Reason in a Place of Pain | John Lennox and Rosemary Avery at Cornell

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10 жыл бұрын

John Lennox (Oxford) and Rosemary Avery (Cornell) discuss the compatibility of faith and reason in the light of suffering. | Cornell University, 2013 | Explore more at www.veritas.org.
Speakers:
John Lennox - Professor of Mathematics (Emeritus) at the University of Oxford
Moderator:
Rosemary Avery - Professor of Public Policy at Cornell University
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@megalopolis2015
@megalopolis2015 5 жыл бұрын
I never tire of hearing John Lennox. His words are like a balm to my soul, energizing my mind, reminding me of who God is, as well as calming my heart, as though he is reading me a bedtime story. Many continued blessings to him and his family.
@veronicajoseph3329
@veronicajoseph3329 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@coreyking1182
@coreyking1182 2 жыл бұрын
instablaster...
@bensonongoma1504
@bensonongoma1504 Жыл бұрын
Amen and amen!
@williamoarlock8634
@williamoarlock8634 6 ай бұрын
For Tory and Trumper 'souls'.
@megalopolis2015
@megalopolis2015 5 ай бұрын
@@williamoarlock8634 If you insist on placing zero intrinsic value on anything in your Life, that's your business. I choose to follow Truth and hope, which can only be found through faith in Christ. So, if it's all the same to you, just leave me to it in peace. If ever you want more, we'll be around.
@shaunT20
@shaunT20 4 ай бұрын
God broke the mold with Mr John Lennox he is a true inspiration to me and the rest of humanity that has had the pleasure to hear him speak
@PhillipLWilcher
@PhillipLWilcher 2 ай бұрын
What a wonderful, wonderful man! John Lennox serves in part the restoration for my Faith, when frailties creep in to see it wane. His gift to me is personal in that sense, even though I do not know him and yet, I feel that I do!
@ericarmstrong3313
@ericarmstrong3313 5 жыл бұрын
Once again I learn something new by listening to John Lennox
@alanwilson3661
@alanwilson3661 7 ай бұрын
Lots of fun listening to John Lennox and his explanations of the Christian faith.
@lofigeniustm2216
@lofigeniustm2216 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless Professor Lennox with a Long Life and Health.
@zionbound5801
@zionbound5801 10 жыл бұрын
Lennox , i am looking forward to seeing you in the first resurrection. May the Holy spirit continue to strengthen you . Shabbath Shalom
@christopherstead4466
@christopherstead4466 3 жыл бұрын
Just wonderful insightful and therapeutic
@hughlehman428
@hughlehman428 4 жыл бұрын
I _love_ John Lennox.
@frankirfourfingers
@frankirfourfingers 5 жыл бұрын
This is really really good
@BrightRomeo
@BrightRomeo 10 жыл бұрын
John Lennox Top Man
@fourteatwo5942
@fourteatwo5942 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. No-one shall say you cannot find God on youtube. Pace be with you all
@fourteatwo
@fourteatwo 10 жыл бұрын
Magyari Sergiu thanks for your encouraging words and I wonder which of my comments you read. Unfortunately most of my my comments get hidden by being marked as spam and your test might be as well so I can't see it here. Having had a revelation event that frightened me to some extend I find myself in a position to be able to understand the sacred texts in a way that puzzles me as to whay what I can see is not is not clear to everyone else at it is the pure logic. It has fixed my worldview in a way that suddenly i can see the coherence of almost everything. I understand how we got here and were we go and start to become more outspoken about my understandings. you are very wellcome to PM (private message) me - if this text does not get blocked - to have a private discussion.
@fourteatwo5942
@fourteatwo5942 10 жыл бұрын
excellent video.
@erikglow8458
@erikglow8458 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@susan1812
@susan1812 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much too sir John. Susan C. Sotto ,Philippines
@francesstratton695
@francesstratton695 8 ай бұрын
That was amazing and so true…🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️♥️
@Bless-the-land-the-sea-people
@Bless-the-land-the-sea-people 11 ай бұрын
God gave his only be gotten son on the cross to die for us to have eternal life. That is a win win. The hope for the future by faith. That is the core of Christianity. We are not like those who has no hope. Amen. May God our lord Jesus give you more wisdom to win many souls.
@franciscocepeda8416
@franciscocepeda8416 3 жыл бұрын
If you want Jesus can and will heal your pain, if not in this life in the next.
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus died almost 2000 years ago and the gardener who does the yard behind my apartment doesn't have a medical license. ;-)
@fourteatwo5942
@fourteatwo5942 10 жыл бұрын
at 1:13 he comes close to explaining the logical limitation of atheist morality which is based on the self based worldview. The Golden rule is exactly what is says, only golden. God's rule beats it any day. I challenge the viewers to explain the difference between them. Once you understand them you understand why it is the rule of evolution and the basis of stable existence. I would really love to debate this with Lennox one day as after all as a mathematician he should be able to turn this into a mathematical proof.
@breakerparsons253
@breakerparsons253 10 жыл бұрын
with respect can you explain a bit more about --- " I challenge the viewers to explain the difference between them." please.? im genuinely interested . Kindest regards
@breakerparsons253
@breakerparsons253 10 жыл бұрын
fourteatwo wow it takes time to comprehend what you have written,are you a philosopher ? i understand the golden rule as "Love your neighbour",or "treat others as you would want others to treat you." the 2 rules are "Love God with all your heart,soul and mind" and "Love your neighbour as yourself" matthew 22:37-40 you make a lot of sense with the competing selfs,i havent looked at it this way before i am a christian and i have had an NDE Thankyou for you giving me your time and explanation God bless
@fourteatwo5942
@fourteatwo5942 10 жыл бұрын
Breaker parsons I am at a loss why my reply to you has vanished. do you still have a copy of it?
@DavidWilliams-rk1nq
@DavidWilliams-rk1nq 6 жыл бұрын
Lennox seems to have left a very important detail out in trying to explain the reason for evil , suffering and disease in this world. In the book of revelation, the angels said woe unto the world because the devil and the fallen angels have been cast out of heaven into this world. Evil is rampant in the world because this is a fallen world and it’s king is the devil. Jesus cast out all kinds of demons that afflicted people , sometimes causing seizures and mental illness. Trying to explain an illness like deep depression that plagues a lot of people, using deficiency of serotonin and dopamine in the brain is not recognizing the fact that there could be a spiritual cause as well.
@megalopolis2015
@megalopolis2015 5 жыл бұрын
Very good point. We always need to look at the world through the lens of God. Spiritual discernment is vital to dealing with strife on Earth.
@mick1gallagher
@mick1gallagher 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in fairy's
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 Жыл бұрын
@@mick1gallagherread G K Chesterton’s ‘Orthodoxy’. He proudly points out the will for the belief in faeries or father Christmas or mermaids and such beautiful childish make-believe is a sign of a beautiful soul…. He was 6’6” tall and built big and was tough physically - so stop being a girl and think far harder. Christ takes a leap of faith - but on the other side when you land is Truth and a total state of bliss like you have never imagined, nor ever could.
@overcamehim
@overcamehim 5 жыл бұрын
If God created men and angels and gave them free will, then it would be right to say that God created evil. Isaiah tells us this in chapter 45:7. Those who are abiding in Christ are overcoming the world. They overcome evil with good because the Author and Finisher of their faith finished His Father's work , defeated the works of Satan, the god of this world, triumphing over death, hell, the grave, the world, the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life. God invites us to open our hearts to Him and think with Him, meditate on His word with Him. This is not the same as being double-minded, because the scripture is clear, telling us that the double-minded man is unstable in all his ways and will receive nothing from God. If we are meditating on God's law and reasoning with our Heavenly Father in an attitude of prayer and worship, then we will be fixed and firm in our faith Shalom.
@user-ch4ex3yy4l
@user-ch4ex3yy4l Жыл бұрын
The interviewer did not show much respect for Lennox. Kudos to Lennox for putting up with her.
@catherine8326
@catherine8326 3 жыл бұрын
2 Reasons/Sources Moral evil or pain: where men & women are directly responsible Natural evil or pain: suffering as result of natural disasters
@albertpurification985
@albertpurification985 5 жыл бұрын
The true meaning of suffering is not only the disbelieving but also the true believing,belief is hardest thing.what do you believe?and measure it with your scale that can be pointed out.Most of the people wear nice dress but it is not clean and washed .Our Lord has won the universe but people don't love Him,love him 10,15,20or more but not 100 percent that is the only reason of pain and suffering
@JosiahFickinger
@JosiahFickinger 2 жыл бұрын
40:00 This is my biggest argument against Christian Evolution. Sin affected the world, therefore, death before sin is not rational
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, another person who doesn't know how the bible defines sin. ;-)
@JosiahFickinger
@JosiahFickinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@schmetterling4477 You define it, thrn
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosiahFickinger I can't. It's already in the bible, you clearly don't know where, though. That's religious Dunning Kruger. :-)
@lofigeniustm2216
@lofigeniustm2216 3 жыл бұрын
Finally John calls out Derkins for NOT ACTUALLY Being a Real Scientist.
@nmssis
@nmssis 5 жыл бұрын
now, idk who this Ms Avery is but she talks too much and very unreactive to the guest's responses and seem to be drowning in her own thoughts....
@overcamehim
@overcamehim 5 жыл бұрын
She is one of those egoists who enjoys above all else, the sound of their own voice. I fast forwarded through most of what she had to say.
@user-ch4ex3yy4l
@user-ch4ex3yy4l Жыл бұрын
i couldn't agree more.
@JosiahFickinger
@JosiahFickinger 2 жыл бұрын
13:10. Ever since I heard the song, I despised it. It's very ignorant of the fact it associates TRUE CHRISTIANITY with False Christians and other religions.
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