RHAENYS IS A LEGEND!!! | House of the Dragon 2x4 'The Red Dragon and the Gold' First Reaction!

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@ameliacraiig4193
@ameliacraiig4193 14 күн бұрын
Daemon *IS* fighting for Rhaenyra's cause, trying to assemble an army for her. He's not just chillin' in Harrenhal, y'know. Lol. Also in episode 1, he asked Rhaenys to hunt down & kill Vhagar with him to weaken the opposition, & to avenge Lucerys' death. She said no....
@gigiharris1430
@gigiharris1430 15 күн бұрын
5:23 “it’s giving bastard”. idk why this was so funny 😂😭😭
@seanlamont8501
@seanlamont8501 8 күн бұрын
That one made my day 😂😂😂😂
@ajw282
@ajw282 15 күн бұрын
“Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip she turned Meleys to her enemies” - George RR Martin ‘Fire and Blood’
@brianwilliams81
@brianwilliams81 14 күн бұрын
😢😢😢😭😭😭
@WirHyperboreer
@WirHyperboreer 14 күн бұрын
"Beloved daughter of Lady Jocelyn Baratheon and Prince Aemon Targaryen, faithful wife to Lord Corlys Velaryon, mother and grandmother, the Queen Who Never Was lived fearlessly, and died amidst blood and fire. She was fifty-five years old."
@azgardians
@azgardians 16 күн бұрын
the last look between meleys and rhaenys man… love that it shows the bond between a dragon and their rider and rhaenys latching herself to meleys so that if they die they’ll be together, didnt expect to be so emotional about their deaths but there were tears lol
@hali_55
@hali_55 16 күн бұрын
that look fucking killed me
@sproductionsinc
@sproductionsinc 15 күн бұрын
Yeah I didn't feel anything for Dany's dragons, but damn.. this hit me hard. I'm not looking forward to more dying.
@christinestreeter8566
@christinestreeter8566 15 күн бұрын
I was bawling…Meleys was like we tried, I’m sorry. 😢
@girlwiththeblues
@girlwiththeblues 15 күн бұрын
Rhaenys nodding to Meleys when she looks back... "You did great, my girl" 🥺💔
@shestewa6581
@shestewa6581 15 күн бұрын
I'm not usually an outwardly emotional person (tend to keep it in), but I swear I was going crazy when Rhaenys and Meleys were battling in this episode. I recall even shouting out "YES RHAENYS! GO FOR IT!" when she started strapping herself in for the end, despite wildly crying knowing the result because I've read the books. Rhaenys and Meleys are AMAZING. The Princess Rhaenys Targaryen, Queen who Should have Been & Meleys, the Red Queen. RIP. You both did amazing.
@Aerophage1771
@Aerophage1771 15 күн бұрын
5:20 "Yeah it's giving bastard 💅🏻"
@starsalignedits
@starsalignedits 15 күн бұрын
the way daemon was just playing luigi's haunted mansion instead of joining the fight he so desperately wanted is so funny 😭
@samuelreyes1689
@samuelreyes1689 15 күн бұрын
Rhaenys went out knowing she had to try to give the blacks a chance by trying to do some damage AND defend rooks rest. If she flew away she would’ve been abandoning Lord Staunton and his men/castle who are on rhaenyras council. And to me maybe it’s a redeeming moment for Luke’s death, like I’m not leaving this time, it’s on. 👏🏻she went out like a true Targaryen and my fav quote from Fire and Blood “Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe. Beloved daughter of Lady Jocelyn Baratheon and Prince Aemon Targaryen, faithful wife to Lord Corlys Velaryon, mother and grandmother, the Queen Who Never Was lived fearlessly, and died amidst blood and fire. She was fifty-five years old.” 🔥🙌🏻
@girlwiththeblues
@girlwiththeblues 15 күн бұрын
The Queen Who Never Was sacrificing herself to put another queen on the throne... incredible👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@fairycurls
@fairycurls 15 күн бұрын
the pained sounds of the dragons and even the fact that they are forced to fight each other is so heartbreaking. family against family is so tragic.
@KTS.
@KTS. 15 күн бұрын
I get what you’re saying but dragons fighting is nothing new to them they would’ve fought in the wild if they meet and given the opportunity but yeah those noises they make in battle sounds super painful!
@Taewills
@Taewills 15 күн бұрын
@@KTS.but most of these aren’t wild dragons. They’re like dogs. There are domesticated dogs and wild ones. Even wild dogs mourn for lost members of their pack. There’s nothing to indicate that dragons who fought alongside one another, grew up together, will not feel anything when forced to fight/ kill each other.
@fairycurls
@fairycurls 15 күн бұрын
@@Taewills exactly. the dragons have relationships with each other and grew together like family - being forced to fight to the death, confused in all of this mess that's changing how they need to act now.
@chcknfingrmafia9861
@chcknfingrmafia9861 14 күн бұрын
@@fairycurlsI agree. Meleys and Vhagar have history together. Before Aemond rode Vhagar, it was Laena Velaryon, Rhaenys’ daughter who was her rider. Before that Meleys and Vhagar’s riders were a married couple, Baelon and Alyssa Targaryen, Daemon and Viserys’ parents.
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 14 күн бұрын
@@KTS.They absolutely wouldn’t fight each other in the wild for no reason, wth ? Most of these young dragons are offspring of the older ones.
@angelvisuals
@angelvisuals 15 күн бұрын
Regardless of the outcome, Meleys took on two dragons and left one crippled, and she gave Vhager, the oldest dragon, a good beating before she died (meleys also knock down vhagar). People who say she was stupid to stay don't realize that she was trying to protect the people at Rook's Rest. Notice how she wasn't attacking the soldiers' but just simply destroying their equipment; all her attacks were strategized. Notice how she didn't say "Dracarys" but "Attack, Meleys." Yet she fought for her queen till death because she knew the feeling Rheanrya was feeling because she too had been denied of what was rightfully hers. Also, knowing that she could've prevented Lucery’s death that day of the coronation was even more motivation to fight to the death and protect the people from the rook's rest. Let’s also talk about how Team Black doesn’t use their dragons as war equipment and truly has a bond with them. Rhaenys, the queen who never was a true queen and icon, a legend!
@starsalignedits
@starsalignedits 15 күн бұрын
good take!! i think she was also hoping that since she either (from her pov) killed or seriously maimed sunfyre & aegon to get them out of the way, she was also hoping that she & meleys could wound vhagar enough to put her out of commission for a little bit... or at least be easier to take down by rhaenyra's dragons!! i also picked up on how aegon & aemond both said "dracarys", whereas rhaenys said "attack" - she was being strategic. i read an interesting take on tumblr about how if you look at it in a sense of g*ns, aegon & aemond were just blasting off attacks, whereas rhaenys was trying to dismantle the weapon itself. rip our best girls 💔💔
@Mcherri
@Mcherri 15 күн бұрын
Exactly the greens treat them as weapons besides aegon he loves his dragon I will give him that all the blacks have extremely close bonds even rhaenyera which says a lot from her and aemond honestly I believe syrax could’ve actually given vhagar a good fight as well yes she grew a bit lazy but one thing about rhaenyera she wouldn’t go down without a fight like rhaenys. Maybe even if rhaenys and rhaenyera went they both would’ve been stood a better chance at surviving.
@blsmcherry789
@blsmcherry789 14 күн бұрын
Yes!! Really wonderful points. She stayed longer to confirm that Vhagar was down/injured before trying to leave for Dragonstone too. I also think it's her way of taking a stand about the whole "wHy dIdNT yOu dO aNyThinG" and doing what needs to be done but in a strategic way. Her and her dragon's skills and experience really shined through and I hope more people recognize that instead of just it being a suicide mission, stupid, etc.
@gaborkiss650
@gaborkiss650 10 күн бұрын
Rhaenys is a legend. It was also stupid to go back. Two things can be true at the same time.
@ericlayton8888
@ericlayton8888 14 күн бұрын
Alicent: Do you think wearing the crown imbues you with wisdom? Me: Did you think forcing it onto his head would imbue him with humility?
@idkimjustafan
@idkimjustafan 12 күн бұрын
!!!
@barbaragenshin9848
@barbaragenshin9848 11 күн бұрын
Ikr i was shocked at her audacity to even say that
@fatimasaadeh6518
@fatimasaadeh6518 9 күн бұрын
Do you think giving birth makes you a good mother?
@corsicanlulu
@corsicanlulu 5 күн бұрын
@@fatimasaadeh6518 damn! exactly!😂😏😩
@tylerbramhall6596
@tylerbramhall6596 15 күн бұрын
“It’s giving bastard” 😂
@ManInBlack1988
@ManInBlack1988 15 күн бұрын
Rheanys’ kindness towards Corly’s bastard ❤️ .. Catlyn Stark could never.
@WirHyperboreer
@WirHyperboreer 14 күн бұрын
To be fair, that was probably before they got married. He seems older than their children.
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 14 күн бұрын
@@WirHyperboreerHe doesn’t seem older. Him and his brother look around the age Laena and Laenor would be now. Pretty sure in the book he also cheated.
@zawa7497
@zawa7497 14 күн бұрын
catelyn is a top tier character,one of the most important povs who is defended by grrm himself. Lmao rhaenys could never be her
@Dylan_Thomas1
@Dylan_Thomas1 14 күн бұрын
@@zawa7497 Hard disagree on your last line. And GRRM's a genius, author's words are powerful, but in many respects they hold exactly as much weight as a die-hard fan's words, especially when discussing/interpreting character flaws & virtues from the text as is. Not that you'd disagree, but there's like maybe at least a 50-50 chance you would if using that point to prop Catelyn up.
@zawa7497
@zawa7497 14 күн бұрын
@@Dylan_Thomas1 I'm just saying... Rhaenys is a 2D character meanwhile catelyn is one of the most complex characters written by grrm. There's no comparison bcs catelyn solos
@deondremorris7803
@deondremorris7803 15 күн бұрын
its even more fucked up when you remember that Vhagar was her daughters dragon 😭
@Helluspropellus
@Helluspropellus 14 күн бұрын
And that Meleys and Vhagar were bonded to a married couple (Viserys and Daemon’s parents)
@jasmineg_63
@jasmineg_63 15 күн бұрын
7:25 I love how we all collectively hate Criston
@hali_55
@hali_55 16 күн бұрын
One thing I love about shows like GoT and HOTD is that they can take a character like Aegon and make him an underdog. They had every opportunity to make him a one-note villain but instead they chose to highlight his biggest flaws while also showing that he was forced into a role he was completely unprepared for and somehow everyone blames him for it. Hits rock bottom after his conversation with Alicent and chooses to do the bravest thing a King can do which is go to battle with their armed forces - only to then fall to his potential death.
@zachphoenix4522
@zachphoenix4522 15 күн бұрын
my problem with hotd so far is that they made aegon a rapist and bets on children in fighting pits, only to turn around and pretend to be some sort of hero to the small folk. It completely ruins the "underdog" thing that they're attempting to do, and it'll never sway me to his side.
@hali_55
@hali_55 15 күн бұрын
@@zachphoenix4522 I think he can exist as an underdog without being absolved of his past sins or being on his side. It’s like a mixture of jaime lannister & book tyrion if you get what I mean. It just adds a lot of depth to his character.
@KimM13744
@KimM13744 15 күн бұрын
Right? I’m Team Black but I’ve really liked Aegon this season. Otto and Alicent should have raised him to be a King if they wanted him to be one but they neglected him (and his siblings), now he is completely unprepared for a position he was forced into and didn’t even want.
@KTS.
@KTS. 15 күн бұрын
@@KimM13744yup they got exactly what they asked for and now they are complaining about how he is and they MADE HIM THAT WAY
@mamaseesa3122
@mamaseesa3122 15 күн бұрын
​@zachphoenix4522 I get what you're saying. But the vibe I got from his previous actions was 'rich kid that's never had consequences'. There's a difference between malicious r*pe and opportunist. He didn't grab Dyana intending to do her harm, he just wanted his pleasure and didn't care if she was willing. He didn't think 'I'm going to purposely hurt this woman both mentally and physically', he just saw something he liked and took it without realizing how bad it was because nobody has ever given this guy instructions to anything beyond being able to feed himself and wipe his own butt. He has no true grasp of good and bad, just what he wants and doesn't want. If he'd been given guidance, he wouldn't be the type to SA I believe. Very similar to today's rich kids who get away with anything because their daddy pays off a judge. Still sickening, still horrible, but not the same as someone who would SA because they wanted to hurt their victim on purpose. He literally called Dyana's SA 'a bit of fun' because that's all he saw it as, nothing more. Which fits everything else in his character.
@hali_55
@hali_55 16 күн бұрын
Sunfyre the Golden, the prettiest and best boy 🥹🫶🏾
@HM-lb9ol
@HM-lb9ol 15 күн бұрын
“Daemon where the fuck were you? Made me LoL. Crazy episode felt it with you on the rewatch.
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 14 күн бұрын
The saddest thing is... Daemon actually asked Rhaenys to hunt Vhagar with him in episode 1 and she said no. Consequences. Meleys and Caraxes could take on Vhagar with ease together. Meleys would have a shot against her if not for Sunfyre there.
@MaesterKamus
@MaesterKamus 14 күн бұрын
Damon not giving anything away forever. USELESS.
@lunabirdlove
@lunabirdlove 16 күн бұрын
Oh what? lmao I am not a book reader but I read that scene as aegon definitely being alive. I think cole would've been A LOT more freaked out if he was dead. I didn't even realize people were questioning whether or not he was alive.
@crystalpritchard5065
@crystalpritchard5065 15 күн бұрын
They also didn’t show the body, I never trust that someone is dead if they don’t show their body. I think he’s alive too, but severely injured.
@spookyspooks33
@spookyspooks33 15 күн бұрын
well the way he drops to his knees made me feel like he was definitely dead & they did show his body thatsss why i believed he was dead.
@sproductionsinc
@sproductionsinc 15 күн бұрын
@@crystalpritchard5065 You can see his body. You just can't tell if he's breathing or not.
@emelymarie4171
@emelymarie4171 15 күн бұрын
I think people who think that Aegon was dead at the end of the ep is because they didn’t watch the preview where they say they don’t know the condition of aegon while he’s laying in the bed
@nadiar.4638
@nadiar.4638 14 күн бұрын
​@@spookyspooks33 but why would Aemond grab his sword if Aegon was already dead
@poisonkiss201
@poisonkiss201 15 күн бұрын
bawled my eyes out when they both died😭 i knew it was coming from early in the episode but i really wanted her to live😭
@hali_55
@hali_55 16 күн бұрын
Rhaenyra did drink moon tea in s1 after sleeping with Criston. Larys told Alicent and that’s how she realised Rhaenyra had lied to her about sleeping with someone which was the final nail in their friendship.
@markgrinker9075
@markgrinker9075 15 күн бұрын
the way how the exact same thing is happening now w Alicent is poetic in a weird way LOL
@mizzdiiva92
@mizzdiiva92 15 күн бұрын
@@markgrinker9075None of them want Cristons babies 😭
@skills4u2envy
@skills4u2envy 13 күн бұрын
@@markgrinker9075 It even happened in the same bed lol since Alicent is now in Rhaenyra's old room
@thomasluke-wp8or
@thomasluke-wp8or 14 күн бұрын
Allicent wasn't being snakey, it's the truth. If viserys' intentions somehow became known and believed it wouldn't stop the war.
@wiebki
@wiebki 13 күн бұрын
Yea I also understood it as "well now it doesn't matter what he wanted because there is no way to stop this war". I think she personally does care, that's why she is reading all those books, trying to find the truth.
@thomasluke-wp8or
@thomasluke-wp8or 13 күн бұрын
@wiebki exactly! Rhaenys was correct, allicent does not want this war but she knows there isn't any way of preventing it. Especially given how otto was planning on installing aegon even before allicent thought viserys changed his mind. I think allicent is gonna be a really interesting character going forwards as she struggles to justify her past decisions. This next bit spoilery for the future so skip the rest of the comment if you want but i wonder if allicent will be the mystery one who poisons aegon after the dance
@kimcottingham8043
@kimcottingham8043 15 күн бұрын
Hope Eve sees how much of fans have loved her!! RIP
@sarah.the.clumsy
@sarah.the.clumsy 14 күн бұрын
Aemond: eloquent speech in High Valyrian Aegon: i cAn hAZ cHeEzbUrGer?
@tiffanyhill-rice5126
@tiffanyhill-rice5126 13 күн бұрын
I just screamed at this LMFAO
@Ari-ov8vw
@Ari-ov8vw 14 күн бұрын
Definitely cried for Rhaenys but I also sobbed for all the dragons. IDC what color they were, the dragons deserved better 😭 Meleys and Sunfyre ❤
@babykermie
@babykermie 15 күн бұрын
“Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe.” - Fire and Blood
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 14 күн бұрын
None of the greens can relate.
@sabrinaf506
@sabrinaf506 13 күн бұрын
I don’t think Alicent telling Larys that Viserys’ intentions no longer matter is her being a snake, it’s her coming to terms with reality. They’ve passed a point of no return and she was right that both sides will continue to think they’re justified, regardless of any peaceful intervention. There simply is no going back and, at this point, it’s a matter of winning or dying (just like Cersei told Ned in GOT). I think she’s finally come to a point where she can’t keep pretending to herself that her cause is a righteous one; no matter who wins, a lot of people and dragons will die, and I think she finally sees how futile it all is.
@Krobra91
@Krobra91 15 күн бұрын
Meleys and Rhaenys have been paired for 44 years folks! Their bond is DEEP! She doesn't need to say "Dracarys" to order her. Simple connection of mere words and looks is all they need both are Queens denied their rightful status. Meleys was the fastest and possibly smartest and battle hardened. Vhagar at this point was well over 150 years old and slow.. only her size made her formidable. Meleys was always in Vhagars shadow and overlooked. The queen that never was.... being passed over an heir to the throne to her brother visarys. Both were queens trying to find their place in the world after. The writers over a year ago and actress eva best drew inspiration from functional and real world female figures who were passed over even tho they were well qualified. (Politics aside) Hillary Clintons 2016 loss to Donal Trump for the presidency was one of those moments they drew inspiration from.. the thought of someone being extremely qualified still being defined by their gender... and trying to figure out what to do afterwards .... Rhaeneys and Meleys both represent that
@Izaz-ke7dt
@Izaz-ke7dt 14 күн бұрын
Hilary Clinton didnt loose bc shes a woman. She's a horrible person who ran a bad campaign and trump is a charismatic demogouge and a narcissist. She still won the pop vote. If she was a man she wouldve still lost bc she wasnt trusted
@MrAjpurdue
@MrAjpurdue 15 күн бұрын
The blacks have an army of banner men, they just have to me amassed. Daemon is trying to garrison them at haarrenhal.
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 14 күн бұрын
Huge ass (Vhagar-sized) comment answering all your questions and comments during the episode. For anyone interested in reading. Team Black does have an army. Houses Lannister and Baratheon support the greens. The Tyrells are Lords of the Reach, where Hightowers come from. The show is yet to say what they decided. The Riverlands is House Tully: undeclared as of now. The Vale and the North: Team Black. Dragons for Team Green: Vhagar (the only threat). Sunfyre (out of commission). Tessarion (Daeron). Helaena rides Dreamfyre, but she won't go to battle. Dragons for Team Black: Caraxes (biggest threat). Meleys (dead now). Syrax (in the book, doesn't ride into battle, but they barely follow the book). Vermax. Moondancer. Tyraxes. Arrax died with Luke. Stormcloud is little Aegon's dragon, but he is 4 in the show (9 in the book). Riderless dragons: Seasmoke. Vermithor. Silverwing. + Wild dragons who nest in Dragonstone: Sheepstealer. Grey Ghost. The Cannibal. About your thoughts on what Rhaenys meant about Alyn... trying not to spoil too much, but your interpretation is on the right track. Remember he also has a brother called Addam and there was foreshadowing with him in ep 2. Viserys sent Rhaenyra moon tea after Daemon implies sleeping with her. She probably drank it as she didn't get pregnant. Larys told Alicent, which made her question Criston thinking Rhaenyra lied to her about Daemon. discovering she slept with Criston. Then she decides Rhaenyra is the worst, wears her little green war dress and saves Criston. Which is hilarious bc now she's the one fucking Criston. And yes, she also gave Dyanna, the teen maid Aegon assaulted, moon tea and probably does it for all the servants he assaults (remember how he goes to look for Jaehaerys and all the maids got tense?). But she can't get to all the girls he fucks around KL, so it's implied he has some bastards lying around. Fun fact about Aemond's High Valyrian: He butchered both phrasing and grammar last season and his pronunciation is a travesty. Probably the worst Dracarys ever said. The creator of the language posts tidbits about it. Said he had fun writing the wrong Valyrian for Aegon. The greens not knowing much is on point. They're not raised within the Valyrian traditions. Probably know a bit more than dragon commands and that's it. Aemond actually speaks with Vhagar in common tongue during his chase of Lucerys, which could be why she doesn't listen (show invention, he murdered Luke very much on purpose bc he's a loser and one of Borros' daughters allegedly emasculated him by saying Luke took not only his eye but his balls). Aegon also says "Forward Sunfyre" this very episode lmao Poor dragon was probably so confused thinking they were going to fly, his pet human all drunk, and then he got bodied. Can anyone else understand them? The Grand Maester should. He's the maester for House Targaryen, a Valyrian house. Helaena. Poor girl. A victim of her own family's greed. Forced to marry Aegon at 13 and have his kids, then was trapped in this marriage. Her and Aegon were supposed to have another son, but the show cut him. Maelor was around 3. The twins, Jaehaerys and Jaehaera (named after King Jaehaerys, subtle) were supposed to be 6. During B&C, they ask which son they should kill and she chooses Maelor bc he is young, but they kill Jaehaerys and mocked her, telling Maelor she wanted him dead. They all watched Jaehaerys die and she was unable to look Maelor in the eye after, going mad after that and essentially staying mad for the entire dance. Her visions are also a show invention, a way for them to speak with the audience that knows what happens. She's not a real dragon dreamer, and dreams should be premonitions but not a constant whisper of everything that will happen such as show!Helaena. Real dreamers: Daenys the dreamer, Aegon the conqueror (semi-canon, but not confirmed in the books nor by GRRM himself), Daeron the drunk, Daemon II Blackfyre, Maester Aemon, and of course, the one and only Daenerys Targaryen. Harrenhal not only potentially cursed for the reasons Alys said (the Riverlands were First Men, who followed the Old Gods. House Blackwood still does), but Aegon the conqueror destroyed the castle with dragonfire during the conquest. Balerion melted half of it laying siege and it never recovered. From the conquest to GOT times, most Houses that held Harrenhal have been extinct. Not confirmed. But the Blackwood guy most likely is the kid who killed another dude during Rhaenyra's tour for suitors in ep 4. The Battle of the Burning Mill was a victory for the Blackwoods actually. Their Lord died but they won. They were already declared and fighting for Rhaenyra. House Blackwood is one of GRRM favorite houses and you know which side is right when they are fighting for that side. They haven't appeared yet and some were cut. But he mentioned Benjicot "Bloody Ben" Blackwood, an 11yo maniac who fought for Rhaenyra. He and the Tully boy Oscar are to be friends. They merged Oscar with his father Elmo and his older brother Kermit. Ben, Kermit and Oscar formed the Lads, important Team Black loyalists, who won many battles alongside Ben's aunt Alysanne "Black Aly" Blackwood (so far not yet cast) and Sabitha Frey (Aly and Sabitha rumored to be lovers). "You always have been my dumbest kid" LMAO Her smartest kid was actually Daeron. The only one to be knighted. He was the better strategist and warrior for the greens. Led many battles and a lot of his traits were given to Aemond, who was actually just a self-centered psychopath, only caring about antagonizing Lucerys/Rhaenyra and going after Daemon. Daemon seeing himself as Aemond is part of the foreshadowing of their eventual meet-up but unlike what the show (and Aemond) wants us to believe, Daemon doesn't give a shit about him and definitely isn't afraid. The only trump card is Vhagar, she's the real threat and what Daemon is cautious about. "He wasn't even good" Viserys is not particularly remembered as a good king or a bad one. But he was weak, easily manipulated and his weakness is what made the dance possible. He named Rhaenyra first to punish Daemon, but then never changed his mind even having three sons. But he essentially sets her up. One example is having Otto as Hand again after he fired him exactly because he knew Otto wanted Aegon to be king. As far as Targaryens kings go, he's mid. Not one of the greats, not one of the worst. Suing for peace is a show-only invention. Rhaenyra said she would have her throne or kill Aegon from the beginning (she does promise to spare all her half-siblings if he bends the knee). But once Lucerys dies, it's war declared and it's over. LMaelor missing and wild age changes are a problem for the future. Even GRRM recently said so in his blog post, that Maelor missing from B&C and the show will have consequences. Little Aegon and Viserys, Rhaenyra and Daemon's boys, were supposed to be 9 and 7, but are 4 and 2. Joffrey is 6, but was supposed to be 12. This affects future events. Rook's Rest was supposed to happen 6 to 9 months after Viserys' died. The timeline is a mess. Aegon "ruled" for quite a while before what happened. They rushed through nine months of battles and build-up while saying it's been just a few weeks. That will complicate things in the future too. Aegon was in on the plan in the book. It's said Meleys could have easily killed Sunfyre, as she does kick his ass, but could have taken on Vhagar if not for Sunfyre there to help. Vhagar is huge but also old, slow, and heavy, and Aemond has been riding her for a short while (9 years in the book, 6 in the show). Sunfyre is an adult, but super young still. Only 20-something max, and Aegon has been riding him for 9 years. Meleys is said to be the fastest. An adult fully mature but still young, around 75yo. Rhaenys has been riding her for 42 years. Unlike what she says here, they have never been to battle though. Especially considering Rhaenyra said she inherited 80 years of peace. Which is a half-truth. Jaehaerys' reign was mostly peaceful, but there were small squabbles here and there. Vhagar is a war veteran, not only from the conquest but after Rhaenys' father was accidentally killed by Myrish Pirates invading Tarth, Daemon's father, Baelon Targaryen, slew thousands with Vhagar to avenge him. Rhaenys had been pregnant with Laena, so he never met his granddaughter. After that, Baelon was named heir by the King, supplanting Rhaenys. And when Baelon died a decade later, they called for the Council shown during the pilot and it eventually chose Viserys over Laenor/Rhaenys. Baelon rode Vhagar. Meleys was the dragon of his wife, Princess Alyssa, mother of Daemon and Viserys. Caraxes was Aemon's dragon and they all flew together often. So the battle is extra sad, because Vhagar was once bonded with Rhaenys' daughter and uncle, and she kills both her and Meleys. "Daemon where the fuck were you?" Funny thing is, show!Daemon said to Rhaenys: "let's go hunt Vhagar, together we can take her down, let's avenge Lucerys, Rhaenyra is out there alone, what if she meets Aemond?" Rhaenys denied him. He even tried to order her and she said he wasn't the king. This is a show addition bc in the book Daemon leaves for Harrenhal before Lucerys is killed and B&C is done by raven. Mysaria (still in King's Landing, bc they can't go inside despite the show taking both Daemon and Rhaenyra there as if it was the easiest thing to infiltrate mid-war) is the one to hire them, not Daemon. And it makes it more tragic bc if she had listened to him, they would have won the war right then and there. Aemond is now a twice/thrice kinslayer. Luke, Rhaenys, Aegon(?). Aemond the kinslayer is his moniker in the book and what he is known for during the dance (before that was Aemond One-Eye).
@harwwy
@harwwy 15 күн бұрын
5:20 "its giving bastard" LMAOOOOOOO!!!
@docphil1026
@docphil1026 16 күн бұрын
Alyn is corlys bastard thats why she said your mother must have been beautiful!
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 14 күн бұрын
His mother was Rhaenyra's age and Alyn and Addam were supposed to be Jace and Luke's age too. Marilda of Hull was also supposed to be alive and Rhaenys probably never knew (maybe she suspected but oh well).
@angelvisuals
@angelvisuals 15 күн бұрын
The saddest part for me is when Meleys is fighting Vhagar, and she must’ve been thinking, “Why am I fighting my sister?” They had previously grown up together for two whole generations, and to be fighting must’ve been such a devastating feeling for her. 🥺
@mariliaprado1245
@mariliaprado1245 15 күн бұрын
They don’t care if they are fighting their “parent” or “sister/ brother”. Dragons don’t feel like that for each other. Meleys was more worry about Rhaenys.
@moreganwilliams1174
@moreganwilliams1174 15 күн бұрын
The dragons aren’t loyal to anyone but their riders lmfaooo. She felt nothing about fighting her sister. Just like how Vhagar felt nothing when she killed her old riders mother, a woman she knew for years.
@SsLA2313
@SsLA2313 14 күн бұрын
i was thinking dragons fighting dragons, they must feel the way way sir erryk and sir arryk felt fighting each other.
@moreganwilliams1174
@moreganwilliams1174 14 күн бұрын
@@SsLA2313 The symbolism is there, definitely. Fighting your own kin and destroying them which is in a way, destroying yourself. But dragons don’t feel feelings like that for other dragons. They love their riders
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 14 күн бұрын
@@mariliaprado1245That’s not show canon as we’ve seen Syrax grief her child alongside Rhaenyra on the beach.
@blsmcherry789
@blsmcherry789 14 күн бұрын
Turning towards the water makes me think Rhaenys was going to go back to Dragonstone but before that she was trying to confirm that Vhagar was down/injured or dead on the ground. Unfortunately... Granny Vhagar is too good at sneak attacks.
@stormy2184
@stormy2184 15 күн бұрын
RIP badass queens...
@Dancemish2416
@Dancemish2416 15 күн бұрын
Wonder if there’s a chance laenor hears bout his mom’s death and comes back to fight w his dragon to get revenge. Also so sad she never found out he’s still alive.
@RS-bn1ty
@RS-bn1ty 14 күн бұрын
Poor Sunfyre just wanted to go for a little dragon walk with his best bud, that little happy roar when going around kings landing to screeching to save Aegon. I feel sorry for the dragons, screw the human😂
@peaboss
@peaboss 12 күн бұрын
"i think i can eat an arrow" Felt like Zuff thing to say.
@brandonh4195
@brandonh4195 14 күн бұрын
I think if meleys hadn’t fought sunfyre at all, her and rhaenys would’ve definitely had a chance against aemond and vhagar. Meleys brought vhagar to the floor and scratched her up, imagine if she hadn’t just fought sunfyre? She could’ve just kept dropping vhagar from the sky until it caused enough damage or even killed aemond which would just neutralise vhagar.
@jasmineg_63
@jasmineg_63 15 күн бұрын
5:08 the way Corlys not only had one bastard... he went back and had another kid with her again. I know Rhaenys d¡ed hurt af. Corlys when I catch you...
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 14 күн бұрын
let’s be delusional and hope they’re twins lol
@712mags
@712mags 15 күн бұрын
It's now called plan tea instead of plan b 😂
@meganb8172
@meganb8172 14 күн бұрын
To answer your question yes I believe Rhaenyra did drink the tea, Viserys had it sent up to her as a “precaution” after her night out with Daemon, with him not knowing about Criston. Also “it’s giving bastard” killed me too 😂😂😂
@gee2541
@gee2541 14 күн бұрын
Aemond definitely saw his chance to hurt Aegon but there wasn’t really a way to get Meleys off of Sunfyre anyway so Aegon was gonna be hurt no matter what. Him waiting that long put Aegon in that position though; he should have gone right away.
@Mary-uq4ww
@Mary-uq4ww 9 күн бұрын
Rhaenys and Meleys have been bonded for 42 years, that last look...
@nani.burgos
@nani.burgos 15 күн бұрын
Well.. Daemon told Rhaenys in the first episode that they have to attack Vhagar together but she didn't listen to him 27:51
@Taewills
@Taewills 15 күн бұрын
They didn’t have Rhaenyra’s permission. Tactically they could’ve drawn out Vhagar together after Rhaenyra came back and said “I want Aemond Targaryen”. Instead of the failed assassination attempt. But that would’ve made the story much shorter 😂
@betteryourlife865
@betteryourlife865 15 күн бұрын
She didn’t know Vhagar was gonna be there…or else she’d probably not have gone alone.
@Taewills
@Taewills 15 күн бұрын
@@betteryourlife865 do you want to read my comment again? Take your time bc ur response isn’t even discussing the same episode
@flapjackalopis711
@flapjackalopis711 11 күн бұрын
@@Taewills im pretty sure they weren't responding to you, they were responding to the original comment lol
@sivannatalie
@sivannatalie 15 күн бұрын
“Run into the fire!” 😂😂😂
@almajortiz
@almajortiz 14 күн бұрын
12:53 😂 thats exactly what I said! He’s elsewhere fighting his demons all because of a haunted house & bed 🛌 lol
@gee2541
@gee2541 14 күн бұрын
Why would anyone want Aegon to die? Even if you dislike the character, he’s so entertaining to watch 😆
@taneshah.1260
@taneshah.1260 15 күн бұрын
I'm SO mad about Auntie Rhaenys. 😭 I loved her.
@sivannatalie
@sivannatalie 15 күн бұрын
Rhaenys was Viserys’ cousin, not his sister.
@PulitoZF
@PulitoZF 15 күн бұрын
​@@sivannatalieThat's not what she meant 😂
@taneshah.1260
@taneshah.1260 13 күн бұрын
@@PulitoZF You get it, LOL.
@taneshah.1260
@taneshah.1260 13 күн бұрын
@@sivannatalie I'm aware...
@roxysdg334
@roxysdg334 14 күн бұрын
I am stunned no one is talking about how Valeris has only been day 2-3 weeks per Alecent talk with Laryis ! She was holding her belly looked like she might be showing a little. No matter what she was screwing Christen Cole while the king was still alive because she would not know she was pregnant already if they started after the king died. This relationship has been going on way longer than anyone knows. Those two are horrible people and the biggest Hippocrates EVER!
@gemini36B
@gemini36B 14 күн бұрын
Not Anthony Davis 😂 caught a dam stray 😂
@thatgirlinokc3975
@thatgirlinokc3975 15 күн бұрын
The battle was so good! Exciting, emotional and lots of fire 🔥 Love your reactions to this series 😊
@OPedroVilaNova
@OPedroVilaNova 14 күн бұрын
Here we finally had the necessary evidence to clarify the information in the book: Meleys would definitely beat Vhagar one on one head on, not in a suicide attack like Caraxes, but she would win and stay alive, despite being seriously injured. Another point is his absolute battle experience and greater size in black, which is stated for Rhaenys. Meleys is legendary and has a basically rational connection with Rhaenys, which also confirms the greatest connection that has ever existed between knight and dragon. They were glorious.
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 15 күн бұрын
Outstanding episode! Rhaenys and Meleys went out like warriors and they went out with honor. I'm hoping the blacks start racking up some wins because they're just not winning in my opinion. Let Zuff know he's in my thoughts and sending him lots of good karma and peaceful vibes.
@edwincatalan5000
@edwincatalan5000 10 күн бұрын
"Daemon where the fuck were you , am pissed " men i get the feeling and that was the words everyone one said. Great reacción video lol.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 15 күн бұрын
and just to point out... Balerion the Dread, the dragon that torched Heranhaul - was even bigger than Vhagar. think about that for a minute
@stew-03
@stew-03 15 күн бұрын
And Vhagar and Balerion are both downsized in the show. Balerions skull is so large in the books that he could literally swallow a mammoth whole.
@lauritavanessaescalantemor2149
@lauritavanessaescalantemor2149 12 күн бұрын
One of the craziest episodes this season… I cried a lot 😢
@thomasluke-wp8or
@thomasluke-wp8or 14 күн бұрын
I love how you can see both of sunfyres parents in him ❤️💛 Greens have 3 dragons (not including critically injured sunfyre), blacks have 4 (not including meleys.) The greens have a monumental advantage in the war at the moment
@cristinaolmos8403
@cristinaolmos8403 13 күн бұрын
I literally BALLED MY EYES OUT so bad!! Rhaenys was my favourite character, such an amazing strong woman, she will be deeply missed. She would've been such a powrful hand to Rhaenyra! And poor innocent baby Sunfyre just thought he was going for a flight with his beloved ryder, poor baby didn't deserve any of this, I really hope he survive
@godsson231
@godsson231 14 күн бұрын
I will always have the hugest crush on BRYCE like he’s gorgeous and smart PERFECTION for my soul
@auntvesuvi3872
@auntvesuvi3872 15 күн бұрын
Thanks, Rob! Thanks, Bryce! 🐲
@nimbe0
@nimbe0 15 күн бұрын
Hi, so the in GOT they took away almost all the magic that is in the books and without spoiler something important what is happening to Daemond is this... Harrenhall is next to a isle in which the children of the forrest used to lived and worshiped the old gods and until that time many heart tress survived. Then Harren The Black bring down the trees near to the isle and in that place he ordered to construct his castle and a bed with that wood, that's why Daemond is tripping, because that wood is special. Alice Rivers was considered a very important witch and she knows a lot of magic from the children, what she gave to Daemond is something that makes him to hallucinate in order to make him understand every single error that he have comited.
@docphil1026
@docphil1026 16 күн бұрын
you are correct about rhanera drinking the tea and alicent getting upset about it. Alicent is very much a hypocrite
@kat309
@kat309 15 күн бұрын
I mean I'd say she was more upset about the lie than anything else. The tea was just how she found out
@marcs1951
@marcs1951 13 күн бұрын
20:25.. bryce"i think I can eat a arrow"rob "yeah right...lol
@Brax_Rx
@Brax_Rx 15 күн бұрын
I love your guys reactions! Bryce is so 🔥
@spookyspooks33
@spookyspooks33 15 күн бұрын
ultimately sad for the dragons. but angry that sir criston is still alive, If he doesn’t die by the end of this season I will be so mad.
@Nursejalen
@Nursejalen 15 күн бұрын
For future reference vhagar is a female dragon
@DaysieRose
@DaysieRose 14 күн бұрын
"Sounds like Larys figured it all out." 😂 I love your reactions. I'm a fan of the Interview with the Vampire book and Fire and blood and I absolutely adore watching you guys react to all my favorite stuff. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 14 күн бұрын
Team Green has 4 dragons, but with Sunfyre burned and battered, currently the only battle dragon is Vhagar. With Meleys's death, Team Black has 6 dragons, but 2 of them belong to Rhaenyra's younger children (who are too young to ride in battle), which leaves only 4. There are additional dragons who live on Dragonstone, so beyond Team Green reach, but they as they are currently not ridden, they are not much help to Team Black either as of now.
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 15 күн бұрын
I'm with you Rob. Daemon is off fucking around in a haunted castle and missing the war he wanted so damn bad.
@cherrybomber69
@cherrybomber69 14 күн бұрын
Its only the beginning
@withxoutxlife
@withxoutxlife 14 күн бұрын
Yep. If he hadn't fucked off to do his own thing, he could have been there to tag-team Vhagar like he wanted to earlier in the season. Instead he's off being haunted by his own guilty conscience while his wife is losing pieces on her chess board.
@Daniella040
@Daniella040 14 күн бұрын
Vhagar is a grandma.. Nana Vhagar is a old SHE😂💜 .. And Daemon is coming for blood
@DoubleBlack2.0
@DoubleBlack2.0 14 күн бұрын
6:02 Thank you for this part. Truly. I was worried we were gonna gloss right over that.
@Zan823
@Zan823 11 күн бұрын
Considering the dragons 🐉 take commands in high Valerian. I was i little worried when the King 🤴 couldn't speak it.
@snarkysquirrel
@snarkysquirrel 13 күн бұрын
this episode was so good. daemon is going mad with his own guilty thoughts. i would not have drank that mystery witch brew. rhaenys was so classy, wise, and bad ass. she started the episode by telling her husband that he should legitimize his bastard instead of hiding him after he saved his life. that is big of her. that's an heir when their own children are dead. and one that knows the sea like he was wanting for driftmark. then she was wise and leading at council. she should have been made hand officially. she certainly was acting as hand to the queen. she was the best at advising and will be very missed as a voice of reason. her poor grandkids just lose everyone. but she was so good in that fight. skilled and smart. she had the longest bond with her dragon and the most experience and it showed. the looks they gave each other broke my heart. poor meleys, she was amazing. alicent was so brutal with aegon. he may be bad at this but its still not cool to plan behind his back. he's very alone in this position he never wanted, being treated like a burden. he didn't ask for this. not that he doesn't suck, but he sucks because his family sucks. and aemond took his revenge on him for last week. both in the meeting and on the dragon. aemond is back to being very cruel. again I think a product of his environment. there was no love anywhere there for those kids growing up. I'm glad cole didn't die because I want him to feel the weight of the consequences of what he did. he was so cocky in his plan and so many died and the king...well aemond wouldn't have been trying to finish him off if he wasn't still alive. but how close to not alive is yet to be seen. and sunfyre was so beautiful. seems to be alive but not by much. none of the dragons deserve this. they are family and this isn't their argument.
@marisapereyra5436
@marisapereyra5436 15 күн бұрын
I was screaming for Rhaenys to fly away too 😭💔
@2kooldancin
@2kooldancin 14 күн бұрын
I think Daemon sees himself as Aemond bc they are 2 sides of the same coin. They mirror each other in a lot of ways. They need to duke it out at some point. It wld be epic!
@MrAjpurdue
@MrAjpurdue 15 күн бұрын
Rhenyera also drank that tea in season 1
@chiaravallini532
@chiaravallini532 14 күн бұрын
I am still crying … that fight was hard to watch
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518
@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 14 күн бұрын
Rhaneyra had gotten moon tea after night with Criston but it was never shown if she drank it.
@11ibi
@11ibi 15 күн бұрын
Rhaenys was already a badass but the way she went out was truly iconic taking out aegon who let’s be honest was a pretty useless king now the bigger threat is Aemond what a episode
@zawa7497
@zawa7497 14 күн бұрын
taking out aegon? Where? Sunfyre would survive those injuries if aemond didn't burn him
@necal2263
@necal2263 14 күн бұрын
idk how long you guys film the shows in between, but my home boi Zuff been gone for a while. He doing ok?
@yasminemixon9340
@yasminemixon9340 14 күн бұрын
Go to community of their channel and scroll down a bit, they made a post on what's going on with zuff
@necal2263
@necal2263 14 күн бұрын
@@yasminemixon9340 thank you ☺️
@user-np4gr2je2q
@user-np4gr2je2q 14 күн бұрын
Its funny people are mad at Daemon for not being there when literally in episode 1 he asked Rhaenys to hunt Vhagar with him and then everybody was mad because he was crashing out in ep 1 now that he's not there people are mad this shit is hilarious
@Helluspropellus
@Helluspropellus 14 күн бұрын
The thing people are upset about is that he is acting on his own wants instead of Rhaenyra’s orders. Him going rouge instead of being available to receive Rhaenyra’s orders makes him a bad ally and causes situations like these
@user-np4gr2je2q
@user-np4gr2je2q 14 күн бұрын
@@Helluspropellus this situation is in no way Daemon's fault Rhaenyra's inaction and bad decision making is at fault She literally sent Rhaenys right into a trap without thinking Vhagar would be there.
@JohtoJordan
@JohtoJordan 14 күн бұрын
Only things about this episode I was sure on was Rhaenys doing a pretty shit job of taking out the army. Only attacking those close to the castle who were already riddled with arrows, when the real threat was at the tree line.
@DoubleBlack2.0
@DoubleBlack2.0 14 күн бұрын
6:22 Nope, you’re 100% correct! That’s exactly what happened.
@susanleach9106
@susanleach9106 14 күн бұрын
Don’t forget the son in old town.
@DesAnanieva
@DesAnanieva 14 күн бұрын
Is it cold in the place you shoot? I am watching this reaction almost naked, the AC is on... outside - hell 😅
@bluehope42
@bluehope42 14 күн бұрын
I don't condone the Aegon hate. The poor guy only gets love from Sunfyre. Alicent and Otto ruined him.
@barbaragenshin9848
@barbaragenshin9848 11 күн бұрын
Same man . I don't love the character but i do pity him
@ManInBlack1988
@ManInBlack1988 15 күн бұрын
I knew it was coming, but this ep killed me 😭 The look Meley’s and Rheany’s gave each other at the end… bro, bawled. She went out like a true bad ass tho. RIP the queen who never was, but should’ve been. 👑🐲🖤
@thebookgeek87
@thebookgeek87 15 күн бұрын
right we need Daemon!
@2bs2bs1porsche
@2bs2bs1porsche 14 күн бұрын
It’s giving bastard is CRAZY
@OliviaSilvaCompositora
@OliviaSilvaCompositora 14 күн бұрын
The guy that saved Corlys from the water is Corlys' bastard child. And Aegon is not dead, but severely injured. He won't be able to walk again and has 3rd degree burns
@crystalpritchard5065
@crystalpritchard5065 15 күн бұрын
I didn’t think I’d ever hate a character in this universe more than Joffrey or Ramsey Bolton but somehow Criston Cole has done it. I can’t wait until they kill him off, haven’t read the book so don’t know when it’ll happen, but I assume he doesn’t make it to the end.
@starsalignedits
@starsalignedits 15 күн бұрын
fabien is an incredible actor for everyone to hate criston so much when he's such a cinnamon roll irl 😭💗
@jasmineg_63
@jasmineg_63 15 күн бұрын
25:13 Rhaenys a true dragonrider.
@idkimjustafan
@idkimjustafan 12 күн бұрын
team black will always be superior. more women. more poc. more love. we’re just better.
@gee2541
@gee2541 12 күн бұрын
they’re boring af ngl. the greens may be dysfunctional but the tragic dynamics are incredible.
@kat309
@kat309 15 күн бұрын
I'm definitely eyeing Rob for wanting Sunfyre to die! That was so sad when he was crying out 😭 I will say I understand the Black Councils frustration. Rhaenyra's dragging her feet. If she didn't want to go to war then why call the council in the first place? They're not considered traitors
@aquele4virou3
@aquele4virou3 14 күн бұрын
I felt sad for Sunfyre but then I remember things from the book and suddenly I'm fine. And yes, Rhaenyra has been horribly written so I understand the council and especially Jace. His little brother got killed. The same little brother that only took Aemond's eye to save him. Jace has got to be feeling guilty because he was the one who suggested they go as messengers. And Rhaenyra is doing nothing. Unfortunately, this is show-writters bs because Rhaenyra never wavered and never considered peace. I hate they cut her "Tell my half-brother I will have my throne or I will have his head" line from the show. But they had to keep this idiotic former friendship and misunderstanding plot. In truth, Alicent wasn't even with Viserys when he died. The last people to see him alive were Helaena and her kids. Rhaenys was the first one wanting to use the dragons in the war while Daemon was hesitant. And, once Luke was killed, peace was never an option.
@MacJamesG
@MacJamesG 13 күн бұрын
You’re so right!!! Daemon should of been there 😭😭😭 wtf
@emelymarie4171
@emelymarie4171 15 күн бұрын
I think that what really makes me like emotional in this whole thing is how vhagar was Laenas dragon, they had the most special bond, and her dragon killed her mother. The dragons fighting the dragons feels so wrong because of how they’re all related to each other and just the fact that they’re not supposed to be enemies. The greens have basically destroyed the Targaryen beliefs by pitting them against each other. Also the preview of the next episode, team green deciding to parade meleys head in front of all of kings landing? Viserys is rolling over in his grave!!!!! Something else I wonder is if alicent is going to find out what aemond did to aegon, or if she’s just going to think it was rhaenyra again too
@PJuls
@PJuls 13 күн бұрын
Rhaenys must had been The Queen to begin with 😢
@gbasar1032
@gbasar1032 13 күн бұрын
Where is Chuck?
@gaborkiss650
@gaborkiss650 10 күн бұрын
I know why people want to hate Alicent but she has been correct last two episodes saying it’s too late to stop the war and doesn’t matter anymore what Viserys wanted.
@MatchaJazmin
@MatchaJazmin 14 күн бұрын
Poor sunfyre :(
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