZfaq of people shooting clay targets from a spring or hand thrower, which is all fun, but not trap. I thought it was time to just show a round of trap.....that's why I named the video Real Trapshooting. Thanks for watching!

@justabloke6981 7 жыл бұрын

Very cool. The shooter who walked from 5 to 1 without his gun broken needs a gentle reminder.

@walman16 7 жыл бұрын

He's shooting a pump gun.

@justabloke6981 7 жыл бұрын

Oh right. Thanks for pointing that out. Perhaps I should get glasses...

@walman16 7 жыл бұрын

Haha, no worries mate!

@brucelafone5719 12 жыл бұрын

You don't know exactly where the clays are going to come out, this is a lot of fun!

@noobtuber129 12 жыл бұрын

Nice video! I'm thinking about getting the new cz redhead. I am currently shooting a bt-99, any advice?

@LugaWaffen 6 жыл бұрын

Today I firstly try trap shooting and i LiKed it! 🤔☺️

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

I had a caps video up but I didnt like the angle I shot it at. I'll put one up for you next time I get a chance to put the camera out. I would definitely want Clay Floyd to shoot a doubles round so I'll ask him next time I'm down that way. Thanks for watching!

@Tac333 6 жыл бұрын

This is what I fall asleep to

@brantleyc_3493 5 жыл бұрын

"Just because they are old folks doesn't mean they can't out shoot you" - unknown

@Berettaboysdad 12 жыл бұрын

Nice shooting, enjoyed watching the video.

@coolfool182 12 жыл бұрын

Shot skeet for the first time today. First time I have ever shot anything other than a .22 at pop cans. And first round got a 12, and the second i got 19. And I now am in love with the sport.

@SpykeZ0129 12 жыл бұрын

@Magnum4554 Where I go there's 5 spots per station. You just pay them and they tell you what station you're going to and that they'll call you when the current station is done with their 25 rounds, then it's up to your group who goes when.

@walman16 13 жыл бұрын

I'll agree with you in one respect, it's a lot of bucks for a stock. I had one for several years when I shot my Kreighoff. One thing I did like was the recoil reducer. I didn't care much for the comb that it came with or the Ultimate Fit comb I put on it. I know people that swear by them though.

@gunsfishand4x4 12 жыл бұрын

very nice round of trap!

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. This isn't my regular club but the terrain is mostly loamy soil with tall pines in the background. To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the way this trap is laid out but it's only a small parcel of land so they made the most of it. I prefer skyline targets myself (no trees).

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

I have choke tubes, but you might as well weld a full choke in my gun as I use it for everything expect first shot in doubles. My choice of tubes for singles (what I'm shooting here) is not the norm though. A lot of shooters use light full, improved modified, improved cylinder for singles. Earlier in my career I messed around with choke tubes and patterning but found eliminating that variable helped my mental performance more than any gains choke tubes could provide, but do what works best 4 U!

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I really do need to post a caps video. Will try to put one together for you. Thanks for watching!

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

I dont know a single club that doesnt. I shot a Model 12 competitively for about 4 seasons and did really well with it. The man shooting on post 4 at the beginning is shooting that very gun.....good luck! Shoot to win!

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

This probably isn't anything you dont already know, but make sure it fits you well, shoots where you look and you have a reputable shop close to you that can service it. Thanks for watching!

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

I'll admit there are more exciting brands of clay shooting, but for me, the rush I get running 200 straight is what brings me back......

@thatbubbleguy 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply.

@ckfvideo 6 жыл бұрын

Helpful, thanks!

@blairsharpe2798 6 жыл бұрын

I think I found my substitute for video games

@fordmud460 10 жыл бұрын

It's like 5-stand but it's 4 people. I wish our FFA shoots were like this. But we change positions after every shot, 1 shot in the gun at a time.

@ActuarialNinja 4 жыл бұрын

When you have a bunch of experienced shooters on the line, you get a rhythm where every person only takes like 2 seconds to shoot. It really helps the flow of things, and I find I shoot better in that kind of setup.

@walman16 4 жыл бұрын

ActuarialNinja yep

@whitey211 14 жыл бұрын

Great shooting!

@flightsim13 13 жыл бұрын

If anyone has a BT-99 I tried raising the comb and it wasn't working for me does anyone else raise it?

@SpykeZ0129 12 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the sport!! It's a blast once you get into it! I've been taking co-workers and friends who's never been and let them shoot with me and they become addicted.

@TheBluesnbob 10 жыл бұрын

It was hard to tell! Not many pumps still being used in Trap I reckon! I'm planning a Benelli M2 or a Benelli Vinci this week!

@braggersum 13 жыл бұрын

@walman16 exactly and u know where to and how u hold it.

@HOYTCRX 12 жыл бұрын

would you guys be able to make a trap shooting video on technique and how the rotation works where you walk and how. im joining a neighboring schools trap team in march and would like to know watt im doing and not look like a foul

@Extrmmitch 8 жыл бұрын

I guess i've been doing it wrong, i pull in the ready position muzzle pointing down and when the skeet goes flying off then i aim and fire. but i guess you aim in the area before the skeet fly's off?

@walman16 7 жыл бұрын

You'll want to start with your muzzle in a position that allows you to make a smooth, efficient move to the target.

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

Yes. Though you can't shoot anything larger than 12 gauge, there is no rule prohibiting you from shooting down to .410. All the competition American Trapshooters I know shoot 12 gauge however.....

@BlueonGoldZ 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@SCW306 13 жыл бұрын

awesome!!!!!

@walman16 13 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Clay can grind em'! My dad was President of NCRR until recently. Nice club. Wish is wasnt a one lunger. I hate waiting between 50's......

@NotAFanAnymore 10 жыл бұрын

sure beats working, good way to spend the day with some friends.

@Carl_Black 12 жыл бұрын

clay busting efficiency nice work

@poolguy62 9 жыл бұрын

Ya'll impressed the heck out of me ;-)

@kristen565 8 жыл бұрын

Trap shooting is the best!! Last time I went to the gun range I got to shoot these really cool assault rifles at a stationary target. It was cool but I was like, "Okay where's the trap? I like shotguns better." :) Nothing beats a shotgun. Except maybe a paintball gun. LOL

@twobagger2268 6 жыл бұрын

Jesus is the Way the Truth & the Life r u sure it was an assault rifle?

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

Great score! Keep up the good work! My only advice is get some good instruction early if you're interested in being a serious shooter. It's easier to develop good habits than it is to undo bad ones!

@brianonthego 5 жыл бұрын

I would love to try this.

@BlueonGoldZ 11 жыл бұрын

I too always felt that saying 'pull' kinda throws me off.

@2000xlt 13 жыл бұрын

great video..greater shooting. what choke are you using in the guns, ?

@avahand5632 7 жыл бұрын

this is cool they are good at it

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking about a basics video for beginners but am going to wait a month or so till the weather warms up. Thanks for watching!

@thanassisliatzouras2755 5 жыл бұрын

Masters!

@schaferhundschmidt1798 5 жыл бұрын

A decent team, but either 2 of them were having bad days, or not quite masters. Also they were at 16 yards.

@samdonald1303 11 жыл бұрын

in NZ you are able to have a live shell in the breach of your gun(while shooting DTL) (o/u). yes your are right with a semi-auto but unfortunately incorrect with U/O

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

@dhs012 Yes, that's Clay Floyd. He's an awesome shot!

@walman16 13 жыл бұрын

At the start of the video, from left to right.....35" barrel, 40 thousandths full, 34" barrel, 35 thousandths full, (I'm guessing here on #3 but fairly sure) 34" barrel, Improved Modified, 30" barrel, 35 thousandths full. Thanks for watching!

@RizzoR14 12 жыл бұрын

Christ, I just started doing trap, only shot two rounds so far, and watching this makes me feel hopelessly bad

@Thompson.Gun.and.Knife. 12 жыл бұрын

good video.

@danielbojara9233 6 жыл бұрын

Walman16 what choke and shot are you using

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

It's not that hard to learn. Find a good coach and a local club and give it a shot! Thanks for watching!

@carolinasmoke5047 7 жыл бұрын

Nice video. I'm guessing the dude with the red muffs has done this before. Good to see a pump gun in there.

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@walman16 10 жыл бұрын

Model 12 used to be THE gun, then Winchester got

@1valg 5 жыл бұрын

Why are there no baskets for the empty shells?

@lhayes7516 5 жыл бұрын

gives the retired guys something to do when they are out of shells

@walman16 13 жыл бұрын

That makes one of us!

@xxstr8jacketxx 13 жыл бұрын

Haha clay Floyd aka big daddy $tarbucks! I'm very fortunate to live 3 minutes from NCCR Tuesday night shoots are awesome there there is alot of great people that shoot there I've been going for years and will always be my favorite place to shoot :) ~Jason Harrington~

@rjfletcher9647 11 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I've never even seen trap shooting before so this is new to me. I have though, shot skeet. Is this an easier version for guys that don't have the patience or marksmanship skills to shoot skeet? It just looks SO incredibly easy! Especially in comparison to skeet. Hell, I could do this with my .357!

@SilntObsvr Жыл бұрын

That's quite the shooting pace. I'll be shooting my first trap day ever next weekend, my only shotgun is an 870 Express, and I'll be asking before the shoot about things like loading the magazine for a round vs. single loading (which would surely slow me down, I'm not an experienced shotgun shooter, even though I've seen it done on film at remarkable speed). I've shot skeet once, two rounds, broke one target; hopefully I'll do better at trap with all the targets going more or less away from me and no doubles to worry about. Edit: Okay, found a good page on trap, single loading only unless shooting doubles (I won't be doing that until I can hit 20+ in a round of singles, though I might try wobble trap sooner). I need to get one of those from-the-box pouches, then...

@SilntObsvr Жыл бұрын

And just realized I'd been conflating members' trap practice with open-to-public skeet shoot days -- I'll be shooting skeet, not trap. Best get my shucking up to speed...

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

32,000 plus entries at the Grand American year in and year out. Bring your bunker gun and play the money. Should be easy cheese for an ace like you.

@benkenny3220 8 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to figure out trap. Is there 5 stations and you get 5 targets per station? What is that stand at each station for?

@sevenrats 8 жыл бұрын

The little stand at each station? Those are microphones. The machine is voice activated. You yell pull and the machine shoots the clay automatically.

@twiki1963 7 жыл бұрын

But potentially a problem when using a semi-auto.

@sevenrats 7 жыл бұрын

Roland Kee I shoot a semi. A Beretta Outlander. No problem. I did put a shell catcher on it though, to not hit the guy next to me and also so I don't have to pick up em up.

@sevenrats 7 жыл бұрын

***** Yes. It has never happened to me and I shoot at 6 different clubs.

@sevenrats 7 жыл бұрын

***** I think it might not trigger it because I (and most shooters) close the action immediately on the report of the previous shooter. There is a delay after the pull or else the report of the shotguns would launch another bird. One of the places is about 3 miles away, I'm a member there. All the others are about 30 to 40 minutes away. I'm a member at one of those too. They all are open to the public for trap certain days and times. There's another club near me but it's not open to the public for trap and I can't justify joining another club and I really like the one that's 30 min. away.

@fordmud460 10 жыл бұрын

Pure badassery though

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

The game you're viewing is Singles and you are correct, of the three American Trap events, Singles is the easiest in one respect, but the mental aspect of Singles is very challenging. You have to be perfect usually through 200 shots to make a shootoff and then another 200 to win. Hard part about Skeet is shooting smaller gauges. For me, ( I'm not trying to start a war with a bunch of pantyhose wearing Skeet shooters), 12 gauge Skeet is a cake walk. Learn the leads, there's no variables...

@dhs012 12 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome shots! Did the guy in the camo hat who started on the left shoot a straight?

@canhuntincanuck 12 жыл бұрын

Are you going to do any more trap shooting videos? , doubles, hanicap, guns, ammo ect ?

@walman16 10 жыл бұрын

No, that's a 1962 Winchester Model 12.

@miiigoreng 11 жыл бұрын

I see... Perhaps i'll try that sometime.

@walman16 11 жыл бұрын

A call is a personal thing. At the start of the video, guy on Post 1 (post most left) yells Keeeeahhh!, I'm next to him and yell Ahhhhhh!, Next to me calls Pull!, Guy on Post 4 is my dad and he's yelled Hoooowwwww! as long as I can remember. The reason I don't call pull is threefold. 1) I don't have to move my mouth and possibly disrupt my sight pattern, 2) It's a uniform noise that trips the machine in a consistent release and 3) Concentration. I don't have to worry about calling "pull"

@walman16 12 жыл бұрын

Practice Practice Practice!

@waeldarian 12 жыл бұрын

hey, can you show me the terrain? i like it, and i have like the same plase and view in my country, and i am interrested to make the same designe as yours. thx and nice video ;)