It doesn't work anymore i think

damnit, I'm *always* too late for them..

Prime Minister. We voted for him

@@Zamtrios245 you’re right

@@Zamtrios245aye, that was a fun election!

@@Zamtrios245 That's President Tankthrust to you

Exactly, he only tunes back in and looks up at her *after* she stops shouting. The implication is her yelling and berating him is her norm to the point where he fully tunes her out when she starts ranting, and only when she goes silent does he notice and snap back to attention.

This is exactly how I read it as well. Stolas seems very resigned and numbed out, so as far as what's shown to us within that episode by itself, I get the confusion on how we're meant to read it but also my reaction personally as somebody who was raised in a DV situation was just "this is abuse and it's been happening for so long that nobody is really taking it seriously anymore, it's become normalised"

Yup thats what I thought too. Double true for Octavia. Octavia grew up in a DA household so she wouldnt know what its like to be in a healthy happy family. When you’re young, you dont really realize how much tension there is in a DA family. As you grow up into a teen, you finally realize how messed up everything is but you’ve grown into it so it doesn’t really affect you negatively anymore other than surface level annoyance.

I think that you put it very well it’s also my reading of it as well, and … how to not spoil? the show is getting more clear later on? imo

And they're both in the "just stop paying attention to the screaming person" stage and tuning her out by immersing themselves in their media of choice. As I said in my own comment... you could shoot me while I'm reading, and I'll notice when I put the book down.

Also, connecting to very fatalistic tone of Stola's lullaby, I don't think Stolas is in a very good place mentally but in a different way than Angel. Angel is self-destructive, but he's self-destructive with an underlying idea that "maybe, just maybe, he'll get tired and I'll get out of this alive *somehow".* With Stolas lullaby, I get the feeling it's much more of "no, my life is basically over, my baby girl is the only thing worth staying alive for and even then I'm gonna reassure her she'll be fine without me". And just to clarify, I don't think he's actively suicidal or anything like that when he sings that song, but maybe in that depressed numbness where you think *"if* I would happen to die it wouldn't be such a horrible thing". Idk, the tears in his eyes when he tucks her in gets to me.

That might be the best way to convey the feeling when any of Skyne's channels upload...

real

Personally, he's more uncle, but sure.

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Since the weekend, I've been hitting reload on subscriptions waiting. 5pm: nope, nothing. 7pm: KZfaq: ‘This was posted 10h ago!’ Me: «swipes everything off the table» Hold my damn calls, cancel everything, I've got a season of analysis to watch, starting now.

There is also a seal with her name in the interior at some points!

This is where I like Monster’s Ball because it does flat out say “this is the appetite of Beelzebub” because in Cotton Candy she just calls Herself Queen Bee the entire time

I didn't get it the first time, so much so that I HATED the episode bc I didn't know wtf was going on. Saw it for the 3rd time, OOOOOH I SEE NOW and my opinion did a full 180

They're simply Boy Moxxie and Girl Moxxie

When he says Millie's name he remembers, but since Moxxie/Moxie is such an androgynous name usually used for women he gets confused.

It doesn't help that Millie is the one who has a lot of Moxie in the dictionary meaning: noun 1. The ability to face difficulty with spirit and courage. 2. Aggressive energy; initiative. 3. Skill; know-how.

@@viedal Do you have any idea how little that helps

Loo Loo land, with the Os. Definitely a legally distinct and different place from Lulu World, with the Us.

@@reperfan4 whoops, fingers crossed Lucifer doesn't sue😅

Hazbin Hotel: we have Alex Brightman Helluva Boss: we also have Alex Brightman

no spoilers remember

It is the one time we see Verosika again in season 1 and she's amazing

iirc there's also the fact that the first script of Hazbin was scrapped and they had to re-write it. You can really see them finding their footing and discovering what works and what doesn't in Helluva, I think S2 is a MASSIVE improvement

Yeah. To me, his outfit is honestly a pretty good visual representation of, "My name is Blitzo, the 'O' is silent." It may be a sharp, formal suit that portrays him as a composed person with some sort of authority, but it still carries qualities reminiscent of the past that he's desperate to distance himself from. Even as he actively attempts to cover up who he was, he still has some glaring cracks in his facade that he can't help but keep around and impulsively draw attention to.

Same ngl

Same lmao. I’m out here passing exams and in between them I checked if Skyen uploaded anything hellaverse related. Happy to see he did:)

@@nevermind9835 his style of reaction is so different to others I've seen, it really is refreshing Like even if I disagree with something he says (I think there's stuff about Blitzø's design that says stuff about him, for example) he tends to explain his reasoning from a really knowledgeable artistic viewpoint that makes me pause and consider things I wasn't thinking about prior. You don't get that from most reactors.

@@SaiyanSerenityV yeah, especially the way he analyses animation. It is so helpful to me as someone who currently studies traditional animation

@@nevermind9835 same! I feel like I comment this on all of his videos lol but I just started learning and have been putting these on in the bg while I practice, it's been a BIG help in how I approach boarding something

Yeah. It's an example of when the show take things that at first was shown of as jokes (Stolas being thirsty all the time and his condescending tone towards Blitz, their deal etc) and then *bam* in s1e7 this kind of behaviour suddenly have consequences when Stolas wants to take it one step further and Blitz point out to him that he can't just suddenly act all lovely dovey when his behaviour up to that point only ever seems to have been purely sexual. I think it's interesting. But sadly, a lot of the fandom doesn't understand it and gets angry at Blitz for not understanding that Stolas loves him. Because they never took stolas behaviour before that as anything other than a joke, so why would Blitz feel like he is only played with?

Please attend to your studies, they are more important than my cartoon opinions :)

@@3BSkyen more important but a lot less fun 😔

Wait really? What would that be? I know we don’t want to spoil anything here, but could I get a bit more of a hint to what that one episode would be? I’ve watched all of the Helluva content up to now and I’m not 100% sure what you’re describing.

@@thunderbird0134 the non fizz flashback episode

@@viedal I agree that it obviously wasn't planned from the start, but it's not a hard retcon. They add information that they didn't originally plan for, but it doesn't actively contradict earlier episodes. Hard retcon, at least as I understand it, is like when movies or shows ignore that the popular character has already died at least once and bring them back, or when comic book writers and fans silently but collectively agree to forget that an unpopular story arc happened, or when Dallas decided an entire season was just a dream one of the characters had.

how is that a retcon if it doesn't contradict anything? this fandom gets super weird at times ignoring canon in favor of fan theories.

​@@KaterynaM_UA I can give some examples of retcons in season 2. You can also have a retcon and it not contradict canon, like Adventure Time! Jake was definitely not planned to be a blue alien who appeared out of a man's head as an egg, but it's a welcome retcon that the series plays with later. Stolas in season 1 very much treats Blitzo as his plaything, pushing Blitzo's boundaries and consistently being sexual at any given opportunity, even when told directly not to by Blitzo. It's shown in the pilot, in episode 2 and episode 5 to make Blitzo uncomfortable. In season 2, they try to pretend as if the rift between the two of them is squarely on Blitzo's 'I push away the ones I love' shoulders by showing us the texts in episode 5 and by having Blitzo talk about Stolas asking about his day in episode 6, but they never actually show Stolas being anything but a s*x fiend on screen despite devoting a *lot* of screentime to the both of them and having many opportunities to do so in season 1 alone, really. We know for a fact because it has been said that Stolas was originally planned to be a villain, this is a retcon that has been addressed by the writers, and it shows in the way they write season 2 and how different pilot Stolas is from show Stolas. I have two other examples I could give, but it should be known that these retcons do in fact exist. Whether you see them as good or bad will entirely depend on your own mileage.

Unhappy Campers is the worst episode of Season 2 so far.

Can’t wait for him to see: [⚠️BEWARE OF SPOILERS BELOW⚠️] S2-E4 when it cuts back and forth from the climactic and dangerous fight with Striker, to silly cartoon battle about giving Loona a rabies shot

@@ADuckWithAKZfaqAccount Still a personal fave of mine, the song is a jam

@@TheSpookychick but it is a Millie episode

@@MattStMarie-bm5sq I mean…it BARELY qualifies

I LOL’d because it was so unexpected

Just be careful. Watch him too long and you'll find yourself caring about League of Legends lore.

I am patient zero for a lot of that yeah, and I will not see Heaven.

​@@3BSkyenif heaven is as depicted in HH, the angels can keep it.

SAME

It's funny how folks talk about her being bland, but like... she's a southern farmgirl who can casually rip her way through an army of goons, who clearly takes after her dad, who will destroy anyone and anything that threatens her tiny theatre-loving husband. She's great. In literally any other context, she'd stand out. It's only because everyone else are over-the-top trauma balls, in a a show where the a-plot is entirely about rubbing people's traumas into each other...

​@@Daemonworks well no, she wouldn't stand out, her entire character sums up as: "very strong and a wife", in what actual narrative would someone like this stand out? Everyone else has actual depth in their decisions and how they became who they are, she is just...nothing, her whole character traits are represented either by Moxxie (a better written character) or by pure strength (which is useless with no actual conflict on it, it's just eye candy and gag). You didn't need to show publicly that you can't distinguish good writing from bad.....

​@@jasmineelhilali9152 Quite the reality disconnect there. I meant precisely what I said, not what you seem to think I meant. She's an occasionally literally feral mass-murderer who's actually very well adjusted and comfortable with her place in life, and is very much in love with her smaller weaker husband in a relationship that doens't really do any of the power dynamic stuff most writers would work into that. Sure, there's worlds where that combination of traits wouldn't seem weird, but a heck of a lot more where it'd raise some eyebrows. But hey ho, let's do some actual character and narrative analysis here. I would argue that "strong" and "a wife" aren't all she is. She's a farm girl in the big city, she's one of the few basically happy and well adjusted people in hell, she loves loolooland and the harvest festival, really wants to be part of the big competition but was banned for killing too many folks (or at least, being too obvious about it). We've got insight into her family relationships, including some sore spots. She's curious what pop star sex was like. She texts Blitzo for his opinion on sex toys to use with Moxxie. She thinks nothing of smacking a Sin's partner, in his own place. Plus some S2 stuff I won't go into because Skyen hasn't gotten there yet. Sure, these aren't all terribly load-bearing. Often in passing, not plot relevant (not that this is actually bad, but some folks are plot-obsessed), etc. And she's absolutely been mostly used just a fun character. The real core of her as a character, if I were to boil her down to one simple point, very specifically in the context of a show that's mostly about dysfunctional people struggling to find happiness is this: she's already happy. The real problem, for folks who want her to be more than just fun, is that they haven't seemed to know what to do with that. So far as we know, she's pretty damned content. She's got a husband she loves to bits, a job she likes, she's fond of her co-workers and has little to prove, no chips on her shoulders and isn't seeking goals like status or fame.. She gets along fairly well with most folks. She has a fair bit of personality, just mostly not the "driving force" variety. The big things she would strive for, that she desperately hungered for, that she would kill (ok, low bar there) or die to get? She's already got 'em. In a story that's very focused on characters driven by desperate unfulfilled needs and gaping emotional wounds, she's fine. She doesn't think her life is perfect, but she's comfortable with that - her feet are on the ground her shit is sorted. This, in a show that is primarily about internal and social conflict between raging dumpster fire hot mess characters. Her only skin in that game is that some of those hot messes are friends and family. They know what to do with characters motivated by pain and need, but they made somebody who's default state is "nah, i'm good" and when it came time to do something with her that ties into their main drama, they go "huh, wut do?". To be fair, a static, happy character is something you can absolutely do great things with, but it's a weirder fit into this sort of thing, and nothing like writing a character who's got burning desires and massive flaws glaring holes at you saying "use me for drama, ALL THE DRAMA". And that's sorta their main deal. She's absolutely been underwritten, but it looks like they're slowly figuring out what to do with her, so fingers crossed. And, she /is/ a fun character. They just need to find more for her to do.

I totally agree, I also think he dresses like that because he wants to be taken more seriously than he's used to. He takes pride in running his own business and he wants to dress accordingly.

Was going to comment about this too and you put it into much better words than I could have 😄

be both

he did that in his reaction to the episode

the US literally had a puritan extrimist sect move in early in history and they really took root. The sect was so extreme they were kicked out of *england* for being too puritan anmd then the dutch also yeeted them out of their country cause they just wouldnt stop pushing their beliefs onto others and the dutch just went "okay it's cool and all believe what ya want but maybe dont bother others with it to the point of harrasment, so ehm just go away please" so the puritans left for the colonies to build their own new "better" society there

Why is episode 2 your favourite? Genuine question. I like it but it's not my personal favourite, but if there was something I miss that would absolutely blow me away I'd be keen to know :D

@@Moxie2017 Spoiler Warning for Skyen I'm not sure why but for some reason Father-Daughter dynamics tend to get to me very deeply. That scene between Loona and Octavia where Loona just drops the facade and speaks what she really feels about Blitzø and the way Octavia immediately understands how hard it all is for Stolas and matures a little is really special to me. Loo Loo Land had a bit of that but Seeing Stars really went deep with it and it stuck with me. Other than that Oops and the topic of forgiveness between old friends is also really powerful but episode 2 still takes the cake

You can be an official tier list maker?

@@Jan_Iedema Nah, it’s just a joke about a joke Skyen made the last time, but did not repeat this time around =)

why wait until then

@@MattStMarie-bm5sq Because that's when it canonically takes place.

Yeah! Moxxie was the opener for the night!

also to the trailers maybe

Right like. i was excited for him to get to s2 so he could analyze the stolitz but w the latest episode i DESPERATELY crave his reactions bc im going fucking insane

We should give him some time! He said at the end of the video that he was gonna give priority to his other channels, plus, its WAAAAY more better analyzing and reacting to the episodes for fun rather than obligation, we do not need to pressure skyen into making these videos if we really want em'.

Eviscerated! and yeah bro was Going Thru It