Top 8 Fish You'll Regret (And 11 Great Alternatives)

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As a beginner, you often see information telling you which fish to avoid, but you don't often see suggested alternatives! That's what this video is all about...
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@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Got a nano tank? How about these fish?? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9OmeaZ9vrrcqXk.html

@krazymuncher2288 4 жыл бұрын

What about dragonets?

@csouza1977 4 жыл бұрын

KrazyMuncher they are a bit harder to keep as they need a lot of copepods in the tank

@erikcoetzee3231 3 жыл бұрын

Could you do one on fish to keep in a 15 gallon 🤔 like to take care of algea ect

@dayreef3688 2 жыл бұрын

U will probably regret the purple tang alternative is the sailfin tang

@mo9158 Жыл бұрын

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@emerymorgan4389 4 жыл бұрын

I have two freshwater tanks that are thriving and I know nothing about reef tanks. But I’m gonna watch this anyways.

@TheHappySmileyFace12 3 жыл бұрын

Ever since I got into saltwater I lost my interest in my freshwater planted tank, doesn’t even compete

@suzannecook9840 Жыл бұрын

Ooooook

@rob431 4 жыл бұрын

😂 I think I have 5 of them fish on the list, it’s like you looked at my tank before you made this video, but I’m fish only

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

🤣

@shelbym6460 3 жыл бұрын

This guy is just out here releasing A+ content like it's no big deal

@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын

😅🙏

@russellgrant4544 4 жыл бұрын

I kept a neon dottyback as a lone specimen in a nano reef tank and it was one of my favorite fish I've ever kept because of its bold nature and bright colors. I eventually moved it into a large community tank with fish much larger than it (large Koran angel and a yellow tang) to avoid it being a bully. Definitely wouldn't keep it with anything close to it in size though!

@CescaTheDarkHorse 4 жыл бұрын

Have all these fish in my reef. My copperband has been in the reef for 4 years Lucky I have a lot of coral. :)

@mothsocks4082 Жыл бұрын

I’ve literally just ordered my first marine tank! A Red Sea reefer XL! I’ve just found your channel and I’m absolutely hooked. You’re so informative to novice marine keepers like me! X

@wayneevery2176 4 жыл бұрын

I have been doing this hobby for about 4 years and, I find your videos to be spot on with the time I have been doing this. with the tang and, some of the other fish and, they help me know more about the good fish I want in the future.

@jamesprescott1577 4 жыл бұрын

I actually don't have an aquarium. Just doing a bit of research.

@brettbarrett2533 2 жыл бұрын

One of the most honest breakdowns of fish destined to die slowly and proper alternatives to try. Reef Dork is truly one of the hidden gems and a great added value to any list of youtube / Marine Biologists/ Hobbyists who are honest.

@chrish6659 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this as I drive to the fish store to actually buy more fish for my tank! Great video, it’s a really thoughtful mindset to do this!

@krazymuncher2288 4 жыл бұрын

For a chromis alternative, you could keep pyjama cardinalfish. They school and are around the same size but imo aren't as active and stick to the rock work more.

@mandrew20111 4 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking about a small group of fire fish. Beautiful colors and they swim together

@StudioGhibletz 3 жыл бұрын

Banggai's are great too and I think they're captive bred now

@erect4e369 4 жыл бұрын

The only damsel I would recommend people get is the blue sapphire damselfish, extremely hardy, and much more timid and less aggressive than my clownfish.

@andyprem 3 жыл бұрын

have to say the talbot's damsels aren't bad. after a few years they get a bit territorial but since they never grow much are easily persuaded to give up.

@Bullzor121 4 жыл бұрын

Great informative video! i like how you care and prioritise the health of fish before the keepers desire for colour and aesthetics :)

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Easy to do in a hobby so full of colour 🙂

@magalimckay4685 Жыл бұрын

I got very lucky with my yellow tailed damsel. He's entirely peaceful. Admittedly he's the exception to the rule. Thank you for the suggestions! :)

@fellowreefer 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love this info and have made me feel that I have definitely done my research to pick up what I should and shouldn’t have in my new 180 coming up soon.

@lilolmecj 4 жыл бұрын

Salim Parmar one fish he didn’t mention for schooling is flame fish. They are generally peaceful, although I would get 2 or 5. And they are ridiculous jumpers so a secure tank lid is a must. I do have a blue Tang, it was at Petco and suffering from tail rot. I got it for a give away price, quarantined for a month and now four months later it looks great. Now that is a pretty short time. I also have a Lavender Tang, I call it a girl. Her name is Trixie, and her colors are not bold, but she is beautiful, and she swims constantly when the lights are on. She adds a cool element to my 120 gallon tank.

@eiurgretarsson9884 Жыл бұрын

had a pair of flame angels for years that didnt touch anything , and a flame hawkfish aswell , ..however the copperband never worked out for me ,fun video and nice to show alternatives.

@Not_Hans 4 жыл бұрын

What an awesome video thanks for the Info I've wanted to get a reef tank going for some time now I've got a 180g aquarium already picked.

@BigGuyAl007 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video Alex. You choose all the lovely fish that's not reef safe lol. Your tank is looking good and a empire would look good! Keep going and what's next !

@rustyshackleford234 Жыл бұрын

I used to have a blue sapphire damselfish in my old 15 gallon nano reef. It lived peacefully with my two clownfish for over an entire year!

@JeriDro 10 ай бұрын

2:13 Tang: "Worship me!" Chromis: "Yes, lord!"

@pelagicswimmer 4 жыл бұрын

I think one of the best shoaling fish are Ghost cardinals, if kept with larger fish like tangs they really do keep in a decent shoal. Some interesting alternatives put forward, I think success with a copperband is selecting the right tank mates and having a well established tank.

@pauldeacon8764 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Alex! keep up the good work my friend! 😀👍

@animetronic6689 3 жыл бұрын

5:00 There is TWO exception though for the zebrasoma tangs. The dejardini and sail fin tangs get bigger than the blue tang. But most of the others are good.

@atfinthehouse8631 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job! We definitely end up narrowing down our fish choices and tanks with fish all end up having same fish! Lol

@greenshades1234 Жыл бұрын

Wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say Chromis kill each other off. I’ve had 7 in a 90 gallon tank for over a year and they do great haven’t lost a single one. They definitely have a pecking order and I’ve seen few cases of battery and assault but no murders.

@jonpinkerton5401 4 жыл бұрын

Great job offering some alternatives

@EDKsurly Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I'll research these alt fish. Especially the butterfly

@razorreef6552 3 жыл бұрын

A schooling fish you might want to look at is the neon blue rainbow fish ( pseudomugil cyanodorsalis). It is small and reef safe. Inappropriate reefer has a video on them.

@farukyonder7318 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful video, thank you very much

@alfst5546 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video, wish I could have seen it a few years ago, because several of fish you mentioned, I have had in the past, and yes, I experienced exactly what you described, I had a bunch of Anthias all female, when one decided to turn into a male and boy did he rule the tank, sounds funny, but sad to see how it affected all the other fish.

@emmareyes8114 Жыл бұрын

thought clownfish were the only ones able to produce sgender change

@sdavey10 Жыл бұрын

Very useful, thanks Alex

@falcolf Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video, it concreted my plan to get a Royal Gramma instead of an Orchid Dottyback!

@chrishardy8937 4 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. Thanks for the knowledge. Im looking at switching a 100l tropical to marine so getting as much info as possible. Want a pair of clowns(shock) cardinal and watchman goby to see how i get on with marine

@harlanmichael7088 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video!

@rubikclockweights 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Reef Dork. Helps a lot

@Jaaaaayyy 4 жыл бұрын

Flame hawk fish can be very aggressive towards other fish , I have one in my 40 gallon nuvo and can’t put any other fish with him or he will kill them in less then a day . Even tries to attack my snails and conchs . Could be just mine is just a nightmare also I guess but that’s my experience .

@bradsimpson8724 3 жыл бұрын

Flame wrasses are a peaceful red aquarium fish that I could recommend, even if they are a bit pricey.

@PhiCongDoan7587 4 жыл бұрын

This is a great video!!! Thank you!

@paulcohen2394 Жыл бұрын

Great video! You are very funny! 😂

@77MyEsha 4 жыл бұрын

I don't keep fish anymore, but I used tp some years ago. My one regret was introducing Angel fish to the tank with my other fish. Trust me, they look angelic but they don't live up to their name!! they started attacking and killing all my other fish. At first I couldn't track down who the culprit was, until one day I caught them at it!! If I ever decide to get fish again, I would stay well clear of Angles, unless they were on their own of course.

@travisrichardson1515 4 жыл бұрын

Kinda wish I had seen this vid before buying the sixline that I have subsequently nicknamed "The Wrassehole". Still probably the most colorful addition to my reef though :)

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

🤣

@klowranc 2 жыл бұрын

Wow glad I clicked on this video, thanks!

@billybassman21 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had good luck with Dottybacks. I will have to say the Damsel fish is one to avoid. I had one and it was a ruthless bully that wouldn’t back down even with fish that fought back. They are good to establish an aquarium and then you get rid of them, if you can catch them.

@therageheartshow2099 4 жыл бұрын

How come dragonets are not on the list? They starve easily without enough pods and even with a well established tank with pods hey can eat pods in the tank at a rate they will disappear from the display

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, 100% agree 👍

@stephend7 4 жыл бұрын

They will eat frozen fish eggs!!! I’m not experienced enough to really know, but I think you will still need pods because they pick and eat all day so they probably aren’t set up for once a day feedings.

@lordnems997 4 жыл бұрын

They pretty easy to train and I do a decent job.

@stephend7 4 жыл бұрын

I bought pods after losing a couple. I bought them well before I bought him to let a stable population to grow. It wasn’t until later that I found out about the frozen fish eggs. Mine now eats fish food pellets.

@JosvanMeer 4 жыл бұрын

They are actually quite easy to train on frozen food or pellets (my mandarin ate pellets), It requires only discipline and patience. Once they eat frozen or pellets they are set for life. Unless they suicide by anemone. RIP Queen Margaret.

@animetronic6689 3 жыл бұрын

I think that a Pink streaked wrasse is an awesome alternative to six lines!

@JAMcDonald1 4 жыл бұрын

Very helpful, thanks.

@zafishguy5166 4 жыл бұрын

I have a yellow coris wrasse a great fish to have but a note of their ability to disapear for 2 to 3 weeks when you add larger fish.

@Peterrdee 3 жыл бұрын

I have a flame angel, got him with a potters angel and they are doing amazing for me I love them 100%

@richardk6196 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome job bud!

@maddoctor99 Жыл бұрын

I miss my flame hawkfish. If I ever get back into the hobby it would be the first fish back in my tank. So much personality.

@briansreef7255 4 жыл бұрын

Phenomenal video. Great perspective. Do you know if you can mix a Bellus angel with a coral beauty? I have seen it done in other tanks. But I have not found any specific information on their compatibilities.

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

I've never done it but yes, I'd have thought so - totally different genus.

@jasong375 3 жыл бұрын

Hey great video. How are you getting that great shimmer in your tank with the T5s on? What’s your fixture/ bulb setup?

@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын

It's a hybrid with a Kessil ap700. 2x blue plus and 2x coral plus

@thecoolestreefdude 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Reef Dork, I love your videos! I have one question though, how is the compatibility between your wrasses and your flame hawk? I have heard that the flame hawk can be aggressive towards wrasses. I have a 75 gallon tank and I am looking into getting a melenarus wrasse and a flame hawkfish, but I was just wondering your thoughts. Thanks!

@ReefDork 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fine - i've never heard of aggression towards wrasses from hawks. Gobies yeah, but wrasses should be fine...

@cale0312 4 жыл бұрын

Great Vid, thanks a lot :-) Greetings from Germany

@atmoz_ Жыл бұрын

I tried the pyramid butterflyfish... they both died very fast. Another store told me they are pretty difficult to keep as well.

@inventoryking 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Thanks

@quartercajun71 5 ай бұрын

I went with the flame hawkfish. Little bastard killed everything. Thanks dork.

@fostee1 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid reef dork

@tylerclontz 4 жыл бұрын

Great video I enjoyed it.

@ImitationKrab99 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Can someone tell me what that device that one spot foxface is eating off of @ 5:16 ??

@ReefDork 2 жыл бұрын

It's the wet side of a Tunze Care algae magnet

@russellguyver7746 2 жыл бұрын

Love the flame angel and were affordable last year but my lfs has 2 each at £230 ! I'll have to wait on those lol

@arsenioseslpodcast3143 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy to live in Thailand. Green Chromis are just $3 and Tangs could be anywhere from $11 to $40 for the massive ones

@opethmike 4 жыл бұрын

I think that they only time I'd get a sixline wrasse would be for pest control in a frag grow out tank.

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love one for that

@annebartells777 3 жыл бұрын

I have the rare six line wrasse. It leaves it's take mates alone

@OphidiaSnake 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Reef Dork, I love your channel! I'm living vicariously through it at the moment since I don't have a marine aquarium (two tropical aquaria, 90l high tech planted oligotrophic, 18l mansion for a very spoilt Betta). I am thinking of creating an invert-only nano tank. The ecosystems behind coral tanks fascinate me, and fish don't do well in nano tanks anyway. Have you tried anything like this?

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

I've thought a lot about setting up an invert dominated tank recently actually. I feel like at least one fish would be a good thing - some form of bioload is better for the ecosystem for me. But there are some fascinating critters - pom pom crabs, anemone crabs and shrimp, pistol shrimp, venus shrimp, sexy shrimp, rock flower anemones, conches etc etc. It's a great idea - go for it!

@OphidiaSnake 4 жыл бұрын

@@ReefDork Thanks for your reply. I had thought of maybe one yellow goby if absolutely neccessary, but I'm glad to see you don't think it's totally crazy. Give me a year to get really knowledge'd up and I'll give it a go!

@alexanderbouwens2772 4 жыл бұрын

As a schooling fish I would like to sugguest the Zoramia leptacantha, no aggression and live long.

@uuncebret 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, my 6 line wrasse already exported! 😁

@opethmike 4 жыл бұрын

Good morning, friendly reef dork!

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Buenos dias! 👋

@cordyceps7531 2 жыл бұрын

I've had good luck with both the flame angel and blue tang. Agreed on damsel fish though, bullied the hell out of my royal gramma to the point it that it hid under the filter unless it was feeding time.

@arsenioseslpodcast3143 2 жыл бұрын

yup. Damsels are shit

@el_guapo1318 4 жыл бұрын

You really do love those Flame Hawkfish, as I have noticed they are on almost every fish list you have.

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

😁

@Tetrastuctural_Intelligence 4 жыл бұрын

Hawkfish are fun to watch. It's like they are gliding between your rockscape

@lilolmecj 4 жыл бұрын

Daniel St-Jean yes, and they are very curious, always checking everything out. Mine did develop a taste for cleaner shrimp though so at present he lives alone.

@77blacktrip 4 жыл бұрын

Red head Solon fairy wrasse are perfect. They look amazing. Swim round all day. Don't bury in the sand. And don't bother anyone else.

@ronbeatty516 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you general statement about dottybacks being little terrorists. However, the Orchid Dottyback is an exception of the family. I have had several over the years that have fit well into community reefs.

@hendrix38659 4 жыл бұрын

Your right, if you go with captive bread they are every more docile.

@willleslie2745 19 күн бұрын

My flame hawkfish ismy fabourite fish ive ever had! He's also extremely strong and survived VALVET disease

@davidreeves644 2 жыл бұрын

I would do angels in a tank with weedy corals such as xenias if I were to try them.

@freddy9233 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos are amazing and thank you! Yellow tang was one of the main reasons which made me transfer from planted tanks to reef tanks. I am planning on a 75 gallon with a sump, lengthening 120cms x 50 cms x 50 with lots of rock work. Is he going to be happy enough? He will ofcourse be my only tang along with some other small fish (clown , gobies etc ) The main king in the tank :) Literature is a little bit confused with some say that 55 gallons are fine and others talking about 100 gallons.

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Ideally all tangs would have big tanks, but in my opinion you'll be absolutely fine. Worth adding last to avoid aggression to new fish, and feed nori regularly. Then you're good to go. You might need to move him on in the long term if he gets too big/aggressive. I think people are less 'Tang Police-y these days'

@freddy9233 4 жыл бұрын

@@ReefDork I will may tell to the guy who is going to build the tank to increase the width by 10cm , making it 120 x 60 x 50 in order to increase capacity by 60 liters and give a little more depth. Truth is that I do not want a huge tank to make my life easier with water changes and general maintenance but if that is better and closer to the appropriate size then why not .. To be honest though , nothing is appropriate for a fish that lives in such depths in its natural environment:)

@phoenixamaranth 3 жыл бұрын

This is a good, no bs list of fish to not keep. We all want those beautiful ones like the angels or the blue tangs but yeah, they just don't work in smaller tanks and reef tanks.

@arsenioseslpodcast3143 2 жыл бұрын

tangs absolutely work in reef tanks. what are oyu talking about?

@phoenixamaranth 2 жыл бұрын

@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Did you miss the "smaller tanks" part? Blue tangs get quite large and should not be kept long in small tanks as they outgrow them quickly. Sure lots of people don't care and have no issue torturing fish, but that's not me. It may not have been clear from my sentence structure but I meant small reef tanks as well. Was trying to distinguish both fish only and reef tanks of small size.

@williamlinegar695 4 жыл бұрын

Solid video!

@Peterrdee 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve had 4 flame angels and my 4th is alive and it’s doing perfect with my potters, they do pick at eachother a bit but they aren’t dominant so it’s not a issue, I also have had a yellow tang for 4 years, and a fox face for 2

@Peterrdee 4 жыл бұрын

They are all still alive tho, I’m not saying they died 💀💀😂😂😂🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful fish - I'd absolutely love one 😍. The potters is a beaut too 👍

@Birdofthetacklebox Жыл бұрын

I was wondering I’ve heard a lot of people say snowflake eels are good beginner fish, and in my opinion snowflake eel are my FAVORITE fish so do you think there good beginner fish?

@ReefDork Жыл бұрын

I have no experience with them I'm afraid

@kevinclasher3160 4 жыл бұрын

I have a dotty back orchid and there not aggressive to other tank mates at all and reef friendly. They love playing in the rocks and always curious of everything.

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I should have said it's not all dottys - the orchid is fine 🙂

@gunschl1715 4 жыл бұрын

My orchid dottyback is a model citizen. He does stick up for himself, but totally ignores all the gentle fish.

@donknotts2880 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with dottybacks. Although, i have 1 that has been very nice to the other fish

@ericrichards3445 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got the same wallpaper m8 good taste

@mittro7097 3 жыл бұрын

i think the pyramid butterfly fish is a great substitute for powder blue tangs than the copperbanded butterfly

@eisenhauerd Жыл бұрын

Just brought home a copper banded butterfly and thought of this video. I couldn't help myself.

@petercashell4834 Жыл бұрын

Hi, Why can we see your wallpaper through the tank? Why no black background? What’s the thinking behind clear glass on both sides please? Peter

@reefkeepingandeverythingelse 4 жыл бұрын

I would add to the list the kleinii butterflys They may eat all your aiptasia But also they are quite unsafe with coral.

@jeffjeff5895 3 жыл бұрын

My first 3 fish i got: 2 damselfish and 1 of that purple with yellow tail. The purple one claimed my only rock and is bullying one of them and keeping him in a corner and it seems like the other damselfish is a good buddy with this purple one but they still do fight a bit

@keithstie 4 жыл бұрын

You have a nack at busting my chops! Some of the obvious ones I knew, like the angels, and the dory (that I'm going to try small, with my 140, but plan on selling when it gets too big), but the damsels were a surprise. And what do you have against tangs?! 🤨 I've heard that the order you load your tank helps with shy or territorial fish. Awesome, helpful video!

@i_cant_think8947 4 жыл бұрын

Yea, it does but tangs are slightly different when it comes to that, they will ‘attac’ the fish in the tank if they are smaller then the tang to show that the tang is the leader (we had that with our blue eye bristletooth tang)

@zachdemitro7875 Жыл бұрын

what kind of fish is that at the end with the yellow belly and black and white striping?

@Jessyp303 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t even have a fish tank or any intension of getting one so not sure how I ended up here, but I enjoyed your video none the less 😆

@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын

🤣 Glad to hear it. Go on, get yourself a tank - they're awesome 😁

@Fishslayer04 3 жыл бұрын

sailfin tang is a great one, not too expensive and is a good algae fish

@erikawilson1154 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. Changed my mind on all the fish on my wish list 😆. Do you have a video about starter marine fish and clean up crew that can all be kept together? Thanks.

@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын

How about a list of fish EVERY reef tank should have?? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erGhipaIz76lfmQ.html

@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын

And a list of awesome inverts... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7WUjZp4zOCtgIU.html

@erikawilson1154 3 жыл бұрын

@@ReefDork thanks im a total newby. Never had a marine tank before. Are marines harder to keep than discus? (I was unsuccessful) but have successfully kept other cichlids with ease.

@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын

From what I hear, Discus are a nightmare. If you just want to keep saltwater fish, they're not much harder than freshwater tropicals. Corals can be tricky but there are plenty of easy to keep corals to try out.

@erikawilson1154 3 жыл бұрын

@@ReefDork Amazing thanks. Do you have a facebook page i can follow and bug you more when the time comes when i get my marine tank. Erika

@meanmicro 2 жыл бұрын

I have 2 tanks with a copperband in each I’ve had them both for about 2 years no problems at all

@martyg374 4 жыл бұрын

I have had blue tangs with no problems in my 90 gal.

@pae913 4 жыл бұрын

...Are Damselfish the betta fish of saltwater tanks?

@gungbojog6030 3 жыл бұрын

Any wrasse suggestion that won't eat my shrimps or feather duster worms? Yellow wrasse wouldn't be a good suggestion

@arodmacias4990 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video like always... Hit that thumbs up button everyone...

@shineheretic 2 жыл бұрын

Pacific blue eye rainbow fish is a good marine peaceful schooling fish I’d suggest

@keithstie 3 жыл бұрын

When your talking about small tanks, like for your angel alternatives, how would you categorize a 140 gal? Spacifialy a Red Sea Peninsula 650.

@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын

Big tank that - not a lot of fish you can't keep in a 5 footer.

@erect4e369 4 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of other types of hardy, decently long living schooling cardinal fish that are a good alternative

@abhishekkumar-nd9ps 4 жыл бұрын

This is a great informative video,but if you could make a video on comple stockings ideas of diffrent capacity of tanks ,i mean which fish i could keep together in a red sea maxs 400/500/650 ,etc,please make a video on this topic ,it will help so Many first timers,thanks in advance.

@johngalactus4014 4 жыл бұрын

Mandarin Dragonet has to be one of those fishes to avoid (unless tank bred/raised)! They are challenging and I mean really challenging to get them eating unless you feed them live food such as copepods/brine but even so, they rarely eat until 'satisfied'. They usually lose their body fats & and die after a few months. I tried a couple but failed to get them eating. I even tried using the Paul Baldassano feeder method but the fish just refused to eat.