How Endless Eight Became one of the Most Hated Arcs in Anime History

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god, this video took forever didn't it. I started it shortly after my R;N review thinking it'd be like, 20 minutes long--25 tops. ...and then it was nearly 40 lol
I was really hoping to get this out closer to the release of the Intuition of Haruhi Suzumiya, but, well, obviously that didn't happen. Speedy editing isn't one of my strong suits, alas.
Tell you what else really didn't help the already pretty long time this video took to make was the fact that in late October, power was out for pretty much all of central Oklahoma for nearly 2 weeks. I was one of the people who got theirs back quicker, and it was still out for 5 whole days for me. It was wild.
In any case, despite the wait time for it, I hope you enjoy this video. I worked really hard on it!
Fun Fact: the post that timecrowaves reads was actually a post by them!! A lovely full circle moment, haha.
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Here's the videos seen throughout the video:
Hare Hare Yukai at Anime Expo 2007: • Video
Former Kyo-Ani Director Yamamoto puts the Haruhi Season 2 Endless Eight Arc in his own words: • Former Kyo-Ani Directo...
SacAnime 2012 - BLEACH Voice Actor Panel Part 2 (Johnny Yong Bosch, Michelle Ruff): • SacAnime 2012 - BLEACH...
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and also, thanks to Steiner (@DistantValhalla) for translating that little nugget about Endless Eight's sales for me. Fun fact: he also translated the manga I mention at the end, My Dad's the Queen of All VTubers?!
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@_vulcanide 3 жыл бұрын

I remember people making posters and t-shirts saying "i survived endless eight"

@jyojitsukikage4508 3 жыл бұрын

Someone should bring that back lol

@Totaraum 3 жыл бұрын

I bought one of those a few months back haha

@dawnwayfinder 3 жыл бұрын

@@jyojitsukikage4508 Maybe updated to "I survived the Endless Eight and 2020!".

@yareyarejose5080 3 жыл бұрын

@jenny moe god i feel so old

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 3 жыл бұрын

It is a work of art in the purest sense of the word. Some artist hold their performances in museum. They aired it on TV.

@MrRemicas 3 жыл бұрын

"Endless Eight is either a stroke of genius or a waste of time" I was there. It's both.

@cordyceps7531 3 жыл бұрын

A genius waste of time

@DecimusYna 3 жыл бұрын

Man, it is the longest short season I've ever watch.

@kage6613 3 жыл бұрын

Bingo

@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын

A stroke of genius in wasting time

@judahosborne8868 3 жыл бұрын

You're completely right

@Kenfusi0n 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine how yuki felt she experienced it 15,500 times while we we experienced it 8 times

@valk5041 3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly why the disappearance movie happened

@ivanyashirperezalvarado6101 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, a man of culture...

@quelquun5933 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU !

@choykujo1696 2 жыл бұрын

I think that is the message they want to send to us

@Burn_Angel 2 жыл бұрын

Heh. HEH. Man, you should watch Higurashi. I'ts literally the same idea, but as a horror/drama/murder mistery anime instead. And it's awesome. The SN is awesome too. The anime aired around the same time Haruhi's anime aired. And funnily enough, it also got new entries recently, Higurashi Gou and Higurashi Sotsu. I have yet to watch Sotsu though.

@whitetrash8613 Жыл бұрын

I feel like the problem wasn't the repetition; it was the wait. In this binge-watching age, I feel like releasing all 8 of them at once would be better received as an artistic, risky, move. Releasing them weekly is straight up stupid, maddening, a bad move.

@Ranixo286 4 ай бұрын

They didn't though, at least not in Japan. Haruhi was out of chronological order in its broadcast, so there wouldn't be 8 endless 8s for 8 weeks.

@burpbot7555 4 ай бұрын

@@Ranixo286Haruhi's first season was out of chronological order. S2 ran all 8 E8 episodes in order. And they were 8/14 episodes, so they ruined the season anyway.

@josefinaz6834 4 ай бұрын

I think if they were binged, though, then the real-life effect of the time loop (as mentioned in the quote under "epilogue") would have been lost. I still don't think it should have been a full eight weeks, but four weeks at least would have been effective at driving the point home, and you can only do that in broadcasting, not in binge consuming. There are a lot of shows that lose something when binged versus broadcasted. There are shows that also gain something when binged versus broadcasted, but I think people forget that there is a significant benefit to drip-feeding the audience weekly.

@j.b.5422 3 ай бұрын

I wouldve hated it euther way@@josefinaz6834

@lite4998 17 күн бұрын

I just binged them all. It was still awful. I am dropping the anime and review bombing it.

@NaramSinofAkkad790 3 жыл бұрын

The voice actors begging to be allowed to do anything different is so sad.

@luigirock96 3 жыл бұрын

I am guessing the managment is trying to make sure another ghost stories dub wont get out.

@Radien 3 жыл бұрын

@@luigirock96 But the Ghost Stories dub was legendary. Of course, it makes sense that they wouldn't want that to happen with (what used to be) a big name series like Haruhi. With Ghost Stories it was a very different situation. The Japanese studio KNEW they were signing over a dud, so they named virtually no requirements for the nature of the localization.

@wuvumgywgy 3 жыл бұрын

@@Radien ghost stories dubbed is so garbage i have no clue where to begin

@mysticalhero2460 3 жыл бұрын

@@wuvumgywgy wtf ghost stories dub is a work of art

@Yazanico 3 жыл бұрын

That's the part that still gets to me. I would shrug it off but this is just abuse.

@RagingHamster 3 жыл бұрын

i marathoned endless 8 when i was sick. literally saw it with 104 degrees fever. i achieved enlightenment

@endahp6192 3 жыл бұрын

Did u saw God?

@RagingHamster 3 жыл бұрын

@@endahp6192 no but i solved Gödel's incompleteness theorem

@endahp6192 3 жыл бұрын

@@RagingHamster im glad

@vedal1358 3 жыл бұрын

Huh. I marathoned Endless 8 and ended up feeling sick.

@angelalafond5303 3 жыл бұрын

I got sick after watching it. I binged it the whole time. Quit immediately after this arch and can't watch it with out a migraine now. I don't know why. My brain just said no more.

@_prelude 2 жыл бұрын

I think the true unsung heroes of endless 8 are the people who were tasked to animate 8 different versions of what is basically the same thing for months. People praise the directors and the writers for this decision but if watching the same episode 8 times was already enough of a drag, imagine having to _animate_ the same lines and activities over and over and over again. Holy shit. Keep on trucking, Kyoani.

@negispringfield6156 2 ай бұрын

Sadly most of them are dead now 😢

@AMVhuntingSyndrom 2 жыл бұрын

Endless Eight is a brilliant case-study for anyone that wants to learn more about directing, tone-setting and visual styling in anime and other media. You get 8 episodes of the same stuff, but every episode has a different mood to it. Its brilliant. However for the average anime watcher its a waste of time.

@zomegaexalpha4708 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I cannot blame anyone for hating this arc or finding it a waste of time

@formula31 2 жыл бұрын

@@zomegaexalpha4708 its the most genious waste of time ever. the directing job to every episode is different in feel and gives more insight but its still the same episode 8 times and you dont really miss anything by skipping like 80% of it still love it though

@jaylanford6098 2 жыл бұрын

@@formula31 What did it give more insight to? I didn’t hate the arc but I didn’t really get it tbh.

@StormSnake0618 2 жыл бұрын

"The average anime watcher" I can just smell the pretentiousness lmao. This arc would have been fine if it was half its length, I even agree that the cute summer vacation turned cosmic horror is cool at first, but 8 episodes of the SAME. DAMN. THING. is too much. It's a massive waste of time b/c it overstays its welcome, interesting premise aside.

@cnlbenmc 2 жыл бұрын

Hell Higurashi does Looping FAR better than Endless 8 probably because the entire franchise was built around the concept and the different arcs are so different and well different genre. In Haruhi this was just done in the most obnoxious way possible.

@dmwanderer9454 3 жыл бұрын

I survived the Endless Eight. Sure pops, now let's get you back to bed.

@loonation2185 3 жыл бұрын

hehe

@TheKing60210 3 жыл бұрын

This is beautiful, it remidns me of the Spongebob episode where Mr. Krabs has that boy scout guide he walked him into his room lmao

@rafagd 3 жыл бұрын

I think I survived it, and died right after it

@dmwanderer9454 3 жыл бұрын

@@rafagd watched all eight back to back on KZfaq (Back before copyright was a concern.)

@Drakorre 3 жыл бұрын

I Remember watching It for the First Time. At First i was like :damn they Just repeated an episode once? That's Genius from plot wise" then they repeated It 7 more times

@cestalia 3 жыл бұрын

Anime: only has 14 episodes. "Let's repeat 8 episodes lmao".

@ikengaspirit3063 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@mr.stuffdoer8483 3 жыл бұрын

ReZero season 2: *Observe the endless loop*

@argeelor3804 3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 well at least they change major stuff. endless eight was literally the same episode

@arionahall2731 3 жыл бұрын

Rofl The gall

@hitkid2456 3 жыл бұрын

@Stein Light ARC SKIPPERRRR

@LyingTube 2 жыл бұрын

I'd be harsher on the arc if it were Literally the same episode eight times, but the fact that they had to re-record dialogue and re-animate every scene for each episode really elevated it in my opinion. It put the audience themselves inside the same time loop as the characters, a rarity in time loop stories that allowed us to feel the same despair and desperation. However, by the same token, this meant that it ultimately became almost a form of torture, and at best was simply... boring.

@apollo1694 Жыл бұрын

I would have committed war crimes if it was the exact same episode

@TwilightWolf032 Жыл бұрын

I remember going through it when it came out, and boy, I don't care how much time and effort they had put into making each episode from scratch and rerecording every line of dialogue, that was such a drag to go through, and the anticipation that it would finally end this week, only for it to be just another loop without a conclusion, over and over again felt like a chore more than anything. And when it FINALLY ended, I didn't feel accomplished or happy for the characters, nor hyped for the following week. I just felt empty. Endless Eight had killed the hype for the next episode after it reached its conclusion. It was so bad, I don't remember anything that happened in S2 aside from Endless Eight...

@night1952 11 ай бұрын

@@TwilightWolf032 Yup, I was watching weekly back then and 3 episodes in I dropped it until the final episode of the loop aired.

@TwilightWolf032 11 ай бұрын

@@night1952 You were the saner of the two of us.

@astrothelad 11 ай бұрын

I don't get it because for people who aren't into anime taking big swings there are a million boring by-the-book anime out there that will surely delight them with new throwaway monsters of the week or whatever. The real tragedy would have been KyoAni not taking any real chances and just cashing in on the S1 hype. Bet all the chronological viewers and MAL voters would have loved that dark timeline.

@niceperson180 Жыл бұрын

I remember when the Endless Eight was airing I was only 10. We'd loved the first season so my dad would watch bootlegs with us as soon as he could get them. I remember being absolutely dumbfounded at how long it went, but getting so invested in cstching what the differences were. We even figured out it was the homework!!! I can still remember to this day when she did that heel turn we literally jumped off the couch and started cheering and hugging each other. What an unreal commitment to a bit, I loved it so much

@esbendit 3 жыл бұрын

Endless 8 is not the ultimate troll, that would be having made 9 episodes.

@PigBoy99 3 жыл бұрын

9 episodes in 2009? Can’t top the film titled 9 that released 9/09/2009

@Account.for.Comment 3 жыл бұрын

No, it is simple a fucking waste of time.

@HenchmenNo616 3 жыл бұрын

* meanwhile in an alternate timeline! * "What a waste of 9 episodes!"

@dawnwayfinder 3 жыл бұрын

@@Account.for.Comment OP never said it was good, just the idea of subverting expectations is amusing.

@Account.for.Comment 3 жыл бұрын

@@dawnwayfinder I am refuting the assertion that it is amusing or a successful troll.

@TK0921 3 жыл бұрын

As somebody that's never watched Haruhi, Endless Eight sounds like a really interesting idea on paper that does not surprise me at all would make an absolutely miserable viewing experience in practice.

@boganborn 3 жыл бұрын

Ur spoiling urs3lf

@Neiroe 3 жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed watching it. Even on its own, it's a solid episode that I don't mind revisiting. Going through it all in one sitting is probably not as fun though.

@kiwimarshall3937 3 жыл бұрын

@@boganborn Why tf would you spell like that

@mattontop 3 жыл бұрын

@@boganborn i just got a stroke

@winteriris13 3 жыл бұрын

same, the idea of a time loop spanning across different episodes would be interesting but only if there was enough change to make a whole different episode about it. they could have fixed this if the loop wasn't the full episode and possibly happen twice or something to really show that to the audience watching the one episode, and the eight episode thing is obsurd, anything more than two episodes for something like this feels like way too much for a series with 14 episodes however after all of this, i am probably going to try and find this just because time loops and other time shenanigans alike are super interesting to me and have so much potential to be really interesting

@LilyLewis771 3 жыл бұрын

Endless eight could only be acceptable in a binge-watching format, where you have time to spot all the differences and can fast forward or just skip to the eighth episode. Week by week it would be excruciating. Heck, even three episodes of that would be too many, I have no idea how EIGHT could have possibly seemed like a good idea.

@justinhabelkiswanto8357 2 жыл бұрын

i can tell you no it isn't, imagine wanting to binge watch and you realize, its a fucking waste of time, no no no

@RetepAdam Жыл бұрын

Binge-watching it, as I just did, wasn’t all that bad. I definitely lost steam after three, but it wasn’t horrendous - just overstayed its welcome. But watching one episode and then waiting a week, knowing you’d be doing this for the next two months? I would simply stop watching.

@ivansoto9723 Жыл бұрын

@@RetepAdam How much time y'all got to waste watching the same thing over and over? Because I don't fuck with that. Endless eight is the same exact episodes, different skins. I'm not just watching to be entertained, I'm watching with the expectation that what I'm watching is actually GOOD and worth my time. Think of how much content we could get in place of endless eight? Even without endless eight, the entire episodic series is very mid. I don't get what people see in the show. All I ever saw was ruined potential and mixed feelings, most of them negative. Every character is just an archetype and hardly anything more. Except Haruhi, the extra spicy Tsundere who's just an asshole to everyone.

@DeadlyLazer Жыл бұрын

I also binged all 8 episodes. Well, when I say "binged" I mean "watched the first 3 episodes then when I caught on to what was happening I just left it in the background while I did other stuff." And I gotta say, that moment when Kyon FINALLY steps out and screams at Haruhi, that felt absolutely amazing. Compounded by the frustration from the previous few episodes that had the exact same moment where Kyon nearly does something but ultimately doesn't. I saw people say that they recommend new viewers just watch the first and last episode. The problem with that is that would immediately spoil to the new viewer the surprise of the endless loop, and it would also rob them of that feeling of pure satisfaction when Kyon finally does something.

@reynaldirico2217 Жыл бұрын

@@DeadlyLazer I just watched 3 of them and man I am this close to wanting to scream at kyon "JUST FUCKING ASK HER WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO DO?" 😂

@asdfghjkl2261 10 ай бұрын

The real tragedy of Endless Eight is that they missed the chance to animate Snowy Mountain Syndrome, a much more interesting short story that was in the same volume as EE. It takes place after Disappearance chronologically, but it would've been fully understandable despite that, and it's not like the directors actually cared about showing events in order anyway.

@frauleinzuckerguss1906 3 жыл бұрын

*Me who's never heard of or watched this anime:* "Ah yes, I should watch this video about an arc I know nothing about."

@jjba3571 3 жыл бұрын

Is actually cool, watch first season, then second but ignored 6 episodes of endless 8, watch the first and the last of endless 8.... and watch the movie IS COOOOOL, the movie is amazing

@urieltovar753 3 жыл бұрын

They would actually have to watch the first, second and eight episode of endless eight since it's until the second episode that they realize that they're on a time loop

@Azure70 3 жыл бұрын

It's way better than actually watching it. Trust me.

@ciello___8307 3 жыл бұрын

if you wanna watch it, the best thing is to watch Endless Eights 1, 2, 4, and then 8. Endless Eigth #4 has some really beautiful shots and transitions

@swatipatki7047 3 жыл бұрын

Who want season 3 ?

@WingedVlog444 3 жыл бұрын

Repeating day arc? Show it from each person's perspective.

@Nadia1989 3 жыл бұрын

No thanks, Wolf's Rain did that and it sucked

@professionalfangster1510 3 жыл бұрын

Weren't there only 6 people in the S.O.S. Brigade?

@WingedVlog444 3 жыл бұрын

@@professionalfangster1510 Then you have 6 episodes be the same, 7th episode run the different version that breaks the cycle, and then an 8th one to show the next day.

@maximusstorm1215 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nadia1989 Anime often does things where it shows you the same story from different perspectives and it's often interesting. Wolf rain just must be not very good.

@crayolaclouds2696 3 жыл бұрын

@@maximusstorm1215 It was a good anime, the "repeating day" thing was an important point to let you get connected to each character and see how they met. It wasn't that bad, I personally enjoyed the show.

@gerardp4759 3 жыл бұрын

Binge watchers today just don't understand how frustrating this was to watch. You would wait a whole WEEK to find out that the arc hadn't ended. Imagine if HBO had done something similar w/GOT or some other popular weekly streaming series. Fans would've burned buildings to the ground!

@JJ18355 2 жыл бұрын

Well, KyoAni got theirs burned too. Just a few years late, though.

@aymuhspunj 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, hope somebody actually does another Endless 8 bit on their weekly tv show now. No warnings, no explanation. Just happens.

@JeffDvrx 2 жыл бұрын

I don't get how anyone could have expected anything BUT eight episodes after episode 3. If they didn't end it in episode 3, they would go and make it 8. It's in the name 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Cat_Garfield 2 жыл бұрын

That's why we're winners

@Kogami Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I once thought "why not just skip those unnecessary episodes when binging?" but then I realize that's not an option when watching it live on a weekly basis lol. It's one of those things where you have to be there to understand even more of the pain

@CHEFPKR 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly thought I missed episodes. Since, back in the day, we had to watch it on questionable sites I thought there was something wrong with the uploads. I wish it were something wrong with the uploads.

@Thelostboots 3 жыл бұрын

Same here! I skipped half of this arc and assumed that the uploader messed it up. I didn’t realize it until years later.

@Jesus_Zendejas 3 жыл бұрын

Same and I saw it on Funimation. I was like didn't I saw this already until I skipped around and coincidentally skip to new scenes in the second episode.

@phoenixfritzinger9185 3 жыл бұрын

They should have thrown in one “It’s Not Unusual” to break it up

@TerribleTrioProductions 3 жыл бұрын

And that, my friends, is when the arc went from good to great.

@landlinemclandmine 3 жыл бұрын

@@TerribleTrioProductions and a sigh of relief went through the anime fandom

@RetepAdam 3 жыл бұрын

And then... when they went back to Endless Eight..

@badboyluvr 3 жыл бұрын

WHOM WHOM! WHAT'S NEW PUSSYCAT!

@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE IT

@rjd-kh8et 3 жыл бұрын

I'm less angry and more impressed at KyoAni's dedication to trolling. They re-recorded and re-animated every episode from scratch; Endless Eight must be the most expensive prank ever.

@renderedjunk7146 3 жыл бұрын

And also the most pointless.

@skywatcher458 3 жыл бұрын

@@renderedjunk7146 idunno pranking someone with unsharpened pencil would be pointless as well 👀

@LuigiTheMetal64 2 жыл бұрын

The Endless Eight is still terrible.

@EpicB 2 жыл бұрын

@Wholesome Convos Only Given that spinning off the Disappearance arc into a movie was what let them do Endless Eight like this in the first place, are there any story arcs that would have been worth adapting if they did a more condensed version of Endless Eight? I'm not familiar with Haruhi so I wouldn't know. 3 episodes does seem like a reasonable length for a condensed version of Endless Eight though.

@TheGaymos 2 жыл бұрын

Based

@AbsolBlogsPokemon 2 жыл бұрын

Watched Haruhi for the first time in 2014 and loved the Endless Eight, blissfully ignorant of the all the insanity surrounding it, and this video has been incredible detailing all of the history behind it. I can't imagine how different my perception of it would've been if I was eagerly watching it week-by-week after waiting years for it.

@Notdovp777 2 жыл бұрын

Im subd to the channel absol

@mamaharumi 2 жыл бұрын

I would have hated it if I was watching it as a seasonal and I really don't think they needed a full 8 episodes to get the same effect. Still a cool watch after the fact.

@diegoxavier9107 Жыл бұрын

@@mamaharumi it's even more special when you realize the show was broadcasted out of chronological order, but the Endless Eight still aired back-to-back

@SWProductions100 Жыл бұрын

@@diegoxavier9107 Oh...oh no 😨...

@TwilightWolf032 Жыл бұрын

I was there when it happened, watching it week by week... Endless Eight killed the hype for the following episodes so hard for me, I can't even remember what happened after it was over, even though I can recall vividly the first season and the spin-offs without any trouble.

@JaitsuStudios 9 ай бұрын

As a trolling attempt, its masterclass. As a business decision? Whoever made that decision should've been fired.

@The_Phoenix_Saga 3 ай бұрын

Fired and blacklisted from EVER getting a job in that area of industry again.

@EvoxityMMO 2 ай бұрын

@@The_Phoenix_Saga Considering what happened to the studio this reply leaves a distasteful print, us casual watcher don't always know specifically who was affected that day but this could be a reply that's just heartless in my opinion

@lite4998 17 күн бұрын

@@EvoxityMMO It's true though.

@EvoxityMMO 17 күн бұрын

@@lite4998 I don't think you know about what happened with that studio, a hateful fan took it to himself to arson attempt to burn it down. yall going "whoever did this whole episode repeats over and over" should be blacklisted and never work in anime again, when they couldve very well died that day, is fucked to think with that mindset if you're aware of the events.

@EvoxityMMO 17 күн бұрын

@@lite4998 and when i say "when they couldve" it's because i genuinely dont know for a fact if they did or didnt that day.

@blondemutant5731 3 жыл бұрын

I think that if they allowed the English dub voice actors to swap roles or do funny voices instead of keeping it the same, it would have went down as another ghost stories.

@tannertadlock7741 3 жыл бұрын

Let Kyon and Koizumi to swap rules for one episode, and let the girls all move roles in a circle for three episodes until they're back to normal.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 3 жыл бұрын

VA's doing the episodes as past characters they've done, episodes randomly taking a Chicago gangster feel, there was so many ways it could have been saved.

@peterang78 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there’s a abridged series of this Anime?

@f1r3hunt3rz5 3 жыл бұрын

@@peterang78 Yes, there is. Now that you remind me of it, Imma rewatch it again real quick.

@omarmansuri7099 3 жыл бұрын

Well it sure would have sitting through them a lot more tolerable

@Arcxzal 3 жыл бұрын

man hearing this without actually experiencing this makes this so much funnier lmao

@AdmiralMug 3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't. Trust me.

@SlavoidUkr 3 жыл бұрын

Same, I heard about this drama before, but wow

@AdmiralMug 3 жыл бұрын

@Eric Lee True, true. Even I can look back and have a nice chuckle about how mad we all got.

@hitkid2456 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't actually watch the show. I started, but eh. I did watch Nyoron Churuya-san tho!

@jjba3571 3 жыл бұрын

It wasnt !!!! Imaging waiting a WHOLE week to wacth your favorite anime to watch same episode AGAIN, whoeever was after thia dessition was dumb, if only they change stuffs so fans could enjoynthat but NOOOOO

@chiyo-chanholocaust8143 3 жыл бұрын

This is pretty hilarious from an outsider's point of view. That said I can't imagine the frustation it must have been to sit through 8 weeks of this, still funny though

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer Жыл бұрын

I watched it after it released but it's still painful when you binge to watch essentially the same 30 minutes eight times.

@ringrang8302 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly really fucking adore this idea when I consider it completely divorced from the state of the show at the time. Like releasing eight episodes that are all nearly identical to each other just to really drive in that the cast is in a timeloop? It's so big brained and honestly funny as hell. But when you consider that they were released once per week over the course of a few months and were contained in a season just less than half the length of the endless eight arc that fans were waiting two years for? That seems pretty cruel and I can see why fans would be angry about that. I definitely know if I were watching the show live at that time I would have been really mad at pretty much anyone responsible for the move lmfao

@BlueSatoshi 3 жыл бұрын

It should've been 3 episodes tops: The original loop, the first time they became aware of the loop, and the conclusion.

@beyondtrash1627 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely think that would've been the best way to do it.

@OseiTheWarriors 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jequirity1 3 жыл бұрын

Might be able to stretch it out into four if you add a couple more plot points. First the og loop, second is becoming aware of it and major confusion, third is working to get out of the loop and maybe a plot twist reveal, and fourth is the big conclusion. Again, only works if you have enough material to do that.

@anki_yt 3 жыл бұрын

Yep. The 1st loop. 2nd loop where he fails. 3rd loop where he succeeds.

@gfmhd1280 3 жыл бұрын

Cringe.

@atticusshadowmore3263 3 жыл бұрын

Just imagine if after the arc ended, they had a normal new episode and then another endless eight

@nonamenotrace4333 3 жыл бұрын

I would have wept

@Balloon410 3 жыл бұрын

@Sphingidae that's exactly what came to my mind. Just one "It's Not Unusual".

@tomjack1000000 3 жыл бұрын

Evil, actual evil.

@swatipatki7047 3 жыл бұрын

Who want season 3 ?

@Commenter839 3 жыл бұрын

@@swatipatki7047 I'd only want a new season if it's being done by KyoAni. Which let's be real, it probably wouldn't.

@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын

This arc was so infamous that, despite literally never hearing about Melanholy of Haruihi, I _still_ somehow maneged to stumble upon it. I don't even remember _how_ that happened. It must've been due to a passing mention or something.

@FirestormMk3 9 ай бұрын

I would have hated the Endless Eight treatment if they'd saved money on it, but the fact they made a choice to fully animate it really made me back the choice at the time. It really puts you in the headspace of Yuki. Sometimes I think that me and one of my friends were the only two fans who liked it at the time. The rest of my friends no only hated it, but doubled down on the hatred afterwards by saying it's the only reason the series died.

@JablesMF 3 жыл бұрын

Obligatory “I survived Endless 8 and all I got was this lousy t-shirt”

@austinclubb2093 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, you got a t-shirt!

@Shrooblord 3 жыл бұрын

At least you have the shirt!

@DxBlack 3 жыл бұрын

8 t-shirts.....somehow.

@PeaShooterAutoHunter 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Vice City reference

@liamgriffin218 3 жыл бұрын

Except they were out of shirts so all that I got was a meal voucher that didn’t even work.

@WillTheGreatest 3 жыл бұрын

So essentially it's like john mulaney salt n pepper diner story but for the haruhi fandom. Well at least we have the disappearance movie

@jacobs.9661 3 жыл бұрын

There's something about comparing Haruhi to a John Mulaney story that makes me LOL.

@DarkestElemental616 3 жыл бұрын

Aww you beat me to it. "So then you think Endless Eight is over, right? It isn't. There's more."

@dingousoop64 3 жыл бұрын

"BWAAHHHH WHATS NEW PUSSYCAT?"

@pluvia33 3 жыл бұрын

While the repetition of that song is probably worse all at once, "What's New Pussycat" by Tom Jones is only a little over 2 minutes long so playing that 21 times amounts to the length of only 2 renditions of Endless Eight. ^_^

@rotatingdisc-479 3 жыл бұрын

For years, scientists have wondered if you could make grown men and women cry by playing the sigh arc...

@damoji5332 Жыл бұрын

On one hand, it really immerses you into the time loop. I mean, imagine how Nagato felt after 638 years of that. Plus it shows how hopeless the situation is and really drives home how it's not just a short montage, but years and years of the same 2 weeks. On the other hand, I understand how waiting 2 months for what was (essentially) the same episode over and over would break your love for a series

@SteelSpurs 3 жыл бұрын

I just binged it. I felt like I was slowly going crazy but I felt soooo happy and satisfied when it ended.

@Lawnie 3 жыл бұрын

This sounds like it could have been a really promising idea if they had changed more things between each episode. As is, it sounds so. freaking. annoying.

@Lee-fw5bd 3 жыл бұрын

I like to think that the point was to be annoying

@Lawnie 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lee-fw5bd Thing is, I think it could've been both annoying *and* entertaining. But the way it played out sounds nothing *but* annoying and that's not fun.

@Lee-fw5bd 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lawnie fair enough. I had a good laugh with it but not everyone is me. And I also didn't have any expectations of a fan waiting years or anything.

@arqueiroXD 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lee-fw5bd Is a fun thing for look later...but at time. It probably was hell.

@shorewall 3 жыл бұрын

@@arqueiroXD You don't know how right you are. I was a huge fan at the time, and didn't want to miss a second of the 14 episodes that we were getting. So I felt like I was being waterboarded with each Endless Eight episode. 2, even 3 episodes I could have understood. It's hard to understand waiting a week each time, and watching the whole episode waiting for some progress. I didn't want to skip anything. But I couldn't take it and eventually tapped out. I felt like a bad fan. I eventually googled the season to see what had happened, and found out when the episodes ended, so I could start from the last episode of Endless Eight and watch the rest of the season. To this day, I hate Endless Eight. I like the animations, the content, the day, the interactions, the outfits, everything...except for the fact that it was a repetitive loop, over and over again. I wanted to like it. I did like all the hard work that went into it. But it was a slap in the face that sears to this day. And I can't understand people who like it, except that they are goofy and contrarian. :D Luckily, the movie was everything that we wanted, and was a great finale, so to speak, since we haven't had much since then. I was more than satisfied, which just highlights Endless Eight more, wedged between the great first season and the great movie. We know they can do great things, and even many parts of Endless Eight show that charm. But that makes it worse when you know that they are purposefully holding back, making it worse than it could be, wasting our time and love. I've forgiven the franchise for Endless Eight, but it is still a scar on my heart, and I will never be able to forget it.

@zachanikwano 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the fact that "having a love life" counts as a huge scandal for Japanese/South Korean stars enrages me. The kind of fans who obsess over "being with" someone famous who doesn't even know they exist/let alone date, and send death threats over an individual's freedom to choose and live like an individual pisses me the f*ck off. Grow up, separate fantasy from reality.

@Winter-yt1os 3 жыл бұрын

So basically k-pop stans

@NeoNovastar 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this was one thing that was deeply upsetting to me to hear. I was a kid so I didnt really follow anime super closely, but I did love season 1 of Haruhi and that once dance game a lot. Ended up really getting attatched to Aya Hirano's voice and all, but hearing now that people "disgraced" her for just having a boyfriend? Jesus thats so disgusting. Thats just so so awful. Really cannot stand idol culture or the general ideas of purity surrounding women in society at all.

@nayussysuccer 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'll never get how people actually expect to get with their celeb crush. It's even worse in the kpop fandom. I like Bts and all but I don't wanna date them. I'd be hella happy if they got gfs or bfs just to piss off the little kids who thought they could get with them and cleanse the fandom. I get fantasizing about them (which i still find weird but whatevs) but they gotta learn how to face reality.

@Commenter839 3 жыл бұрын

@@NeoNovastar I think the issue wasn't so much that she had a boyfriend, but that pictures had leaked of her having a gang bang session with her band (minus the drummer), which I think would be even worse for an idol's reputation. Don't get me wrong though, I could not give two shits who a celebrity is dating or fucking behind closed doors. I find it pretty interesting how that sort of thing can impact your entire career in Asia, but in America it's seen as interesting gossip at worst, and at best can boost someone's career.

@professionalfangster1510 3 жыл бұрын

@@bugypad Doesn't excuse sending them death threats.

@Redemption643 Жыл бұрын

I remember when this happened. My naive child brain sat there and watched all 8 episodes hoping that hey maybe the next will have something happen. Oh man the amount of free time I had and my love for anime at the time was the only reason I sat through them. Now it's a badge of.... honor? Something.

@Wayneisboss 3 жыл бұрын

Just had to come back and give this video a good rewatch. What a great nosedive into one of the strangest and most fascinating experiences I've seen from an anime. Once again, wonderful work.

@TecDax 3 жыл бұрын

People who believe that Endless Eight was a good idea haven't suffered through it while it was airing.

@jennshine8777 3 жыл бұрын

Or a friend that recommended the anime to you and didn't tell you about it being a loop and lied to you till you skipped ahead LMAO so I kinda feel your pain.

@jellyjilli1004 3 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that in theory I think it is a clever idea and I was not mad at it only because I could skip it until the torture ended. That being said, it was still a very stupid idea. 8 weeks of the same thing?? Of course people would be mad!

@lordflufffluff 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly love the endless eight. It got me to stop procrastinating with my homework.

@TheLastSheikah 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I first watched Haruhi years afterwards, knowing that Endless Eight was a thing, and knowing which episode to skip to if I got sick of it, and I thought it was great. But I imagine having no choice and just having it dropped on you would be crap.

@ThisIsABadIdeaSrsly 3 жыл бұрын

It was a good idea for the people animating it I suppose. Less effort, less money spent, even if money and time were not really a problem for them thanks to the massive success of the anime... and massive patience their audience had.

@ArtistTheArtist05 3 жыл бұрын

"I need her glompness" people talked like that this is a thing someone said

@monochromedream-eatingbaku 3 жыл бұрын

That's just how it was, I suppose.

@KingOfGaymes 3 жыл бұрын

I thank the universe for having me barely miss that dark time

@GELTONZ 3 жыл бұрын

@@KingOfGaymes ...is it bad that I actually miss that bygone era of absolute overwhelming cringe? There's a certain...beautifully oblivious innocence to saying something THAT stupid.

@sadowheart7620 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah man Highschool glompin was I strange time

@0o0Zero0o0 3 жыл бұрын

Today all they talk about is boing boing but man do i miss them glomp days.

@omikronsigma2446 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the next video, I think this is the third time I've come back to this vid hoping there was another upload to the channel

@jozajab6849 Жыл бұрын

Now I want to watch this show. The idea behind it is almost brilliant, and having it be completely revoiced and reanimated every time makes it really interesting as an art piece.

@thekillersandvich1150 3 жыл бұрын

its still such a shame that alot of poeple who made this show died in the kyoani fire rest in peace never forget

@augustuzmoon3814 3 жыл бұрын

God: This will teach you to fucking make endless 8!

@darkestccino5405 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's actually really sad that it ended that way.

@ravenpreston1032 3 жыл бұрын

RedBard should do a video on that

@wilmagregg3131 3 жыл бұрын

@@darkestccino5405 what makes it less sad is the studio learned literally nothing and once back togther went right back to doing shittey things which wow just wow i guess the actual people making the horrible descions wernt in the fire which is fing sad bad people always seem to get away with it while innocent suffer for there actions

@wilmagregg3131 3 жыл бұрын

@@ravenpreston1032 id rather her not its really not that intresting just another case of a isolated hermit getting to attached to a character and going out on a rampage it really was so sterotypical

@tonyramirez5707 3 жыл бұрын

Love it or hate it. Props to this anime for making the words “I haven’t finished my homework” be some of the most powerful, epic, and relieving words I have heard in the history of anime.

@nikolaitheundying 3 жыл бұрын

I don't get it, were they literally subjected to this because one fucker didn't want to admit he didn't do his homework?

@Tinky11221 3 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaitheundying No haha. In Japan the students are given homework to do in the summer, the studious and responsible ones, like Haruhi, do them all in the first days of vacations while some try to cram them all in the day before school starts again. The time loop happened because Haruhi had some desire she wanted to be fulfilled despite relieving that last day of vacation countless times, and at the last second Kyon discovered that it what she wanted was to experience doing homework in the summer with her classmates. So it's not that Kyon didn't want to admit that he didn't do his homework, just that admitting was the hidden desire of Haruhi.

@nikolaitheundying 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tinky11221 Why didn't she just say so then? Could have saved everyone 1000 time loops if she just said "Can we do our homework together?"

@Tinky11221 3 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaitheundying Because Haruhi didn't realize herself she had this desire, as she always finished homework alone in the first days of vacations instead of cramming with her friends in the last day.

@MiyaMam948 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tinky11221 mmmm sounds kinda dumb Is it better in context or is it still as dumb and contrived as it sounds

@Flabby555 2 жыл бұрын

2:05: How Endless Eight Became one of the Most Hated Arcs in Anime History 10:36: While Endless Eight Aired 24:12: After Endless Eight Aired 35:16: Epilogue

@scarlet7960 2 жыл бұрын

I love this arc so much, imagine being the voice actors or animators and being told "nice job now do that 7 more times"

@orektez 3 жыл бұрын

i went through a personal hell with these, cracked a tooth, the same week i had a wisdom tooth removed, while dealing with the amount of pain and dizzyness from meds i tripped and twisted my ankle and i couldn't walk or speak after, my mom felt bad and put in one of my dvd's which happened to be these episodes, i was in so much pain i wasn't really concerned what was playing on the tv and tried to sleep through it, i'd wake up every hour in pain, then see an episode, drift back to sleep to wake up in pain and see the same or a similar episode, over and over and over again.

@CoRLex-jh5vx 3 жыл бұрын

Did-did you just straight up go to hell and not notice???

@thewhiteeagle8891 3 жыл бұрын

👀 you thought the anime characters were in a time loop, except they weren't, you were. And you survived

@TheoCynical 3 жыл бұрын

...sounds tramatizing.

@hitkid2456 3 жыл бұрын

I had a pretty weird experience just involving watching anime. I remember one of the times I tried and failed to watch Kaiji... I was going to sleep, but kept trying to stay up long enough to watch more, and eventually it got to the point where I thought I remembered watching more, but I really didn't, and I think I tried to watch more after I got up. Things in my head and what was on screen obviously didn't line up. It was a really weird experience, probably involving hallucination.

@renenoe3064 3 жыл бұрын

looks like a good beginning to start a horror or thriller film, lol

@B0TFrosty 3 жыл бұрын

The artists' mental health probably went to the bottom of the pit having to draw the same damn episode 8 times

@conniethesconnie 2 жыл бұрын

The didn't really draw the same thing 8 times. Each time they changed up outfits and the perspective from which things were done. But they could have saved lots by having the voice actors just record the lines once since those remained almost identical.

@aymuhspunj 2 жыл бұрын

@@conniethesconnie wouldn't be fair to the artists that had to do it different for months. They either found a way to make it fun, or suffer along.

@pumkin610 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps, but they also got to put a very slight spin on each one right? Seems like a very unique opportunity as well but yeah torture.

@Fellow_geto_enjoyer 2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe it's been 1 year since this video

@negispringfield6156 2 ай бұрын

3 years now…

@Fellow_geto_enjoyer 2 ай бұрын

@@negispringfield6156 damn you really gotta make me feel old 🥲

@negispringfield6156 2 ай бұрын

@@Fellow_geto_enjoyer time flies bro I miss my 2018-2020 anime phase

@kevinkite3418 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't skip endless 8. Like a true piece of art, sometimes it's too uncomfortable to see, and that's the whole point.

@doppio_9983 3 жыл бұрын

It sucks because the "Endless Eight" title and alliteration sounds really cool and mysterious

@valletas 3 жыл бұрын

Also the idea of a time loop can be used in really good ways but you have to change it after every loop

@hamlindigoblue9295 3 жыл бұрын

Check out endless nine then 😉

@corneliusmcmuffin3256 3 жыл бұрын

It should have been the forever four

@fanaticaH 3 жыл бұрын

@@valletas I think it's because the time loop wasn't the real problem, but them stretching a short story into 8 episodes. If they did this with other kind of story people would hate it almost the same, being forced to watch a very short story with a lot of filler while wanting them to adapt your favorite arc.

@sinsofthefather 3 жыл бұрын

ikr its a shame

@JPLToyExperience 3 жыл бұрын

I remember watching the endless eight arc in one sitting and it felt like an eternity But it was quite a study of how you spot differences in details and visual style between each episode.

@lizardstep5177 3 жыл бұрын

I also binged it in one watch. I think you have to keep in mind the little details and just live with the moments to enjoy it. Rather than complaining and thinking that it's boring, think of it as eight subtle episodes, in which slight changes are hidden and it's your job to find them and understand the plot.

@br0wnies45 3 жыл бұрын

@@lizardstep5177 if it's boring, it's not enjoyable. I would rather play spot the difference than watch the same episode for 3 hours straight, but I did anyways.

@lizardstep5177 3 жыл бұрын

@J Tayloryeah ik. the people watching when it was airinb must've been furious

@breewashere 3 жыл бұрын

I binge watched the whole series when I was younger and I actually liked this part of the show. Is that weird?

@lizardstep5177 3 жыл бұрын

@@breewashere I don't think so. It is part of the eccentricity of this show~

@sweesbees 2 жыл бұрын

you know who i really feel bad for? those poor overworked animators who basically had to reanimate the same episode and put effort into this worthless troll

@dyeus4464 2 жыл бұрын

When this was aired in the Philippines, I thought our local channel was not able to acquire the next episodes or they have not finished dubbing it (it happened to Tora!Dora! before). The series was aired daily so we don't have to wait that long but I lost patience and stopped watching. Not until a friend told me (he watched the series online 6 months prior) that it was really like that for 8 episodes. 😂😂😂

@hydrangea2969 3 жыл бұрын

This was an entertaining watch and clearly well-researched, but I'm sorry, 30 minutes later and that "HER GLOMPNESS" comment still haunts me

@RedBardIsCool 3 жыл бұрын

good

@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBardIsCool The Endless 8 literally made me despair. What did the creators think? And why is the Light Novel not yet animated yet? It's not like the show has nothinig more to cover left!! When is one of the best anime ever made going to continue? Or is that question not allowed??

@RokuroCarisu 3 жыл бұрын

Ribbit.

@KingOfGaymes 3 жыл бұрын

That physically hurt me

@RokuroCarisu 3 жыл бұрын

@John Ocean Seriously, what the hell are these comments? I get now that there are bots involved, but what's the fuckin' point?!

@CORV3TT33 3 жыл бұрын

i felt REALLY sorry for Yuki, she experienced EVERY LOOP we only got 8...

@casbyness 3 жыл бұрын

Well if you really feel that bad just watch the arc 2,000 times. :)

@CORV3TT33 3 жыл бұрын

@@casbyness yeah ill pass lol.

@pastelberru 3 жыл бұрын

It made me really feel for Yuki!! I fell in love with her because of the second season and film

@CORV3TT33 3 жыл бұрын

@@pastelberru The disappearance of Yuki series made me like Yuki until the show decided not to have an ending...

@simdimdim 3 жыл бұрын

I'm on Haruhi's side on this one, an endless summer is really not that bad xD

@jerrygerald563 3 жыл бұрын

do you have games on yor phone

@IronSheepEngine 3 жыл бұрын

The real tragedy is that switching the voice actors around each episode in the endless eight arc would've probably made this arc a memorable watch (or at least an extremely funny experience).

@ca-ke9493 3 жыл бұрын

That would have been so fun! A hallucination episode right when people were desperate.

@andrewc.7071 3 жыл бұрын

Good thing the novel chapter wasn’t called “endless 1500”.

@anneinspiration1994 3 жыл бұрын

Nah if that had been the name, they wouldn't even try to do it and at least keep it 3-4 episodes. Eight just gave them the wrong idea.

@Nova-yb3gb 3 жыл бұрын

You got me there xD

@kevinkite3418 3 жыл бұрын

Or "Endless December".

@basedturu2320 3 жыл бұрын

will be better if it called endless 888

@TheUltimateNavigator1 3 жыл бұрын

@@anneinspiration1994 r/whoosh

@SackVegasAnime 5 ай бұрын

I couldn’t believe they did this. It’s the most unique arc I ever watched. I was so confused how they got away with it.

@glowstickspinalfluid 4 ай бұрын

this is one of my favorite youtube videos to rewatch. the buildup is just so good, this is just the funniest thing ever

@louckykoneko 3 жыл бұрын

my internet died at the perfect moment in the middle of the "antici.... pation" joke and it took me at least five seconds to realize the video had actually stopped XD

@Radien 3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever watched Council of Geeks? Their video about The Rocky Horror Picture Show starts off with the “shiver with antici-” line, and then it stops for an AD BREAK before you get the “-pation.” Even though I know KZfaq sometimes puts ad breaks right after a video's intro, that one was FAR too exact to have been a coincidence.

@robbybevard8034 3 жыл бұрын

@@Radien TSomeone made a twitter account, posted like 3 RHPS related posts, then made a post with "Antici--"... Then came back FIVE YEARS LATER to deliver the rest.

@RexcorJ 3 жыл бұрын

@@robbybevard8034 *Mother of God...*

@whythehecknot5038 3 жыл бұрын

@@robbybevard8034 this type of dedication is why I love the internet. there's always the storys of people doing this shit and its glorious

@sophiefilo16 3 жыл бұрын

My headphones slipped at that moment, so I thought it just briefly disconnected from my laptop and then reconnected. Didn't even realize it was intentional until I read this...

@bobthebox2993 3 жыл бұрын

I feel very conflicted on the endless eight. On one hand, it really drives the point across of the hopelessness of the situation and makes you feel how unlikely it was for the cycle to end. But on the other hand, it's just the same episode 8 times

@icecreamhero2375 3 жыл бұрын

The ending makes it worth it in my opinion I way dying of laughter.

@vanne-necashionofbread9095 2 жыл бұрын

That's why MONTAGE scenes exists in shows and movies, you don't have to see Dr Strange bargaining to dormammu each time, instead splice in montages with the movie score to imply how much time he have gone through. This is stupidly useless of an arc, however i felt less mad knowing its a troll by the creators (allegedly)

@bobthebox2993 2 жыл бұрын

@@vanne-necashionofbread9095 I'd have preferred to see more cycles in doctor strange to be honest

@vanne-necashionofbread9095 2 жыл бұрын

@@bobthebox2993 why? Each scenes would just be "Dormammu I've come to bargain" *Dr strange dies* Now rinse and repeat

@bobthebox2993 2 жыл бұрын

@@vanne-necashionofbread9095 they were different enough to not be boring to me and I was kind of dissapointed how quickly the segment was over. Not saying it was the wrong choice, I just personally would not have minded

@froakie1404 Жыл бұрын

i think it’s cool that they just decided to completely animate every episode differently with different shots and stuff and I think the idea of the arc is pretty fascinating buuuut on the other hand it’s just the same episode 8 times and I can’t imagine being a fan of this anime when it first dropped seeing this, especially considering it’s such a short part of the light novels

@Skechy3603 Жыл бұрын

Ironic that this hiatus happen after posting about the Endless Eight.

@moonshinei 3 жыл бұрын

Who would've thought that sinking 160+ minutes into an episode that just plays over and over with minimal changes would become cause for hatred?

@dawnwayfinder 3 жыл бұрын

I'm no writer by any means, but I think boredom/apathy is the one emotion you should avoid evoking in the reader/audience.

@Schwartzbruder1 3 жыл бұрын

Its worst when you had to watch it weeky

@dcresistance 3 жыл бұрын

It'd not "minimal changes". The directing and animation is different each episode

@MrPF 3 жыл бұрын

A good director could have done an amazing job with this idea An mistery anime were in every episode everything happens the same way, but different, characters talked in a cafe at 6pm? Next episode they talk about a completely different subject at a bar at 6pm and all of it combined works with solving the mystery

@moonshinei 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrPF That's not how the source material was written, however.

@ghosttrain9022 3 жыл бұрын

This is the fifteen thousand, five hundred and twenty-fourth time we've had this conversation.

@slothbaby2104 3 жыл бұрын

Thats what my mom says to me

@Diwasho 3 жыл бұрын

And we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын

The Endless 8 literally made me despair. What did the creators think? And why is the Light Novel not yet animated yet? It's not like the show has nothinig more to cover left!! When is one of the best anime ever made going to continue? Or is that question not allowed??

@poppers7317 3 жыл бұрын

@@slevinchannel7589 are you trying to invoke the feeling of The Endless 8 with constantly repeating the same post? Genius!

@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын

“So... should I leave?” DON’T... please.

@Domskater55 3 жыл бұрын

Great videos, can't wait for the next one. Hope you're doing OK, take care of yourself and family.

@squirtleyujeong 3 жыл бұрын

I remember begging my ex "let's just watch the 1st and last eps" and he absolutely refused, we watched all 8, and afterwards I fully understood the purpose of this arc. It is an amazing story telling technique. To make the audience feel as terribly as the characters... It is not an easy feat 😅 provoking strong emotion is always a win

@clowdy9355 2 жыл бұрын

I think it was a good concept i get the idea and would've probably liked if it was only like 3 episodes. But 8 is too much it.

@squirtleyujeong 2 жыл бұрын

@@clowdy9355 Imagine watching it as it was airing, coming back week after week to the same episode!!! 😭

@clowdy9355 2 жыл бұрын

@@squirtleyujeong lol i did and it was hell

@Warclam 2 жыл бұрын

"provoking strong emotion is always a win" What an odd thing to say. Why would you want to watch something that makes you miserable? Yes, the creator has successful produced an art… but you are now miserable. Which is bad. You have lost.

@jjj8317 Жыл бұрын

Not really, the franchise is dead now lol.

@chaoschannel3428 3 жыл бұрын

Us: "2020 can't get any worse..." 2020: *Neverending Nine*

@Nadia1989 3 жыл бұрын

November: allow me to introduce myself

@momega7189 3 жыл бұрын

OH GOD

@ringkunmori 3 жыл бұрын

TIMELESS TEN

@9o1ybius 3 жыл бұрын

Eternal Eleven

@samt3412 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nadia1989 nonstop no nut november

@mustardhoodie4191 3 жыл бұрын

In a post streaming era, where everyone is used to binge watch entire seasons of everything as if they were full length movies, I think that this way of presenting the storyline would have been very interesting and artistic, and it would invite fans to catch up on the subtleties of every episode and have fun with it, I mean at the end of the day you can watch 8 episodes of anything and be done before dinner no problem, dont touch the remote and let the autoplay do it's thing... BUT FOR A SHOW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRANSMITTED WEEKLY????? Whoever made that decision smoked a fat one. I don't know how they didn't expected that reaction from the fans. GOD that sounds like torture.

@AlmightySmorg 3 жыл бұрын

I still feel like 8 episodes is too long even with streaming, 3 maybe 5 tops but 8 is too much for the same thing with little difference.

@mustardhoodie4191 3 жыл бұрын

@@AlmightySmorg i mean yes im with you, but it at least would work as a cool way of presenting the problem of the arc Im sure most people would just skip some parts, also, because you are totally able to do that in a streaming setting, but i admit that it would be almost as annoying

@graveltheblock5578 3 жыл бұрын

Now imagine having to watch it 15398 times. No skips. No fast forwards. Years worth of the same shit with minor changes each.

@EgnachHelton 3 жыл бұрын

@@graveltheblock5578 Now it's 2200, humanity has colonized Alpha Centauri, but Kyoani is still doing its weekly release of Endless Eight.

@anneinspiration1994 3 жыл бұрын

Well I mean they also originally aired the first season not chronologically so...

@hewholurks921 2 жыл бұрын

Wow no new video every since the Vincent Hearsay I really did like the content of this channel, however I have little sympathy.

@welme23 2 жыл бұрын

The what now? Sympathy for what? I'm a bit in the dark here. Did she stop or get into trouble?

@puellabella3580 2 жыл бұрын

@@welme23 (misspelling to avoid potential blacklisted words) She helped push now proven false narrative that V1nny from V1nesauce was a p3dophile and doubled down instead of apologizing.

@KnakuanaRka 2 жыл бұрын

What happened?

@KaiserMazoku 2 жыл бұрын

@@KnakuanaRka Was part of a false allegation conspiracy against an innocent person

@loliwinxedits6095 3 жыл бұрын

i remember watching endless eight as a 13 year old every evening after school, i kept thinking i was watching the same episode again and again. Crazy thing is, i can't remember anything else of that year other than the same classes over and over again, and i recall telling my parents being 13 was the worst because it went on for at least afew years.

@BillyJamesVA 3 жыл бұрын

Endless Eight...now there's a story arc I haven't heard in a long time. It takes me back to the early days of KZfaq...with Lucky Star fansubs and Linkin Park AMVs.

@questioningespecialy9107 3 жыл бұрын

What's this I hear about Lucy Star fansubs?

@kaduVIII 3 жыл бұрын

my back hurt when you sayed Lucky Star fansubs and Linkin Park AMVs

@RandomTomatoSoup 3 жыл бұрын

Now Lucky Star lives on with Out of Touch Thursdays

@epistarter1136 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who's soon planning to watch haruhi after finishing my next anime, is the endless eight arc something I can just skip to the 9th episode after watching the first/last episode if there's story progression.

@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын

@KapnKrowe 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if we finally got a 2nd season of Panty and Stocking and it's just 13 episodes of the postscript of the last S1 episode repeating with different camera angles and animation styles

@sirapple589 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t you put that evil on me.

@Grgrqr 3 жыл бұрын

We’d better

@x54xHantamachine 3 жыл бұрын

That would be great lmao I was a big fan of s1 but the fact that the tease for season 2 was so obviously a joke makes me want it to actually come out and be totally terrible, as a continuation of that joke

@chess9913 3 жыл бұрын

that would be devastating.

@oscarthecake 2 жыл бұрын

Endless 8 months of no new video 🥲

@LabTech41 4 ай бұрын

Honestly, if you consider the meta-angle of the 8, it's genius: you get to understand how the non-Haruhi characters feel as they awaken to the reality of the loop, and the despair of realizing that events will play out again and again until some method is derived to break the cycle. Ironically, the fanbase were experiencing the entire point of the arc, but were unable to realize that point, and glossing over the fact that the subtle differences were the entire point of the episode's value, because it shows how much variance you can get within what's essentially the same events. The relief people felt when it was over, perfectly mirrored the character's relief when they themselves had broken free. I suppose the producers could've done what Groundhog's Day did and change up the editing so that even though the same events are happening, there's enough difference to make each episode feel significantly different, but it still works tonally... I just think it was too high concept for most viewers.

@royaljanissary4555 3 жыл бұрын

TL;DR : Endless eight is both the dumbest and the most genius thing ever happened in anime

@WonderSparkPuppets1 3 жыл бұрын

It'd be genius if making the fans hate the show was the point, but I doubt that was the plan.

@mr.stuffdoer8483 3 жыл бұрын

@@WonderSparkPuppets1 Making people frustrated was the point, but I think the satisfaction of it ending was more of the point.

@beanstheclown 3 жыл бұрын

@@WonderSparkPuppets1 I don't know. Even from the first season I'm pretty sure the whole point of that anime was to make the most unlikable protagonist possible. Haruhi has absolutely no redeeming qualities and if you watched the actual first 6 episodes in order instead of airing order it would be even more apparent. The endless 8 is just doubling down on seeing how much bullshit otaku will put up with for "fanservice."

@miuletzmitzu6641 3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 There's a limit to everything, there's a point where people get too frustrated and you can ruin your show, which clearly happened with this 2nd season. Like it would also be frustrating to watch basically the same ep 100 times but would you even care about it anymore? You just become too frustrated and annoyed and you drop it. Maybe if they would've done it for like 3 eps it would've worked, but what they did was a HUGE loss and people calling it "genius" only find it funny now years later and have no idea what "genius" means. If ruining your show and annoying fans so much that they drop the show is "genius" then oh boy

@mr.stuffdoer8483 3 жыл бұрын

@@miuletzmitzu6641 I wasn’t the one who called it genius. And also, opinions are a thing which means no debate is actually worth bothering with.

@zoeb3573 3 жыл бұрын

My mind is BLOWN at the idea that the arc in the light novel only lasts one chapter. I know sometimes adaptations have a bad habit of milking small scenes/details from the source material into a much too long and useless subplot, but... that's INSANE. Fun fact: I never finished season 2 because I got so bored during Endless Eight that I needed a break... and then forgot to start watching again to this day. Oops?

@clonezero_RR 3 жыл бұрын

Mostly the same for me, I tried to watch the series again after the 8 but I just lost interest. The movie was nice though.

@shorewall 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had to tap out during Endless Eight as well. I did google the season to see what the hell happened, and managed to pick up where Endless Eight left off. The movie won back my heart, but to this day I hate Endless Eight. :D

@thelucifun4397 3 жыл бұрын

Same as you, but because I watched it so late at night and I was trying to stay awake, I thought I was watching the same episode again and again and I thought I was going crazy.

@hendeyjagger7489 3 жыл бұрын

@@clonezero_RR I skipped around the episodes to see, if anything is changing. It took me until now, to realize that it actually was 8 episodes. I thought it's only 4.

@Hyperversum3 3 жыл бұрын

It's honestly beyond weird. I mean, cool, let's do the Groundhog to Haruhi. Can work. But... why like this? If you change the way the original LN does it, why make it a 8x22 minutes loop of basically the same thing?

@spencer_abrams 5 ай бұрын

Bro. I just finished watching this arc and my mind is blown. They re-scored it, re-storyboarded it, re-animated it, re-voiced it, new character designs, ever-increasing tension, EIGHT FUCKING TIMES. Darker internal monologues, but only hints of the existential terror, peeking through this seemingly perfect, but unnaturally infinite summer. One person knows whats happening and she's not even programmed to try & stop it. All signs point to this one epic thing that Kyon has been putting off.... for 600 years. It's gotta be telling Haruhi "I love you," right? Koizumi mentions it like every time. That's gotta be it. Kyon & Haruhi's relationship is like the central conflict of the show. It's fucking not. For 8 episodes of fully animated television - and 600 years - Kyon has been putting off... doing his homework. BROTHER. IF THAT AINT ME AS FUCK. Honestly - the baseball episode is more of a waste of time than this next-level tone-piece mind-fuck right here. One of the most based arcs in anime history. Yeah I guess you could have done it in endless 5 or Endless 6. But that shit don't alliterate. Endless Eight, baby. Moecucks filtered. Casuals need not apply.

@beeniecat9411 Жыл бұрын

After watching the endless 8 I just watch the first episode and the last episode of the arc as skipping the middle is a rare case of "you didn't miss much" which is a pain in the ass.

@degeneratefest 3 жыл бұрын

I feel bad that I don’t live in a universe where Johnny Yong Bosch’s suggestion actually went through

@unclejohnthezef 3 жыл бұрын

we gotta go through our own Endless 8 until we reach the episode where it worked and we got an actually watchable comedic endless 8

@Anafyral666 3 жыл бұрын

Endless 8 fandub

@unclejohnthezef 3 жыл бұрын

@@Anafyral666 .... i wanna make this happen....

@phoenixfritzinger9185 3 жыл бұрын

“We should throw in one “It’s Not Unusual” in the middle to just shake it up a bit” ~ Johnny Young Bosch and John Mulaney’s friend John

@IronicHavoc 3 жыл бұрын

Reminder that the 4chan discussion surrounding how you could watch every permutation of this arc has been cited in at least one mathematical paper.

@connorbagheri 3 жыл бұрын

Can you hook your boy up with a link to that discussion?

@madot9296 3 жыл бұрын

I remember it being about the resolution of a not yet solved theorem, it was also solved using the first season

@FairArc 3 жыл бұрын

What

@heresy8384 3 жыл бұрын

Tell me more

@sophie2724 3 жыл бұрын

Google superpermutations

@A_Dopamine_Molecule 2 жыл бұрын

Red Bard is just in the middle of an anime timeskip.

@enyayatsentuok7746 10 ай бұрын

I had watched it in 2013 so I don't know if would say the same thing if I had watched it when it was released with week break between each episode, but when I watched it , I was really fascinated by this arc . I didn't even thought about skipping even one episode of the endless eight.. I really liked those episodes and when I re-watched Haruhi I watched all of these episodes again and I liked it the same way I liked it in the first time .. I just felt like that was genius idea to portray to us that felling of the endless summer and see the small changes from episode to episode and that those episodes give us a brief glance at what Yuki Nagato went through.. actually, I even felt that I wanted to know all the variety of things that happened in the worlds that we didn't see.. But I am autistic so actually that makes sense lol

@ayamimori8780 10 ай бұрын

Lol same 😂 I thought I was the only one 😅 🙃

@Nenilein 3 жыл бұрын

I was there. I experienced Endless Eight live. It was glorious. The screams, the tweets, the forum threads and tv tropes discussions. The memes. People slowly but surely losing their minds. For a brief, yet much too long moment in that fateful summer we all were truly. Yuki Nagato.

@classicforreal 3 жыл бұрын

I’m living Endless Eight live right now.

@whythehecknot5038 3 жыл бұрын

@@classicforreal fr life in quarantine feels like endless 800

@kiggerst 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was a horrible experience wating week after week just to get the fricking same episode! But hold on cause i love Yuki Nagato so much. Then Disappereance of Haruhi happened and those weeks of suffering added more to understanding Nagato's character and it broke me when kyon realized it was her doing. It was just really heartbreaking

@WhaleManMan 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine you wake up tomorrow and its 2009,and Endless Eight Ep 1 just aired.

@jinglejangle1533 3 жыл бұрын

HOLLY FUCK I CAN GO OUTSIDE AGAIN, I NEED TO GET MY LIFE TOGHETHER

@slothbaby2104 3 жыл бұрын

Does it reset after 8 years or a day

@Malum09 3 жыл бұрын

You're now trapped in the Endless Eight Yourself

@hugoj.r.8684 3 жыл бұрын

@Sickcrazyneet 3 жыл бұрын

Oh no

@DeadlyLazer Жыл бұрын

Haruhi was an insane story and an insane idea like Endless Eight couldn't have existed in any other show. Looking back at it now it's just an amusing memory and it adds to the insanity of the greater Haruhi story. Remember when that anime had 8 episodes that were exactly the same? Honestly I'm impressed by their dedication to the bit. We're not doing it twice, or 4 times. 8. We're doing it 8 times..

@evanup2326 2 жыл бұрын

Not uploaded for a year

@MapleMilk 3 жыл бұрын

Red Bard's whole channel is basically digging up the ghosts of the Early 2000s anime community Why is nobody else doing this? It's a gold mine

@Nadia1989 3 жыл бұрын

SarahZ is talking about Tumblr history and reviving dead fandoms...

@vovabars1234 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of people do it actually

@MapleMilk 3 жыл бұрын

@@vovabars1234 Gimme some videos. I can't get enough of this

@vovabars1234 3 жыл бұрын

@@MapleMilk kenny lauderdale does something similar, tho it's more like digging up anime relics

@mathmeth5063 3 жыл бұрын

ubnubmaster is doing the same thing but for vocaloids

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 жыл бұрын

The Endless Eight Arc was so frustrating, Yuki gave herself emotions just to express how terrible it was!

@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын

Emergency Patch! XD

@cnlbenmc 3 жыл бұрын

Yes that sums it up so well.

@MeowingCookie_ 3 жыл бұрын

Aaaa I’m so happy to see this back!!

@chuckcrizer 2 жыл бұрын

I loved watching the Endless 8 arc as fast as the subs could post them. It was super fun finding the changes and wondered what would happen next week.

@CCharmanderK 3 жыл бұрын

I was part of a small Lucky Star-based fan community when Endless Eight was airing, and the collective frustration throughout the arc and eventual relief when Kyon broke the loop was one of the greatest community experiences I've ever had as an anime fan. Fact: I didn't watch E8's final episode until it was VERY late at night, around midnight or so. So when Haruhi turned around and went "Huh?", I legitimately screamed so loud that it woke up my family lol.

@zypper7213 3 жыл бұрын

Endless Eight episodes 2-8 were just putting the community through the 7 stages of grief

@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын

O M G XD

@Antasma1 Жыл бұрын

@Kodeb8 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly hearing about Nagaru being hard on himself for taking too long to write made me really sympathetic. He probably has trouble concentrating and needs to motivate himself to write. I'm like that too and it sucks man.

@TheExtrovertedHermit 9 ай бұрын

Dude this whole thing was BRILLIANT! lol They wanted you to feel the despair of what the other members of the SOS brigade felt. And the crazy amount of memes that come from this were priceless! **chef's kiss**

@stevemclovin1566 3 жыл бұрын

Knowing about how anime studios has problems with money, this is the worst kind of flex.

@Penguinmanereikel 3 жыл бұрын

Given the likely context of why they made it, it was probably a better choice. An arc that was supposed to be in the season was turned into a movie, but now they needed something to fill in 8 episodes of the season. Something cheap that wouldn’t take too much time to make.

@12thLevelSithLord 3 жыл бұрын

@@Penguinmanereikel Doing Endless Eight this way might've saved some time, but it would by no means be cheap. The only thing they'd really be saving by doing Endless Eight how they did is scripting time. Since every episode of Endless Eight has different camera angles, clothes, etc they'd still need to spend the same amount of time and money on storyboarding and animation, plus whatever other aspects of production (like VO or sound) they might have chosen to redo, and that's where a lot of the time and most of the money in animation is going to go.

@shorewall 3 жыл бұрын

@@12thLevelSithLord I honestly would rather they cut the season short, and explain that it was going to be in the movie. The movie was so good, and Endless Eight so bad, that this would have been far better than what happened. :D

@Kaimax61 3 жыл бұрын

@@Penguinmanereikel but it wasn't cheap at all, ALL of the animations are NEW, ALL of the voice acting are new. MONEY STILL SPENT.

@miiko7859 3 жыл бұрын

@aprendizmetalero666 Yikes