Red Cliff - War Sequence

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Aelon7

Aelon7

15 жыл бұрын

This is one of the two battles in the movie Red Cliff.
There are some dialogues subtitled in french, but you don't need to understand french to enjoy this battle.
/!\ Warning, this is a spoiler if you haven't see the movie /!\
Cao Cao sent warriors to fight Zhou Yu and Zhuge Liang's troops... But this was an ambush, and the Cao Cao's warriors won't appreciate the strategy of Zhuge Liang.
Enjoy ;)

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@mechanixis
@mechanixis 12 жыл бұрын
A brilliant strategy, provided that you have five times as many men as your opponent, an infinite supply of huge metal shields, all of your soldiers are perfectly coordinated, and the enemy commander is a complete idiot.
@LeninovaPles
@LeninovaPles 2 жыл бұрын
I would put it even more harshly :D it's total BS. The amount of practice that your soldiers must do before mastering this would be tremendous, and tactical flexibility ... But all chinese kung-fu flicks are fantasy and fairy-tales. For this reason I find them really boring.
@derth9230
@derth9230 2 жыл бұрын
IKR THE COMMANDER WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE BUMBLING IDIOT TO NOT JUST CHARGE THE SHIELDS AND PUT PRESSURE ON THEM SO THEY FALL OVER
@AndromedaPrima
@AndromedaPrima 2 жыл бұрын
I came here solely just for a rant. Yes, i dont understand why the enemy armies politely and willingly entered the formation through the gap instead of just charging through the wall. I mean they are riding a literal horses and the shield wasnt even as high that could prevent horses from jumping over it. What made me more furious is that the enemy just taking a walk in the park after entering the formation. I mean why dodnt they even tried to fight the enemy which literally didnt do anything as well
@tonyluong6732
@tonyluong6732 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndromedaPrima I was about to say the same which dumbass would willingly enter a formation where at any moment you can be surrounded on all sides... idk how strong your metal shield is throw 100 horses at it and it'll break or the man behind will
@waitingisfun
@waitingisfun 2 жыл бұрын
The realistic strategy would be the one used at waterloo. Wellington's army used box formation with bayonets sticking out. Marshal Ney's cavalery could only circle the formation while being shot at.
@Chantzehao
@Chantzehao 13 жыл бұрын
"They've left openings in their ranks, and their formations seem very inviting and open for us. They also don't seem to be attacking us while we ride past, this couldn't possibly go wrong, everyone advance into the circular maze and disperse, don't attack or that may upset them. Wander aimlessly until everyone is in, then wait. The game is afoot."
@jordanwebb1543
@jordanwebb1543 3 жыл бұрын
Random grunt: GENIUS
@aguyfromnowhere3511
@aguyfromnowhere3511 2 жыл бұрын
*Gets slaughtered by random ass peasents with metal hoes*
@Briguy1027
@Briguy1027 2 жыл бұрын
They were mesmerized by Takeshi Kaneshiro's masterful plan.
@knutderklein9994
@knutderklein9994 Жыл бұрын
It is just a movie, and I agree it's shit compared to the famous series preceding this crap. Apart from the costumes, anything else is shit
@Cookiesdiefrombehind
@Cookiesdiefrombehind 10 жыл бұрын
This battle is so different in the novel. The formation was supposed to be in a forest, as I recall and visibility was very low. Also, it was on a much larger scale so the enemy could not actually spot the formation. Whenever the charging cavalry wanted to exit the forest there would be pikes and shields guarding the exit. This was because the troops were all hidden within the trees and the lookouts would signal them with drums and flags.
@drafezard7315
@drafezard7315 9 жыл бұрын
When you say "novel" are you referring to RoTK because if your are then all I can say at this time is that both are based on the historical events of the same period, however neither is based off of the other and are both maybe %50 accurate in their own rights.
@Cookiesdiefrombehind
@Cookiesdiefrombehind 9 жыл бұрын
Drafe zard is there another novel then? There is a history book by Sima Qian, but that ain't a novel
@drafezard7315
@drafezard7315 9 жыл бұрын
Alexander Salt Not that I know of, I just didn't want to asume in case there is.
@calvinblue894
@calvinblue894 9 жыл бұрын
It's hard to film in a forest.. spare the film crew, please..
@Cookiesdiefrombehind
@Cookiesdiefrombehind 9 жыл бұрын
***** Didn't I argue with you once before?
@displayname2149
@displayname2149 10 жыл бұрын
"Guan Yu has KO'd over 50 Wei troops" "You're an inspiration to us all, brother" - Liu Bei.
@alejovalentinpellizzer3820
@alejovalentinpellizzer3820 5 жыл бұрын
👏🐴
@r6jbhifi168
@r6jbhifi168 5 жыл бұрын
GuanYu‘ KD is good
@michaelgirvan5892
@michaelgirvan5892 5 жыл бұрын
That's defo dynasty warriors quoting.
@lesterchin9184
@lesterchin9184 4 жыл бұрын
All fun and games till.....LU BU has arrived to the battle :)
@jman7481
@jman7481 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why liu bei and his tactician were my favorite
@jake55778
@jake55778 11 жыл бұрын
4:57 I like how they seem to have had a specific drum signal prepared ahead of time for "Unleash the Guan Yu"
@anguslmx23
@anguslmx23 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more of a" get some of the commanders outside the "walls" and kill some of the enemy while risking their lives that could be more useful inside the "wall", especially the unarmed zhang fei." signal
@edwinmoy1402
@edwinmoy1402 10 ай бұрын
@@anguslmx23 in those times, most troops only had the most basic martial training with little experience while generals and other higher commanders usually are much much better trained. So it is entirely plausible for Guan Yu to take on groups of these enemies solo even though tactically it is insane lol
@Seele2015au
@Seele2015au 3 жыл бұрын
Historical figures in order of appearance: 1:20 Zhou Yu 1:50 Zhuge Liang (right) 5:01 Guan Yu 6:14 Zhao Yun 6:49 Zhang Fei 8:35 Lady Sun
@aigabuskira165
@aigabuskira165 2 жыл бұрын
1:46 Huang Gai (left red cloak) 3:59 Gan Ning
@Magnezone962
@Magnezone962 Жыл бұрын
And Lady Sun did nothing but sat on her horse and watched XD
@obitoxshinobi8978
@obitoxshinobi8978 7 ай бұрын
that's ZhouYu? ZhouYu is soppose to be handsome man dude ugly 😂
@beanybean5695
@beanybean5695 3 жыл бұрын
i like how the people on the shields just watching like “oh damn they really fighting”
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 3 жыл бұрын
My job is to hold my formation not to help you stabbing. 😄
@millerevans2264
@millerevans2264 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha nimenmeiguorenshuohuadouzhemexiangxiaopihaierma¿
@stellarkin1232
@stellarkin1232 6 ай бұрын
the zhang fei roar has been ingrained in my memory since i saw this movie as a child, i love it
@otakusized07
@otakusized07 13 жыл бұрын
I love the ending. Soldier: "Where did everyone go?"
@BrandydocMeriabuck
@BrandydocMeriabuck 3 жыл бұрын
Troops: Commander, what should we do. Should we charge our cavalry into the 1 man deep enemy lines and break their flimsy formations or should we charge every man we’ve got into the gaps they obviously created to trap us? Commander: Check dis out *everyone dies*
@user-ge8dn8sc4n
@user-ge8dn8sc4n 3 жыл бұрын
If you are not standing at the commanding height, you can't see how the people on the opposite side organize the formation! The best thing is to beat the drummer and the flag conductor first! Let the opponent can not change the formation!
@mats8326
@mats8326 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ge8dn8sc4n the battlefield is not always flat
@toxicalyss
@toxicalyss 2 жыл бұрын
I think I will just go back to my Total War games and make the right tactical moves...
@thecreator4296
@thecreator4296 2 жыл бұрын
You can still see circles and holes in someone’s line if you have depth perception.
@simonphoenix3789
@simonphoenix3789 10 ай бұрын
plus they are on horses and would be able to tell that the formation isn't that deep.
@dbrzy8989
@dbrzy8989 9 ай бұрын
everyone saying this is unrealistic, its part of the romance of the three kingdom, so its supposed to be exaggerated or else it wouldnt be interesting on the big screen. Imagine 300, the spartans didnt even get their arms pierced from the rain of arrow a million arrows. Now that's unrealistic too but captures your attention.
@zinanmo
@zinanmo 11 жыл бұрын
Zhuge Liang called this formation outdated but he found a good use to it by creating a sand storm and restricting enemy's vision which leaded enemy to fall into trap. Also when they find a breach in enemy formation, they must enter or they are bound to eat arrows
@aknaga1391
@aknaga1391 3 жыл бұрын
I think both sides rehearsed their parts very well... Such good coordination.
@augustuscaesar8020
@augustuscaesar8020 8 жыл бұрын
9:42 The most funniest scene I've seen in Chinese War Movies ^.^
@novikovPrinciple
@novikovPrinciple 8 жыл бұрын
+Augustus Caesar How many takes must that last shot have taken, though?
@Renkencen
@Renkencen 8 жыл бұрын
That last guy should of paid more attention to his surrounding or at least get off the horse!
@augustuscaesar8020
@augustuscaesar8020 8 жыл бұрын
+Ren “Ken” Cen He panicked
@alejandrorabang5083
@alejandrorabang5083 7 жыл бұрын
9:46 it was this moment jackson knew he fcked up xD
@amp8295
@amp8295 5 жыл бұрын
He was like "wait wtf? I'm the only one left?"
@Fablopicassoii
@Fablopicassoii 6 жыл бұрын
Three kingdoms total war anyone?
@chowing08231
@chowing08231 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard of romance of three kingdom ? Like twenty something years ago....
@q8tenchi
@q8tenchi 4 жыл бұрын
I am waiting to get a custom gaming PC. Forget Mac
@generichomosapien4666
@generichomosapien4666 4 жыл бұрын
Fak u NOOB
@hawaiianperson85
@hawaiianperson85 4 жыл бұрын
Prison school and the book for me
@aginggergown6303
@aginggergown6303 4 жыл бұрын
Dynasty Warriors for me
@Serkanbah
@Serkanbah 7 жыл бұрын
look there is huge defensive lines with archers and lancers lets go inside and die.
@joelim5010
@joelim5010 7 жыл бұрын
Serkanbah cant u see the heavy sand storm when they're riding? They chased a group of skirmishers and led into an ambush.
@Serkanbah
@Serkanbah 7 жыл бұрын
ambush? thousands of soldiers waiting with shields pikes commanders behind on a platform and you call that ambush?
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 4 жыл бұрын
@@Serkanbah they couldn't return back to their commanding officer whose bringing up the main force and if they showed cowardice on the battlefield they would be shamed. Also they weren't expecting this kind of formation to be used since as u can see there was alot of openings for the cavalry and inf. to charge in, also so many troops and tower shields. They couldn't go anywhere so they had to make a choice to run all the way back to the main force or attack.
@aresu.8480
@aresu.8480 4 жыл бұрын
Still freaking unrealistic By seeing the number of turtle formationd bois, they already have double or triple numbers of army than attackers If sandstorm happens, nobody gonna do such undesperately dumbfucked charge into that unless they are japan banzai kiddos.
@robert23456789
@robert23456789 4 жыл бұрын
this may sound dumb but the best way to break that plan is to ram in to the wall's break the shell of the turtle and it falls apart in a panic ... what its a much better idea then running in side to a clear fuck you trap
@albusfr
@albusfr 12 жыл бұрын
Zhang Fei's weaponless charge at 6:50 gets me laughing every time
@xuhema7576
@xuhema7576 5 жыл бұрын
Team mates: rally for a teamfight Me: coming When I arrive: 9:42
@simonphoenix3789
@simonphoenix3789 10 ай бұрын
its nice that the cavalrymen are so polite and simply ride around rather than attacking the men with the giant shields and no weapon in hand.
@InuYashaboy1992
@InuYashaboy1992 12 жыл бұрын
Due to the way Zhang Fei charged at the soldiers, he would be the strongest football player ever XD.
@pavelivanov2999
@pavelivanov2999 3 жыл бұрын
I gather you are not talking about the game football that is mostly played with feet, but about another one, because it would not make much sense.
@Arbron
@Arbron 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavelivanov2999 Maybe American Football? I don't know much on the topic, just guessing. At any rate, Zhang Fei is a boss.
@shofn5098
@shofn5098 3 жыл бұрын
The heroes: Slaughtering groups of people at a time Those soldiers who decided to 1v1 them be like: *"Ima pretend I didn't see that"*
@zinanmo
@zinanmo 11 жыл бұрын
you should watch the full movie.Zhuge Liang called this formation outdated but he found a good use to it by creating a sand storm and restricting enemy's vision which leaded enemy to fall into trap. Also when they find a breach in enemy formation, they must enter or they are bound to eat arrows
@antonc108
@antonc108 8 жыл бұрын
The scale of Chinese battles were often much larger than other cultures, life was cheap and a 10000 men is considered a small force but that is actually 2 full Roman legions in comparison to western counterparts. So that formation may span a huge distance and not easily seen by the enemy commanders. Also it is not easy to flank the army because of the distance, visibility, and the circular shape of the formation. A well trained force with good commanders and tacticians employing battle formations makes big differences, and during the warring years, all men were born soldiers. Its not an uncommon thing to have battle formations, happens all over the world. Just a few of these are more exaggerated.
@ExterminLord
@ExterminLord 8 жыл бұрын
+antonc108 "not easily seen" its a giant formation of troops....
@stellarkin1232
@stellarkin1232 8 жыл бұрын
+Ex Angel he's referring to the scale of a force, you try looking at 1000 people. it just looks like a about 300 from your angle, and as a commander, knowing the scale of the enemy force is essential to victory, you can't keep track of that many enemy soldiers so defeat is certain
@treekid7455
@treekid7455 6 жыл бұрын
ChrispyAngel you go outside and starting counting number of people in the street
@bennysusanto5524
@bennysusanto5524 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, Cao Cao has the largest army and it was only around 800000 soldiers so 10000 men was considered pretty good army too. Liu Bei only had around less than 1000 soldiers following him around the beginning of the era.
@Robin...222
@Robin...222 5 жыл бұрын
This shit wasnt possible dont over glorify some chinese peasants. Cus you have read a romance book. The novel and these movies/series are very unhistorical maybe 30% is true
@ashina2146
@ashina2146 5 жыл бұрын
Spear Guard is OP in this build
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 4 жыл бұрын
Lol too bad three kingdoms game is unable to make this kind of formation happen
@NangongReng1973
@NangongReng1973 11 жыл бұрын
Great!You explained it very well. These are just movies.The aim of every war movie(if the producer have money) is to make as much spectacular special effect or great battle scenes in order to attract more audiences. Btw, i have read from the novel that Zhuge Liang had invented a kind of self movable oxen-horse like cart to transport supplies, but I do not know whether this is true or not.
@gwinbeer
@gwinbeer 4 жыл бұрын
8:25 He is just flexing at this point
@nickkraw1
@nickkraw1 12 жыл бұрын
You're completely right. Those guys could never all have tackled him at once, he's just too good a fighter. This very credible source has shown me that one man can be more than a match for thousands.
@ihavesauce3439
@ihavesauce3439 3 жыл бұрын
Its been 11yrs and its still the best😎
@SergiuHellDragoonHQ
@SergiuHellDragoonHQ 11 жыл бұрын
6:50 Chewbacca unleashed :))
@olidingin6398
@olidingin6398 3 жыл бұрын
[20] Sebuah senyawa non volatil Z, digunakan untuk membuat dua larutan yang berbeda. Larutan A mengandung 5 g senyawa Z yang dilarutkan dalam 100 g air. Sedangkan larutan B mengandung 2,31 g senyawa Z yang dilarutkan dalam 100 g benzen. Larutan A mempunyai tekanan uap 754,5 mmHg pada titik didih air normal dan larutan B mempunyai tekanan uap yang sama pada titik didih normal benzen. Hitunglah massa molar dari senyawa Z pada larutan A dan B!
@olidingin6398
@olidingin6398 3 жыл бұрын
@Hupiukko Lol
@haraldisdead
@haraldisdead 3 жыл бұрын
Lol he literally breaks a spear in half by punching it 😆😆
@pabloemilioescobargaviria1874
@pabloemilioescobargaviria1874 3 жыл бұрын
06:50
@nickkraw1
@nickkraw1 12 жыл бұрын
this is some of the most ridiculous fighting I've ever seen
@ezekielvonlichenstein3476
@ezekielvonlichenstein3476 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah well wait until you hear of lubu
@LG-vv9jn
@LG-vv9jn 3 жыл бұрын
yeah just like 300 spartans lol
@diackoakafrankie3151
@diackoakafrankie3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@LG-vv9jn thermopile war was a landslide win for persians. Truth hurts
@diackoakafrankie3151
@diackoakafrankie3151 2 жыл бұрын
@Amelia Chua truth is, he didnt had 300 men but it was 6000, there were still people supporting him and let me tell you something. Achaemanids also didnt had 1million troops. Just imagine how much of the earth population is that.
@PantsuGirl
@PantsuGirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@diackoakafrankie3151 Depending on the source it is estimated that the world's population at the time was around 100-200+ million people and about 2.5-3.5 lived of it lived in Greece and Anatolia.
@jamesporquez3682
@jamesporquez3682 11 ай бұрын
The ending lol Soldier: where y'all at homies.
@zephyrerazortail5478
@zephyrerazortail5478 5 жыл бұрын
I love that in movies like this, Authority Equals Asskicking is in full effect.
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 3 жыл бұрын
The whole stratagem was set up solely for the top officers to grind xp. Rank and file soldiers are not allowed to leech either.
@tossuy428
@tossuy428 4 жыл бұрын
張飛の化け物ぶりを見た後のチョウ雲が普通の武将にみえた……(笑)
@pavelivanov2999
@pavelivanov2999 3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree.
@123eldest
@123eldest 11 жыл бұрын
Because it did everything it was supposed to do. Some of the scenes can be a bit awkward but it represents the short period and great battle portrayed in the ROTK really well.
@ultraesgrima
@ultraesgrima 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thanks for all your arguments.
@mikeoxmaul45
@mikeoxmaul45 4 жыл бұрын
When you get all the generals in Romance mode and just wreck the enemy
@Aelon7
@Aelon7 14 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's true. I was also surprised that we can see a lot of Shu & Wu generals, but very few Wei generals... Maybe they will appear in the next movie... ? Still, it's strange because there were a lot of Wei generals in the Red Cliff's battle : Cao Pi, Dian Wei.... (btw Dian Wei is the most important Wei general, after Cao Cao, even more than Cao's son Cao Pi at that time)
@X.Y.Z.07
@X.Y.Z.07 3 жыл бұрын
Its waaayy to late. But the son that Cao Cao mentioned after loosing him and Dian Wei was Cao Ang. The first heir apparent.. Cao Cao mentioned that he grieved the lost of his most trusted general and bodyguard more than the lost of his first son.. That's shows how much respect he have on his subordinates.. As he also said, "I never employed the questionable, and never questions the employed."
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, the Guan Yu and Zhang Fei parts totally saved this video for me 😂
@xSimonSteelex
@xSimonSteelex 12 жыл бұрын
At 7:20, Zhou Yu: "Zhang Fei is really awesome at hand combat..." Zhuge Liang : "You ain't seen nothing yet. He's only warming up"
@GhostKryst
@GhostKryst 12 жыл бұрын
I don't care if this was supposed to be realistic or not, this was totally awesome.
@picvajzpikcers
@picvajzpikcers 7 жыл бұрын
5:01 Welcome to the rice fields, motherfuckers.
@cevitan
@cevitan 12 жыл бұрын
This movie is a based on a famous novel, not history. So the scene is based on the description of that battle in the novel.
@AtomicDudez
@AtomicDudez 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this strategy is genius!!!
@chissoku69
@chissoku69 9 жыл бұрын
5:30 hahahahahah this is like here i give u this and u give me this .. here i give u this and u give me this .... and the same shit is going the whole day
@extomvp
@extomvp 3 жыл бұрын
Hes doing business with hes enemies but hes get the luck
@puppetactor2515
@puppetactor2515 6 жыл бұрын
I like how people are complaining fiction to be fictional
@jelle7937
@jelle7937 8 жыл бұрын
bloody... and really very strategic!!
@kaptenhiu5623
@kaptenhiu5623 Жыл бұрын
I can guarantee that Chinese army don't fight like this during the three kingdoms era or any era for that matter. They will send archers and artillery units first to that formation to soften them up. Followed by infantry charge. After the enemy is engaged, the cavalry will surround the outermost circle and do not going in. They will make sure nobody escape alive when the formation broke.
@victorrubahimbya1124
@victorrubahimbya1124 3 жыл бұрын
That ending scene was so funny 😂😂😂
@henry7696
@henry7696 5 жыл бұрын
i love how the cavalry are just casually trotting around inside the formation. its as if it was all some display or something...
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 4 жыл бұрын
Well they couldn't stop moving or they'll get stabbed by spears and considering how they didn't know how large the enemy force was in a formation like this.
@jamesdaniels8007
@jamesdaniels8007 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea who I'm supposed to root for, I'm just enjoying the complete absurdity of the action.
@ardi.wibowo
@ardi.wibowo 5 жыл бұрын
what makes a movie unrealistic is, presenting things that could go wrong in so many ways, but then executed perfectly.
@user-ng5nd8rr4e
@user-ng5nd8rr4e 5 жыл бұрын
懐かしいな。確か金曜ロードショウでやってた時めちゃくちゃお腹痛かったんだよな
@kim_jon_won
@kim_jon_won 4 жыл бұрын
お前は死門に入ったんだな
@ryoga5884
@ryoga5884 3 жыл бұрын
関羽と趙雲がカッコよすぎる
@frankjamieson9790
@frankjamieson9790 2 жыл бұрын
Now that was a battle scene
@AVP3SCWLHSLV
@AVP3SCWLHSLV 10 жыл бұрын
they scatter thus further solidifies that they were confused from the initial archer bombardment and dust cover. Forgot to note that behind the main formation being used is that the main force is behind it (Indicated that the command center wouldn't be in the middle of that formation). SO whomever goes around gets picked off. Thus reason why formation works is the initial confusion and chaos caused, once inside everyone is scattered thus command structure is lost causing more confusion.
@Wyzzkyd
@Wyzzkyd 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Guan Yu's fight makes sense. He throws his crescent blade like a spear to take out the poor dude first because it's a close proximity fight against numbers, blade swinging would not be as effective as spearing.
@simplydotjc
@simplydotjc 12 жыл бұрын
"It's A TRAP!"
@Ichigokurosaki24140
@Ichigokurosaki24140 6 жыл бұрын
This is best war scene ever.
@james501001
@james501001 9 жыл бұрын
the sheer OPness of these guys is ridiculous
@nevergiveup621
@nevergiveup621 9 жыл бұрын
total war: red cliff...!
@davidliaotn
@davidliaotn 9 жыл бұрын
D jake think there was a three kingdom mod for rome total war
@zeephy7195
@zeephy7195 6 жыл бұрын
Give this guy an award you just predicted the future bro
@samyddf
@samyddf 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, there is total war about the three kingdom...
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! the ancient armies of the warring states of China used some really interesting tactics
@HarshSingh-iu3xs
@HarshSingh-iu3xs 7 жыл бұрын
Bullet-Tooth Tony the formation is called chakravyuh and it was used in ancient india. the epic "Mahabharata" mentions it. google up.
@HarshSingh-iu3xs
@HarshSingh-iu3xs 7 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padmavyuha
@shinsenshogun900
@shinsenshogun900 5 жыл бұрын
The movie here is based after the first Chinese empire was declared like more than 390 years bro, and the defending ambushers still use formations favored by Sun Tzu of Wu
@hahnsolo1589
@hahnsolo1589 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinsenshogun900 sorry by the brilliant zhuge liang who perfected it and sun tzu wasnt a part of the wu dynasty it was zhuge jin of wu
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 4 жыл бұрын
Atleast they tried. Decent enough for a war movie, doesn't matter on realism, atleast I can enjoy movies that shows some formations and such action stuff.
@johnguo368
@johnguo368 4 жыл бұрын
Total war three kingdom got most of its elements from this movie. From unit design and background music, it has a lot of red cliff reference.
@rianda1181
@rianda1181 4 жыл бұрын
Yuhangism Guo especially cao cao
@themaninthetube1
@themaninthetube1 10 жыл бұрын
I like how it violates the laws of Physics.
@lamkit1028
@lamkit1028 10 жыл бұрын
then make videos studying all the movies of the world about how their physics, defy law of physics
@MNGN101
@MNGN101 10 жыл бұрын
Like every other movie?
@GooglyEyedJoe
@GooglyEyedJoe 9 жыл бұрын
I like how you think this is supposed to be accurate.
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 4 жыл бұрын
:/ the matrix? John wick? All other Hollywood movies? Comparing those with this? China had to atleast work with what they got and making it realistic? They never admit to making these war movies realistic as they only want the action, formations, and meaning and events that possibly happened a long time ago.
@Velkan1396
@Velkan1396 4 жыл бұрын
@@koreancowboy42 how is John Wick the same kind of movie as Matrix?
@Keynesian_economics
@Keynesian_economics 5 жыл бұрын
体当たりで槍へし折るおっさん最高
@ZuilzonDTD
@ZuilzonDTD 12 жыл бұрын
If you had smaller shields, and remember not everyone had one. It was more common to have a spear opposed to a sword and shield because a spear was cheaper. These tower shields are cheap to make though because of the fact that there is little shaping that needs to be done, it's just a block of metal. All that aside you still have no idea what's waiting for you, and that is granted you can knock the guy back. They tended to force these shields into the ground to make them harder to knock down.
@guatahala
@guatahala 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'll check that guy out.
@user-cx1ou9ej9v
@user-cx1ou9ej9v 3 жыл бұрын
これ中々エグい作戦よな。 敵が可哀想なぐらい残酷な作戦やわ。
@Leprechaunify
@Leprechaunify 12 жыл бұрын
As awesome as it looks in a movie, in practice it would work just as well as catching a flying arrow~
@nikita-fm7ij
@nikita-fm7ij 3 жыл бұрын
While It might be a bit ridiculous accuracy wise, you cant say Chinese films are boring.
@giovanni89ification
@giovanni89ification 11 жыл бұрын
If you watch the full version of this scene, Xiahou Dun is indeed order the charge at the climax. Then they resorted to defense again with the Sharp Wall Formation.
@georgebatterbee7493
@georgebatterbee7493 9 жыл бұрын
This film is a masterpiece, pure epicness! A film I watch time and time again!
@user-tl2uc5ez5u
@user-tl2uc5ez5u 3 жыл бұрын
敵の投げた槍をキャッチして、自分の槍にする趙雲カッコイイ!
@Conan_the_Based
@Conan_the_Based 12 жыл бұрын
"What's with these ropes? I could cut them with my sword but... I'd rather see where they take me."
@OZORxORON
@OZORxORON 12 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but laugh when that bearded guy started running and breaking spears lol.
@qwar3458
@qwar3458 9 жыл бұрын
1. No, horses not crashing into a shield formation isn't a strange thing. Horses won't run into obstacles if they have a free way to go, like happens in this sequence. This tactic dates back to ancient egypt (actually first battle recorded in human history, Ramses II vs the hitites). 2. Yes, this is most likely a lame depiction of what happened in reality. If not regarding the tactic itself, at least one could think that the horsemen would... You know... Attack them meanwhile waiting to see what happens. 3. They don't attack because they are carrying swords. Straight swords. On fucking horseback. Good lord. Veredict: The basic tactic isn't magic at all. But empires of all periods of history (starting with the very same Ramses II that used this tactic for the first time) have greatly exaggerated their victories, to the point this looks way, way, way too effective on the chinesse part, and too moronic on the other guys (mongols? And they don't have bows?) part.
@vyomj
@vyomj 5 жыл бұрын
This formation looks more like the famous Chakravyuh used in Mahabharath which led to Abhimanyu's brutal death.
@kka5002
@kka5002 5 жыл бұрын
lol. go check out mahabarat!!!
@river6634
@river6634 5 жыл бұрын
They're also chinese.
@syrupticious
@syrupticious 11 жыл бұрын
0:31 "Hey look! the enemies are making a big circle, let's all go inside!! :) Seems legit!"
@sirtaelellevalerie1056
@sirtaelellevalerie1056 3 жыл бұрын
They couldn't see that circle, they didn't have bird eye view ;) besides, there was sand everywhere, they couldn't see a shit anyway.
@pavelivanov2999
@pavelivanov2999 3 жыл бұрын
​ @Sirtael Ellevalerie Ok, you dont do any scouting, becuase your plan is to go just ahead and hope for the best. Great plan. Works every time. Except, when it does not.
@sirtaelellevalerie1056
@sirtaelellevalerie1056 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavelivanov2999 they was in the open, hailed by arrows. Not a best situation to planning. In the midst of enemies they at least couldn't be shoot at.
@pavelivanov2999
@pavelivanov2999 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirtaelellevalerie1056 i dont get, how someone can say that this looks some what plausible. It makes no sense. Charging blindly is plain stupid, only an amateur or a mad man would do such a thing. Secondly in real life such a formation would be broken easily. When commenting on how bad this scene is one does not know, where to start. It is just incredibly retarded.
@sirtaelellevalerie1056
@sirtaelellevalerie1056 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavelivanov2999 "t makes no sense. Charging blindly is plain stupid, only an amateur or a mad man would do such a thing" when enemy has superior firepower and you have no cover, charging is the best option (most of the time) www.businessinsider.com/the-most-famous-bayonet-charge-of-modern-conflict-2012-10
@True_Necroholic
@True_Necroholic 11 жыл бұрын
Thats why its a movie and not a documentary.
@deadpixelc
@deadpixelc 11 жыл бұрын
it's Bagua Formation and it's one of the most famous formation in ancient tactics
@Investing_WithDrake_Culver
@Investing_WithDrake_Culver 3 жыл бұрын
0:26 Cornavirus entering your body be like.
@OmniHakurei
@OmniHakurei 11 жыл бұрын
Three Kingdoms so good :D
@SumanBhowmickdarkside
@SumanBhowmickdarkside 11 жыл бұрын
Perfect..
@user-hs4gf9fn4q
@user-hs4gf9fn4q 4 жыл бұрын
官渡の戦いから無敗を維持した曹軍の騎兵があっさり敗北したのは驚きだったろうな
@KnightOfNostalgia
@KnightOfNostalgia 10 жыл бұрын
Its almost just as stupid as American and British armies in the 1700's when theyd just march infront of each other and shoot at point blank range.
@AndyC-rm4wj
@AndyC-rm4wj 10 жыл бұрын
That was't stupid. Muskets were inaccurate and that way of fighting was very effective. Throw artillery, sharpshooters and cavalry into the mix and it is a very complex battle. It certainly required more tactics than this mess.
@drafezard7315
@drafezard7315 9 жыл бұрын
chap0syoutuification Well said except perhaps that last part.
@connorhull9215
@connorhull9215 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure muskets back then also usually weren't powerful enough to shoot through someone and to stop the bullets bouncing off they'd have to get in close. Flintlock pistols were awful in this regard because they'd just put the barrel against someone's chest and fire to make sure it didn't just bruise.
@aresu.8480
@aresu.8480 4 жыл бұрын
Still way better than this horriblelic chinese idea
@ImperialEarthEmpire
@ImperialEarthEmpire 8 жыл бұрын
in reality only dumb general would engage that formation head on... especially on that clear plain...
@pavelivanov2999
@pavelivanov2999 3 жыл бұрын
This formation can easily be broken as it is just a few lines deep, not that charging head on is the best tactic. I would like to see them attacking in this clever formation. That would be so fun.
@Danatsu
@Danatsu 12 жыл бұрын
I hope there would be more movies with battles like this. Maybe there are, and I have not seen them yet. Anyway, after e.g. war movies with bigger and bigger guns, or just mad slaughters with tons of blood.... This is something much more enjoyable and different in a good way. (sorry bad English, but I hope you got the point)
@dw5chaosfan
@dw5chaosfan 12 жыл бұрын
If you rough translate it, it's the 8 elements formation. It was developed during the warring states period of China, before the Qin Dynasty.
@zinanmo
@zinanmo 11 жыл бұрын
so before the battle of the red cliff,CaoCao has the emperor and the government to back him up,so he is politically the offical and justice side.SunQuan just gained his throne and has little control over the court,but the effort his family has made makes Wu a solid base for him to develop. LiuBei's royal blood makes him extremely popular with the majority, he can gather the talented people better than others
@moc-tv-reviews2520
@moc-tv-reviews2520 3 жыл бұрын
A moment of silence for all horses who are hurt 😞
@jonopants5118
@jonopants5118 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly speaking yea rip. But they probs tried to save horses. They're pretty expensive.
@zinanmo
@zinanmo 11 жыл бұрын
the reason why they would do such a thing is because Zhuge Liang called this formation outdated but he found a good use to it by creating a sand storm and restricting enemy's vision which leaded enemy to fall into trap.And the general did carried sword
@ZuilzonDTD
@ZuilzonDTD 12 жыл бұрын
You can find it off Amazon for sure, that's were I got my copy.
@zinanmo
@zinanmo 11 жыл бұрын
So CaoCao had the political advantage and can gather army in the imperial name(fast and good cause).SunQuan has the solid Base his father and brother had left him so he can do what he want without the worrying of backstabbing(this CaoCao cant do).LiuBei has the best man resource for his popularity.
@jasonicgamer1683
@jasonicgamer1683 3 жыл бұрын
Aquila_Sieg yep
@surraka1113
@surraka1113 3 жыл бұрын
If all of them in those time rally for there nation exactly China will easily to rule Asia in those time
@Renkencen
@Renkencen 8 жыл бұрын
Ok that was a weird defence formation that those horsemen just waltz right in... Also shame for the horsemen that got roped in near the end, they should of carry sword or some cutting blades.
@4eyesnb
@4eyesnb 8 жыл бұрын
the horsemen are meant to break the formation or find the enemy general and kill.
@dingliedangliedoodle9261
@dingliedangliedoodle9261 8 жыл бұрын
It's plausible, only, the formation should be more packed with men and have spears sticking out. Horses naturally wouldn't want to charge into a dense body looking like a wall with spears sticking out, so they choose to run into the gaps, gaps which were tactically left open to funnel them into killzones.
@saintus888
@saintus888 5 жыл бұрын
What the fuck do you think they were carrying? Feathers?
@Greensiteofhell
@Greensiteofhell 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, no! A dude with a turtle-shield is standing in front of me - hmm, I better ride around and look confused. ;)
@spitandfire
@spitandfire 12 жыл бұрын
this is the only film i have ever seen where the horses take arrows as well as the men so it has more authenticity than most hollywood films
@karndrogo
@karndrogo 8 жыл бұрын
One thing they need is better wood quality that's for sure...
@giovanni89ification
@giovanni89ification 11 жыл бұрын
if they do, they will be encircled again and again, it is a trap formation. it is the legendary Stone Sentinel Maze.
@etienne2069
@etienne2069 5 жыл бұрын
Its a really cool martial art fight scene
@ss-ji6li
@ss-ji6li 2 жыл бұрын
レッドクリフ良かったよなあ、総合的に。
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@questionc9312 Жыл бұрын
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