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Red locks and welds the clutch of a CRV rear diff for Tim's AWD Civic EM2
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Күн бұрынRed locks the clutch pack of a CRV differential so that Tim can use a drive shaft with a Viscous Coupler on his EM2 Rotrex K24. this is the first instalment for for Tim's AWD conversion, there will be one video per week showing every step of his AWD conversion.
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@scottcraft7690 5 жыл бұрын
That looks reasonably simple. That definitely clears up what people mean by pinning the differential.
@LTR450black 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck yes dude omg I've been waiting for a video like this, I promised my wife for two weeks that I would go to this stupid friends party with her but I told her fuck that I'm staying at the crib and watching this video, I might be getting a divorce but it might be worth it
@charliespann3967 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, we can see what you’re doing. Thanks
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Ya we read alot of comments saying you guys couldn't see what I was doing so we will try to make better videos
@charliespann3967 5 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. @@PirateGarage
@colt098 4 жыл бұрын
You are helping me so much with my build dude, thank you so much
@technocan8803 5 жыл бұрын
Red and Tim, you guys rock, great content, Red your knowledge is astounding, keep up the great work guys!
@tonylopez199960 4 жыл бұрын
Best informative manual
@abec666 5 жыл бұрын
i really appresiate yor videos mate. Can you do a video on comparing the differentials? In the 3:33 you say to the newer differentials they have better clutch packs etc etc. A video just comparing the internals. Whats ebtter and whats not from the clutch mechanism. Thanks and good luck.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I can put something side to side I will work on something soon
@abec666 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage Just giving ideas. I put your idea of the x type differential on honda-tech.com .There are a ton of these diff here at europe for like 70 GBP and they SHOULD be strong. Im just wandering about the rotation. This might sound dumb but what are the chances that the Jaguar differential was designed to be rotated the other way?
@jprince3 4 жыл бұрын
how has this held up? would this be a good option for a daily in a rd-1 cr-v?although i think i would have to have the VC installed becasue the fornt and rear tires would fight as you turn the car. thank you and great content!
@george12frodo 3 жыл бұрын
how did this turn out? did it work. im thinking about doing this to a 2002 cr-v to make it for 4x4 lmao but idk
@pFbSpecV 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I want to do to my 07 element rear diff!! I thought it was 05 but it's a 07. There is someone who makes the freelander vicious coupler and driveshaft bolt on ready.
@rt4wd_wolff 4 жыл бұрын
Who makes it?
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I got it done at a driveline shop
@rt4wd_wolff 4 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage this guy says there is someone who makes the freelander viscous coupler and driveshaft bolt on ready. Was asking who makes that, I am going to have my local driveline shop modify me a Freelander VC when I can find one. Do you know of an online shop that sells the Freelander VC for a reasonable price?
@kingwizard1491 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful
@boxer951 5 жыл бұрын
Great vids. Maybe one day you guys can do an AWD 8th gen civic si 👍
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Bring the car down
@michaelpereira2888 5 жыл бұрын
Damn if I wasn't on the east I'd bring my 9th gen!
@boxer951 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage yea,too bad i totalled it last month lol. So time for a new project tho.
@boxer951 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage is it easier to do an AWD on a crx K-Swapped? Cuz since my FA5 is now totalled,i'm kinda thinking of getting a crx and use my K24A2 from my FA5 and maybe make it AWD.
@jamesschreiber8834 5 жыл бұрын
Have u noticed any vibration from the rear diff being out of balance because of the drilling and the pins? Looks pretty symmetrical. I’m just wondering how off before it can be before it starts to vibrate and wear itself out.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the metal I removed is almost equal to the pins I added so the answer to your question is no I'm sure it will be good
@RelProjects3 Жыл бұрын
What's the reason to weld/lock the clutch pack?
@DeadFront1319 5 жыл бұрын
Was starting to wonder about you guys, good to see a new vid in my feed, you make it all look so easy. Really digging your music too btw 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽. So I couldn't help but notice on one of the recent Hoonigan videos they featured Bizzy Moto's awd civic, was that the diff we got to see you guys work on together?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Yes that was the differential we helped Bisimoto with.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Me and Tim try to make videos as often as we can but car parts are expensive and we both have jobs, this diff is for Time can and we are going to post one video a week showing every step of his AWD conversion
@foulmouthgonz7174 5 жыл бұрын
G'day Red, In your opinion what would be your untimate AWD components? I have a 1978 Australian Leyland Mini and would like to do track days, time events, hill climbs and gymkhana style envents running CRV driveline. Will be on a budget so wreckers and donor cars will be my go to source. Keep up the good work mate👍
@Mikeywelcs 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm looking at buying a DB9 4wd Integra that's for sale near me, it's real time 4wd dual pump system, I guess I can do this to the diff to, what HP are these good for once you lock the diff?
@flyboyfs Жыл бұрын
I have this dif older version, on my civic and I like to modify to engage better and constantly, do you have kit for this older version the springs etc?
@jprince3 4 жыл бұрын
do you have any videos / resources that you have found for mounting installing the landrover shaft (w/ viscous coupler) to an rd-1 cr-v? thank you and great video - you rock!
@kane5688 5 жыл бұрын
Informative as always. Regarding the crv diff, what lsd could you run in it, or is that not a thing?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
There is no LSD out. But there should be one comming very soon
@marcustan3833 3 жыл бұрын
hi, can you run this without a viscous coupler? what will happen if you dont?
@bens9468 5 жыл бұрын
great video. Any news on the vc install. Would be great to see how good a crv is off road with the mods
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
That video is coming soon
@JordanTaylorVlogs 4 жыл бұрын
how does this compare price wise vs doing a wagovan setup? and also, what kind of power can this setup handle? Great content.
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Way better
@joelvega4860 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I was wondering if the differential from 2003 honda element is the same and if Is a good one or not?
@unclejun84 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, you guys are here in Florida
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
No Southern California
@khvichatsetse6793 3 жыл бұрын
Hello ! As you know, Honda HR-V 2005 release. Has a similar gearbox. Is it recommended to redesign the Honda HRV gearbox this way? Who has a CVT transmission?
@samihhadid 2 жыл бұрын
How much hp would it be good for
@WhosPacci 5 жыл бұрын
Nice camera work there “Tim”.
@mrnonamenobody6910 5 жыл бұрын
🤔 Hi...are auto crv rear diff's the same as the manual crv's...I doubt it but just trying to get conformation...thks..👍👍...really liking the content too. 😎
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
All the same
@angelguerr 5 жыл бұрын
hi guy´s love the vids and i just wonder if the welded diff can handle the power of the car? i have a 98 manual crv and i plan someday do that kind of conversion... by the way the music kicks ass \m/
@Snow0255 5 жыл бұрын
You could weld the rear but the front you'll want a phantom grip it's a block of aluminum that goes into the front diff itself and makes it a lsd trans Weld front diff sucks but that phantom grip is a life saver
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't weld the Differential only the clutch pack to lock it to the front Soni can use a viscous coupler and Tim's car has a wavetrac LSD in the front
@Mikeywelcs 5 жыл бұрын
Im new to your channel, what year crv is this diff from? What sort of power can it hold? Also is that all you need to do to the diff is lock those clutch packs and weld it and its good to go? I picked me up a wagovan diff, driveshaft with viscous coupler and both rear axles 3weeks ago for $200 new zealand dollars which is around $134usd haha i got super lucky.
@rgreerjr 5 жыл бұрын
V360Newzealander the wago rear end is way different. It doesn’t have those clutches in the diff since it uses a viscous coupler. All you need to do to a wago rear is either stick with open diff or weld the spider gears.
@Mikeywelcs 5 жыл бұрын
@@rgreerjr Yeah i know it doesnt have clutches in the diff, im talking about the crv diff, nevermind now tho, i asked the question before watching the whole video.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
That is a really good price. This CRV differential is from a 2002 CRV. Nobody has tested the max power in this configuration yet.
@Mikeywelcs 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage Yeah for sure, I see the wagovan setup is like $3000usd+ on ebay which is crazy.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
This is the cheaper alternative which should work exactly the same
@dd3512guy 5 жыл бұрын
if I weld the spider gears in my 2000 cr-v but leave the clutch packs as normal, will it effect daily driving? I'm looking to get "slightly" better off-road capability. also, could that be combined with a real front lsd?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
The street drivability will be poor the tires will screech every time you make a turn
@dd3512guy 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage does anyone make a rear lsd for the cr-v's?
@bjaranda5541 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man are you located in Cali?
@justinwright54 5 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend doing this for a rwd conversion or would you rather use a different rear diff? Also how does the crv trans hold up to a rwd configuration? Btw love the content man!!!
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Awd is always better, I don't think it would be a good setup
@abec666 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpfull... Bmw rear diffs are very strong and cheap did you managed to find one with the correct gearing? Also what about going for 2 compact viscous couplers on the front axles and remove the rear VC? This way power will go to the rear first.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
No the closest one was from a Jaguar but I rather use a Honda diff the jag is like a for 8.8 I think so it's really big
@abec666 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage Ill try so find some data on bmw. Whats the rear gearing must be?
@Salvador.corona 5 жыл бұрын
Hey that's a good idea . Hey I notice that you have a RS clutch sticker in your hood did you put it there ?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Long time ago
@girovonclitren9897 5 жыл бұрын
What year freelander driveshaft are you using? im having trouble finding one and a wagon vc driveshaft is impossible to find at a decent price. im about to do the same pin and weld set up on a crv diff great video!
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I think is 03-05
@ethanwillison1445 5 жыл бұрын
What is the performance difference between this and shim/ramp upgrade you did for bisimoto? Trying to decide what to do with my 05 Crv. So much great information here!
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
It helps but using a vc is the way to go
@ethanwillison1445 5 жыл бұрын
Pirate Garage thank you! keep up the killer work, your videos convinced me to keep my CR-V, and put some work into it.
@ricercrv8274 3 жыл бұрын
Is it for a second gen or first gen crv
@scott6885 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious... what would happen if you used the rd1 crv driveshaft with these same modifications. Basically an always activated rear diff. Do you thing with decent fluid and regular changes would it hold up? These are everywhere in the pull-a-parts near me. Might be worth a shot to see how it would hold up
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
You can't do this modification if your not using a viscous coupler
@kaimackk 4 жыл бұрын
If I’m planning on doing a k-awd setup on my integra, would it only benefit straight line traction? Or cornering as well?
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly guys do this for straight line traction when they have big power
@kaimackk 4 жыл бұрын
Pirate Garage thanks for the response! Just trying to figure out the right swap for me. I saw a video a while back of a guy that did a sh-awd rl swap on a civic, he had to get a stand-alone ecu and program the rear diff’s torque vectoring... seems like an awesome swap, too advanced for my knowledge though.
@andybhoy2009 5 жыл бұрын
Hi red , again buddy great detailed video 👌.. when welding the clutch plate closed with the pins inserted , is this creating more of a power split or is this mod to mimic rear LSD ? Keep up the good work man 💯
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
It's so you can run a viscous coupler
@andybhoy2009 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage are you going to be using the CRV prop or are you modifying another prop to fit with a mid centred viscous ?
@andybhoy2009 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage sorry for the dumb question watched the video again and heard that you are using the land rover prop ... Doesn't the CRV already have a viscous coupler? I am new to the world of AWD Red so I do apologise , you seem to be the only guy I can find who breaks it down in to good detail for dudes like myself 👍
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
No it does not
@andybhoy2009 5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage have you made a video or do you plan on making a video on the modification of the prop ?
@mikef058 4 жыл бұрын
Red, can this be applied to other front wheel biased AWD cars? For example a Mazdaspeed 6 which is AWD but utilizes the clutch pack in the rear diff to engage AWD.
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do that to a car without adding a new device to ad slip
@callmetree19 5 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t you just pin the clutch pack and keep the dual pump?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
The dual pump engages the the clutch by pinning it the clutch is permanently locked so the dual pump becomes obsolete
@jond9963 4 жыл бұрын
@pirategarage Can you leave it in there for shaft support or it doesn’t matter?
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The pump? It has plenty of support so not needed
@heathwiechman4297 5 жыл бұрын
Red can the transmission be modified so that 100% of the power goes through the transfer case to the rear diff? I know the t case needs an upgrade but would the rear diff handle it?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
If you want a rwd setup I wouldn't use a crv tranny
@neverknowsbest4994 5 жыл бұрын
theoretically yes. but the "transfer case" isnt really strong enough. the rear axles are pretty weak. pirate garage is right. it's really going to work and if it does it wont last very long at all.
@swaggygaming6814 5 жыл бұрын
Can i send you my diff so this can be done so i can run a vc and a freelander shaft on my ef sedan?
@LSJUAN 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be better if you gutted the dual pump assembly and reinstalled it for support?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Not needed there is a support bearing inside the housing pay better attention to what I say I cover this in the video
@LSJUAN 5 жыл бұрын
Yea I jumped the gun and commented before getting to that part
@henryrosado1549 5 жыл бұрын
You could replace the clutch for steel plate and you don't have to drill and use the pin.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Until someone makes them this is the easiest way
@henryrosado1549 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware that nobody sale them.
@jerrimyspencer2161 5 жыл бұрын
What size holes did you drill and what kind of pins did you use and where are they from?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
1/4" and got the rod from home Depot
@ahmetbarbaros5602 4 жыл бұрын
How do I get these pads in my car is missing the pads
@tomasrivera5157 5 жыл бұрын
so how much better is the freelander coupler than the crv clutch pack dual pump design? is the engagement quicker?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't been able to test it yet
@criscereno 3 жыл бұрын
Will it work for my crv gen 1 or crv 98?
@GingeAv2 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Red does this process also apply to the earlier 1st gen CRV diff? is that a viable choice or should i be looking to use the newer gen diffs? cheers
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
This was a first gen rear diff
@GingeAv2 4 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage Awesome! cheers for your reply bud! I really appreciate it! time to get a donor! Cheers again from the UK!
@k20909 Жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of this
@criscereno 3 жыл бұрын
Will it work in a automatic 97crv?
@fundaandkady 4 жыл бұрын
Could I pin my stick crv without having a viscous coupler
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
If you did that you would break things
@uptownsquash5573 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do this with out using a viscous? And leave it at FT 4wd if you did, how streetable would it be?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I have not tried but if you did use a 05-11 crv the gear ratio in the back is cloeser to the front
@uptownsquash5573 5 жыл бұрын
Pirate Garage I think I’m gunna try it and see what breaks
@osvaldoperez7205 4 жыл бұрын
How will this work on a street/track car or there's no need for this for what I want it for
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
It will work perfectly because it's for someone wanting to use a viscous coupler
@jerrytvong2786 4 жыл бұрын
What do mean by wagon? Yr make model
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
89-91 civic awd wagon
@Desertduleler_88 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long it'll last with constant 4WD.....
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
There will be a viscous coupler as I stated in the video
@swilli2011 5 жыл бұрын
You mentioned manual crv differential.. is their a difference between the auto and manual diff?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Auto and manual transmission shares nothing, the rear carrier is the same
@swilli2011 5 жыл бұрын
Pirate Garage do you need a specific year/model rear carrier to do this mod?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
No this will work on all crv diffs but the 05-11 is easyer you don't have to weld the clutch pack because there is a c-clip that hold it together
@carlosmanualhidalgo8672 5 жыл бұрын
Did you weld the rear diff?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
No. We will install a lsd when they become available
@jonathonmonteith9965 5 жыл бұрын
why do you need a viscous in the driveshaft
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I talked about in my video, it's an alternative to the duel pump system in the crv
@matthewleblanc2581 4 жыл бұрын
Would this mod be good for a daily for a CRV
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Not without a VC, I went over that in my video
@GarynLouis 5 жыл бұрын
Can i lock out the crv differential just to make my crv more of an awd?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
You will need to add a viscous coupler or else the car won't drive well and will break everything
@GarynLouis 5 жыл бұрын
Plus an lsd in the tranny right?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
LSD always helps
@adorno1010 4 жыл бұрын
would this make the awd work all the time?
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
No this is so you can use a viscous coupler you don't want the front and rear locked
@adorno1010 4 жыл бұрын
@@PirateGarage ok thanks
@MikeJones-ru9rj 5 жыл бұрын
IS A 2003 CRV DIFFERENTIAL ANY GOOD?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer 05-11
@MikeJones-ru9rj 5 жыл бұрын
Garcan you explain why and thank you for answering questions i truly appreciate it.
@voldo1erjr 5 жыл бұрын
What does locking the clutch packs together do?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I answered that question in the description
@voldo1erjr 5 жыл бұрын
So Tim can use a viscous coupling ...but what will this do? will it let the diff use 50% of torque when the front slips?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
The vs is always slipping so it will never be true 50-50
@voldo1erjr 5 жыл бұрын
I see...but it is a major upgrade from stock right? I have a lifted CRV with mud tires and I noticed at times it seems like I'm only getting about 15% of torque to the rear tire ...one last question will welding the rear diff be a good idea?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I don't recommend locking the rear differential if you plan to drive it on the street, that's the same a spool
@operatoncreation6396 5 жыл бұрын
i'm amazing something so small does so much...
@nicholaslopez4170 4 жыл бұрын
You're not that amazing
@brathabee.2743 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding to my 1996 Honda crv its making a howling noise in the rear is it possible it could be the diff or wheel bearings
@eddiesaefong7945 4 жыл бұрын
Dirty fluid have it changed should go away and that is hondas recommendation
@eddiesaefong7945 4 жыл бұрын
And I had this kn my 2000 crv changed fluids and good to.go
@chadkimble7456 4 жыл бұрын
That thing is so hard to drill
@PirateGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Many metal plates
@chamchamc8061 5 жыл бұрын
This means to be full time awd"
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
It allows you to use a viscous coupler
@reneboycastro8000 10 ай бұрын
Rd1 diffe much stronger
@jth1987leb 5 жыл бұрын
Omg you’re “cleaning” each clutch then putting the rag right back in the metal shavings.
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
The clutch is locked it won't be moving anymore, the only reason I cleaned them was so I can weld it and not start on fire, please watch the whole video
@jth1987leb 5 жыл бұрын
Pirate Garage my concern is that rage kept being used to clean but in between cleaning you were throwing it back into the metal shavings. Aren’t you concerned about that getting into the diff?
@PirateGarage 5 жыл бұрын
No there is a screen separating the front from the rear and the end of the diff was welded shut, like I said watch the whole video
@mondlim7151 3 жыл бұрын
How was it running? Planning to that as well n
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