When I retire from the Turkish Air Force, I can start my internship with you. 😃🇹🇷 I admire the work you do !
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes! Thank you for your kind words 😊
@senceralp3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek 😃You are very kind, my friend. When you make SOLOTÜRK, the whole fleet will be grateful. 🇹🇷
@charlesrestivo8703 жыл бұрын
Just wanted u to know you are the best review and info for rc airplanes Simply no BS no yelling no useless infromation No cars no trucks No useless banter I've unsubscribed from them all .They all seem to think that they are A major Hollywood director ( there not ) Keep it up the adults enjoy your channel
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind feedback!
@davidpoling77483 жыл бұрын
I love these refinish series! Recently bought an airbrush and have been getting into refinishing and scratchbuilding myself! Just finished on a fms p39 I crashed a few years ago. Got it looking better than ever using a lot of your techniques. Thanks for the vids!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I’m so glad it’s been helpful! I’d love to see the end result. 😊
@88Steelblue3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for demonstrating in detail the filling, Polycrylic, then aerosol primer sequence. That will really help me with my new project 😀 Greeting from Old England.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
So glad it’s helpful!
@davidsnyder2383 жыл бұрын
So much good information, i could watch you build all day. Nice to see some familiarity in the underside, hiding the receiver and wires 😉 Great stuff so far my friend!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! So glad it’s helpful. 😊
@toysforboysrc2 жыл бұрын
Although I’m new to rc planes, I’ve been an auto body technician for 25 years so I enjoy this part as much as flying. FYI if and when experimenting with paint and body materials, anyones best bet is a local bodyshop supply store in your area. Especially for canned primer. Good ones are is U-Pol, Transtar and medallion for canned primers. It’s also difficult to find the right materials for rc air craft repair materials because there’s not a big market for it. A good way to find useful materials is to search them with the key word Auto Upholstery. That is a huge market and the materials are designed to work with plastics, different foams, rubber, vinyl, glass, wood exc. what ever you can’t find in the auto interior category, you will find it at Michael’s. You’ve been restoring airplanes for quite some time with all your experience, I want to thank you for showing us what you’ve learned restoring rc planes. It’s motivating and encouraging. Question: does the amount of material that goes into a plane on a resto enough to show when flying? Or is it minuscule?
@toysforboysrc2 жыл бұрын
Why 180 on canned primer? Primer is much softer than bondo (body filler). Primer calls for 400-600 grit. Sanding in between coats of primer is easily done with 400 grit. If your using 180 grit for primer because the primer is clogging your sand paper, it’s because the quality of the primer is poor. I noticed you’ve been experimenting with different canned primers., I mentioned 3 brands in my comment, are you familiar with any of them?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I’m not familiar with those primers, I’ll check them out. My favorite primer was the ever coat stuff, but it’s not made anymore. Anyhow, I’m using 180 to knock down the primer quicker. The primer is being used to fill in the micro voids that come from the foam texture to fill that all in. The final primer coat is sanded with 600 grit in preparation for paint. In terms of the weight gain, it varies on the size of the airplane and the amount of material used. This tomcat is the first refinish I’ve done where I did notice the weight gain in flight. Mostly it was in the approach speed being notably faster than prior to the refinish. Unfortunately though, I didn’t weigh the airplane before the refinish, so I don’t know exactly what it was here. Generally speaking, I’ve found that foam airframes tend to fly better after a process like this. The smoother surface and stiffer airframe really help with that.
@toysforboysrc2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek ….. thanks so much for the reply. All this information is valuable especially for myself who’s totally new to flying. Here are autobody grade high build primers.. They “seem” pricy BUT, they are much bigger cans, have more surface build, dry faster & harder, won’t clog your sand paper and most importantly, these primers are “less harsh” on substrates and other repair materials. The solvents in these primers are “less volatile”. You’ll experience less to no reactions like lifting, flaking, sand scratch swelling or any defects that may present in the final paint finish when it comes to multiple layers with different types materials. HERE’S SOME GOOD ONES IVE USED 👇👇 👉 U-Pol Products 0791V Grey HIGH#5 Primer -12 oz a.co/d/c7wIHzv 👉 SEM 42013 Grey High Build Primer - 16 oz. a.co/d/1LUtH2G 👉Transtar 4603 Gray 2-in-1 Primer - 15oz a.co/d/4Yjn72l Stay away from commercialized products! The reason autobody grade materials is sooooo much better than publicly commercialized products is bcs the demand for high quality paint finishes and the performance of the products that accomplish that are in such high demand and there’s tons of competition with dozens of competing body shops and product manufacturers. Excuse my long comments lol but we all know what it’s like talking about what you love, you could talk about your pain all day too I would imagine 😁. Happy to of found your channel! I Do love watching you repair these air planes, it’s so gratifying….. please let me know or do a video trying out any one of these primers. I promises it will change the way you look at primers.
@kelser4143 жыл бұрын
Wow...gorgeous! Nice work, thanks for the video. And the fact that there's a Millennium Falcon sitting off to the side is just icing on the cake. Love it! :)
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! My kids and I are big Star Wars fans. 😁
@alexgonzales18559 ай бұрын
I just got this plane and the goal is to do a refinish. Lots to learn. Thx Rc Geek..
@Thercgeek9 ай бұрын
I’m here to help if you have questions! Also, for what it’s worth I have a free scale painting guide available that should help: www.thercgeek.com/trcgscaleguide
@captainmax573 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I’ve watched these videos multiple times, I’m redoing my F 14 tomcat in the VF 82 ghost squadron. The spackling tip, and the prime sand prime process is going to fix a lot of imperfections in my model. I bought this thing used for 450 bucks, had a receiver, and the afterburner kit. It was worth about $1000 and I bought it for 450 because of the condition it was in. The underside had some asphalt belly landing history and a lot of holes and dents and scratches. Thank god for spackle! It’s going to look great because of you! I appreciate the effort you put in to your videos
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@captainmax573 Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek any time! I have an important question about it though. The panel lines seem that they might not be filled completely, as in they recess enough for you to feel a texture in it, like less than a millimeter. This is before paint and primer and polycrilic. Once I do all of the refinishing, will they fill in and be smooth? Let me know soon! I am putting on the minwax in a few days.
@aerospacematt91473 жыл бұрын
Just came from watching Top Gun! Man, I love that F-14!
@jprules25783 жыл бұрын
If I can get my flyer friend to pull the trigger on a F-14 purchase....I'll get to use this info to refinish it.🤩
@VegasJD3 жыл бұрын
The automotive filler primer is great! I've not tried the Dupli-Color, but have used the Hot Rod Shop brand and it turns out great.
@howardwilliams25873 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful, great work and thanks for sharing ...
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@flyboy57363 жыл бұрын
Love these workshop videos! Sooo much talent.
@alext.1973 жыл бұрын
All the way from Oakland california! My son and I are very eager to see the next stage! Once these tomcats are available again on motionRC 🥺 ⌚⏳ My son plans to refer to your series of F-14 refinishing content to do his! 💪🏾👍🏾 Keep the content coming your Amazing!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m so glad it will be helpful. 😊
@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO3 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! I Didnt Realize you were SOOOOOOOO FAST DUDE!!! 😝😝😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
That’s how I do! 🤣
@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!! "SPEEDY GEEKOLEZ"!!! 😂😂😂
@stephenthomas23113 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this vid. Looking forward to seeing more mods on this airframe.
@hammertime9643 жыл бұрын
Wow Chris, lotsa work. A true labor of love. Nice job🍻
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, haha! But the work is always worth it in the end. 😊
@mjg223 жыл бұрын
Great… I’m loocking forward modify a foam plane using this process. 👍🏻
@verdw65873 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Another great job Chris
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jonoedwards41953 жыл бұрын
RC FREAK Already! Great Show, talk about taking Us there Dude. Unreal Stuff, now Your gonna sweat like Desert Storm on its Maiden. Beauty Geek. Itsda Sheeeeeee We love.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks man! No doubt, it’s HOT right now. Good thing I maidened it already a while back. 🤣 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJ51hdCQl7bTnoE.html
@mikenowland27393 жыл бұрын
Great job Mr Geek 👍 Very informative .
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davidgilbert80513 жыл бұрын
VF84 JOLLY ROGER HERE. I am scale building this bird. I knew Dale!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! He’s legit my hero, haha
@johnatkinson67593 жыл бұрын
Great Video.. Lots of tips and tricks... Looking forward to the cockpit details.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Cockpit is the next installment which is just about ready.
@FEboats Жыл бұрын
Use SEM high build primer. It’s the best stuff from a spray can.
@michaelbrinkley93233 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful
@rccowboys2 жыл бұрын
Man, you are my hero. lol. That was so much work and done so meticulously. Great job brotha! Beautiful plane! ;)
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks so much for the kind words!
@danb72073 жыл бұрын
Some people watch Saturday/Sunday cartoons. I watch The RC GEEK😂
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! 🤣😁
@-cmafia-77453 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and great work you're doing.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@boldlionpro28142 жыл бұрын
Nice work, body work is tedious if you want those good results and it looks good. Thanks for the video. Take care with the spray and inhalation. Peace.
@s9523pink3 жыл бұрын
Wow, can’t wait to see the next posts!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheAmishSasquatch2 жыл бұрын
Great work!! I've been planning a hyper detail of my Freewing A-6, for the last few years. Maybe I'll get around to it. It'll be my first RC aircraft.
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The A-6 is a nice one too, though I wish it was a little bigger. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/epuIgKyix7vagps.html
@lextek5953 жыл бұрын
Always impressed and inspired!
@spiroskatsikas Жыл бұрын
Great video Great content ❤
@bart570003 жыл бұрын
Amazing, great job!! Can’t wait to see the next posts
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@boss22343 жыл бұрын
Grate job good info as always.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jaykuster48313 жыл бұрын
Awesome and informative as always. 😀
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tonyspears64373 жыл бұрын
I've been asking about painting foam, thanks for the vid,,
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 😊
@dutchloveRC3 жыл бұрын
all I can say is WOW
@terry-aprillitts87183 жыл бұрын
Looks great 👍
@stevestonrcguy53932 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@stevestonrcguy53932 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it in the video but what kind of sandpaper do you use on the foam before priming? Thx
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I’m using 180grit to sand the filler down and also for sanding the primer. You want to be careful not to bust through the foam top layer as it will start to whisker if it does.
@LastBastionLabs3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Keep up the great work.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PatBALEX3 жыл бұрын
Great job Chris.. Filling in those panel lines really do make it look smoother.. I picked up a few things from you here.. Thanks.. By the way on youtube some guy did put rotating main gear on his FW F-14.. No flying videos yet.. Be a while before I get My FW F-14.. But the wheels in my head are turning... Thank you..
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a few folks mod that. I personally just didn’t want to spend the time to re-engineer that whole area. I have a 3d printed wing glove pylon that I plan to install to help hide the tires ultimately.
@enzok64143 жыл бұрын
I found the Benchcraft hollow rubber wheel to be an easy fit with stock rims. Just need to add some material to the rim to get a tight fit. Robart 3” rubber wheels socket are too big for stock rims.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Good to know! I’m using a 2.75” diameter robart tire which looks and fits about perfectly.
@williamwallace94272 жыл бұрын
RIP Dale Snodgrass
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
😢 He was (and still is) an aviation legend!
@kylewashington5567 Жыл бұрын
I want my f 14 done by you.
@f1matt3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job on the finish and many mods
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rubencarin8 ай бұрын
I notice that when you are spraying the primer paint that you are spraying close to the surface, I heard that it'll eat the foam, has to be 12 inches away??? Whats the secret? Is it because of the 4 layers of polycrylic wax? By the way, you always do an awesome incredible work!!!!! My hat's off to you, Brian!!!
@Thercgeek8 ай бұрын
All of these foam airframes these days are made of epo foam which is extremely resilient to solvents, so melting isn’t an issue with it like it’s with eps (beer cooler) foam. I’ve sprayed any number of paints and primers on epo including lacquers without any problems. The only thing you might run into is some swelling of the foam beads if the paint or primer is applied to wet.
@rickbaker60003 жыл бұрын
Chris have you ever tried to use lightweight fiberglass to cover a foam plane to protect it from dings. Maybe using epoxy instead of fiberglass resin that would melt the foam.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
You could do fiberglass, but the polycrylic is just quicker and less hassle.
@tonykeaton5521 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but I had a question-the F14 comes with out runner motors…what happens if you had 2 spare 1920KV inrunner motors😮? Would it be too much? Still learning here and I enjoy your knowledge-thank you RC🤘🏽
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Well, I’m not sure they’d be a good match for the stock 12blade fans. However, that’s the standard motor for the 9blade fans now, so I’d recommend grabbing a couple of those fans and using them.
@tonykeaton5521 Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Hey RC, thank you for the reply and info. Much appreciated🤘🏽
@darrenpearce5798 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Really enjoy all you videos and content. Do you have any simple tips for removing decals from foam aircraft? How did you do it on the F14?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
On this one, I just left them on there and applied the refinish over them. I’ve tried lifting them up with tape with mixed success. I have heard soaking them in vinegar would do it, but I haven’t tried it.
@darrenpearce5798 Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks Chris.
@IJustGotHere3 жыл бұрын
Looks 👍👌🙂👊
@DadsRCHangar3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Chris, look forward to the next one. I was surprised you didn’t take of the decals, I thought you normally do that. Looks great. So how many hours to this stage you think you did?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
I’ve found the paint jobs now adhere quite well, so I’ve just been doing the prep work over that. In terms of hours, I’m not really sure. It takes a bit of time to get a smooth finish.
Super! Can't wait to see more...Have you tried mod-podge as opposed to polycrylic? I have used it on a couple (less intensive) bashes, and it is nice stuff to prep the surface. Cheers from OH!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve heard of mod-podge but I’ve not tried it.
@MayMay-fe2ki2 жыл бұрын
Very good and patient modification. May I know those white material pasted on foamed plane ?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it in the vid. It’s the shrink free spackle from Sherwinn Williams. 😊
@mithrandir13133 жыл бұрын
filling those HUGE cordwise Trenches... are you able to feel a performance improvement?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
The models tend to fly slicker I’ve found and generally better. It’s partly due to the smoothness of the airframe and also the added rigidity you get from the polycrylic.
@jaysonfarmer157 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, would you mind sharing where you get your color schemes and other details (panel lines, rivet locations, etc...) from to do your planes? BTW, bought one of your deflection meters. I am glad I did. Great product! Jayson
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jayson! When I do a scale project, I spend a lot of time researching online and in books for paint scheme ideas. once I find a paint scheme that I like, I drill down further trying to find whatever information I can on that particular airplane including plastic models and plastic model decals. For panel lines, I search for drawings in a similar way. For the tomcat though, Davao Products has a fantastic book with drawings in it that I used as a panel line reference.
@cgross71 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, just amazing work, very nice. I plan to refinish an Arrows F-86 and will do it like you show here. One question: It seems that you did not strip any vinyl decals from that model, is that correct? Or were that all waterslide decals? Thank you!
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The decals were all water slides, so it was easier to just leave them on the surface.
@spinnetti3 жыл бұрын
Foam bashing is fun! Where's the air exits from your new NACA ducts?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
The air is drawn into the inlets by the fans. There’s a slot in the foam behind the ESCs just forward of the fan face.
@captainmax573 Жыл бұрын
My panel Lines might not be filled completely, as in they recess enough for you to feel a texture in it, like less than a millimeter. This is before paint and primer and polycrilic. Once I do all of the refinishing, will they fill in and be smooth? Let me know soon! I am putting on the minwax in a few days.
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
That’s not uncommon. The issue is the softness of the foam and it lightly compressing while sanding. A lot of that gets smoothed out in the primer/sand process. However, you can always do another pass on the filler. Larger imperfections you definitely want to fill before poly and primer.
@captainmax573 Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks man! I appreciate it!
@user-id9wh3uy4nАй бұрын
Can this spackle be used to fill in cracks in my fuselage maybe 1/2 inch deep.
@ThercgeekАй бұрын
Yep, it’ll fill that assuming we’re not talking about a large 1/2” deep surface area needing filling. Just allow some extra time to dry fully before sanding.
@LeoH3L12 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to remove a bit more of the foam and modify the main landing gear to fully disappear in side the fuselage, and maybe add a door?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s possible, yes. You’d need rotating main gear and then would have to fabricate the doors like the full scale.
@NeedSpeedRC2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid. Question about paint removal. I recently bought an used EFlight F-16 80mm. It’s was repainted to white and then coated in minwax/poly. I want to repaint. Should I use acetone and light weight sandpaper to strip so I can prep for repaint? Thanks.
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
You should be able to just paint right over that. If you’re concerned about the weight, then acetone should do the trick in stripping the paint off the airframe.
@edgelineaerialsolutionsllc7615 Жыл бұрын
What primer do you prefer the most ?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Duplicolor filler primer is my preference these days which is what I used on this model: amzn.to/3Vv9ST2
@Bryan-qx2iy3 жыл бұрын
For fixing filling up ding-up rc foam plane (such as scratches), do you recommend using the Sherwin William sprackling as used in your video or would you recommend the foam tac foam finish filler. Thanks.
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
I use the sherwinn Williams spackle for that. I’m not familiar with the foam Tac filler, so can’t compare. I’d imagine it would be similar.
@steelyerface212 жыл бұрын
do you use the semi gloss, satin, or full gloss for the sealing coat of the polycrylic before primer
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I usually use satin.
@MCsRC7773 жыл бұрын
What got me watching your channel was you working on the sky ray, nothing on that for years, some of us, I think , would like to see the what I consider the real modeler side from you again, filling foam panel lines is getting old. Not hating , foam is gettin old, just saying, Still a great channel!
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
I understand. this F-14 is kind of the last big foam refinish as I want to get back to some of those build projects I’ve had waiting for so long. The challenge I’ve had has been finding a balance between my own projects and the reviews, etc. doesn’t help that my main field with the big paved runway was closed permanently. 😢 now flying larger models requires a much long drive to accomplish.
@flashted4 ай бұрын
I've been looking for a way to refinish foam. I have a very small 50 mm jet that has waterslide decals all over it that just continually peel off. What kind of Automotive primer did you use that does not attack the foam? I used to cover Balsa with Minwax polyurethane and quarter ounce glass cloth, and then primer it paint it That's a little too heavy for this I thought about using Modge podge, but I don't like the streaks and I think it's a little heavier.
@Thercgeek4 ай бұрын
Which 50mm edf is it? You’ll need to determine if it’s made of epo or eps foam. Epo will allow you to spray it with pretty much any type of primer and paint, however if it’s eps foam, you’ll need to be much more careful. Epo foam is extremely resilient to solvents but eps foam is not.
@tomoyagerharz47562 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, I wanted to know what kind of filler and polycrylic you used? I couldn't really understand what you were saying. Really like what you are doing!
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m using sherwinn williams shrink free spackle for filler and minwax polycrylic (minwax is the brand).
@tomoyagerharz47562 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Thank you so much. Gonna go refinish a plane now!
@tomoyagerharz47562 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Hey Chris, I've started the refinish process on my f15. I was just wondering if the filler primer that you used will cover up any small imperfections that were not covered by the filler (Tiny dents and scratches) or if I should take the time and fill those in too? Also I couldn't find the minwax polycrylic so i'm gonna try and use Varathane polyurethane water based. Just wondering if this is a good brand, or if I should stick with the minwax one. Thanks!
@chrisr42742 ай бұрын
Do you sand the Minwax in-between coats?
@Thercgeek2 ай бұрын
I don’t usually.
@rohnnyvanderstraeten8639 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Geek, what kind of filler do you use? I damaged my E flight Viper 90 and now want to fill and repaint the glued pieces. Kindest regard from Belgium
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
I used sherwinn Williams shrink free spackle.
@PepperPete113 жыл бұрын
Are you not concerned with the additional weight you are adding to the aircraft? Like that amount of paint, filler, epoxy cover is going to add a LOT. Are you re-enforcing the swing wing mech like many have done? Such as installing the metal plate to prevent body flex?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Improvements could be made, but I’m not concerned. I’ve found that a refinish like this results in a generally better flying airplane. It’s a combination of the smooth surface, the stiffer airframe as well as a little higher wing loading. Though, the fw f14 doesn’t need additional weight, it is what it is to get a nice finish. The model has actually already flown in full paint and it flies great! 😁 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJ51hdCQl7bTnoE.html
@doctor5153 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, nice work, If I wanted to use Minwax Polycrylic only to toughen the skin on an EPO model. What gloss level would you recommend? I'd stay away from gloss on a military plane. There is clear matte, clear satin, clear semi-gloss and clear ultra flat ?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Id recommend a satin or flat. Gloss won’t look right on a military aircraft.
@alwaysflying6540 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to use the polycrylic matt finish on my F16. I just want to seal the paint and my stickers as well as paint on a bit of trim. Any advice for me?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
If you’re looking to just seal the stock finish then you may want to consider just using the spray polycrylic instead. That said, if all you want is a matte finish, there’s always the rustoleum 2x matte clear. It’s pretty good and non-yellowing too. Just a dusting will give you a nice matte sheen.
@alwaysflying6540 Жыл бұрын
@Thercgeek I didn't know polycrylic was available in a spray. I have my own spray equipment because I'm an Automotive Painter but was told that if I'm just sealing than I could brush it on in the house with good results. Then I came across these videos of your's. You are a pro with the polycrylic!
@anthonyjayakody3356 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, do you clear coat after primer as I see you did on the vertical stab section? I’m following your process to repaint my f14 but practicing on a 70mm F16 first. Thanks for your help-Ant
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
No, that's not necessary. What I did on the vertical tail areas was since I had used some spackle filler there, simply sealed up those areas with Polycrylic to receive the primer better.
@anthonyjayakody3356 Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek okay I see what you mean. Thanks Chris, that’s great.
@drmrjon Жыл бұрын
Does the refinish process help keep the foam from popcorning in the sun at all?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
No, there's no finish out there that will stop that. It's just the nature of EPO foam unfortunately and how it reacts to heat.
@drmrjon Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Have you ever tried applying anything like Zpoxy finish resin to a EPO foam surface, sanding and priming it?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
I’ve only used the zpoxy for fiberglassing. I haven’t tried it as a replacement for the poly. The poly is pretty quick and painless. The epoxy would be a little more involved process, but would probably work decently.
@steelyerface212 жыл бұрын
also another question about the fillers used, what type of lightweight spaclke do you use on the vertical stabs "lightweight spackle" and why do you choose to use it there and then use the 3m filler putty for some of the surface blemish stuff instead? Thanks, great build
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I used the same sherwinn Williams spackle I used on the rest of the airframe. The spackle was used there because the gaps being filled were wider than the 3m glaze putty would effectively fill and it was also easier to sand. The 3m stuff is only just a surface filler for small imperfections mostly and doesn’t have much body to it.
@steelyerface212 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek awesome, dap has a "flexible spackling" that says it can be sanded and painted? would that be something worth possibly using since the foam is in theory flexible and compressible?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
If that’s the stuff from Home Depot, it’s garbage. The sherwinn williams stuff is really good and sands nicely. I’ve tried others that include the stuff with primers in it and they ball up as you sand it. Not the case with sherwinn Williams.
@steelyerface212 жыл бұрын
Thanks again one last qiestion. I have a dynam 109 i want to repaint. Do you recommend just sanding the stock paint before sealing with the clear minwax or stripping off the old paint entirely? Seems like a major production to remove it all but if its likely to debond all the new paint if i dont then maybe i should. Acetone or just clear over the existing? Thoughts ? Thanks!!!
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend skipping stripping the paint. Just prep right over the paint.
@chuntitan62082 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy the sherwin Williams spackle from. I seem to be having a hard time locating it. Cant find it for sale online or any info on where to buy it in store. Thanks
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
It can be purchased at a Sherwinn-Williams paint store: www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/products/shrink-free-spackling
@gromitvt10 Жыл бұрын
What spackle knife is that? Thanks
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
It’s an artist palette knife. I use it for applying all sorts of fillers.
@davidgilbert80513 жыл бұрын
Are the 3D cockpit parts available?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Shoot me an email and I can make that happen. Thercgeek.com/contact
@managerlmw53822 жыл бұрын
Really does look like a fiberglass model. What was the foam type you used?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The model is made of epo foam which is very resilient to solvents.
@managerlmw53822 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Thanks, Chris! Once again, great tips.
@steveneisen67053 жыл бұрын
Are you making the cockpit files/parts available to purchase?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
I’m still working on that. The website integration I had setup for the files didn’t work and my sla printer is down at the moment. I’ll have at least the parts available by the time the next installment posts.
@tomoyagerharz47562 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, I've started the refinish process on my f15. I was just wondering if the filler primer that you used will cover up any small imperfections that were not covered by the filler (Tiny dents and scratches) or if I should take the time and fill those in too? Also I couldn't find the minwax polycrylic so i'm gonna try and use Varathane polyurethane water based. Just wondering if this is a good brand, or if I should stick with the minwax one. Thanks!
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
The larger dents and dings you’ll want to fill. The primer will only fill the smaller stuff. So, I’ve used glaze putty on that stuff but you can also just use the spackle and spot treat with poly and then primer over that. I haven’t used verathane personally, but I’ve heard good things about it if it’s the stuff I’m thinking of.
@blbills2 жыл бұрын
How much weight does this add?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
It really varies quite a bit on the airframe and the airframe size. It also relates to how many coats of primer that are used too. That said, in most cases I’ve found that the models actually fly better following a refinish like this due to the smoother surface and the stiffer airframe.
@anthonyjayakody33562 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! I’ve been watching your F14 vids over and over and learning a lot so thanks. I’m about to purchase a Futaba radio, what one would you recommend to allow me to achieve the swing wing spoiler set up you have? I’ll be going from a DX8 to Futaba. Thanks a lot-Ant
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! To achieve the spoileron and full span flap mod, it requires a minimum of 9 channels. I’m not very familiar with futaba, so can’t say specifically which one, but I’d recommend 10-12 channels to have options in the future. 😊
@anthonyjayakody33562 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek awesome, thanks Chris. I will have a good look to see what 10/12 channel I can get hold off. Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
@tomoyagerharz47562 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have finished filling my f15. Do I sand after a layer of polycrylic? Or do I just leave it as is? I am very confused.
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
If you haven’t already, you’ll need to sand the filler smooth. Once it’s filled and sanded to your liking, then apply the poly coats.
@tomoyagerharz47562 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Yes I have sanded the filler but I do not know if I am supposed to sand the poly coats down? I am thinking that I shouldn't.
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
I usually just do a light sanding of the final poly coat before primer. Not much more than that.
@AN-ce1nd Жыл бұрын
Should have glassed it
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
For epo, this is quicker and lighter. It it was balsa, glassing all the way.
@MMFF002 жыл бұрын
Can you use this same method on warbirds as well? Or do you prefer the method used in your P-51 refinishing video?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this pretty much is the same method. Only difference is that I didn’t strip the paint before starting the refinish.
@MMFF002 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek awesome, thanks! I plan on refinishing my FMS 80mm Super Hornet to a Blue Angels finish and my P-51 is yet to be decided lol.
@MMFF002 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek do you sand the polycrilic before the first coat of primer?
@Thercgeek2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a light sanding with 180 grit sand paper is good.
@MMFF002 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek awesome! Can’t wait to see how great that Tomcat looks when you’re finished!
@drone197306023 жыл бұрын
How long did this process take ?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I’m not sure. With the modifications made at the same time, it added time. It’s really a function of how smooth you want to make it.
@drone197306023 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek appreciate you taking time to respond
@Captndarty3 жыл бұрын
All this time and effort on a foamy why not put that onto a fiberglass Tomcat make it perfect and call it a day?
@Thercgeek3 жыл бұрын
All in due time as I have a DCU kit that I’ll be building at some point. This is a more instant gratification process and is a bit quicker than a full build. Also, it is a model I can fly here locally. Unfortunately my primary field with the big 600ft runway was closed permanently, so larger models require a much longer drive now to fly. 😕