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11 ай бұрын

History tells us that the Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in the 4th century. But did Christianity conquer Rome or did pagan Rome conquer Christianity?
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@polarisjustdothework2258
@polarisjustdothework2258 6 ай бұрын
“Constantine was a fox and we live in a world full of snakes” A message given to me by the One True God ❤
@Animalsandwildlife.7527
@Animalsandwildlife.7527 2 ай бұрын
They say he got baptized in his deathbed. Does that count or it is too late for him?
@polarisjustdothework2258
@polarisjustdothework2258 2 ай бұрын
@@Animalsandwildlife.7527 it's not for me to judge. I had not heard that before. His mother appeared to be a true Believer, and prayed for him continuously. May peace be upon them both.
@Animalsandwildlife.7527
@Animalsandwildlife.7527 2 ай бұрын
@@polarisjustdothework2258 He was a typical politician. That what politicians do best.
@polarisjustdothework2258
@polarisjustdothework2258 2 ай бұрын
@@Animalsandwildlife.7527 Amen!!
@resetmyzen1585
@resetmyzen1585 4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed it. Nice work.
@busby777
@busby777 11 ай бұрын
It was not the cross. It was the chi rho.
@bgcvetan
@bgcvetan 2 ай бұрын
They've also got wrong Saturnalia that ends in the 23rd december. This thing is rigged as hell.
@jupiterbd444
@jupiterbd444 Ай бұрын
I love churros
@num1sooner
@num1sooner 15 күн бұрын
Churros??
@karmayt8956
@karmayt8956 11 ай бұрын
So it wasn’t Jesus’s message of peace and love that was the converting force, it was the symbol of the cross?
@lettuceman9439
@lettuceman9439 2 ай бұрын
That was the converting force specially to how early Christianity established itself amongst the poor and downtrodden but also that Christianity actively sought out converts and inspired faith which fueled said missions from the city of the Roman empire to the mountains of Armenia. Christianity profoundly became a historic force since it completely disregarded economic and political incentives to convert kingdoms and tribes during it's early centuries and after the fall of the Western Empire.
@sundanese_idn
@sundanese_idn Ай бұрын
History is written by the winner. It is not impossible that Constantine rewrote the Holy Bible based on his political desires & needs.
@toddashley407
@toddashley407 5 ай бұрын
History is a powerful force.... True history even moreso... Seek truth - do not trust in man.
@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134
@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134 11 ай бұрын
Some of Simcha's ideas are wacky and some seem obvious as he said, hiding in plain sight.
@charleswalsh9895
@charleswalsh9895 11 ай бұрын
Been saying this bs since Constantine time
@FrankenSensei2
@FrankenSensei2 4 ай бұрын
I haven’t watched this yet, but if the researcher is Simka, (yeah right, he is so unbiased) we already know what his findings are going to be --/ guaranteed.
@bill2471
@bill2471 11 ай бұрын
Where's the part about ancient aliens?
@rynolemons6078
@rynolemons6078 Ай бұрын
Vikings did the same thing in France. And then conquered England in 1066. And some people think religion isn’t used for power 😅
@genehampden-comrie7599
@genehampden-comrie7599 8 ай бұрын
Even so, Constantine is dead. And God laughs in eternity.
@JamesSmith-pg7xp
@JamesSmith-pg7xp 3 ай бұрын
And after death then there is judgment. Hebrews 9:27 KJV And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
@danielcraft3727
@danielcraft3727 Ай бұрын
Laughing through tears.
@deb681
@deb681 2 ай бұрын
God works mightily ❤ His prophecies are true and unfolding. Jesus is Truth. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father except through Him.
@Madasin_Paine
@Madasin_Paine 3 күн бұрын
Says who? Written by men, for starters. Beware the words of men and false prophets after who was claimed Jesus.
@Tseke_tk
@Tseke_tk 23 күн бұрын
The legitimacy of ones conversion is determined by the reason of conversion. Why you converted will tell you if your conversion is real or false
@CharlesDaniels-lp4ut
@CharlesDaniels-lp4ut Ай бұрын
Yes that's why in Rome they hide the truth in valts
@selah4719
@selah4719 2 ай бұрын
It was a political decision, he blended pagan beliefs and Christianity. Never about any repentance or belief .
@timothykozlowski2945
@timothykozlowski2945 2 ай бұрын
Constantine the Great is one of the most important people in Christianity
@quartodecimani6908
@quartodecimani6908 9 күн бұрын
This documentary is getting a lot of facts wrong and confused: 1. They often confuse Mithras and Sol Invictus. They are two different gods and have different cults. 2. The Mithras cult has all but ceased by the time of Constantine. It peaks in the early 3rd century and phases out by 300 AD. 3. The arch of Constantine was in all likelihood NOT comissioned by Constantine, but by the senate of Rome. The Senate was pagan at this time. It is no wonder there isn't any Christian symbology on the arch. 4. The arch features mainly reused elements from other triumphal archs. The large statues with Phrygian hats are from a Trajanic monument, and are Dacian prisoners. Not Mithras priests. 5. Flavius was a very wide spread standard first name in Roman society then. It was not a family name. Constantines first name was Flavius and this did by all means not signify any connection to the Flavian dynasty. The hypothesis is thus nonsense. 6. Eusebius was not Constantines ally. Eusebius was an Arian Christian. Those guys Constantine had branded heretics at the council of Nicaea. Eusebius was even condemned to exile by Constantine. He later got admitted back and happened to be present at Constantines death, which is why ironically, he had to baptise Constantine. There simply was no other choice. Eusebius liked Constantine apparently. The other way around however, we don't know... 7. Constantine had coins minted with him as personified Sol Invictus, well into his clearly Christian era, where he also had coins with Christograms minted in parallel. It's a slow conversion as was usual back then. 8. The Sol cult is younger than Christianity. Christmas in December was known to some Christian communities before the birthday of Sol was celebrated on the 25th December. 9. We simply don't know enough hard facts about Constantine to be able to make a comment about the sincerity or direction of his beliefs. Distorted and misinformed claims such as here don't bring us closer to the truth, they contribute to veiling it further. By grossly simplifying and misinforming, they ended up distorting history more than brining any interesting new thoughts to the table.
@petermackj
@petermackj 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the effort and knowledge sharing. Great response. I also wondered why he went off on a Mithras tangent. I'm not sure ho much time he actually spends on research before doing his shows, but he could have at least mentioned Sol Invictus along with Apollo and Mithras.
@Madasin_Paine
@Madasin_Paine 3 күн бұрын
What religion is the mentioned so close to Constantine? Maybe like Josephus he was a Jewish slave or charismatic cunning scribe . Maybe not. Cui bono other than Roman pagans? A mixed bag for Christians verily, this Constantine. I don't think tyrants and commoners change much. Listen to Joseph Campbell and think about how often movies are a lot like old movies which are like old books which are like old myths. They resonate so well that it introduces the future and current concepts so that they may be normalized incremetally. Mohammad did something similar with his monied backers over a couple decades and they two were embracing the rising reality and the preferred future, sold radical but quite CON serv ative, maybe, IMHO. A lot of humility and skepticism is rational but religion isnt rational except as intended by the victors over their vanquished. Note The vicious name-calling by the Jews against Jesus but not his arguments. Look at the slop sold as 💯 safe & effective since 20 / 20 by the double double crossers XX XX ‡ ‡.... To be bound to money and god is quite a risky complex consequential enterprise. It takes more than just the imperious but also the domestic indolent desperate hopeless and hopeful flock stuck between Iraq and hard places... IMHO.
@quartodecimani6908
@quartodecimani6908 15 сағат бұрын
@@Madasin_Paine I am sorry, but your writing style is unintelligible for me. No hard feelings. I just can't follow your reasoning.
@Madasin_Paine
@Madasin_Paine 10 сағат бұрын
@@quartodecimani6908 Ineffable is like that no matter how much I work on my reading and writing skills. The artist is this the most powerful and the most subversive amongst communication ways and means. Work on your reading skills and comprehension.
@ffliberty
@ffliberty 11 ай бұрын
Considering Constantine outlawed many essential Christian practices…
@kuyab9122
@kuyab9122 2 ай бұрын
After his conversion?
@ffliberty
@ffliberty 2 ай бұрын
@@kuyab9122 he was never a genuine follower of the Messiah Christ. Actions matter, not words or folklore.
@lettuceman9439
@lettuceman9439 2 ай бұрын
@robertbialozynski6334 I think in reading his many accounts that Constantine genuinely believed in JC but is ultimately a horrible person, He did try to make centralized which during the time Christianity was scattered and was having it's early shisms with arianism and Donatism.
@user-uo7yw8jc7z
@user-uo7yw8jc7z 4 сағат бұрын
Considering the early church fathers believe in what most of the Catholic Church believes today it's safe to say Constantine did not create the Catholic Church however constant is not recognized as a saint
@user-zo4gy5co1j
@user-zo4gy5co1j 11 ай бұрын
Cross was pagan symbol Egyptian Greek Slavic
@lettuceman9439
@lettuceman9439 2 ай бұрын
One Slavs have yet appeared in Europe. The Cross is pretty obvious since you know the "Crucifixion of Jesus Christ" The Chinro is a acronym written in Koine Greek taking the first letters of Jesus Christ, The Bible (The New Testament) itself was originally in Koine Greek. Egyptian?, Sure bro Nubia and Ethiopia next door were the first christian Kingdoms
@zorafilms
@zorafilms Ай бұрын
No shit. The Romans were known for crucifying people. Again, Romans.
@ishiftfocus1769
@ishiftfocus1769 5 ай бұрын
When the Emperor Constantine declared himself to be the Summus Pontifex, what followed was more than ten centuries of Dark Ages, during which time people who professed Christ rather than Mary or the Popes, people who denied transubstantiation, were fed to lions or burned at the stake. During the Dark Ages, for a common person to read the Bible was a sin for which there was no forgiveness; and so the people were spoon-fed from the papist pulpit. The Bible was said to exist only in the Latin text and the common and largely illiterate people could learn the stories that were in the Bible from paintings and stained glass windows. Those who first made the Bible available in the language of the people were killed for their trouble; but when Martin Luther quoted Paul, of all people, the Protestant Reformation began. The gospel that saves is that Christ accomplished everything needed to save you from sin and death when he died on the cross for sins. The cross took your sin problem out of the way already, and through his resurrection you can have free righteousness on Christ’s behalf through faith (2 Cor 5:21, Rom 4:24-25; Rom 5:1). Do you believe this? Do you trust this gospel? By trusting his death and resurrection for your salvation and adding no other works or church traditions you are sealed with the Holy Ghost (Eph 1:13, Rom 4:5). This latter “no works” disclaimer is necessary for all those who would make God’s grace powerless to save by adding any necessary work to Christ’s finished work (e.g. baptism, confessions, prayers, experiences, etc.)
@mikebunales9768
@mikebunales9768 Ай бұрын
Amen
@My10thAccount
@My10thAccount 17 күн бұрын
Congratulations if you believe this wholeheartedly, you’ve officially made Christ a liar by saying that the gates of hell overcame his Church. It’s genuinely incredible to me that people who profess faith in Christ have so little faith in God’s power that he couldn’t deliver Rome into the hands of the Christian Faith. The whole story of how Rome became Christian even has parallels to the Exodus of the Israelites, but with a Christian twist. The chosen people (in this case it’s the apostles and early church) flee from the oppression of the current authorities (in the OT it was Egypt, in the NT it’s Israel) into foreign, pagan lands where they overcome the native religions and peoples before establishing a kingdom dedicated to God. The big difference is that while Israel had authority to wipe out the Canaanites, the early Christians had to follow the example of Christ’s sacrifice and wait patiently for God’s deliverance. Which eventually came after 300 some odd years of collective suffering, when the leader of the land gave his empire over to God. You can’t look at that story and not see the guiding hand of the Lord behind it. This propaganda is a genuine blight on Christendom and in its ravenous hatred of Catholicism, does nothing but bring the entire validity of the Christian Faith into question by imply God is so impotent and pathetic that a mere human conquer could successfully silence his Church for over a millennium. While also simultaneously exalting those who deliver it by claiming that they just so happen to be special enough to know “the real truth of history”.
@davidmathews9633
@davidmathews9633 25 күн бұрын
The followers of Yeshua kept the Sabbath and God's commands. They did what Yeshua taught. " worship GOD and serve HIM only- Matt. 4:10
@endykakiay6657
@endykakiay6657 12 күн бұрын
Would that include Jesus as deity?
@arniepayne2906
@arniepayne2906 9 ай бұрын
Eusebius also added John 6:4 which added 2 years to the Messiah's ministry, which was about a years. Even Eusebius said that is was about a year.
@user-nn3dd1me8r
@user-nn3dd1me8r 4 ай бұрын
He had a lot of guts, Constantine made Christianity imperial.he did the hardest thing, keeping everybody happy!
@catherinewilson9894
@catherinewilson9894 Ай бұрын
He might’ve been a psychopath because they are able to take big risks without flinching. A lot of CEO’s are psychopaths, they are often very successful. He reminds me of Joseph Smith.
@danhanley163
@danhanley163 2 ай бұрын
This is story is similar to Henry 8th and Thomas Cromwell Constantine's lies were on steroids 😫😅
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 2 ай бұрын
Mitra in Sanskrit is Sun God. So Mitras must have been of Indo Aryan origin.
@dare2scheme904
@dare2scheme904 19 күн бұрын
God is true. Constantine was truly great among men.
@michaelfalsia6062
@michaelfalsia6062 6 ай бұрын
What emerges out of this pseudo conversion of Constantine is a faith that ultimately is far removed from the faith taught by the Lord Jesus and His inspired apostles in the New Covenant writings. New Covenant Christianity knows nothing of a Christian society endorsed and protected by a secular ruler or government. Nor does anyone who comes to true faith in Jesus by a vision or a dream. Romans 10:10-17. Constantine may have seen a vision or had a dream, but that is the work of Satan not God. 2 Thessalonians 2:8-14. Revelation 13:16; 16:13. Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world. He did not send his apostles and His disciples into the world to build a Christian civilization or particular nation states! Emphatically not.
@Pookielicious11
@Pookielicious11 6 ай бұрын
I've been trying to tell otters about this. He centered himself, which the elites no doubt caught onto and have continued to bastardize Christianity for themselves. Freaking Tax exemption since Ancient times blows my mind. It shows how intentional it's all been. Christianity doesn't need to be destroyed. It needs to be saved.
@kuyab9122
@kuyab9122 2 ай бұрын
"He did not send his apostles and His disciples into the world to build a Christian civilization or particular nation states! Emphatically not." Ever heard of The Great Commission? "Therefore go and make disciples of all NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," (Matthew 28:19, NIV)
@michaelfalsia6062
@michaelfalsia6062 Ай бұрын
​@kuyab9122 That is exactly what I was saying. My Kingdom is NOT of this world. The great commission is about making disciples out from all nations etc. Baptizing THEM etc.... The Greek is quite clear about baptizing only disciples into the evangelical faith. We agree. Revelation 5:9,10 complements Matthew 28:18-20.
@jamesrenfroe9563
@jamesrenfroe9563 14 күн бұрын
You say no one comes to faith by a vision or a dream???????, what about Paul's vision on the road to Damascus. No wonder there is so confusion in Christianity
@michaelfalsia6062
@michaelfalsia6062 13 күн бұрын
@jamesrenfroe9563 Paul was directly spoken to by the Lord himself if you hadn't read the passage properly. It was not a vision. The book of Acts provides not a single example of anyone being saved in this manner. Not one! Paul the apostle to the Romans 10:14-17.
@xS146roar
@xS146roar 5 ай бұрын
Roman empire was the last beast in daniel.. And this beast was destroyed by islamic kheliphet .. The stone 🪨 destroyed the beast
@MrFinius
@MrFinius Ай бұрын
Jesus was not an anti Roman rebel.
@ScottDean-ee2hy
@ScottDean-ee2hy 9 күн бұрын
Jesus is the Lord! Big thing with Jesus no more needs to shed blood Jesus powerful blood finished the offer of blood...!
@pw5013
@pw5013 2 ай бұрын
maybe , maybe not .
@getitrightchannel2040
@getitrightchannel2040 Ай бұрын
Wait. Couldn’t they have broken off the crosses ?
@Paul-xv4qh
@Paul-xv4qh Ай бұрын
The cross /stake is the supposed instrument of death. So if you died in a car. People will wear a car or a wrecked car necklace on there neck as in memory of you. You People need take another look . Follower of the christ.
@myownstationofficespa9736
@myownstationofficespa9736 2 ай бұрын
BUT WHO MADE MADE JESUS A CHRISTIAN OR WAS THAT HIS BIRTH NAME🤔
@deb681
@deb681 2 ай бұрын
Jesus is not Christian. He is the Christ. Christians follow Jesus - in the Book of Isaiah - before Christ is born, it is prophesied - ”For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.“ - Isaiah‬ ‭9‬:‭6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
@ScottDean-ee2hy
@ScottDean-ee2hy 9 күн бұрын
Jesus is the Lord! I doubt like the Word of God was changed... Constantine waited until he was near death to be baptized... So then he wouldn't live very long to obey the word of God... Everyone knew without the shedding of blood there was no forgiveness of sin's! God slew animal to cover Adam and Eve sin! After Jesus sacrifice and resurrection no need to shed blood...! Amen!
@michaelp.3369
@michaelp.3369 2 ай бұрын
The devil is testing the faiths of Christians with this video.
@josh3pcsuits932
@josh3pcsuits932 4 ай бұрын
The biggest con....Christianity. How can one of the youngest religion alongside Islam be the one true religion, when the oldest known religion's are Hinduism, Judaism, and the good old Paganism. Putting the horse before the cart.
@lettuceman9439
@lettuceman9439 2 ай бұрын
??? Christianity spread is pretty clear even in secular eyes. 1) It actively sought to convert and as a historic force it had the attributes which disregarded economic and geographical incentives which enabled it to holdout in even isolated pockets, Remember Christianity even before Rome Converted were already the state religion of Armenia and Ethiopia while various Germanic Tribes had already converted. 2) Christianity offered more during the 3rd century crisis. It provided safety nets and Christianity emphasis on charity and repentance means that specifically target those in the lower caste of society 3) It's attractive to Women, Remember in the Ancient World wives were more of a property of the patriach. Christianity enforcement of monogamy and the agreement that the husband would provide and stay faithful gave it a significant edge, specially in Constantine case since his mother was a Christian. 4) Christianity is intellectual, Not to the pretentious kind but the christianity actively studied itself and the world, that might be antithetical to the current image of Christianity but Christianity even today is the largest patron of arts and science. Again what I mean by intellectual is that Christianity and also Islam is that both developed to explain and investigate the nature of their faith which on the long term enabled doctrines to be codified and expand, Something which Hinduism struggled with during India's early independence and even today.
@kaidanalenko5222
@kaidanalenko5222 Ай бұрын
The biggest con is the sand cresent moon with huge gamecube in the middle of fungus infested marble floor. You know how their operandi works to join more members...
@kaidanalenko5222
@kaidanalenko5222 Ай бұрын
either convert or unlives.... or high taxes during the stealing of Constantinople by modern day bird sounding place found in further southeast of europe.
@NovahScott
@NovahScott 21 күн бұрын
Hinduism is a joke religion hahaha, Upper class pagan caste religion, by the Judaism is tree to Christianity. In Judaism people worship Jesus
@NovahScott
@NovahScott 21 күн бұрын
Seems like devil made this man to make this video.
@turtlegrams6582
@turtlegrams6582 2 ай бұрын
👁️👁️⚖️✝️🩸👑🍞💧🌡️😡🌪️🌋👂👀⏳,, No, constantine lied ! The old "if you can't beat them "join" them / the enemy of my enemy is my friend/hegelian dialect predictive programing mind games thesis antithesis synthesis
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