+Kris Alcera Yeah a lot of idols get braces to fix their teeth pre-debut, that's nothing from the other world. Not everyone can be born with perfect everything

same

Kris Alcera Plastic sugary 100%. Then and Now different 95%. She changed so much, so it was impossible not to do plastic surgery.

Kris Alcera Except she is a magician that can be transformed her face.

Ning Ning lmao why do i detect some saltiness from your comment hhahaha but at least she's prettier even before she debut so what's the big deal and altho i disagree that shead jobe done, i just want to say that nthing big really changed from her so you should stop exaggerating

she had

double eyelids

DanIscool09 she got a double eyelids surgery

Double eyelid, cheeks and jaw, it is pretty obvious and there's nothing wrong with plastic surgery anyway

+Pamela Henríquez i dont think she has surgery with her jaw, she just lose some weight so it appeared V-line jaw (this is my opinion and sry for my English 😂)

You can't swear. One of my acquaintances passed the SM audition last year and they told her to do plastic surgery to improve her visuals so she can fully passed the audition and went to korea. But she didn't want to do it and SM is just.. throw her. You just don't know what happened to RV.

@@agesvoilure6455 stop lying

@@chillwithxavier6484 im not lmao

@@agesvoilure6455 sure

@@agesvoilure6455 Well then probably we all should go to SM Ent. to Audition and know the fact. But I don't think they would literally throw someone out just because she or he didn't do plastic surgery. SM can't just lose someone who is talented Lol.

Bruh i know ur a fan. ANd im a huge red velvet fan as well. But you have to be trolling if u think she didnt have surgery. This person looks nothing like her lol. But i do have to say she looked very attractive pre debut as well so the surgery was not needed. But all the idols do it so its fine.

@@antoniodiamonte3424 I don't think all Idols do it. Maybe most of them or some or whatever. But I also do think that Irene did Plastic Surgery and don't get me wrong because Irene is my ultimate bias out of all Idols in this world. I don't hate her and I don't envy her but her face looks incredibly different from before. And it was like her 20-30's age when she changed so much and I don't know if people change a lot at that age. (I'll try to look it up) And for her eyes, I don't think she did something to her eyes just because when I see her bare face, her eyelids doesn't look more obvious and it looks the same as her eyes before debut.

@@antoniodiamonte3424 not all of idols do it lol. Yeri, joy, and seulgi look exactly the same like their old photos

Deluded people...all idols do surgery from very few to extreme change

ikr and she just lost weight and got her teeth idk something wit her teeth just bc shes pretty it doesn't mean she had plastic surgery jezz

LemonadeHD she had her eyes done ... double eyelids obviously

Irene Castle yeah puberty....

Irene Castle puberty? In pretty sure these pictures were from when she was in her twenties(or past puberty). But no I don't think its surgery. I just think her face slimmed down a bit.

Irene Castle Haha I'm Irene bias in rv but no hate Its puberty and lose weight plus some ps.See even her former classmate made a comment on naver saying that she had done something to her eyes.Probably got double eyelid even though she had before because its like she didn't have at all!That's it!!

+SHINLEE KRYSTALIZED lol this is true. i totally agree. stop being so delulu man we can clearly see that irene did a nose job.

+SHINLEE KRYSTALIZED shes pretty!

+SHINLEE KRYSTALIZED shes pretty!

no wonder the other members wanted to be her in another life. omg shes so pretty!

+SHINLEE KRYSTALIZED she definitely did her eyes too

she has always been pretty tho?

or even chinese, she looks more chinese to me

She looks japanese for black eyes and white skin

Its the hair color

Ikr

@@kishypishy9947 I think the same, is the color of her hair, more light.

Hahaha you must be ugly then. Ugly reveluv. 🤣

Mardea ' You don't have to say that bitch.

@@girfan8479 you don't have to say something bad to other people, no one's ugly physically, it's just your mentality.

well, it kinda hurts to say my fav idol got surgery so i can understand their feelings but since she actually got some minor surgery, it doesnt matter much. they shouldnt fight much

It's called as "being accused". Just imagine that you do not have plastic surgery and then some stranger just insisted that you have plastic surgery while in reality you really didn't. Won't you hate being accused of something you didn't do?

As long as there's no confirmation, It's not hypocrite at all to be like "there's nothing wrong with ps" to a random idol confirmed to have done some and then get into an argument with someone affirming that one idol had done it despite there being no confirmation. Like, Plastic surgery is not wrong, yet at the same time it's something that affects one's pride if I could say. People can be born looking like Aphrodite naturally, if they suddenly start hearing that they got their beauty from a clinic next door, wouldn't they feel heavily offended? Fans always react more than how the idol would himself react. So since there's no confirmation and a transformation like Irene's is possible with no PS intervention, people would argue over it. I know many people whose appearance changed a lot as they grew up. Nose shape, eyelids, hair/eye colour and more.

I agree so much!!! It seems like you can't have an opinion anymore. I love Irene a lot and I do think that she had plastic surgery. I actually don't care. Even if she had, I will still support her

We don't affirm it. You are the one affirming that she didn't. We only say what we think

you can't accuse someone without a concrete evidence, dummy. that would be 'false accusation' if ever they are wrong, which is obviously against the moral and law. and another thing is, the reason why we are all so fussing out is because immature people will do anything just to bring people down. yes, it's true. there's nothing wrong with doing plastic surgeries and such. what's wrong is someone being accused of something-- most especially if it wasn't proved right. and that's basically the reason why we are actually mad at some hate comments. u need to learn, kid. and who are you calling hypocrite? urself? pretending that u know everything about this world. u make me laugh

seohyun No, when you get older, your eyes don't just naturally evolve in to huger eyes.

I think they made double eyelid no huge eyes.

lmao, she got eyelid surgery its obvious. But thats not a bad thing

+rainydays if ya look carefully at her predut pics you can see her double eyelids!! its like hidden but when she blinks you can see it! look carefully at the corner of her eyes!

Zhi Yan "it's like hidden", they're not now and it's obvious she got them done. They are much more prominent now because of the procedure. Eyelids don't appear unless you're overweight and lose a substantial amount of weight.

Aye kekeke but she did lose weight :")

+Zhi Yan Really?! But I'm starting to get double eye lids and I'm still the same

Its only a tape. Taeyeon is also using that since she is a monolid

+Alliah Corpuz taeyeon is not monolid. she has double eyelid but it is not that visible so sometimes she use some tape to make it more visible and make her eyes look bigger.

+Alliah Corpuz taeyeon has double eyelid eversince

Yeah ,just like taeyeon( she uses tape although she isn't monolid ) Irene uses it too.

Here's the thing.. Asian eyelids aren't as deep-set as Caucasian eyelids. Even something as simple as lack of sleep can affect its appearance--losing weight and puberty can bring more lasting changes. It's ridiculous to attribute such a small change as DEFINITELY ps when she obviously lost weight and was really young in those predebut pics.

she was really pretty to begin with why did she have surgery? she had such an innocent look and she lost it :( SM doesnt have sense :(

I think she also did nose

BLINK Army who cares if yall see a predebut of a boy group yall say "omg he so cute puberty hit him like a truck he never got plastic surgery" but when yall see a predebut pic of girl group yall say "ew wtf she was so ugly back then she got plastic surgery" like wtf

r a i did I say that lmao ? did I call her ug ? did I talk about ANY boy group ? what are u getting so hyped for ?

BLINK Army cuz i can get hype who the fuck cares if she got plastic surgery there was no need for you to comment that dumbass

she had v shape jaw since her childhood lmfao

ikr

@jonathan she did, look at what the comment said

@jonathan tho its just a tape, im pretty sure any othey kpop idol uses it

She's not PS

Its a tape :)) taeyeon is also using the tape since she is monolid

+Alliah Corpuz no, its better for them to make a eyelid surgery because it stays like forever. and they are not gonna use a tape everytime they get make up done. just accept it. i dont mean kt in a bad way. i really like irene but you cant say she didn't get eyelid surgery. i dont want to fight but its the truth

^Its okay :))) many of my idol got surgery too so it doesnt matter to me that much

It's eyelid tape lol

people's face changes when they hit puberty. dont you see your face back then now? similar or not? lmao

+OnlyMusic16 yesss and i like irene but i can't deny it

just a bit of a more even jaw/face sculpting and double eyelids she was so pretty, she didnt need it at all

Uh yea it's called puberty O.o

She's a little older than the rest of the idols who debuted so she got a lot of time dieting and ofcourse puberty.I really think its the puberty that change her so much.Nothing changed on her face except shes a lil chubbier before.

Leaholea hmm .. yeah the difference is she is older , lose all the baby fat , and hit puberty .. you do know all those things right ?? idk if you haven’t known it yet , but a person’s face can change over the years as they get older and more mature .... especially with the help of something called makeup .....

She def has has double eyelid surgery

MrJoshbono5 she said she never had any plastic surgery :/

+park hana double eyelid is common almost everyone in korea gets that

+SONE Taengooshi no not everyone:( if you are not korean you can't say like you know everything about korea. you are just jealous about female korean celebrities and not looking forward to pretty predebut pictures. do you think every pictures you have taken are same as your face?

+SONE Taengooshi some international fans are so judgemental

She clearly did im a fan dude

yes i also think she did..i'm a fan too

+yookduk changsubbie I am a fan too. Yes she did it ONLY to her eyes

Dana Ko I'm also an RV fan but I think Irene got plastic surgery. It's not hating, it's stating an opinion. She probably got her eyes done to make her double-eyelids more prominent. And probably her jaw too? And there's nothing wrong with that. So, what? She's pretty before but she's prettier now. We are in the K-Pop world were most celebrities got plastic surgery. I'm just not a delusional fan though.

Anggie Yuniar Putri Utami Irene is natural, her eyes look bigger because she is wearing eyelid tape, fake eyelashes and makeup, just search for her aiport pictures for example from 16.04.17 and zoom into her eyes. You can clearly see eyelid tape, and she was wearing eyelid tape for everyday when they had shedule since their debut (and on sm rookies photos too). Note: You can't see eyelid tape on edited and whitewashed photos you need to zoom in and search for aiport photos, when she is looking down. I hope people saying shit about her will stop now.

erika alvarez Yeah. she looks like japanese but I guess she's not contented with that.

but she didnt get her eyes done so doesnt make sense

ikr! she had such an innocent look and was so pretty

Eyelid tape