Haha, I feel like that is the same feeling most pathologists have!

I came to this video because of this :') hahhaha

"I didn't have the patience to be a clinician" I felt that 😅 same feeling why I consider now Pathology 😅

Yeah I’m an intern & wanna start a pathology residency because of that. It’s an easy decision for me bc I just knew I hated patient interaction but loved having the knowledge! So to me pathology sounds like the perfect choice.

I see this guy almost every pathology video with the smae comment.. lol

Glad it was helpful! I really want to inspire more medical students to go into pathology

how's it going?

I am thinking to apply pathology residency Is it possible to connect with you ?

I'm so glad!

Glad it was helpful!

Clinical pathology is a good goal to have! Good Luck!

Me too

I’m so jealous, I wish I could go back 10 years and redo my schooling career :’) I’m almost 29 and feel like I don’t have time to switch or follow my dreams

@@HINATA13845its never to late, many people start when they Are over 30!

Thanks!

Thanks!

Unfortunately the path to medicine is stressful and long hours. But, I can suggest debt free ways: 1) There are a few medical schools that offer free tuition (ie. NYU) 2) You can go to the military path, but will need to repay in years of service (HPSP)

go to Europe for med school, entrance is usually easier if you do your research, usually it is much cheaper than the us. you can go to public schools in the UK or Ireland (competitive entrance) , or eastern European and even Italy offer English medical courses. you can also go hardcore , learn a local langauge, and study in Germany or Spain ( I have met expats studying medicine in these countries so yeah nothing is impossible or even difficult). life and studies in Europe are not a piece of cake but I feel have less of a ''RISE AND GRIND'' mentality compared to USA medical schools. also medical school is stressful, BUT ANY UNIVERSITY IS STRESSFUL, I wish someone told me this when I Was young instead of brainwashing me into thinking only type A geniuses go to med school, it is not true, I swear the parrots I studied with (including me) I wish someone told me that...

I'm not sure what you mean by older. If you are 45 and is currently a MS4 applying to residency, you have the same changes as any other MS4. If you completed medical school 10 years ago, and is just applying to residency, then yes it significantly lower your changes.

Maam which branch residency is more hectic pathology or radiology? Also what are your working hours in pathology

@@jack-tm6em I think pathology is more difficult because of its extensive syllabus and advanement of molecular studies... working hour in pathology is reasonable average being 6 hrs...

Hope I can inspire you to persue pathology residency!

I agree with you. Neuropathologist interact closely with the neurosurgeons, to the point, if a neuropathologist is not available, some neurosurgeons will reschedule their procedures

Hi, check out my video on what Pathologists actually do: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obByeNF1ktuXmmQ.html

Reach out to individual programs to see if they would take you on as an observer. Best of luck!

If the day ever comes when AI is advanced enough to analyze complex studies better than a human, EVERYONE is going to be out of a job

I think for AI to recognize dysplastic tissues it has to be trained to understand the normal tissue, but remember each organ has different cells and stroma. Even though they manage they'll still need pathologist to evaluate the results

We're not expecting this soon maybe 200yrs to come

Hi Kai, Residency is always hard, but I think pathology residency is better than most. We have hard rotations (ie. Surgical Pathology), and we have some more relaxing rotations.

There is a decent amount of self study in residency. We are mostly taught practical skills, and we need to read to gain our knowledge base. I talk about some textbooks I liked in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6pgntd1ktLFZWQ.html.

You definitely don’t need CP to do forensic pathology. AP is all you need.

Best of luck to you on the ERAS this year! Link for pathology job posts (but lots of jobs are not posted and are "word of mouth"): www.pathologyoutlines.com/jobs Here is a CAP survey about pathology salary: www.cap.org/member-resources/articles/the-state-of-pathologists-job-market-and-compensation

The majority of pathology jobs are in private or community practice, where it's pure clinical work

Generally those jobs are in private practice or in community hospitals that does not do frozen

Most of the time we make a "to the point" diagnosis, but there will be times when a descriptive diagnosis is required.

That is definitely an interesting background that would make you stand out as an applicant, especially since research of AI in pathology is the new hot thing.

No dumb questions. Residency is a job, but the pay isn't that great because we are technically still in training. For more information, please watch my video on residency salary (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p72BdMJ80rnOmnk.html).

Happy to help!

I am thinking to apply pathology residency Is it possible to connect with you ?

Medical laboratory science in my opinion

Hi! I am so sorry this is happening to you. 14 hour everyday seems long even for a first year resident, and it is completely OK in my opinion to just go home and rest after such long days. It seems a little unreasonable for your supervisors to expect you to spend time reading textbooks when you work those hours. My best recommendation is to talk to your peers and see if others are also working such long hours, and to talk to a more senior resident (maybe your chief resident). They might be able to give you tips on how to be more efficient or give you more insight on what is happening. I'm sorry I can't say much more without knowing more of your situation.

Same here in India

Not necessarily requirement, but it does help on your application for bigger academic centers.

You don't technically need one, but many community/private practices do have a preference for you to have done a fellowship or 2. That way you can offer specialized help for more difficult cases.

It's basically the same process as for us graduates, eras and nrmp, plus ecfmg and both step 1&2.

Hey, did you find any answer for that? I am also considering pathology

My best advise is to do an observership at an place that offers clinical rotation. Pathology in practice is very different than what you are exposed to in 2nd year of med school.

Haha, that is a true statement; however, my goal with this channel is to reach out to more medical students regardless of their stats. I feel like there are probably a decent number of residents who never gave pathology a thought back in medical school just because they didn't know what Pathology really is.

Pathologists get paid better than most primary care specialties (ie. family medicine).

@@Baking_MD Thanks so much for your response. I'm US IMG and interested in pathology graduated in 2015 with 5 papers and 15 abstracts and applying for match 2023. what do you think I should have on my CV and Steps score to match in good pathology program? I appreciate your guidance

It would be harder than an AP/CP program. Most people interested in CP only program are MD/PhDs

@@Baking_MD I don't quite get it why being harder when it only includes Clinical Pathology ( Microbiology, Immunology, Transfusion Medicine, Hemopathology and also in the US genetics and not also the vast Anatomical pathology and Forensics. Do you also mean that in order to apply for CP you must already have a PhD? What about age factor?

It's a subspecialty of Pathology. It is a 1-2 year fellowship after residency.

@@Baking_MD what do you prefer histopathology or hematopathology,?

Sounds like you would be a good applicant

I am thinking to apply pathology residency Is it possible to connect with you ?

Also, I subscribed, so I look forward to hearing more from you!

I'm so glad this video helped you! Just the reason why I started this channel in the first place. I'm actually finishing up residency, and will start my GI fellowship in July.

@@Baking_MD That's awesome! I'm hoping to go into AP Breast/Gyn but probably will apply for AP/CP even though my app is probably better for AP-only track. Are you open to answering questions? I actually found you on Reddit today. You're BakingMD right?

Yups, that's me! Sure, send me a PM.

Hi Magda, there is no such thing as a stupid question. :) I think the closest to that would be to do Medical Microbiology Fellowship and try to focus on virology. I do not believe there is a specific virology fellowship following pathology residency.

@@Baking_MD ok thanks

Reach out to program directors to see if they have an observership program

Did you got observership in pathology ?

It really depends on how big the group is. In a large academic group, I only do 2-3 nights of call a month. The smaller the group, the more days it is.

Sorry, I'm confused.

I believe you will need to an a doctor's degree, but I don't know how foreign countries differ from the US. Sorry that wasn't much help.

@@Baking_MD In our country if we study Bachelor of Biological Sciences for 4 years and after finishing the college we can do master in Some specialties Includes microbiology, including pathology , my question is what the difference between pathology after doing a degree in biology and the patholog after studying medicine?

@@asia5162 sorry, you will have to ask someone who is more familiar with your system

@@Baking_MD Thanks I will do

It depends on the program, as PGY-1, it can be anywhere from $55-70k. There should be a small increase in pay every PGY level gained.

@@Baking_MD thx for the reply. Yeah that does sound good if you ask me

NEVER! Haha, Radiology is dark and sleep inducing, and Pathology is bright and pretty colors. But, the real reason is that I feel like radiology is like taking best guesses.

No, pathologists do not have any in-house overnight calls. We do our overnights calls at home, and most can handled via the phone.

@@Baking_MD this is enough of a reason to become a pathologist lol

@@aluminiumknight4038 I know that’s right

Yes! There is no issue of applying to pathology as a DO, there are actually many people who do. You just need to prove your interest in pathology, like everyone else.

please see my video on this topic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6eUpJanv7-zqmw.html

Pathology lifestyle is definitely great! The pay can be meh, but good enough for me!