well, i mean they resist blackhole like gravity and more turbolaser fire than the executor, DIRECT HITS, also its faster than a tie bcz, reasons, dont forget the panthom a refurbished escape pod , it also takes billions of hits np

I think you got the word “shield” mixed up for “plot armour”,

Ah, bad writing, my old friend!

I can foresee someone bringing up the Falcon and comparing it to the Ghost...

Wolfpack clone Trooper Except it’s not how it happened. 🤦‍♂️

Raul Scarpa “It is not the machine that flies the pilot, it is the pilot that flies the machine” - No Imperial pilot ever

How is a random schmuck better at piloting something than a person who trained for years?

A weapon is only as good as the user

@@CC-tl3zs it wouldn't be a very good show if all the main character s died within the first season

CC 6871 you talking about Hera?? She learned how to fly and left her family for it too.

Rather "oh no! Our shields are ALMOST down" **Ghost taking another 2 hits from the eclipse before retreating to hyperspace**

Bluger Eclipse activates gravity wells*

@@bluger6805 Malevolence: *shoots Ion cannon* Rebels: *didn't felt that*

Hera:"oUr sHiELdS CaN't tAkE MuCh mOrE oF tHIs"

Tis but a scratch

Even better, plot shields !

Ironic that the shields of an executor class could be disabled by a coupleof proton torpedoes waves.

Ikr apparently getting shot 20 times a minute doesn’t destroy your small freighter

On the other hand, the Pelta-class frigate - with shields activated - can only take 8 hits from standard-grade TIE cannons before dying (7:45 and 8:06)

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Siegfried Cosplay even droid knew that

oceansharktyler Never seen anyone in the Star Wars universe other than Vader turn around backwards to shoot while still flying forward. They do it all the time in Battlestar Galactica.

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It’s the spinning trick

hera sindula knows too

Hera's probably blowing tons of character points into the Ghost's damage soak roll.

It may not have shields but it does have thick plot armor.

Well it has the best armor on its hull in the entire universe... Plot Armor. Comes in 5 different colours!

Also, vader doesn’t have your average tie

Plot amor check?

because the rebels have something the Empire doest....plot armor

Hmmmm, maybe Vader didn’t want to destroy the ghost because Ahsoka was on it, maybe watch the show before making bullshit claims like these

@@fletcherk2609 Vader didn't know initially, he only felt her presence when she herself tried to focus on him. In other words, stop it. YOU'RE making bullshit claims.

@@fletcherk2609 stfu

A Pelta-class, despite being slow and minimally armed, should not fall to anti-starfighter cannons that easily. I'm guessing some of the armor and shields were stripped from Phoenix Home and reapplied on the Ghost Edit: after rewatching this episode, it appears as if Phoenix Home's hyperdrive was incapacitated by the damage, although the ship was still able to stay afloat until Sato gave the order to abandon ship and scuttle it. Still, it would take several strafing runs from starfighter cannons to break frigate-grade shields and armor

Except thrawn

Foujiz even thrawn did pretty much nothing

Except Darth Vader and Grand Admiral Thrawn

IKR smh

Thats because the ghost is pretty Damn durable being able to tank black hole gravity and atmospheric reentry

90% Tactics 10% plot armor

60% plot armour 40% tactics

Clone wars sooo good. Rebels is horrible

same with every hero controlled ship

Remember, the story is told by the side that won. Of course the other side was a bunch of incompetent fools with better equipment.

@@MikeBrin96 ya its nothing new

And the vapital ships are all one shots

You just described every ship controlled by a main character in Star Wars, ever.

Admiral konstantine being a stupid mf:

Ignacio Regueiro They diverted all power to shields

FritoSalad Because the blockade runners are bigger than the Ghost so that makes them easier target plus the blockade runners are slower and like what you said about them going at full speed that's also a reason why the Ghost is harder to hit. AND! The Ghost is more maneuverable than the other ships moreover the Ghost is piloted by an advanced pilot. * Mic Drop * 😏

Wrong

It's called plot armor

[InsertJokeHere] uh, I don’t know if you understand what’s the difference from capital and corvettes/frigates are. Corvettes and frigates serve as support ships TO COVER CAPITAL SHIPS aka TAKE DOWN A SHIT TON OF FIGHTERS. So you’re telling me that all the ships had everything in shields even though they know that they are supposed to take out fighters and don’t have that many to counter them AND STILL only put everything into shields. That makes no sense at all and if you look at it again, THEY NEVER FIRE A SINGLE SHOT. I think there is an issue here

Unfortunately it gets used as fuel for more hate on the Empire. Shooting surrendering hostiles.

@@skybot7091 Technically they didn't surrender. They simply stated that, being an unarmed vessel, they had no right to shoot at them. Which is immediately nullified by the "kill on sight" policy of the escort. Had they not had an escort, the cruiser would've more than likely boarded and promptly arrested them, since they were indeed rebels. I'm not here to deny the evilness of the Empire, but you can't just cry when your actions turn out to have consequences.

yeah thats not the rebels holding all the cards, thats a GR75 transport. totally unarmed. The empire has an arquitens light cruiser, which is such a well armed ship that moff gideon uses it as his flagship in the mandalorian. the empire also has TIE interceptors which are defo a match for a wings.

Battle of atollon: am i a joke to you

@@bluethunderbolt9631 But when you’re unarmed, it’s literally a war crime to be killed by your enemy. And the pilot wasn’t talking about the escort, he’s talking about the transport

wait till you watch the Original Trilogy

@@PetersaberHD Luke gets his frigin hand cut off and his face messed up in empire strikes back he also gets shot in return of the jedi along with Leia. Yes there was plot armor but characters still got injured. Besides Kanon who really gets injured in this show?

The Mandalorian would like to know your location.

@@theautomator8372 It seems you haven't actually watched it.

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Obey the Mage isn't the millennium falcon too

Riley Gagnon duh, the millennium falcon is part of the rebels 😑

Riley Gagnon agreed

@@rileygagnon6917 The Millenium Falcon has been in Star Wars so long now, that killing it off could easily destroy the entire franchise

Macin toshiba dude, a die wing could

Macin toshiba AKA the worst starfighter ever created

yeah in real star wars those tie fighters would have destroyed the rebel starfighters .

Vultures were actually pretty damn tough if you think about it, but I get what you mean Every single fighter ever > TIE Fighter

Vulture droids can perform much tighter and dangerous turns, but they lack the creativity of an organic pilot. But I'll admit, a computerized starfighter like the Vulture droid would be much cheaper and you don't have to waste valuable lives out in the field. Now, when I say that a droid fighter like the Vulture lacks creativity, I'm talking about deception (i.e. ambushes and sneak attacks). A computer is going to execute only a certain set of instructions, brutally crunching numbers and variables to achieve its objective in the shortest amount of time possible. Certainly, a computer can predict an enemy's intentions via the process of elimination; however, a computer cannot account and calculate for theoretical probabilities. An organic/living pilot - like us humans - are driven by a combination of logic and emotion; we can solve problems mathematically while also following our instincts at the same time to expect the unpredictable and respond accordingly to the best of our abilities (something a computer can't do). Thus, an organic pilot is going to balance both logic and emotion, wanting to catch the enemy off guard via outsmarting/fooling them. All warfare has deception in it, and while a computer can be able to account that mathematically and logically, it lacks the ability to weigh theoretical probabilities and act upon them. In simple words, a robotic starfighter doesn't perform risks and hunches very well.

Reverse psychology propaganda lol.

Yeah the CIS didn't win alot but they were considered to be a threat because of numbers and they did halt entire invasions

Eh, Thrawn (and to a lesser degree Tarkin) got some major wins here and there

The red flags were in the clone wars how Dave filony nerfs his villains to hell that we see in rebels and the mandalorian besides maybe 3 villains that filony likes (usually his OCs because we know how terrible he treats villains like grievous) he gives them a bit of competence

I always preferred clone wars because the battle were way bigger. Also, it was capital ships vs. other capitol ships. In Rebels, you have small frigates and a discount Milenium Falcon destroying fleets of cutting edge star destroyers. Just makes no sense.

James Thomas clone wars was much better

Clone wars. Because the capital ships are looking much better and there dies characters with a name(and not in almost every battle the republic wins )

Make sense didn't it. Clone wars all out war between two strong armees, and then Galactic civil war a Empire in a asymetric war against a Résistance force.

James Thomas clone wars had less quantity of space fight but the quality was up there, rebel’s just feels really bad

theSpe3d creator the ghost hasn’t died yet because of that thick plot armor

Smells like every heroes in Star Wars

Cowardice that is, I would charge them guns blazing, The ghost was tanking shot from Arquitens's and Pelta's i think full speed charging an ISD would at least them time to escape

oh they take damage, its just the enhanced shields hera installed, they r called plot driveyards, maincharacter mk3 deflector arrays

AREN CORP AREN CORP no its called plot armour

AREN CORP AREN CORP so what ur saying is the ghost has equal shields to a Star Destroyer, and is more agile than a tie fighter? Yeah ok, not true

@@lecapitaine5937 r/woosh you should re-read what AREN CORP AREN CORP said

lol

Alicat I HAVE AN IDEA!

All hands... Brace for impact.

They were outpacing them? Do you understand how accuracy and distance correlate?

What about this show makes you think the Ghost wasn't heavily modified and upgraded?

Considering what we know about Hera and her Love for the Ghost, I think it’s obvious that she has heavily modified to fit her needs, probably even before she met the rest of the crew.

Disney Made ghost invincible while having a escort frigates made out of cardboard. Full of nonsense

Jerrystolk thrawn wasn’t boring?!?

Thrawn wasn’t boring

thrawn wasn't really boring, he was just like 30-40% of his EU counterpart which they did execute pretty well but plot armor :/

That Arquitens-class cruiser didn't even take the explosion in a critical area. Apparantly all you need to do now to take down an Arquitens is to blow up the port prong, which apparently takes down all of the repulsorlifts, engines, and reactors :\

Yeah, is the empire even a threat at this point?

Isaiah Lee This will be usefull in Empire at War. Thank you for this critical information.

@@anxiousearth680 thats what I honestly hated about this show and the new canon. It made the empire a joke.

@@isaiahlee2902 I know this comment is like two years old, but the only justification I could come up for this is when the bomber exploded, the ordinance it was carrying caused that blue explosion and knocked out the cruisers systems, and then it fell to the planet because of gravity. That's sort of what I think happened, as no way was there anything critical in that part of the ship

Same

Yeah

Dave and his references

Yeah I just realized that

Not only the Malevolence, the sound applied to all the warships in the CIS.

Just...please I can’t sustain the fact that the ghost takes more hits than a corvette

I agree. I will send 2 Squads of my new shielded Ties

@@jamie_michelson Throw a few level headed Tie Defender pilots, better to be safe than sorry.

@@jamie_michelson even if you send billions of TIE Defender and Phantom, the ghost would endure and somehow survive

Clone Wars had a similar problem throughout the show too. I like Clone Wars more than Rebels, but let's not pretend like CW handled plot armor any better.

Yeah I know it’s pretty stupid the Tie Defender is only really outdone the X-83 but it’s from legends they called the defender too expensive, but they make two death stars Yeah I know it’s a little bit ridiculous

And to top this all off palatine was also building his secret sith fleet on exegol durning this time.

Darth Vader that’s not a separatist ship That’s a immobiliser cruiser. With gravity well generators

Random Jedi He's referring to the sounds it's making, not the ship itself

Arquitens class are repurposed ships by the Empire from the Clone Wars era so a nice nod

Yeah booooooi!

So don't watch rebels I like both

I agree but I like these space battles better 8D

Yeah boi!

The battle of Ryloth is better then the first one

you would die in seconds... everytime this invicible, unhitible heroeships... that sucks.... it is the same like the prisionscene from episode IV where luke and han take on a whole prisoncomplex without moving on meter and they do not got hit even the fight lasted a few minutes...

Or take a shot everytime star destroyers do not shoot.

Zenta alcoholism and a kids show what a great match

Disney is very pro Rebels.

The ghost has shielding? Freighters can repulse turbolaser fire.

Silver Wolf do you mean Konstantine?

@@thebiggeststarwarsfan6635 yea him ...

It would make more sense if it was the Rebels arming the civilian craft instead of the Empire... cause that's kinda what they do.

And so is rebels

Honestly if I had to explain it I’d say the Empire made their own production run of the Gozanti class made for military purposes, like how I’m pretty sure Humvees have a civilian variant alongside a military variant

17:10 Also that.

Well it because ezra had a vision and planned ahead. Plus thrawns only edge was when he was shooting the people of lothal, and then he lost that edge.

Nah it was awesome

obiously, plot driveyards, maincharacter mk3 deflector screen 01, thats the shield model and manufacturer

Did you notice the volatile Kyber crystal?

General Kampfgurke Yeah... can’t have battles too fast for the little kids to process I guess.... it sad tho. In Star Wars The Clone Wars, even if the inconsistency in the ships was blatant, at least the battles seemed to be in real time. Here, the fights look like they have weak, low powered engines.

TIE Defender: "Nope"

It's absolutely not. And basically . They build a first version with heavier hull, that was already faster than ties. .empire builds tie interceptor . Interceptor rekts any rebel ships in dogfight . Rebels revamp the A wing for it to be a special anti interceptor ship, and that's the version we see in SW 6. . If you remove plot armor every tie fighter design is better than rebel ships. Shields are mainly for swift jumps in hyperspace/ atmosphere entering. Look in star wars II and III how the shielded starfighters as the ARC-170 get absolutely destroyed in seconds. Shields are also for deflecting small debris. But you can survive like 2-6 more shots, which considering the rate of fire of laser cannons and the fact that once you're locked you're pretty much fucked, tie fighters are actually a smart design. No need for shields giving the sheer numbers.

@@revan22 ikr

Did you forget that pilots need to be trained?

Exactly.

the models are based on the original Ralph McQuarrie's concept art for the Original Trilogy

Fighter's good. The pilots however might be rookies.

You can't deny the fact that not all Rebel pilots were skilled Imperial defectors. There are pilots who were just ideals with doubted skills. But hey, compared to the Imperials, the Rebels are more pragmatic to select a pilot. Because they lacked enough manpower.

I think it's an earlier variant of the A-wing if we're going by its appearance

And why is it jumping to hyperspace? It forwent a hyperdrive and most defensive aspects for said speed and agility

I always thought the A-wings in rebels weren't the A-wings we see in ROTJ. Instead I though of them as the R-22 Spearhead, the predecessor of the A-wing, but I think I'm wrong

What makes it even more messed up Is Tie fighters Can Destroy Bigger Ships in 3 Hits! I am convinced they swapped they tie fighters weaponry with the star destroyers, Because The Destroyers don't do squat.