Been subbed since the 1st 5 minutes of one of your videos. I like and try to comment at least once. It's the least we can do for all the work you guys put into these videos.

I so wish I had the money for a T shirt or Hoodia! I love it.

I was going to sub but you made an error in your transcript at 13:44. You put "she showed very little emotion..." when referring to Jeff. I'll give you another chance next month.

his voice has a tightness and restrained tone, red flag #1

Love your show!!!

If a cop says that I would just say OK bye, and leave. You wanna know anything contact my lawyer.

Exactly my thoughts.

It's amazing to me how many of these videos you watch and how few people actually have an attorney present when they are being interviewed do they seriously think they're going to get away with it????

Lol

@@scottb.4472 They think that will make them look more guilty.

Former Criminology major (now a Nurse) Thats a great saying! I think the detectives were lazy in this case and looking for the easiest person to blame.

@@keithcourneya4900 nah I think the dad was in on it too. The wounds on the hands is pure evidence

Sad but true!!

true

@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 calm down buddy. It's good advice.

Like dude why do these people even bother trying to lie

Ryu gives off a trusting vibe. It's original

The sore in the photo of his hand was superficial and small. The large bandages were placed by ambulance staff. Real overkill and created a bigger red flag. potentially.

He looks older than me and I'm 33

Yo! That hairline poor guy, needs some T supplements

Don’t judge him just because he’s losing his hair 😢

@@MichiganJFrog. i will judge him just beacuse he's losing his hair. Baldie. Smooth head. Prickle scalp.

He's had a long paper round

I agree, but this guy is guilty. Injuries to hands consistent with murder. Opportunity. Motive. Nobody else with a reason to kill her except for the husband, who had an alibis. Son's alibis busted. The lame phone message to establish an alibis. I wouldn't convict on emotion, but circumstantial evidence? Yes.

Need Jesus

I'm very sorry for your loss

Sending you the sweetest hug❤😢

@@Clipahoy we all have our beliefs, respect them. 🙂

Good point. Also, he was injured, then was maneuvering around a keg? Possible, but still...

He’s lying lying lying lying lying

damn that’s true

He definitely murdered his mom. He’s a stone cold killer

Just being so calm wen asked if he killed his mother. I would be out my seat saying I couldn't kill anyone. He was just to calm about being asked if he killed his mother. Guilty 💯

Exactly that was not even relevant to the case and just because he lied to her, cheated, etc that is something that many or almost all people in relationships romantic or not experience And what is suspicious or evidence to prove by him discussing his feelings and emotions anger sadness etc with his girlfriend that is what you do and that cam demonstrate that he wasn't hiding his anger emotions etc but expressing them which is very helpful and don't get me wrong nothing is 100% effective but this supposed evidence presented with ex girlfriends testimony did not prove indicate or even connect the murder to him and clearly proves that there is more to this which can point to someone else but laziness and not doing thorough investigations can unfortunately and does put innocent people in jail all the time This was lazy and I'm hoping they get an appeal and they can get a new trial which presents facs evidence things relevant to the case and that his defense can prove his innocence and yeah I'm not 100% sure what happened but that's why we have a justice system and common logic shows the state did not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt

Cheating as nothing to do with the murder. Totally irrelevant. The judges are so corrupt. Police are so corrupt. It’s makes me scared to ever call them for anything

I understand having someone be a witness to their character but you're right, that should never be the "nail in the coffin".

If an accused puts his character in evidence then the prosecutor can enter rebuttal evidence.

It does seem abnormal, but in this case it seems to be just one piece of evidence of what a cold person he is, high in psychopathology which does mean he's more likely to have committed the crime

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING good can possibly come for/ to you by waiving your rights to council, and talking to the Police. It's kind of similar with what DUI Lawyers will tell their clients, when pulled over. "If they pull you out, and want you to do ANY SORT of sobriety test, you refuse. If you comply, all you're doing is helping law enforcement build a better case, with more evidence, against you. They're designed for you to fail, and you're going to be arrested anyways, so just don't do it!" It's true you'll likely lose your license, but you can fight it out in court. Never talk to the police.

Just send them on a wild goose chase

@@mendoblendo321 you don't play with fire....

@@mendoblendo321 That's impeding an investigation smart guy. That's illegal.

Nah you're all wrong. I've been interrogated after the my girlfriend's suicide and everything worked out peaches for me without a lawyer. There are the very rare exceptions, but 99% of the time if you're innocent, the evidence will speak for itself. Cops aren't stupid, and they've been doing this shit long enough to know who's guilty and who's not. It's more common for the guilty to get off than for the innocent be convicted, because it's not easy to get a conviction. You need undeniable proof, not conjecture and opinions

Yep exactly, some people express their grief or sadness differently. I've seen people that were sad and crying, and they would laugh sometimes, doesn't mean that they're not sad.

@Pranker isn't it strange how often that happens though?

@@justenbenally522 It's ridiculous, it's like they're bargaining, oh if you don't want to give him first degree murder we could try second. It's like they're toying with him, which in essence, they are. 20 to 60. Eligible for parole in 20 years, probably won't go out until he's in his late 50s. Sorry about the rant, it's just crazy to me.

It does not matter how you act it will be twisted into suspect.

But what happens if they have ASD and they lack emotions like nuro typical people

I work at a store with 3 bathrooms. It is impossible to get the men to clean let alone even pick up in any bathroom, even the ones they use. It seems odd to me that a guy would check the bathrooms FIRST THING.

well you get numb probably speechless but not like him calm , voice no abberations, at ease he is

can you relate to his mysterious coincidental injuries and feeble alibies and history of lying lol??? you know who also has a lack of emotion at a death? the killer! can you relate to murdering people!??!

can you relate to injuries that can't happen at work?!

@@aljabirxiju9475 why are you twisting what the other person said. Are you stupid or something?

Same here 😢

Small time out of the next 25 to life they'll be doing

🤣😂🤣 heard that before

Of course not

True! Plus: " You're lying! We know you know more than what you're telling us"

He Saud just a couple of questions

Cops do a very well job at making ppl feel like they don’t need it. You may know your rights but once you get out in the spot light and you keep hearing things like you’re not going to be under arrest, getting a lawyer makes it suspicious to us, talking to a lawyer ruins any chance of getting a lesser sentence. And then when u even ask for a lawyer half the time they’ll stay and ask 3-4 times or go abt it in a different way like “are you sure you don’t want to say anything at all” but then when u sign your rights over theyll never mention that you can leave whenever u want too or even advise to get a lawyer again. They’ll drown you in time and start to get rattled and make u wait even longer for a lawyer so they make u sit in a room w just your thoughts. It’s pretty fucked up how much they can get away w. But then again, they caught horrible ppl by doing these things and it sucks that this person is prob innocent

and then wtf would you be watching, cartoons?

It’s unethical not to, yes your advice is the selfish most self serving thing you can do but can we please stop normalizing acting like the right thing to do is literally whatever benefits you the most? Society and the legal system literally cannot function with even a large minority of ppl acting that way and your message is explicitly normalizing it

@@kaidusplatinum987 putting innocent people in jail harms the individual and society. You shouldn’t talk to the police without a lawyer present because some of them only care about getting a confession and closing the case ASAP regardless if you’re innocent or guilty.

Bullshit. He's guilty. He didn't just happen to cut his hands & arms (with no witnesses) at the exact same time as the murder.

Dumb comment

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard I would say from my years of experience a shitty pallet is more likely to cut up your hands then a 2x4 I've had pallets that weren't just nailed together Some have metal belts around them It all depends on what was on them A 2x4 you might get a splinter or something but definitely less likely that did it to him over the pallets

I think you’re both speaking from a person like myself who is used to manual labour. I can’t believe the handling a single empty pallet is the cause of his injuries. For a timber pallet to inflict that type of injury (looks like a sudden friction injury) it would had to have had an immense amount of weight on it suddenly. I believe that striking a person with forceful energy repetitively with a finished edged piece of framing timber is most likely to give you blisters than moving an empty rough sawn pallet once. I’m a disabled builder who hasn’t had the ability to work for 10 years now and I can guarantee you that even I, whilst being partially paralysed could move an empty timber pallet without getting so much as a blemish on my hand. His pallet moving story is a very poorly thought out attempt at an excuse for his injuries.

you’re cute 😍

I totally agree. When my mom passed I assume I was just in shock because I didn't shed a tear for the first 4 days, and then I broke down driving so bad that someone had to come pick me up.

I wouldnt outwardly show anything. It would be eating me alive on the inside. I been fighting back dark depression for years. I'm kind of cold as far as expression. I feel more awkward showing or talking about personal strong emotional distress.

To be clear I think he's guilty as hell, but I'd have to have some type of actual evidence to convict him if I were a juror. That's some pitiful detective work imo.

He wasn't grieving, it's guilt.

@@thecongenital3035 it could be , but then again ………..

That is so tragic, I’m so sorry you had to go through this. That is always been my biggest fear, to be wrongfully accused of a major crime I did not commit. I hope you’ve healed from this

@@jayjokerst yeah it was certainly an intense experience. The first year during it was really hard, I had no one to turn to or anything, became homeless whilst it all happened to from the pressure police had put around me. So yeah was a lot to go through. After all this time the only question I still have is 'how did I become involved' I asked one of the detectives that a few months after the killer was sentenced. I said 'so how did I come into it?' He said he couldn't tell me. Still messing with my head.

@@jayjokerst what goes on through your mind during these interviews is torture, the line of time and questions and how they get asked is all done by a criminologist. One thing I vividly remember was at the start of questioning I was 100% sure about my actions of the day in question....... 9 hours later........ I was unsure about everything, no word of a lie, I was so so confused.

@@Brads-strung-out this is very interesting. I’ve heard this before. It makes you question the process and wonder how much false confessions have been given

@@jayjokerst I myself would have never questioned the process before this incident though. I had to go through it to understand how it can go wrong.

Turns out when the detectives interrogated the hair follicles, the follicles lawyered up right away.

By age 21 one quarter of men are balding or have begun balding. Look it up. I didn’t know it was 1 out of 4 men by 21. Wow!

When

​@TheBOG3 interesting. I had no idea. Makes me feel bad. Not for the killer, obviously 👀 but just for men that bald early in general. You can't help genetics or possible conditions you have. 😢

Why

Same

thats the side effects of living a stressful life from birth, with mentally ill famiily members....

Is he 21 ❓️🙄 wouw.... that's indeed hard to believe...

I'm 46 and I look younger than him

He doesn't look 40. You just can't grow facial hair 😅

Nightmare fuel for sure.

I wonder did they find DNA on the wooden plank ... If he scraped his hands there should be loads.

@Captain.Toaster Grow up boy.

@@commonman711 🤓

Literally. This is so scary, he didn't seem guilty to me. Just awkward.

Not sure they teach that at law school.. detectives aren't lawyers, they use facts

@@greglaplace3786 they don't have to teach it directly, but if you make it through Crim. Law and Crim. Procedure without that impression you have a lot of faith in the system and a lot of trust in people. Also, the US justice system is adversarial, not inquisitorial. You don't have to convince the judge & jury that you have the 100% factual and true version of events to convict, just convince the Jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused acted in a way that makes them guilty (plus the mental state component in most cases which is primarily why they're trying to get the suspect to talk).

@@greglaplace3786 that is day one shit and cops don't just use facts wtf are you talking about... they lie and say anything they can to get you to confess... the end.... cops only use facts lol.

@@greglaplace3786Detectives use speculative evidence and then dupe their chosen suspects into incriminating themselves enough in order to fit their narrative. If you were to talk to any retired investigator, they will 100% admit that they use the reasoning “if you ask for an attorney, you look guilty” in order to dissuade the intended suspect. They will then also follow that up with “It is your right to an attorney whether you are guilty or innocent.” Don’t forget, they are not your friends. It’s their job to find the criminal and your job to protect yourself accordingly.

I confidently misremember things all the time. By the 2nd time talking to them they would catch me in a bunch of 'lies'. "Oh, you claimed to be at that concert Wednesday, October 24th, 2014- the night of the murder. But we checked with the venue and that concert was actually in 2009! What are you hiding?"

I am so sorry about your father. I agree with you, mixed about the emotions bc I know they are different for each person but the injuries, the call, no questions or concern on his end all seem sus. The tone used and at one point he sounded nervous to me too.

My heart goes out to you, friend. I’ve thought about it but I could never hurt my family like that. Your father must have been in tremendous pain. I’m sorry.

Hey, I'm sorry that happened to you. It totally sucks. I know.

They're incentivized to take time - they earn overtime working those extra hours.

Can't imagine what he is going through.

He’s a good friend of mine, he’s a really good guy

@@Justynbrodsky123 how's he doing?

@@Justynbrodsky123 Is he in contact with his son?

The sister too, now she’s without her mom and brother 😢

😅🤣😂

😂😂

Ok insert name here. Clever

Jeff= normal Jeffrey = psychopath

ya think maybe he watched the video once or twice ???

Yeah… he’s making a joke, dork.

Yeah, this guy was railroad it! I kept looking for signs that this guy was acting strange as per the title, but I saw none!

To those saying zero evidence: The cuts on his hands are evidence; the lack of tulips being transplanted is evidence. Not asking any questions is evidence, though circumstantial. Prior relationship saying he lied well is evidence. I think they got the right guy. I mean, imagine you are not guilty. Wouldn’t you be a bit more adamant about asserting your innocence?

​@@WatermanViolinStudioletting an ex testify that you "lied/cheated" is INSANE. I can't believe he can't get the case overturned on appeal due SOLELY to that. NO "justice" in America anymore.

@@WatermanViolinStudio if accusing an ex of lying is evidence than most people would qualify for jail 😂

@@WatermanViolinStudio character evidence and character witnesses can only be presented to the jury by the defense. The prosecution can only impeach it.

Well they didn’t take much of his time, so what is your point?

Bro literally thought the same thing as soon as he said tht 😅😂

They couldn't take what he'd already thrown away.

We won’t take much of your time is a hilarious lie to me

"Sorry, I'm going to take up some of yours. Lawyer." _Especially_ if I know I have done nothing wrong. Every question they ask is designed to get confirmation on some point of their own theory, even the "small talk." You never know what one little point will fit in to their story and you end up convicted. A few hours in a holding cell and a trip before the commissioner/judge is a small price to pay to make the prosecution build a case based on, you know, actual _evidence._

Absolutely how I feel

You think this one’s bad, look at the case of the foster daughter killing her foser mother in Ohio. She does so with a knife, while the husband was out of town. She was charged and was awaiting trial. After a year in jail, she suddenly changed her story and said that she had an ongoing sexual relationship with the father in the home for several years and he made her do it. Zero evidence to him being a part of it. We are supposed to believe a teenage girl had an affair with her foster father and didn’t tell a single soul the entire time? Teenage girl couldn’t keep a secret for 10 minutes of minor shit. He was charged, tried and convicted. Zero evidence. His conviction was entirely based on the word of a mentally Ill murderer that benefited from this accusation, and that he didn’t seem to act like he was mourning (being strong for his 2 kids that just lost their mother), and that they thought it was a little too convenient it was while he was out of town. He’s serving 40 years now. The jury should have their addresses posted after a video explanation goes viral. If they survive, deport them, bc they sure as shit aren’t American. Put em on a boat to Iran

My thoughts exactly!

I mean it's pretty clear. She doesn't talk to anyone. She doesn't have any enemies. It wasn't a burglary. He talks about how she was annoying to be around with manic/bipolar. It's been building up inside him since he was 7. Fresh 2 x 4 wounds on his hands and mother killed with a 2 x 4... No alibi besides a shady one about going over late to transplant some flowers... No emotion about her death and no questions. Crocodile tears at key points intended to deflect away from him. Last minute attempt to make the neighbor a suspect over a dead tree...that was an issue with his father. Slumped in his seat knowing he's moments away from being defeated. I'd cast my vote for guilty.

@@stephenwest6738 what an unintelligent post, a boat to iran? why iran? and why would Iran want them.....and who are you to say they arnt American...hell maybe you should leave because they ARE Americans and have acted like they have so maybe you just have a problem with Americans....anywho, what case was this specifically because I doubt there is zero evidence of this. nvm found it, Sabrina Zunich right?: During the trial, prosecutors said Knoefel wanted his wife dead to collect $750,000 in life insurance. At the sentencing, Judge Richard Collins said: 'I don't think there was any question she was manipulated and used by the co-defendant. “They were too friendly. They were too close. They would make sexual jokes towards each other,” Zunich’s friend Autumn Pavlik told" Investigators learned that Zunich had told her social worker that Kevin took photographs of her and gave her money, reported in 2014. On another occasion, Kevin contacted the social worker to say that he and Lisa were considering divorce and that he wanted to retain custody of Zunich. “I said, ‘Why not just divorce her?’ And he said, ‘Because I can’t do it. The girls would end up going to her,'” Zunich told producers. “He said, ‘She’s worth more dead than alive,’ and he brought out two policies, one for $500,000, one for $250,000.” While she sat in jail, he collected over $800,000 in life insurance, with which he bought cars and homes, and took flying lessons, according to Cleveland Scene. So much of this is verifiable so yeah zero evidence seems like a silly claim to make.

I’m the same way! I can fall apart over tiny things, but when it’s really going down, I am DIALED IN. I can’t say for sure, but I feel like I’d be stoic in this situation, too. You don’t want to be emotional, because they’ll say it’s staged. You don’t want to be calm, because they’ll say it’s a sign of guilt. DO NOT EVER EVER TALK TO POLICE WITHOUT A LAWYER.

He beat his mother to death with a 2 x 4. That’s what happened

Exactly. I’ve seen several other cases with far more evidence but no conviction. Even if he had done it, there was not enough evidence to convict him. And many people react very differently when these things happens. The lack of emotions argument is ridiculous. To me, it seems like he was keeping himself composed during the interview which was why he was calm and then he eventually broke down into tears when he couldn’t hold it in anymore. Now, some of the evidence against him such as the hand injury doesn’t look the best but no where near enough to convict.

Jury of your peers people… most of the people that want to spend time on jury duty aren’t the brightest in the bunch.. you’re putting your life in the hands of average intelligence at best. But in the end… he’s guilty. You tell me I killed my mom and I’m fighting you tooth and nail and not trying to blame it on a neighbor with a dead tree..

Dumbest thing was "co-workers said it was virtually impossible to get an injury that way" .. they experts, they see his fresh wounds? That's some hillbilly forensic science, my hands get scraped many different ways from work that my co workers may or may not experience.

Yep especially if you’re black , brown or poor!

Innocent people being incarcerated is a tragedy. However, there are far more guilty people roaming free and creating new victims.

Disagree about the phone call because it didn't create any alibi only a possible timeline that couldn't be verified. Along with the hand injuries the second most important thing was actually the lie about the plants, that simple lie destroyed his whole credibility.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 wtf they had nothing against this man 😂

He seems guilty to me.

Even the ridiculously unscientific "his coworker couldnt make the same injury throwing the pallet"

@@raindangelo2168 How so?

@@raindangelo2168it doesn’t matter what it seems to you, facts and evidence outweigh whatever gos complex you are going through in life currently.

Yep. You couldn’t have explained that any better. It’s a skill that you learn while walking on eggshells not to trigger the perpetrator. I’m living this life now it’s horrible. My partner is bipolar (not on medication) violent and has severe OCD. I basically have to be in tune with his emotions to protect myself.

Yes, mental illness is especially hard on those around the mentally ill. I agree.

@@wvrjl I had a terrible experience with a friend that went complete manic. He purposely took too many pills as well. After the incident, I did some research online about the effects on surrounding people, government advice, studies, a thesis maybe. I found absolutely nothing. Everything was about the patient, all wrapped in cotton wool. Nothing about, say, public safety. When they go off their head, it is so easy for an innocent bystander to get hurt or distressed.

VERY WELL SAID/EXPLAINED

My dad was bad with verbal abuse and on drugs. It’s given me social anxiety In my adult years. Even hearing people argue gives me anxiety. I hate it…

The thing is everybody handles grief differently, there is no proper way to react to death.

If you're mother was murdered, you wouldn't wonder who killed her? You wouldn't have a full set of suspects in mind? This interview is incredibly damning.

@@q335r49 Yes I agree, if your mother is dead you'd be chasing the detectives not the other way around.

I have a very flat affect because of past trauma and er, just not liking people very much. If someone tried to elicit a stereotypical response from me in this situation it just wouldn't happen because it's not in my personal library. I hate the way cops want to see screaming and crying and will actually bully women especially in these situations to try and force an 'acceptable' response.

​@@complimentary_voucher They know that they will see different responses from different individuals, what they don't like is a complete absence of response. They will just factor it into their calculation.

To gain more evidence they should of asked him which plants were put in the ground. It would be obvious of a recent planting, also check the basement for signs of sweeping..

TRUTH ,these pathetic coppers do not care if they lock up the innocent, just so long as they score point's for a conviction.

Exactly

100%

Dont be stupid.

It’s sad, and unfortunately true. There is many innocent people rotting in a prison in your state.

Ur correct

I just commented the same thing. The only thing they care about is thier "batting avg.". It's scary.

@Tiiaa I couldn't agree more. Several years ago, my juvenile son was picked up with his friends for suspected mailbox 📫 bashing. All the parents were called and asked if they had our permission to question our children. At the time, I was a criminal defense paralegal. I was the only parent who said they did NOT have my permission. My son was the only one who did not get charged and convicted. Those poor kids got a conviction for... Get this... Terroristic threats!!! Like you said, keep your mouth shut and ask for an attorney!!!

I wonder if I’ll ever watch an interrogation video and not see this same comment 1000x

@@gooosb I agree. However, people continue talking and answering questions. This statement can't be said too often.

Sheer assumptions my ass. Tons of evidence in this case. Id say the real danger is people believing in all the gamesmanship about stress and mental trauma, which he is akin to the medeival belief in spirits. "I showed zero surprise, shock, upon learning my mom was dead because I was inhabited by spirits!"

@@savage101. But lying about planting flowers doesn't prove guilt either. There's also a psychological disorder where people habitutally lie for no apparent reason.

Those sores on the hands come on. I worked with thousands of wooden pallets. The only thing i got was a small sliver. It doesn't leave blisters handling one pallet.

It's human nature to react a certain way to certain things. If my mom was found dead I'd be asking questions not answering them. Then I'd tell the cops to do their jobs.

Negative.!!!

Well said. What ever happened to reasonable doubt? He was certainly up against it.

Absolutely. It's better that 10 guilty men go free than for one innocent man to be convicted.

I agree that the ex girlfriend added nothing of value.

Exactly I didn’t see enough evidence at all.

@@ProudPatriot007 ..just what I was thinking, very weak case- even for just manslaughter... I'm Hoping the trial contained more evidence that wasn't shown here 🤷🏽‍♂

Amen brother Ben, shot a rooster and killed a hen!

Sometimes I believe they know they've the right to consult a lawyer before but are afraid to appear more guilty when they ask for it.

@@lowruna Sometimes I believe they need they azzes stomped all over the place!

Innocent people don’t feel like they need a lawyer. The first time around. Then we wind up in jail staring at our plastic spork at 4:30 in the morning waiting on officers to feed the morning slop. Some are just luckier than our friend here to not have a jury with a collective IQ of 87. I trusted that detectives would see that I was innocent. And for that, I later faced a stacked deck with a DA that tried to hide evidence for 2 years, amongst other underhanded tactics. But like any lawyer will tell you, jury selection is the most important part of any case going to trial.

@@NorthGeorgiaAudit (I don't get all your slang and am being abused longterm by social authorities), but always thought the jury consisted of sensible, trustworthy individuals with good observation, reasoning, and sense of judgment...is it not so then? Or is it that the law has changed in practice, loóke they did about me, (as long as no one challenges it and objects!?) So did you have to be locked in for 2 years although innocent? And did they hide evidence FOR you? Does stacked deck mean that they had messed with the cards so to speak, beforehand, so that the game ws rigged? They have done similar to me, and i didn't know that social officials with the job to próvide assistence and make life better finally, act nice but deceptive without me knowing orr suspecting, or noticing an d suffering, but being withheld all facts , plans, rights etc and not encountered, so tha one feels increasinngly derealized, depersonalized, depressed, weakened, non-exisent, worthless, stupid, humiliated, , guilty for being stressd and angry for no clear reason and while they talk with such calm and nice voices...I haveAspergers, meaning I don't understand double play .luckily I study to not go mad, and so I learn and get a bit less sick of my self-esteem. it is said that bit is we the citizens , who have to speak up against corruption, violation of the la, of democracy . But they have weakened us and our social skills, abilities, interests by introducing cell-phonies on most of us, weakening and isolating us from each other, aking it harder to organize and co-work withstrangers, as was done before when a crisis or war happened. I saw old documentary of life in bunkers during bombing, how well strangers organized and co-worked. I wonder how the jury is selected, does each prosecutor do it, or the judge? I hope you are out ,and with your self-worth intact. I try to look at my misery as my military service, sth to learn from and be strong in.

Who are you to say or know how someone would react

No. Mr wood hands is guilty

@@markusParkus233 Based on what evidence Mr Columbo?

Based on his wood hands

Nah we could've used something like this for Casey Anthony

Did they get cell phone gps to show where exactly he was during the murder?

It was about a month or more before I really broke down about my Grandpa and let myself really grieve.

I get that. People react differently. That's fine. But his reactions had no range. Like he rehearsed. Like a robot.

They did a great job on this case

@@teresamiles-dz6rs uuhh...did you forget something ma'am?

I agree, he looks guilty, but I would hope it would be people like you who were on my jury who could say “ hey he looks guilty but there’s not enough evidence to say he’s guilty for sure” that’s when they’re supposed to be found not guilty. I’m sorry but I would rather a guilty man get off a charge and be set free than imprison an innocent. Otherwise it sets the precedent to convict on circumstances alone. There’s been many cases where it looked extremely bad for one person but ended up it was someone else.

The judicial system in this case failed, they needed someone to blame to get paid and be rid of the case, cold cold world we live in

@@SuperPhunThyme9 yeah I did

His DNA is on everything, they live in the same house. How convincing is, "we found DNA linking you to the crime" when the suspect lives there? 🙄 Evidence they had was incredibly strong, if not overwhelming. Lied about flowers, lied about injuries at work, this damning interview here, history of domestic violence. The only thing they didn't have was premeditation, and that means it's second degree.

If she scratched him like the scratches on his arm she would have dna under her finger nails. If he had blisters and cuts from swinging the 2x4 he would of dropped piece of skin of fluid at the crime scene. The crime scene was not cleaned yet they found zero dna from the son, zero with a crime scene that wasn’t cleaned

@@MultiJosh1011 well did they find any DNA of anyone else? If there was DNA of anyone under her fingernails you guarantre they would have tested it, the labs would have seen it, and he wouldve been cleared. The scratches don't have to come from her fingernails, they are evidence of a violent encounter. You attack your mom she's not scratching your arm. If could be from hiding the 2x4 in the woods. The fact that he got injured so badly the day of that he got bandaged by the paramedic who Noticed it, that not only did no one at work confirm his injury, but that they said it couldnt even occur at work, is sus as hell. If I got injured at work, enough so that the paramedic had to bandage me, literally everyone at work would know about it. People don't like thinking through things do they.

@@q335r49 The evidence they had was weak and purely circumstancial.

How can you explain the hand injuries?

No child protection laws at the time? What are you, 270 years old?

Can't say I'd be particularly bothered if I found out someone murdered the majority of my family. You don't have to care just because you're related, and I always find it super toxic when people suggest that you should, and that there's something wrong with you if you don't. It's because there's something wrong with them that I don't, thanks! Mind blowing he was found guilty without a single shred of evidence. It wasn't even circumstantial evidence. They had nothing linking him to her death. At all.

​@@subg8858 Pretty rude comment

Lynne wow,,that's pretty sad,,my dad was abusive,,he died at age 60,,I could not stand him,,but I cried because we didn't have a healthy relationship

Agree. 👍

1000%

That’s exactly what I was thinking

No way a wooden pallet would do that to both hands. His I helped her put away groceries, than gave her a hug?

I spent 36 hours trapped in my own house with a friend in a manic episode. Non-stop talking, no sleep, no escape. Her husband was traveling in another country but he ended up closing off their debit card bc she'd tried to drain the account before she came to my place. Hated taking her meds. It's a sad situation. Why take a drug that removes that high, slows you down, removes all that 'productivity' ...??

I know right, i can't tell if he's innocent or not.

I am so sorry for your loss, my heart goes out to you! I can’t imagine what that was and still is like for you but I can tell you that if you turn to Jesus that he can help you. The peace he can grant is amazing. Also please DO NOT even think about suicide. That doesn’t end anything and is definitely not God will. There are grief support groups that you could contact for help. There are others who have been where you are and will understand. They are in person and online. I’m not going to say your pain will end but it will be different eventually enough that you can cope. Big hug 🤗 And perhaps someday you will be that support for someone in your shoes, and God will send you to be there for them. (My mom passed in jan and I still haven’t been able to cry. I have family angry at me for not crying when they decided I should have) Still not real to me. Still feel like I’m in shock.

Hang in there, Jonathan Ellsworth. I see you...🎋♥ I am sorry for your loss.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother. It sounds like you are still in shock, and we all deal with trauma and loss differently. there's no 'right' or 'wrong' way about it. I was wondering if you might have considered grief counselling? The reason I would suggest it is because unexpressed sorrow can manifest and may utterly overwhelm in unexpected ways/situations. I wish there was something more solid to give you, I can't imagine what you've been through.

I understand you so well. In May the police came to my door to tell me my son was found that morning, he had passed away. I have had such a difficult time dealing with this. It’s as though my mind shuts off and won’t let me think about it. Yet I feel the same things as you describe. Numb, void, silent, in pain. I hope you find healing in thoughts of your special times with your brother, that will always be with you.

@mike sprigg I talk from much experience. Jesus helped me through so many things, divorce, death of loved ones, addiction, heart ache, physical and mental pain. I hope that some day you will repent and accept his loving sacrifice and follow him. He’s the only person that ever has or can sacrifice his life to pay for your sin. Amazing Grace, amazing love! Amazing peace!

Best comment of all the ones above you. This should be pinned. As long as the police have a timestamped photograph of the property, I find your reasoning irrefutable. He simply knew that he needed to account for the time when he was disposing of the evidence and was forced to fabricate (which was his "mistake").

@Amanda Bejolie here is one right back to ya :)

They will just tell you to calm down anyway?

But you should be upset.

@@MikeJones-rk1un i was definitely upset and I am sure they officers knew it. But I stayed calm to give a 1st hand account of what I saw.

I'm so sorry that happened to you. I, too, chose to provide info to the police as the only witness to a crime. The cop I spoke to told me I had amazing recall, and gave detailed info that most witnesses never could. I told him that in the moment I was terrified, and it caused the image to be burned into my memory like a picture I could see as clearly as if it were a snapshot taken that I could hold in my hand. People act differently during times of stress. Some break under it, some become stronger. There's a reason that the reaction to danger is known as flight fright or freeze. Precisely because people react differently.

He gets out at age 41.

Fuck I didn’t know my ex was bipolar but this all makes sense. How did I put up with her for so long. Thinking I was the crazy 1

Bipolar is a very difficult disease to live with. You never know who is going to be next to you at any given moment. The important thing is - they don't choose this. They don't know anything beyond what they're currently experiencing. Loving those that have it is so important, at least to be there for the beautiful moments. Hang in there ❤️

Bipolar people are exhausting and so disruptive. I can’t with them.

@@alleschwartz4821 that is not exactly true. They can stop some of their behaviors. R behavior. Sure. They cannot help some of the mood swings , but they can control their

That sounds more like borderline. Bipolar doesn't switch within the week. It's weeks of mania and then depression maybe longer. The anger kinda gives it away too.

Yes say I want my lawyer. A lawyer says say nothing.

what a pity eh? Your plan is the right plan. Lawyer up and keep silent.

I didn't even know you could ask for a lawyer before watching these true crime videos. Some people don't ask for lawyers cause lack of education

@@Kimo_Neko Yes I have 2 lawyers phone numbers in my wallet and cell phone. One for minor things one for major things you never know.

@@garywilloughby6893 you sound guilty a.f.

American juries, especially, lean towards guilty. It's guilty unless proven innocent!

@@wvrjl Fresh, unusual injuries on his hands consistent with swinging 2X4 at someone in a rage hours after finding his mum beaten to death with a similar type weapon. Not proof, but it is extremely damning circumstantial evidence.

I thought the same thing. Just because he doesn't react to his Mom's death like they think he should, and, a co-worker described how you could get injured with a pallet? Seriously. Very shaky evidence.

@@Johnny53kgb-nsa a two by four is twice as thick and heavy as the wood used in a pallet. By swinging the wood it would cause abrasions as the rough wood passes over the skin (same motion as a baseball bat swing)

@@Johnny53kgb-nsa the co worker said, "there was ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, you could hurt your hands like that with the pallets! NOT that you could, lol

Yeah I noticed that... Immediately hid the hands that killed.

Body language.

“Ate breakfast, played on the computer, killed my mom. No, wait.”

geez. what were they claiming was evidence that he murdered her?

You probably killed your father. That’s why you didn’t cry.

@@ScreamingEagleFTW the wounds on his hand would be obvious evidence. I believe the dad was in on it too. The both planned to act surprised and shit

It's like the defence lawyer said. The jury likely didn't have enough evidence to give a verdict of "guilty". So they added in 2nd degree murder (still not enough evidence) so that both sides of the hung jury can "compromise". I can't believe that's even legal.

"Based on the evidence presented..." These videos vs an actual trial are 2 very different things. For a jury of 6-12 jurors (depending on the state the trial takes place) to unanimously agree on a verdict and sentence, well, they are all going to have seen and heard enough collective evidence to believe beyond a reasonabke doubt of their decision because at the end of the day they still have to be able to sleep at night with their decision. I was a juror on a death penalty trial that had national coverage from the get go and I have yet to see anybody that even knows half of what us jurors were shown/told the entire few week trial. Trust me, when you have someone's life in your hands from any amount of jail time to their actual life, you will go through every bit of evidence until all jurors are confident in their decision and can all agree on the same thing(s). Even if the case is beyond clear, jurors will still go through everything in the jury room together- numerous times if needed. Our justice system may not be perfect, but it is hands down the best/most fair on this planet.

Yeah, seems like BS, to me too. I think this guy got a very raw deal.

What the fuxc are u serious did he really do it

@@ProudPatriot007 lol

@@ClumsyRoot That was his Dad who made the phone call and he was not acting. That evidence was not definitive and that is why the prosecution added a charge. It's also how innocent people end up in jail. The police commented on his scratch marks and yet no DNA evidence was found under the Mother's fingernails or tying him to the crime at all. This could possibly mean their assumptions with his behavior were also wrong. There is definitely reasonable doubt in this case. It doesn't sit well with me for these reasons.

@@tiffanysteadman7822 for real who the fuck are these people saying hes guilty as hell unreal bias going on here there is no evidence to connect him to the crime other then what a jilted ex some guy in a ware house wearing gloves throwing pallets around Thats ridiculous ive busted my hand a bunch when i was careless and in a rush

Still growing, still learning but hopefully we will continue to improve as we provide you with more content to watch.

So it’s like a teenaged channel, lol. Still quickly becoming one of my faves.

but wouldnt that immediately make u look guilty cause before he came to the interrogation he not supposed to know if it even was a murder

@@ijk9142 maybe, and you may spend some time in the pokey but do what you have to do for the end result: Justice and your freedom. As soon as they bring you in (probably before, actually) say “I want a lawyer.” Simple as that. Answer no questions, they shouldn’t ask any after that. “I want a lawyer.” 4 words may separate you from an injustice hell existence and your freedom.

This guy is way better than the explorer with us channel can’t stand that voice.

The 2 by 4 missing, the wounds that match such piece (and co-workers saying it is impossible to have that kind of wounds from pallets) and the fact he didn't do the work at that ladies house he said he did...makes it very, very likely he is the murderer.... During the whole process there may have been more details that came up. It seems the jury found it enough evidence.

I have lifted thousands of pallets during my life and I never not a single time ever had the skin ripped off my hands.

@@redpillyoass5894 how many people have you murdered? 🤔

scary stuff

You did it.

@@raygunn1083 thank god for double jeopardy.

@@NorthGeorgiaAudit 😂

We need to hear this story.