Can An ULTIMAX Belt Make This Sled Faster?

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5 ай бұрын

My buddy bought this 2020 Skidoo 850 not too long ago and dropped it off to me for a little check up. apparently he was out on the lake with a buddy of his that has the exact same sled and they lined them up and his sled was way faster...so my buddy Kramer called me and said we gotta make this faster lmao 🤣. turns out just by puttin an ULTIMAX XS821 belt on it properly adjused gave this sled the kick in the pants it needed and gained 10mph just in the short test track we have here! I guess the saying is true!! if ya wanna run to the MAX...get an ULTIMAX! thanks to ‪@UltimaxBelts‬ for the xs821! now She DANGLES!! we really appreciate all the support and subscribers to the channel! we're at almost 25k!! amazing 🍻

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@MrJeffyb69 5 ай бұрын

I totally believe the belt made that much of a difference! I put an Ultimax belt on my 2016 ZR8000 137 and it felt like I gained 20 HP over the Gates belt I had on it !! Ultimax is the only belt I will use on all my sleds, thanks Pete 🙂

@dougkeathley9666 5 ай бұрын

Amazing. Keep the videos coming Pete. So much fun watching! CHEERS!!!

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

thank you! cheers 🍻

@donnydenfeld2394 4 ай бұрын

Good morning Pete great sled video. Keep em coming. 🍺🍻 pitter patter git at er.

@tedneitzel 5 ай бұрын

Damn good gains there Pete well done! Take it to the max!

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

cheers 🍻

@scottmente2244 5 ай бұрын

Great video having a cold one in garage we need snow ordered some merchandise from yas this week can't wait to get it thanks for the video

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

thank you! we really appreciate all the support! cheers 🍻

@cricket1043 5 ай бұрын

BRP belts stretch like crazy with use. All I use on my 850 are the XS 821s. With the 150 / 300 factory primary spring and Goodwin 35mm pivot weights with 1.7 gm weights, # for 3 the clicker setting the sled hits 7900 - 7950 constantly and holds there. Love the channel!

@shawnvanvliet9225 5 ай бұрын

Another great video. You have me convinced now! Changing the belts on all my sleds. As soon as you start selling them, I will order some. If you are not busy this weekend, you and Billy and the young lady should head to Evansville to watch the oval track sled racing. It’s a great time, would be some great content for your videos. And the beer is cold!! You can either watch from inside or outside. Hope to see you there. Cheers

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

thank you! yeah it sounds like a good time for sure 🍻 unfortunately the Mrs is workin this weekend and Jim and I gotta get our sleds all back together so we can try and get them out on the ice! we really appreciate all the support and I'll ne sellin the belts very soon! 🍻

@BroBob1254 5 ай бұрын

Nice one! I rode with 3 Ski Doo's last year, all 850's only a year or two old, one guy heard a noise and upon checking it out at the dealer, it had a bad con rod bearing! While at the Dealer there was another guy there that just blew his engine also!

@ryans6014 5 ай бұрын

Man Pete i love the channel!!!! Great info love all the little sayings also. Keep on keeping on.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha thank you! 🍻

@ryans6014 4 ай бұрын

We got snow here in lovely rice Minnesota either. Sunny and 48 today. 2-7 have to take out the old Yamaha tri z for " a rip".

@ryans6014 4 ай бұрын

Sorry no snow

@billdwyer7897 5 ай бұрын

Nice improvement ! Taking that drag out of the track helps too , Nice Work 😎👍🍺🇺🇸🇨🇦

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

thank you! cheers 🍻

@richardmcgaffin5609 5 ай бұрын

Hey Pete I think u just sold me on the Ultimax baby!!! I gotta have one for my Winder now. Nice One!

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha that's awesome! the new XS825's work great on the winders!! 🍻

@kingersgarage 4 ай бұрын

I like the dragy data! Cheers!!

@jacobmay7594 5 ай бұрын

Stock manual says the bottom(valley) of the belt rigs should be at the top of the secondary sheeve.

@matthewjack9950 5 ай бұрын

I want to move to Canada after watching you 😂

@jeffreyhagelin3672 5 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to compare belt temps between the two. But yeah, a compression test might be in order.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

yessir! 🍻

@Gregory-fq2lm 5 ай бұрын

Ultimax for the win on that skidoo

@joelaichner3025 5 ай бұрын

Good Vibrations , Surf Music , Snow Surfing

@RayFMak 5 ай бұрын

Going for a test run makes the best videos ✌🏻 cheers 🍻

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍🍻

@jimc1973 5 ай бұрын

another great video thank you for sharing be safe have a great day and love the videos and God Bless

@Georgebd2 4 ай бұрын

I picked myself up in 18 XRS Renegade with the 850 E-Tec and boy those things are finicky! The plugs follow up pretty easy if you're not careful then they definitely don't like any additives in the fuel! Changing out my first set of plugs already and you have to sequence them because of the injectors! Super important or they'll be garbage in a minute

@brucemacdonald4672 5 ай бұрын

Nice one ! ☃️👍👍

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!🍻

@stevesmith3033 5 ай бұрын

You didn't say tickety boo in this video! I've been walking around the house for a week saying it and even singing it in anticipation of the next video 🤣🤣🤣

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

lmao 🤣 my bad!!! TICKETY BOO!!! 🤣🤪🍻

@pingu324 5 ай бұрын

He did around the 3:16 point when he pulled the first side panel off 😉

@stevesmith3033 5 ай бұрын

@@pingu324 Haha I'm not sure that one counted! It's got to be said with panache and gusto! 😉

@slickmuck4312 5 ай бұрын

Every pass made is also packing down the trail so that helps too. But I will be looking for Ultimax belts for my machines Thanks Pete CHERRS FROM MANITOBA

@Ultimax224 5 ай бұрын

Nice one!

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha she DANGLES!!! 🤣🍻

@strawvillecabin7211 5 ай бұрын

I am sold on Ultimax belts, Everybody likes going to the MAX.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

that's awesome!! cheers 🍻

@haydenrichardp3712 5 ай бұрын

Adjusting the belt deflection should have been done first with the belt that was on it and see how it runs. Then put the new belt on and run it to make a fair comparison. If the belt that came on it was worn out any new belt will show better performance. Even a factory Ski Doo belt. This did not show that the Ultimax belt is superior.

@DLG2112 5 ай бұрын

Exactly I had to scroll down to find somebody that said what I was thinking. or/& put a brand new Ski-Doo one on & than compare them again.

@Upracefan 4 ай бұрын

Deflection has no impact on top speed, that only affects the initial engagement. Ultimax belts are junk on Skidoo’s

@joshgessinger4509 4 ай бұрын

Iv never ran a utimax belt that worked without shimming the primary for proper belt width. That being said a wider belt should make more top end but 10mph seams like a lot. Best fitting after market belt for stock clutch calibrations is the dayco in my experience anyway. Been in the snowmobiling for 36 years im now 45. Iv raced cats for 15 years SX semi and pro. XC pro for my last few years of racing all on the east coast. Many wins and championships i always ran cat belts because i got for free. I do work on sleds for friends and some customers. Iv always recommend the factory belt unless the customer wants me to calibrate clutches for aftermarket belt. But the daco almost always works well with stock calibrations. Myself i do run ulimax now that im not a racer and have to buy belts. That and my turbo sleds make a lot of HP and definitely hold up better.

@b.pur9981 4 ай бұрын

@@UpracefanI don’t want to get into a banter. Because to each their own. I can say that I’ve tried Gates, BRP and Ultimax belts on my 850s, 1200s, 900Ts, 900Rs and finally a Stage 3 900 turbo and the Ultimax was far superior on the 4 strokes, and pretty good on the 2 strokes. Personally, on the 2s I prefer Gates, and the 4s either the BRP or Ultimax and definitely Ultimax on the Stage 3. Tried all different scenarios on them as well.

@jeffreytodaro5269 5 ай бұрын

Awesome brother thanks

@troymodin1682 5 ай бұрын

Didn't think a new belt would make that big a difference. Keep up the great work buddy 👍 RNDH 4 LIFE..

@ericking9767 5 ай бұрын

25k SUBS...so close...LET'S GO PEOPLE

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

so close!! 🍻 you guys are awesome!!!

@chrisurquhart8760 5 ай бұрын

I had to do an extensive clutch alignment on mine. I was blowing belts like crazy. Grip n Rip racing products. Watch the videos and buy tools. Went from blowing belts to 2 yrs on the same belt.

@johnross2626 5 ай бұрын

I know guys use to float the secondary on the older Revs to help with blowing belts. Now sure if it's available for the newer sleds. My 900r seems good on belts.

@chrisurquhart8760 5 ай бұрын

@johnross2626 it has to do with the way the clutches are oriented now and the rubber engine mounts used to isolate vibration. So I'm told. It's been an issue with the early gen 4's but remedied on the newer machines. I fixed mine for ever and bought a yamaha.

@johnbryner9052 5 ай бұрын

It’s been a minute since we been down the trail! Cool

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha cheers 🍻

@johnweiss1365 5 ай бұрын

About time!!! We need three videos a week!! ❤ or just drinking videos!🤣

@iBackshift 5 ай бұрын

I put up the 60" big screen and paused on your tach. 1st belt i seen 8200 WOT and touched 8300 at 141kmh; yer pulling 200~300 rpms over the power peak, about 4hp less to be precise. 2nd belt (XS) I seen 8000 and pulling right on the power peak. On the 1st belt, IF you would have lowered the clicker to make pull at 8000, then the sled would have been faster pulling on the power peak rpm. The 850 makes 165hp at 7900, and, 165hp at 8000. [flat power peak] The difference between the two is 1.8 lbs less torque at 8000 rpms. Pulling at 8200~8300 [1st belt] yer pulling at about 160~161hp. I'da changed the clicker on the 1st belt.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

now that's some good info right there! thank you! cheers 🍻

@user-dt8gv9co5s 5 ай бұрын

Nice video

@stephanelanglois6140 5 ай бұрын

🍺🍺beers time

@kevinbushey1879 5 ай бұрын

Not much snow in Massachusetts. How much snow do you have and has it been a good winter for you guys

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

this has been the worst sled season around here that I can really think of! mother nature is off her meds man! 🤣🍻

@kevinbushey1879 5 ай бұрын

@@rednecksdirtyhands thanks for the reply lots of people never reply 🤘 rock on.

@mikevalleyboywaddell1535 5 ай бұрын

My 03 MXZ 800 (zx chassis) will do 165 km lol. Nothing like the old iron.

@technerdy 4 ай бұрын

check the clickers too. he should be touching 8k rpm. if he’s a big guy might need to adjust

@vintagepowersports81 5 ай бұрын

Decent!

@jacobmay7594 5 ай бұрын

My 2020 600 ace was doing 65mph so somethings wacky with that sled.

@gordonwrichert8240 5 ай бұрын

the secondary clutch is cracked on the outside

@mudbrats 5 ай бұрын

Nice to see ya workin on a real man’s sled for a change 😂. I think that sled sounded really shitty for an etec like it had a burble at idle. Could be plug wires arcing on the plugs, but a new pair o plugs would certainly improve that. Another thing we always do is Hi Torque rollers in that secondary, they are likely gonna fail on that 2020 sooner than later ifyaknowwhattamean - Great video, and thanks for getting me hooked on Ultimax belts. They Rock!

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha thanks! my 250 Bravo Runs and rides better than that skipoo! 🤣 best thing on that skidoo is the ULTIMAX belt! 🤪 cheers 🍻

@mudbrats 4 ай бұрын

@@rednecksdirtyhands I hear ya! You may be right, she may be getting time fer a rebuild

@gregoryh4601 5 ай бұрын

Were the Boss Lady. You need her To brighten your VIDEOS.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha I couldn't agree with ya more! she definitely brightens up my life! 🍻

@gregoryh4601 4 ай бұрын

@@rednecksdirtyhands So how does her Fans See her More? Sir she a lot better looking than a New 2024 Polaris or Skidoo. Is she Camera shy?

@mattstewart4971 5 ай бұрын

Love the videos. Pete had kinda same prob with my 02 mxz 800 renegade. Zx chassis. I think from what the web says it take a xs509 i think can u confirm that bro?.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

thank you! yeah I think for an 02 800 it should take an XS806 you can gonto www.Ultimaxbelts.com and use the belt finder to double check though 🍻

@mattstewart4971 5 ай бұрын

@rednecksdirtyhands right on Pete thanks... can I order 1 from u?

@shperax 5 ай бұрын

It's best to rebuild the top end of those new E-tec every 10,000km, so it's definitely due. Better to just do it when you can, rather than it leave you stranded somewhere. Not to mention likely costing you a lot more money if you let it blow.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

yeah I've seen a few grenade at 10k

@mn05zk 5 ай бұрын

Check crank seal and bearing, the older etecs had a greasable outer crank bearing that when the grease goes, the crank follows!

@chrislarmour8140 5 ай бұрын

I’d still blow the clutches out an check them out . And everything else like the power valves . Clean it all for the gentlemen

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

absolutely! the sled needs a good overall check over for sure! just just thought I'd show the performance loss with a worn or miss adjusted belt 🍻

@user-kc3rh8mz9y 5 ай бұрын

Prior to putting on a new belt, wouldn’t it have been a test to adjust the deflection first take it for a run and see what kind of performance difference would make then put the new belt on and see the difference

@borcht2606 5 ай бұрын

Good point. I missed that.

@Upracefan 4 ай бұрын

Belt deflection has no impact on top end performance, just off the line performance.

@mazdarx7887 5 ай бұрын

Very surprised that thing don't hit 100mph, maybe it needs more room to get there, but then again it does have a long heavy track Without a doubt, he belt sure helped but it didn't give all that speed, you change too many variables. I would have adjusted the belt tension, then done a run. Then done the belt change, the the track/sliders adjustment. When we racde Ice oval and snowcross in the late 60's and 70's, we would only change one thing at a time, document it, and carry on with the next thing. Performance tuning is knowing exactly what does what in a given condition. Also that ricky racer throttle bliping cuts belt live by about 1/4 of it's life. Each blip closes the primary, putting excess strain and wear on the belt. Years ago (60's, 70's and early 80's), before accelerator pumps on carbs and fuel injection, it was done(especially two strokes) to help prevent lean bogging when going WOT. We done a bunch of tests on my 76 Ski-doo 250 TNT RV, with Mikunies and our 75 245 TNT fa . The mikunies got rid of the vapor lock stumble Smooth throttle control , easier on belt and less track spin(spinning track is less speed)

@fuhrstpuhl3278 4 ай бұрын

If the belt is too loose (too much deflection) it will never get pulled to the bottom of the driven pullley therefore limiting top speed.....I would bet the deflection had never been adjusted on that sled since it was new.....on the other hand if the belt is too narrow (burned up) you will never be able to adjust the deflection to spec. A new belt will always benefit performance but if you don"t keep it adjusted it won't last long. I keep my belts at 1inch to 1 1/4 inch.....deflection when pushing down on the belt with my thumb.

@rednecksdirtyhands 4 ай бұрын

good info! cheers 🍻

@pullman24 5 ай бұрын

Why is it I always see Ski-Doo's blowing belts? Have hardly got to ride this year and already have seen 3 on the trails with blown belts. Ultimax belts are my go to belt as well. They have held up very well.

@ultrazls1 5 ай бұрын

They don’t float the secondary like Polaris

@jasonbrushett2005 4 ай бұрын

It's not all SkiDoo sleds,it's more an 850 etec issue

@stevedubois8004 5 ай бұрын

Awesome some ski doo content!!!!!

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha yessir! 🤣🍻

@PongbyAtari 5 ай бұрын

Take er to the Max! 😂😅

@MrHugawa 5 ай бұрын

it would be interesting to see what she gains in a top speed run

@xboxgamer6630 4 ай бұрын

🍺🍺

@hodgebone1 5 ай бұрын

always ran oem belts on both my 98 vmax 700s. think ultimax would be good?

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

absolutely! 🍻

@jimberglin1613 5 ай бұрын

Why didn't you at least try changing the belt deflection on the belt that was on it first? Could have made gains doing that to.

@robinkoenig 4 ай бұрын

Put that sled outside as a salt lick for deer.

@outty1kxxc 5 ай бұрын

The new skidoo's have problems with blowing belts.. i got a 03 skidoo rev 800 no issues, i run a ultimax belt and got 100km on it between two seasons lol. I keep the brp one as a back up tho

@johnross2626 5 ай бұрын

A lot of times I see folk change to a new belt, don't set deflection and pin the flipper. They say to go easy with variations in throttle for first 20 or 30 miles.

@fuhrstpuhl3278 4 ай бұрын

with all the shields, belt guards and other crap they hang on them now days the belts are running too hot....the only other thing that kills belts is bad clutch alignment.

@billyzgoneape 5 ай бұрын

Seems real laggy outta the hole ?

@tryarnify 5 ай бұрын

you should have cleaned the clutches on it. And then tested it. I bet you would have gained more.

@racingruss7263 5 ай бұрын

Little fine tuning with those clutches and reprogram that ecu and then the dangle part would improve.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

absolutely! 🍻

@racingruss7263 5 ай бұрын

Love watching your videos..Cheers bud.@@rednecksdirtyhands

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

cheers 🍻

@seangagne1895 4 ай бұрын

wow you sold me

@rednecksdirtyhands 4 ай бұрын

Nice One! 🍻

@tylersmith9009 5 ай бұрын

Hey what is the name of the app that was used?

@tylersmith9009 5 ай бұрын

"Dream - Meter" ??

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

lol we call the factory speedometer the "dream meter" 🤣 the app I was using is the dragy app, you have to buy the dragy unit and it will link to your phone and gives you verified GPS times and speeds for everything from 0-60, 300 foot, 1/8th mile and quarter mile runs! look up dragy and check it out...its pretty cool! cheers 🍻

@lucascady4992 5 ай бұрын

My Wife works for Timken, I didn't know they made belts? Maybe I can get a discount?! 😮 But seriously, I think someone messed with the clickers in the Primary, blew a belt and never adjusted the secondary for proper fitment..? Ask me how I know, I did it myself, thinking I knew how to adjust a Clutch.. Mine would rev too high to fast and never engage the Secondary... 😂 Live and learn!

@chadgale9305 4 ай бұрын

This sled is beat on. Not taken care off, clutches are dirty and never been cleaned it looks like, belt deflection is way off. 7900 is peak RPM.

@vaughncotton6327 4 ай бұрын

Can you give us deals on belts ?

@iolasagiaktuk-dh2mb 5 ай бұрын

What is that app u use for speed and rpm

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

that was the dragy app. you have to buy the dragy unit and it links to your phone. it's great for doing 0-60, 300 foot, 1/8th mile and quarter mile testing! shows you all your speeds and times, but not rpm...I was looking at the gauge on the sled for the rpm. cheers 🍻

@ryanbenbow-zx2sd 5 ай бұрын

@@rednecksdirtyhands I have I have two on both on of my zrts

@user-ug4yi3gz2t 5 ай бұрын

I feel like there's definitely something wrong with that one my 850 skidoo will do about 115 mph on top

@Upracefan 4 ай бұрын

All the ultimax is going to do is going to mess up the clutching shift rpms.

@joelaichner3025 5 ай бұрын

100 mph is a rush , 135 to 140 mph , wear your Superman Underwear Buddy ! Wish I had a machine that made me need Super Hero Underwear , 100 mph fast ? Bust out the Wonder Woman Underwear , let’s Ride !

@rideswift 5 ай бұрын

My old Mxz 600R would do 165 km all the time. 850 should hit 170 - 175 km / hr, My 2023 Renny Xrs 900r turbo hit 185 and was still pulling, should hit 190 no problem, no mods.

@shawncordeiro5078 4 ай бұрын

Im sadend i thaught you were better then this but your tryin to push ultimax belts because @ 753 i saw 141 on a worn out spare skidoo belt and @1737 i seen 144 on a new ultimax

@markbulva4188 5 ай бұрын

30 day warranty?

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

yeah he bought it used off a dealer and they gave him a 30 day warranty from when the trails opened up around here 🍻

@sailbc 5 ай бұрын

Put an ultimax on the bravo and see what you can get out of it.

@rednecksdirtyhands 5 ай бұрын

haha that's the plan! 🍻

@MrThegabbster 5 ай бұрын

Pete is the Horseshoe lake speed races on do you know . I'm from mckellar just up the road. I've got a T- shirt for you please bring me a 3xl Rd&DH T and a hat I've got LooT

@chrislarmour8140 5 ай бұрын

Honestly that sled should pull 160 like nothing