I like how the game let's you play as the Silver Shroud in the early game, but then as the Tommy Gun becomes quickly outpaced by other weapons, you kinda just have to grow out of it like it was your teenage superhero phase.
@XSilver_WaterXАй бұрын
High Luck, High Percept, and High Agility is the only ways you can do a Silver Shroud only build. Only beef up Adamantium Skeleton as Spray and Pray requires mid to close range for it be effective.
@cat-meowhoodАй бұрын
"Skinny Malone will remember this"
@dillonc7955Ай бұрын
Even with the spray and pray I still find myself burning through ammo like crazy with the Thompson. The combat rifle is a much more efficient way to use .45 in my opinion. This doesn't even pale in comparison to the Thompson in New Vegas whatsoever.
@windwalker5765Ай бұрын
Even better, the Kiloton Radium Rifle. RR has a higher base damage than the SMG, has much better upgrade options, and has radiation damage. Kiloton benefits from Explosives Expert AND Nuclear Physicist, plus either Commando or Rifleman. It's absolutely dominant at mid-range.
@katkong281Ай бұрын
The Spray n' Pray uses the same ammo as the Overseer's Guardian, which is better in my opinion. Along with being unsafe to use in tight areas, that bumps it down a little bit for me. I bet this gun would be sick in the hands of companions, though
@JustanotherconsumerАй бұрын
I found a legendary 10mm with the same effect, basically used it to clear trash. I also had a 10mm with bleed that I found earlier that I used in the same role (in both cases with 0 commando perks).
@user-cp2xo7nr8yАй бұрын
The only weapon in .45 cal worthy of using it.
@basicallybacon2593Ай бұрын
Fun Fact: For most weapons in fallout 4 the compensator reduces recoil even more than the later muzzle break and in some cases almost removes recoil from most cases.
@AlekTrev006Ай бұрын
really ??? which ones can you think of, offhand ?
@simonacerton3478Ай бұрын
Even as powerful as Spray and Pray is, the explosive pipe rifle is just as good and has easier to get ammo Also hip fire though high on the strength tree helps with the way most people use it.
@katkong281Ай бұрын
Getting an explosive pipe weapon early on is so game-changing
@simonacerton3478Ай бұрын
@@katkong281 Almost too easy TBH. Almost. Upsides to S&P is its guaranteed and looks better
@JustanotherconsumerАй бұрын
Playing survival and trying to get specific legendaries is a really tall order.
@simonacerton3478Ай бұрын
@@Justanotherconsumer Indeed it is.
@froggybob123Ай бұрын
these fallout weapon review videos are like crack to me. keep it up!!! :)
@LuckyArceusАй бұрын
"Who's this tommy guy and why do i have his gun?" 😂😂😂
@ReapeeRonАй бұрын
I think he goes by Thomas now a days.
@JustanotherconsumerАй бұрын
For the luck of the Irish in Boston we can call it McThomp.
@JustanotherconsumerАй бұрын
I usually switch the Overseer’s Guardian to a different caliber as soon as I can anyway. Doing a survival run and went to get it early and Clover was parked outside Vault 81 as I was leaving. Figures.
@Josh_1312Ай бұрын
I like how the regular Tommy Gun gets outclassed by other weapons rather quickly, but you can beat the whole game with the Spray'n'pray. I remember literally beating Nuka-World with it to the point of anihilating all of the raider gangs. The only issue was my character being a typical glass cannon. Also it would be so much better if you could give Kent your own Tommy Gun to apply a silver "skin" to it. Instead I just attached the explosive effect to the silver SMG (not so much of an exploit if you have bought S&P beforehand)
@SuiberisАй бұрын
It's a weirdly underpowered weapon given that .45 ACP is a pretty big round IRL. The combat rifle and radium rifle are a much better use of the ammo. Interestingly, the attachment pack mod gives it a 10mm receiver, making it a pretty decent weapon for commandos with its much larger magazine compared to the automatic 10mm pistol. I honestly think vanilla FO4 should have gone this route from the start.
@Rj-pw7zsАй бұрын
Spray n Pray is pretty great but the base Tommy gun is pretty meh.
@devonchafe2764Ай бұрын
It's too heavy and doesn't do enough damage, really disappointing weapon
@jacehackworth6413Ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure they made a cut down stock the default so much is because full stocks clip through the arms and Bethesda wanted to avoid people seeing npc’s like that all the time.
@davidhong1934Ай бұрын
One of the few instances in which the equivalent pipe weapon (the.38 automatic pistol/rifle) is the better option solely by virtue of using a more common ammo type
@ShneekeyTheLostАй бұрын
The automatic pipe rifle is also half the weight, while doing the same damage, and is obtainable right out of the vault. So there's several advantages it has over the SMG.
@ShneekeyTheLostАй бұрын
The problem with the SMG/Tommygun is that the Pipe Pistol, modded as an automatic weapon, is the exact same damage and rate of fire, firing the more common and cheaper .38 ammo, and weighs less than half. There is literally zero reason to use one. Spray and Pray has a good affix for an automatic weapon, so that's good, but the Kiloton Radium Rifle is basically this, but actually decent damage and bonus radiation damage on top of it, and for an automatic weapon person, probably the best weapon in the game barring something like a Wounding Handmade Rifle or something. Never use this weapon unless you actively want a challenge. It is *possible* to beat the game with this weapon, but it will be in spite of it rather than because of it.
@Flood520Ай бұрын
I would go as far as calling it worthless.
@silverjohn6037Ай бұрын
I'd agree that the right Legendary makes or breaks a lot of guns in FO4. An Explosive Fatman for example is pretty meh as is an Instigating Tommy Gun. Reverse the Legendary effects though and the weapons become epic. That said I'd rather farm for an Explosive Pipe Gun than go with the Spray and Pray. Much lighter and with a cheaper ammo that isn't competing with another, more useful, gun in my inventory.
@Nyxael5845Ай бұрын
Explosive weapons rely heavily on weapons with a fast rate of fire or shotguns that have a high pellet count per shot. Easily the most busted legendary effect in the game.
@gerwaanhartfield7261Ай бұрын
Ahh one of my favorites even though it was better in New Vegas
@basicallybacon2593Ай бұрын
To sum up, not very. Even the spray and pray at higher levels/difficulties. Save for the overseers guardian more ammo efficient for survival and much higher damage.
@JustanotherconsumerАй бұрын
Given that the OG can use three different rounds not much worry that it shares ammo long term.
@alanhong99Ай бұрын
Well, tommy gun is like a downgrade version of automatic combat rifle. Even using the same ammo. Not to mention, after visiting the far harbor, basically this gun is never used.
@user-cp2xo7nr8yАй бұрын
Tommy gun is useless in FO4. Utterly and irredeemably.
@ReapeeRonАй бұрын
Well, it can be good but that is more the legendary effects making it good.
@devinvaldesalice742720 күн бұрын
It's so you can have more customization, RON! It's fun to have to start with the crappiest gun stock imaginable and work your way up, RON! Stop complaining about the guns, Ronald. It's a fictional universe, and a video game as well. 😠
@HatsworthfulАй бұрын
Oddly enough the double barrel being cut down and without a stock by default sorta makes sense in fallout specifically. Not for like in-universe rules or something, but basically because its been the default for the gun since fallout 1
@-TakingSomeLsАй бұрын
Ahhhh the tommygun the most...garbage .45 weapon in the game unless you nab spray and pray and even then, overseers guardian exists
@Esteem_Boat_WillyАй бұрын
It's trash. Who plays with auto weapons?
@JustanotherconsumerАй бұрын
I had two 10mm I used on my first play at the game, one bleed and one boom, and both were great at full auto with no perks invested.
@writersblockdoc4488Ай бұрын
The only time the submachine gun is remotely decent is when you get it with the wounding/plasma infused/freezing effect. Addendum. i avoid mentioning the explosive effect because on anything with a high rof it can lag out the game looking at you explosive minigun that ate my 4070
@Nyxael5845Ай бұрын
Freezing legendary effect + Overdrive is so busted