Man, this guy covers all the angles. Not only does he have his bugout vehicle fully prepped, but it's a Subaru. That way, if he's followed, he can lose the tail at an Indigo Girls concert.

Very based, was expecting unhinged overpreparedness but u chose items proportional to the probability you'd need them

Good stuff. I would consider adding a tool kit with some wrenches, sockets/ratchet, screwdrivers, pliers, safety wire, zip ties, hammer, maybe a crowbar, etc.

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One suggestion is a lightweight rain jacket, typically really good for insulating, and I know that every time I've had a flat or something of that nature it's been in the rain and cold and I didn't have a rain jacket and got soaked and or froze half to death.

You took it to the next level with this one. Very well done and great info all the way around. Will take tip on using NVG to pickup girls at parties.

Thanks for the shoutout bro! Great to have you and Hop out for some good training. Vehicle Defense is an important piece to the preparedness game. Look forward to linking up again!

Great video as always, Brass Facts. Couple things I would like to add. 1: Learn basic mechanics. While it's true the newer cars get the harder it is to work on them, it's not a golden rule. Mechanical knowledge is a skill that fewer and fewer people learn every year. In a shtf scenario vehicles are going to be ridden hard and put away wet. They are going to break down often, no matter the make or model. Sure you can change a tire, but what if your spare blows too? What if you bust a brake line? Can you run basic diagnostics on a vehicle that suddenly won't start? How confident are you that you can get it back on the road? These are things that need to be learned and practiced just as much as your shooting skills. If not more so. The dude with gucci gear and no training "becoming a loot drop", and the dude with great firearms training and cardio that died of dehydration because his cars radiator sprung a leak he couldn't fix while he was in the middle of the desert, are in the same category. 2: Make sure you TEST those battery jump packs IN ADVERSE CONDITIONS before you trust them. I can't count how many of those battery bank jump starters have failed to jump a car for me in the winter, (when you actually need it). Sure they advertise the ability to do so, but maybe that's only with a car battery that's just barely too weak to work normally, and in warm weather. What if the battery is completely stone dead and it's 10 below zero? Does it have the juice to jump the car on its own? Did you know many types of lithium batteries straight up will not send any power at all when they get below freezing? Did you consider that hooking a fully charged battery jump pack up to a completely dead battery is going to probably cut the available amps of the battery pack in half? Always get the biggest and best battery jump starter you can afford. (Noco Boost jump packs have done great in my personal experience) These are all things that need to be considered

One of the best, most realistic vehicle load outs I have seen. I carry a lot more tools in my truck, but the basics you are showing are great baseline to go off of!

The cell phone thing he referred to. DHS will shut off all communication services in a wrol emergency. A great item to add to your vehicle is a large towel, and a few magnets. I use it to cover my windshield during below freezing weather. Being able to just hop in your truck/car and just go is SO nice.

In addition, I have a get home bag with the typical stuff tou mentioned in my truck. I usually take an AR with me, I'm heavy on trauma/medical since I'm a paramedic for decades.

Big fan of BearIndependent's Refuge Medical. I have one of the headrest kits in each vehicle, plus I have them on my cool-guy kit and get-home bag.

Good tips. I like how no one is going to read the title! I like to also have a bit of spare fluids onboard; trans, engine oil, windshield wiper fluid, etc ; def some isopropyl alcohol. (My car/truck don't leak, but I know enough people... plus stuff happens). The alcohol is for melting ice in locks or to unstick a door. With a US GI canteen cup and stove stand, some cotton balls, make a quick fire to warm up water for drinking or coffee.

Finally! Someone who understands that not all overlanding vehicles are the best prepper vehicles!

I keep a case of MREs and 4 gallons of water in my car, that way if i get snowed in i have food and water As well as a wool blanket

Dude the subaru forester is invisible while still being able to carry most of the stuff i want to carry 99% of the time. It's gotten me anywhere i wanted to go in the cascades in winter as well as the white mountains.

Great advice! I would also add a light bulb kit with headlights and tail lights. Also some sort of signaling device like road flares or led strobes. It would suck to get smacked by a car while changing a tire because someone didn’t see you. The last thing would be hot hands. They’re cheap and small but they can be placed on your core or junctions to help maintain your body temp if you get stranded

I might have missed it, but i have the following in mine: Dashboard sized solar panel, throwable fire extinguisher, road flares, handheld or CB radio, 10x10 tarp, 1000' spool of Paracord, full spare set of clothes and rain gear.

I think every vehicle needs a small tool kit in it. 1/4 or 3/8 drive metric socket set, combination wrench set, some sort of changable bit screw driver, needle nose pliers and a vice grips. Not enough to fix everything, but enough to handle your normal small breakdowns or quick fixes. And whatever you need for that vehicle to replace the belts on the engine.

I feel like night vision is often more expensive than a second vehicle, depending on what you choose.

My 2008 RAV4 "4wd" v6 has been amazing for this type of purpose! Daily driver with 20+ mpg and a surprising amount of capabilities! Pulled through snow/ice with ease, through deep sand, mud... all kinds of adverse terrain. Spare tire on the back means more space under the comparment in the back. 10/10 would recommend.

If you own a set of power tools most manufacturers usually make a usb adapter their batteries. Its a cheaper option for a power bank for anyone that already has the batteries. They work to jumpstart a car in a pinch as well.

Jumper cables are definitely recommended, especially with larger engines. Besides, you can't use one of those USB/light boxes to energize potential sources of information you recently captured.

one underrated problem in the Oregon area is that almost ALL of our states fuel storage and distribution is located on the "tank farm" so if a natural disaster happens like the looming megathrust earthquake, there just wont be fuel for almost the whole state for quite some time because liquefaction + the airport damage is going to leave your own gas tank as all your gas for the next weeks or even months so that will be quite rough

I really appreciate you keeping the BS out of your videos. Information without the moral virtue signalling, religious polarity, or fruitless griping. You take the time to evaluate things many preach for or against. I dig the commitment to being reasonably objective.

A stock tacoma trd off road or frontier pro 4x with a good hard cover and either BFG KO2's or Duratrac's is my go to set up. Good capability and dependability, and the rear locker adds a ton of capability without the look of a heavily modded vehicle.

I feel the contact lens fluid thing in my soul. LASIK, g, it's life-changing

I love this. I feel like everyone I've ever talked to about bugging out has never considered where they're actually going to bug out to, what would cause them to determine bugging out is the best choice, what adverse scenario they are bugging out and preparing for, and how they will handle a road system being 100% clogged and unpassable, and gas stations not functioning. If your massive vehicle can leave through city streets or has a clear wooded passable path to your destination, great. If your destination is open wilderness to start a homestead on land you didn't previously own or know, it won't end well. You also won't be alone. What happens if you can't buy gas, can't get your vehicle through the roads the rest of the city suddenly wants to leave on with you, or everywhere you go you are unwelcome?

Ryobi makes some interesting car stuff that uses cordless drill batteries. The air compressor has been very good and pasted a while. The jump starter i havent used yet my dad has used it a few times and likes it. Id suggest just adding something like an etool. It takes up no space and shovels are always handy. I would say tools as well (common ratchet, wrench, or driver set) just because it's pretty handy and some of the new bags roll up to take up little cubic space

Gotta agree with the egress scenario; gas is going to be gold.

Makes perfect sense. Well done. Sure you can definitely have more but hey we are all growing. Very grey man. I myself drive a large E350 Econoline cargo van. It's got solar, small power supply, diesel heater, food, water, clothes, boots, ammo, power tools that gets recharged from the power supply, backup firearm, sleeping bag and cot, hygiene supplies, spare tires, and..... don't judge me..... candy. Had to add that last bit for laughs but then I remembered Halloween and I still have candy so......crap

Tire patch kit and compressor are absolute bare minimum. I've patched and inflated tires on my own on the side of the road at least a dozen times. I don't understand how people survive otherwise.

This video came at a good time. I would also suggest a hidden spare key and plb. I am generally well prepared having most all these items permanently in our vehicle, however yesterday while out with the family 4 wheeling in the backcountry in a rarely traversed area 22 miles from cell service and the nearest habitation we misplaced the car key just as we were packing up at sundown. After a methodical search and just as i was prepared to begin a long hike in the dark leaving them behind in the safety and supplies in the vehicle we found the key. Not a good feeling. Ive walked 11 miles after a breakdown in the past and i know how long it takes to walk that distance. I was alone then so there wasnt the stress of leaving anyone, especially children who cannot walk that distance behind. All the suppilies you can think of wont help if you cant turn that ignition. Lesson learned.

Hop is absolutely the unnamed lesbian. Those two boys love flannel plaid, tending the closest gash, and growing whatever body hair will bless them. Just wanna say I'm grateful for you bro. Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving. Keep it going!!

Cool load out. Regarding the candles, I have read that having a small used/washed out tin can that you can drop the tea candles in will result in great heating.

Love the video. I also had a Forester with damn near the same contents for most of its life. However, I have to disagree with your overlanding take. If I had to bug out and leave for an unknown amount of time, I'm taking most of my overlanding gear with me. Not everything, but close to. Most youtubers overlanding gear (4x4 campers, hot showers, overbuilt rigs, popup tents, etc) are pretty rare. Most ordinary overlanders such as myself head out with a tent, food, water, cooking supplies and sleeping supplies. Aka everything I'd want to take if I had to dip.

I have a similar load out in my truck. May I recommend a small mechanics tool kit. Having some sockets and other tools to work on a car on the side of the road or a trail comes in handy. I had a chunk of filament come loose on a spark plug on a newish car and the car wouldn't go above 30mph and was shuddering itself to death. A socket removed the plug, tapped the plug till the loose filament fell out and the car ran fine until I got home. Random things like a little roll of chicken wire for tire traction in sand or mud and a tire knocker also come in handy. Good video!

Aside from the debt aspect of a lot of vehicle preparedness stuff most people also think their overlanding/very lifted vehicle can not only carry everything they need when theres simply not enough space even with a semi truck. But also that it's very low profile when it's became a meme about how much they stick out with such a vehicle, any actual shtf scenario they're probably gonna be the 1st person stopped by any authorities while trying to leave or just shot by someone for their stuff

I’ve really subscribed to the same thinking on equipping your daily driver to do “most things well” kind of like a GPR. I’m lucky that my place of work and my home, in relation to my wife and sons location is within 7 miles round trip. That being said, those can be a grueling 7 miles of unpredictable circumstances without basic to advanced provisions. There are times I hate driving a truck for the mortgage payment I spend weekly at the pump, however, the utilitarian abilities of having additional storage (and also an in bed toolbox) has given me the ability to be less “choosy” and the result of this has not only helped myself but others in distress. Love the mindset, and the content.

A saw is a good idea. I travel a lot of remote areas for work and have to move trees off public roads at least a couple times a month. That is with the DOT operating in any shtf no one is coming to clear them

Never owned a subaru, but a lesbian friend of mine had one and It was amazingly sure footed! I was impressed with it.

Car preparedness 101: don’t buy a vehicle that blows head gaskets and grenades differentials like it’s a job lmao

Primitive racing makes a really good seat mount for that fire extinguisher where it'll stay out of the way but still be super accessible

I always have a shovel, a blanket, a full change of clothes in an old back pack, a silcock key, water bottle, etc. Assume anything in a car can get stolen.

Get a fullsize spare (if you only have a space-saver) in case you have an unrepairable blow-out. Maybe an extra wiper and headlight bulb would also be prudent in consideration of your regular offroad excursions.

The Forester is a bad ass little vehicle! Good on gas, decent amount of power (depending on the engine displacement). The Forester has a decent AWD system and many companies make electric differentials for the damn thing lol. Many night my wife and I spent sleeping in the back of one with the rear sheets down on twin bed while visiting many state parks. Also holds up well in a head on collision (don’t ask how I know) all and all I’m a fan. So much so that the wife wants to trade in the 4Runner (witch was suppose to be a better replacement) for a newer Forester!

4:30 One advantage of a "low capability" vehicle is that you're less likely to need a helicopter to get you unstuck. Carry 100' of plain old 1/2" nylon three strand rope from the hardware store and learn a few basic knots. *ANY* other vehicle will be able to tug you out of any hole you can get stuck in. It's literally the same stuff as the bougie recovery ropes, minus the fancy packaging. Not so with a built 4x4!! You can get verrry stuck with those. Everyone gets stuck eventually - it is inevitable.

Just found your channel this past weekend. Love your style. How you have a lot of footage rolling while you’re talking over it. It really gets my dopamine going.

I chose a Subaru Outback 3.6R over another jeep wrangler for some of the reasons listed. I also added a 2” lift AT tires a nice roof basket and Wilco hitch gate tire carrier with a two 5 gal Jerry can holder a 6 ft rack mounted awning and some ditch lights. I have an ARB Sliding storage boxes in the back along with a 12v fridge and 1024wh 2000w Solar Gen with 160w foldable panel. The mileage and comfort is much better then my jeep and it takes me almost everywhere my jeep did. I do a lot of primitive camping so I use all the gear and aftermarket accessories regularly. No regrets.. ok, occasionally I’ll see a jeep with a n ursa minor top and I get jealous lol.

I drive a ford focus hatchback that has my camping bag and those coast guard rations in it. Thank you for helping me not get drawn into thinking overlanding is preparedness. I would love a rig but you definitely helped me feel better at my preparedness.

I also love my Forester. Thanks for the video, you always have good info

There's so much to preparedness and too many people get lost in the sauce focusing only on their rifles and kit. I gave up a long time ago and just larp because it's fun. I'm dying if anything serious happens.

The “beaaaaaar independence” line got me! Hilarious!

Look into the fire escape biner from Outdoor Element. It's what I use now, seatbelt cutter window breaker and striker wheel to light my stove with. If you have a rollover your strap cutter is still attached to the key in the ignition. If you get stranded in the woods your fire starter is on your keychain

I love that Freddy Mucury's son followed his passion in life, too.

I was thinking something like a couple bear spray canisters under the frame rail set to dispense all around the vehicle at the push of a button! On a serious note, I run a nvg head harness if I need nvgs in a more compact package.

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THANK YOU! I’ve seen so many of these vehicle prep videos that are completely unreasonable and unrealistic for everyday use. Loading a vehicle down with all of that stuff kills MPG and more importantly, where do your kids sit?

This reminds me I need to get a map book or some maps in general of my area, and areas I wanna head to in case things go sideways. I generally know where I need to go (because preplanning) but it is best to have alternative routes like you said.

I second the Refuge Medical kits as being pretty good gear. I have several; My jeep has a winch, straps, and some basic mats to get traction in less than optimal conditions. On a trip from Texas to Utah during an ice storm, I pulled two gals from California who got stuck in a ditch in Moab, and their van was is a bad spot. NO one was stopping to help, until I and another guy did what was needed in about half an hour in a snowstorm. The other guy's girl should be cloned, she was all about diving in and getting muddy, no second thoughts about it. I grew up in Utah, so wasn't anything new. It's better to be ready for things that happen. Be an asset, not a liability. I showed the 2 gals how to use the strap and then gave it to them, in case they needed it moving forward, pun intended.

I good thing to have (if theres room) is a flat board. If you try to jack up your car sometimes the juck just sinks into the mud/Gravel/sand but the wide base of the boads will stop it from sinking

You have a much cooler PDW than I do and a whole lot better first aid stuff but otherwise we're pretty similar in kit. I have a 300 blackout ar pistol which will fit in a tennis racket case or other similar. I have a tow strap in addition to the come along and during the winter I tend to keep a duffle in there with basically snow stuff. Like those stretchy cleats that go over your shoes. Another thing that goes in during the winter is a cordless sawzall with a couple batteries and a basically a pruning blade as well as a few metal cutting. Between all that crap I can get a car or log off the road or cut open pretty quickly. I generally value being the kind of guy who will stop for somebody who's stuck on the side of the road. One thing that comes up a lot is people who don't have stuff tied down properly so I keep some rope I don't care about to help them sort it out. I've given away a few blankets to when people were in car wrecks and out in the cold. I also need to get a fire extinguisher. I know that I have been lacking in that area. And I generally only keep a few water bottles in a few packets of ramen in the trunk. Supposed to get you through a rough night but they're not going to be suitable for your evac scenario. I'm middle-aged and not as fit as you so I keep trecking poles with my day pack and boots. Have the wiser precision qiuck sticks, which are my single favorite hunting accessory. Look them up they are really excellent. One tool I'm going to have anyway now does a couple other jobs very well.

Glad Im not the only one who has the 13 hours scene permanently engraved in my mind

Thank for the wise words about the overlanding dilemma!

Subarus have the best all wheel drive systems. If you live in the mounatins and theres some snow/ice, they smash through especially with good tires

Post-apocalypse, this is how we'll all find each other. "Hey.. got a weird neighbor?"

The KSP reference makes my day

Good point on the overlanding taking over, it does get silly. But you can split the difference. Something like an old Jeep XJ can be nicely upgraded on the cheap and gets good enough mpg (~20) to be a daily driver while adding a couple jerry cans will greatly improve your range in ways worth discussing. It's not large enough to really be an "overlanding vehicle" but it's larger than most cars, more capable, has a lot of upgrade options from bumpers to lights to intakes and ignition and is easy to work on yourself so you can save up for those NVGs. You can trick it out, go lowpro or somewhere in between.

I appreciate the honest admission of why you bring NV with you. While I'm trying to justify it with all the normal reasons most people think of, but in reality, I'm equally likely to get a public intox with my NVGs as I am to save my life or someone else's.

Love my FJ cruiser not over lander build. Just take it off road and camping as well as find nice shooting spots in the middle of no where.

Definitely got some entertainment and solid info at the same time. Brilliant.

I'm now emotionally invested in a relationship between Brock and the girl at 3:13.

Nothing wrong with a Subaru Forester, I had a 2010 Forester. Very capable vehicles and one of the best all wheel drive systems. I installed a simple 2 inch lift kit and slightly bigger wheels and it made it even more capable and is a great daily driver

I've also got a subaru forester, but mine is built up for overlanding and offroading (winch, skids and sliders, tire carrier, lift and oversized ATs), and yea, as long as I'm not rock crawling, it's small enough, and lightweight enough that it will keep up with the jeeps. That being said, it does also have similar preps to what you have, with a few extras, or some of the stuff being higher quality like my air compressor since I will air down to 15-20psi, so a powerful compressor was a must. Not the best vehicle, but ya know what? It's good on gas, it's comfy enough to sleep inside, and it's capable enough to take me well off the beaten path.

I don't know if I would choose Subaru or a CJ for a bug out vehicle. Pickup truck, 6 Jerry cans of gas should get you 600 MI even with crappy mileage. And if you want to pile a bunch to pile a bunch of other refugees in your pickup bed your engine won't explode like a Subi's might.

I always suspected that you and Hop were a couple. Now the subaru seals the deal. 😂. Good video.

1 - Make sure that you have a good high quality latte in the cup holder. Things are gonna get tough. Start out rite. 2 - Load up on Marlboro Red Box, and Mora Companions. You will need them to barter for the pet food you will be consuming. 3 - Forget about firearms, ammunition, bump helmets, plate carriers, and assault packs. Find a Stooge, a chump, who you can send forward - so you can avoid danger, and not have to carry all that stuff. 4 - Zip tie some cardboard to your wheels. Everyone who couldn't afford a dope-ass set of rims during ROL is comin' fuh yo shit. Ain't nobody comin' for my Daytons. 5 - Make sure you have one of every kind of tire, i.e. mud, snow, all season, gas saver, all mounted on cheap rims and ready to install, strapped to your roof.

I just created an idea list for car EDC this morning. What appropriate timing!

People talk crap about Subarus. But they are incredibly capable vehicles and pretty well reliable as well. Fyi on the battery jump packs... dont leave them in your car, if it gets cold those lithium batteries become absolutely worthless... do not rely on them. Ask me how i know.

Ive always thought it would be a good idea to plate the inside of the car pamels

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I think there’s a very fine line between prepared daily driver and an overlander. Without going into details, my vehicle has all wheel drive and as currently loaded gets right at 23 miles per gallon with a range of 380 miles give or tank 20 miles depending upon how the vehicle is driven on just one tank. Still need to add a solar and a jackery other than that I can sleep comfortably in the back and still have ample cargo space. Loved the video tho

The fact that I own the exact same vehicle and within the first 2 minutes you mentioned "lesmobile" is hilarious. If you had any idea how many times I have had my car called that by different people, it would put a smile on your face too 😂.

Matchbox makes a black Subaru Forester. That's my 3 year old's favorite car. Every time he sees one at the store, he has to have it. He has four black Subaru Foresters in his fleet, so far (and one red one). So take that for what it's worth. Some little kid in Idaho thinks you drive the coolest car ever. 😄

I just lost my FJ in an accident I absolutely loved it, it was completely done up for overlanding. I ended up getting a Subaru Crosstrek and frankly I think it’s more practical for blending in, it can handle dirt roads just fine, and has longer range. I actually believe that my Subaru is a better SHTF vehicle.

With so many cars these days eliminating a spare (be it donut or full size), a jack is something most people will need to buy. They'll also need to make sure that the jack they get has the lifting capability to lift their vehicle (a car jack won't left an SUV, etc.)

5:20 BF, we drop air pressure in my wife's stock CR-V all the time for rough Appalachian back roads. Totally fine to go down to 20 or 15 psi. You have a compressor. Test it.

I'm in Australia, different situation both climate wise and what "threats" I face, daily driver is a Holden (Chevy) Colorado extra cab 4x4 "Tray Back", 2.8L TD, cheap to run, 140L of fuel on board (dual tanks) and while not a dedicated "Overlander", I do have a Slide On camper with onboard solar and water that can be mounted and loaded in about 10 mins in a bug out situation, fully loaded mileage highway is 11L/100km or 21mpg as tested...

I ran over a cone in my g37, started a fire from friction in 45 seconds. A cup of coffee put it out. My mechanic said any other shop would have said its totaled all the wires had to be re done

This may be a good reminder.. Bass frequencies are omnidirectional and dissipate over distance much closer to the sound source than mid and high range frequencies. Have your buddy stand at the end of your street and yell. Then whisper in your ear. Thats also why everyone thinks their voice is deeper than it is. Bass frequencies ignore or amplify on/through barriers. Mid freqs and highs reflect off, bounce around, etc. Volume increases the performance of all waveforms. So... Impact on cover from a larger round causes bass tones. The physically resisting or absorbing properties of the cover have similar affects on sound. Proximity to explosions increases perception of all frequencies. Silencers vastly reduce all frequencies, but the sound emitted by an explosion is dependent largely on how long your barrel is and how much powder is consumed before the projectile exits the barrel and sound from the combustion is permitted to leave the barrel behind it. Larger projectiles generally require more propellent to move and thus transmit "bass" through moving matter around them and whatever they contact. Thus, felt explosions from cannons being bassy. The larger the projectile down range causing sound barrier cracks, the louder they will be and the wider range of frequencies they will carry. 5.56 guns we are most familiar with emit a much louder report of high frequencies both from initial barrel departure and from supersonic cracks than some other combinations of calibers and barrel lengths found commonly in the wild. Bare in mind also that sound emitting from unsuppressed guns get louder based first on initial pressure and volume, thus generally the larger a gun is to accommodate a larger projectile and more propellant at a higher initial pressure from combustion, the louder it will be. Consciously knowing this can help you recognize sound signatures and distances with additional effort and testing.

You described the Subaru correctly. But that wombat can climb a mountain of sand stock. . .

Car prep must be IN. Nutn and his multi-part VBOK series and now BF. Fun!

A polarized lens filter is best for filming through glass.

Don’t put a B-C fire extinguisher in the kitchen. Put a K for kitchen. It’s literally made for kitchen fires and grease.

Really glad to see someone else with a "real" setup. Too many fake ones simply for youtube. I have a suburban So I hear a bit more room and a few more items, but I also have 2 small kids and a wife to consider

Big part of my job is surveillance/counter surveillance and vehicle work is pretty standard. The biggest thing you can do for evasion is having a low profile vehicle like the Subaru you have here. I own a 2014 Cherokee and that thing looks completely inconspicuous while still having decent storage and a little bit of off-road capability. If I see a Tan Toyota Tacoma covered trunk to hood in stickers from tactical brands or the infamous thin blue line stuff, I'm 100000% drawn to that vehicle if I'm looking for trouble or a gun in the glove box. The whole point of being grey men is to blend and that goes for grooming/clothing too. Let the beard/hair grow out a bit, ditch the grunt style/511 shirts and stop wearing Multicam in public lol

I have one of the 12v plug in compressors, and it works, but I would recommend getting the ryobi compressor/blower combo, or the handheld compressor. I have both, used the hell out of them, and they’re great.

Although they are expensive, you should look into ortho k lenses. They're contacts you wear at night and take out in the morning and have good vision for the rest of the day, may help alleviate some of your contact fears

Honda Element owner here. Total sleeper rig.

You need to test your jack and lug wrench. My father and I had trucks that were 5 years apart and different manufacturers, and both of our factory lug wrenches did fit our lug nuts. Good idea to just get a 4-way lug wrench