RED WINGS PROJECTIONS & KANE, TARASENKO CONNECTION - Winged Wheel Podcast

RED WINGS PROJECTIONS & KANE, TARASENKO CONNECTION - Winged Wheel Podcast - July 10th, 2024

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Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarasenko had high praise ofr Hockeytown, and it seems like the Detroit Red Wings fanbase had a lot to do with it.
Tune in as we open by discussing Kane, Tarasenko, and Fischer's media, Kane's love for Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond's goal calls, how Kane helped convinced Tarasenko to sign in Detroit, and how an Original 6 franchise's legacy helped Yzerman ink the stars (4:10).
Next, we discuss the overall work that Steve Yzerman did this summer, and where the Detroit Red Wings are left for the upcoming season. How much offense can Dylan Larkin, Lucas Raymond, Patrick Kane, Alex DeBrincat, Vladimir Tarasenko, Jonatan Berggre, & others produce? Can Edvinsson and Johansson provide enough support for Moritz Seider on the blue line? Can Cam Talbot, Alex Lyon, and Ville Husso be enough in net (12:50)?
After that, NHL news including the Arizona Coyotes officially being free from Muruelo's grasp (43:30), Rutger McGroarty's trade situation and a broader look at UFA, RFA, and NHL signing rights, and a New Era in NHL hats (49:25).
All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:00:05) - enjoy!
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@gavinmarion91 23 күн бұрын

Danielson makes the team as a middle 6 center and the forward group looks like.. Debrincat-Larkin-Raymond Tarasenko-Compher-Kane Copp-Danielson-Berggren Motte-Rassmusen-Fischer Veleno Kasper first call up for any center who gets hurt. Mazur first call up for any winger who gets hurt.

@trentthurow5696 23 күн бұрын

Switch Kane and Raymond imo. If Raymond is going to take the next step to be a star winger, driving his own line would help the team more. Kane has chemistry with DeBrincat and if he was on a line with Tarasenko who is playing defense? Raymond is better defensively and if Kane is with Larkin he doesn’t have to be totally responsible for transporting the puck and let Larkin stretch the defense out.

@gavinmarion91 22 күн бұрын

@@trentthurow5696I can definitely agree with you on that. Could also try.. Debrincat-Larkin-Kane Copp-Danielson-Raymond Berggren-Compher-Tarasenko Would make 3 scoring lines.. Raymond could drive that second line. Last time Copp was producing, he was playing as a top 6 winger.. Compher is a fantastic 2-way 3C, and just let Berggren and Tarasenko do there thing offensively

@jackconrad2667 22 күн бұрын

I’ve had some issues with the lines. I like the idea of Raymond on his own line and Kane playing with cat. But I also think Raymond should be on the first line.

@jackconrad2667 22 күн бұрын

I doubt danielson gets brought up this year. He will probably play in the ahl.

@thewizardofoz511 22 күн бұрын

Switch Compher and Danielson... Man, I feel like I'm playing NHL (EA Sports) all over again😂😅...

@lesevesel2898 23 күн бұрын

CapGeek preceded CapFriendly. Matthew Wuest was a real pioneer and as a Wings fan, we depended on CG for all of our armchair GM debates and pools. We miss you so much, Matthew. Rest in peace.

@ericscottstevens 22 күн бұрын

Sometimes I get the feeling this channel does not do their homework and just goes off the most recent of knowledge. I corresponded with Matthew a few times in the past when he was doing the Red Wings prospects forum, very humble. His advent went largely unpaid for what is now salary cap industry.

@pjdaddio 22 күн бұрын

Part of any responsible rebuild has to include a phase called "improve from within." If it doesn't, it wouldn't be a rebuild, it would be a rental team.

@user-fc2ob7yl3u 23 күн бұрын

Great show tonight guys thanks 🎉🎉🎉

@shatrod6000 22 күн бұрын

Also we are really really beating a dead horse with the 20 minutes per every single episode talking about the Arizona coyotes. Enough is enough.

@randombutrelevant1606 20 күн бұрын

He was paid off by the owners to disappear and that was the plan the entire time. They were just upset that that team had to move so they lost the expansion team money, not to worry, they will get their free cheque (probably 2) in the next 5 years. Houston... and whoever else.

@pjeetter 22 күн бұрын

This discussion of the defense strongly demonstrates what a failure it has been from Yzerman. Acquiring Chiarot, Petry and Holli was such a bad move and now we have to talk about year too late about Edvinsson's first full year and is there place for Johansson

@klompsauce 23 күн бұрын

LGRW 🐙🐙🐙🐙 RIP Cap Friendly

@Mike-ix5sv 23 күн бұрын

1. Raymond 2. Kane 3. Larkin 4. DeBrincat 5. Tarasenko Top 3 all above a point per game.

@UchihaItachi1986 22 күн бұрын

Kane isn't the only one that didn't have a chance to train last offseason. There was Edvinsson too

@dennistitek2980 23 күн бұрын

Go wings we need a top six defensemen

@trentthurow5696 23 күн бұрын

Rasmus Andersson would be the perfect player for the wings. Would fit perfectly on the second pair and take pressure off of Seider, produce enough offense, has a good cap hit. Idk if Calgary would even consider trading him but a starting point would probably be Berggren, Wallinder, and a 1st. I honestly think I would do that, it would fix by far the biggest need on the team.

@randombutrelevant1606 20 күн бұрын

@@trentthurow5696 Not even close to a proper deal dude. Maybe if they can squeak Holl or Copp deal get slid in there, then it makes a bit more sense. I'd way rather Weegar if there is a deal for a CGY dman, he'd cost more, but he is worth it.

@crazybrad99 21 күн бұрын

Biggest hurt is we have a 1a 1b 1c in goalies in college/minors just not ready let. We could trade some prospects for a 3rd pair dman

@shatrod6000 22 күн бұрын

I think you guys are really downplaying the trust the coaches have in edvidson. Standings be damned he was used in final minutes of MUST win games down the stretch. Games with huge implications. There's a reason we dropped walman and that reason is the emergence of edvidson

@Schwartzkov 22 күн бұрын

Really interesting idea on shortening teams rights over a drafted player from Brad

@ericscottstevens 22 күн бұрын

Some have speculated the NHL draft eligible at19 year old, that would give another year of development to showcase their talent and alleviate ELC wrangling . But really NHL teams want to claim kids at 18 to lock them in as soon as possible. It would be a herculean effort for NHL owners to agree to change the NHL draft from 18 to a 19 year old entry. Meaning they would have to skip a year of players in order to reset the birth year eligibility.

@andrewj72 22 күн бұрын

Wings in one of the best situations in the league and Brad finding anything to knit pick about 🙄

@justinshields3819 23 күн бұрын

Detroit Red Wings 2025-2026 projected line-up: DeBrincat Larkin Raymond Taresenko Danielson Kane? Mazur Compher Berggren Soderblom? Kasper Rasmussen Veleno? Edvidsson Seider Gustavsson ASP? Johansson Trouba Chiarot Talbot Cossa

@Curtis-Parker 22 күн бұрын

I don't think Kane will be here in 25-26. By then he might actually start to get washed.

@dondon130 23 күн бұрын

I think Edvinsson will prove himself worthy of playing bigger minutes, not sure about the top pairing yet but I think he'll make his mark. Johansson will hopefully prove himself as well but will be held back. I think they need to start planting rookies in the lineup here and there to give them a taste and make them hungry to succeed. I still wonder about Berggren, not sure what will go down with him, I still think he may be traded. Great podcast, interesting analysis.

@chasem-jw9rn 22 күн бұрын

I don't see why Newsy wouldn't just say "screw it" and play MO on the right on the same line with Simon on the left.

@ericscottstevens 22 күн бұрын

Cap Friendly can count their lucky stars for Matthew Wuest, He basically presented the format who did it non proprietary. It grates me how the future powers see a free idea, steal it, and then are rewarded over the people who thought of the original premise.

@user-rw9rs6di9n 22 күн бұрын

Getting younger will add to team speed. Faster players can get back into more plays or lead to more dangerous chances. Less penalties hopefully from hooks or interference due to lack of mobility. Hoping the team speed can lead to positive outcomes and less clown car defensive break downs.

@user-rw9rs6di9n 22 күн бұрын

McGroarty isn’t the only one that has had issues in Winnipeg. A bunch of fan comments from videos I watched were pretty even at being pissed at him and/or being pissed at coach/management handling prospects incorrectly (putting in mediocre to lower end veterans instead of bringing up higher end prospects). Kinda similar to the talks we have had about maximizing value or impact of our prospects too.

@ericscottstevens 22 күн бұрын

AKA tanking for the lesser teams. Toronto did it drafting Marner, then incredibly sending him back to the OHL for 116 point season that did nothing for his development. It worked for them getting Matthews a year later.

@williamsteffey3434 23 күн бұрын

I think that Dom’s models are crap lol. I say that with the upmost respect, because these things are hard to predict and analyze. That said…wasn’t he one of the ones picking the Wings to finish seventh in the Atlantic last season, and wasn’t he one of the ones saying the Wings rebuild was behind the Sens and the Sabers ? I also won’t buy into the Sabers until they get actual defensemen and not just forwards that line up on defense.

@rock1724 23 күн бұрын

First 100 lets go baby

@RedWingsFanClub 22 күн бұрын

Well, Lalonde did say he wanted youth last year.

@Bestjamesbond 22 күн бұрын

“Hockey HOF is stingy on goalies” Henrik Lundqvist first ballot HOF and won next to nothing throughout his career. It’s a popularity contest.

@Cringleberg 22 күн бұрын

Given that we think theres: Mo, Simon, Chiarot, Maata, Holl, Gustafson, Petry, and Albert. Whos the top 6? Idk whats correct but i think id rather see Albert on the top pair with Mo than Chiarot. I think Chiarot can be a fun pair with Simon. I just dont want Chiarot with Mo and that leaves either Gustafson, Albert or Simon, and i would like Simon to anchor the second pair. IDK itll be interesting to see.

@gregorybaggio 22 күн бұрын

Everyone forgets to hold Lalonde accountable. Last year's fall is not on Larkin getting injured, as much as it was Lalonde's lack of coaching leadership

@rowjoe2409 22 күн бұрын

Walman being traded because he got in the way of showtime, is what i have been telling the boys for these last couple weeks. Tin foil hat is never wrong. Walman being a "top pairing guy" while Holl and Jeff are still on the team, doesn't add up. I know right shot guys.

@scottritcey5166 22 күн бұрын

Not making the playoffs is not an option next year. Half the league makes it. After 8 years no more excuses

@norrisnick 22 күн бұрын

The absolute unwillingness by a subset of fans (podcasters...) to take off the kid gloves and stop coddling the shit out of Edvinsson is wild to me. He's a thoroughbred. Let him run. Let him show his abilities. It's like everyone forgot how Mo's entry to the league happened and are still terrified that young kids aren't ready for big roles. Ed has been THE guy on nearly every team he's ever played on. Having a 2nd THE guy in Mo will be a breath of fresh air for both of them.

@randombutrelevant1606 20 күн бұрын

He showed everything he needed to in his call up late in the season, he is a top 3 on this team already and likely top 2 by game 50

@dennisgoebel3615 22 күн бұрын

A. J. is better than Holl, better than Petry, and will be a good 2nd line d-man.

@leonidas7281 22 күн бұрын

You lost me with the top 10 pick shit

@thewizardofoz511 22 күн бұрын

Yea, what the hell was that about??...

@justinhenderson4901 10 күн бұрын

Evan being Evan don't fret

@Thegooman67 23 күн бұрын

The guys say it's a net loss but I'm not so sure, Tarasenko is a marked improvement over Perron, Gus will put up a similar point total as Gostisbhere with more balanced play defensively and Berggren has proven he is just as good of an O zone playmaker as Sprong. Not to mention Rass was having a career year before getting injured and goalie health is back at full strength.

@Doctor_of_Fartiology 22 күн бұрын

Gus is not putting up Gos's numbers 😂

@jackconrad2667 22 күн бұрын

@@Doctor_of_Fartiologymaybe he doesn’t quite match ghost bear. But it will be close enough.

@jackconrad2667 22 күн бұрын

The only hole that Perron leaves is that he’s a menace. Tarasenko will probably out point per game Perron. But isn’t as tough. If Perron had to play in the first line he probably could. Tarasenko gives me some worry on the first line. But on the second line. I think Tarasenko outplays Perron.

@jackconrad2667 22 күн бұрын

I wish tarasenko could play on the first line effectively. That would make the second line easy. With cat and kane together. And Raymond and Larkin together on the first.

@user-rw9rs6di9n 22 күн бұрын

@@jackconrad2667 Perron was a menace if he could catch up to other players.

@augustsmith9633 22 күн бұрын

It's easy to sit and there and be negative about the teams current roster and say we are going to regress but players like Taresenko and Kane didnt sign with us to be content with mediocrity and regression. Also Edvinson is a top 10 draft pick and has the talent to shoulder big minutes and play with the best so while he may not be Seider and have the experience, he is good enough to be a top pair. So yes Brad he's playing against those top players; he is that talented.