Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke with Yoram Hazony | The Book Club

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Жыл бұрын

The American Revolution led to the birth of a new, free nation, while the French Revolution led to blood and terror. What was the difference and what can we learn from history before it’s rewritten or forgotten entirely? Political theorist and Bible scholar Yoram Hazony joins Michael Knowles for a discussion about Edmund Burke’s treatise “Reflections on the Revolution in France.”
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@johnlustig4322
@johnlustig4322 Жыл бұрын
My friends use to call me a burke. Now I am not so offended.......
@LynchMobster47
@LynchMobster47 10 ай бұрын
Love the quote about Marie Antoinette who was truly an amazing woman. She never said “Let them eat cake” that’s lib fake news. In fact her last words were to her executioner who she apologized to for accidentally stepping on his shoes. A lady until the very end. May God grant her eternal rest.
@Demiurge443
@Demiurge443 6 ай бұрын
Definitely not lib fake news. Just found to be NOT true.
@philipswain4122
@philipswain4122 Ай бұрын
I read that too. I can’t remember where though.
@endgamefond
@endgamefond Жыл бұрын
Hi, I love this book club. Could Michael knowles do classics more please like Dostoevsky and invite Jordan Peterson 😂, but all seriousness I love Michael n the guests talk about classic literature either they're fictions of philosophy books. Please do more of that. Thanks ♡♡♡
@phildynerphotography5049
@phildynerphotography5049 Жыл бұрын
As a Pole, I believe in God, Honour and Country!
@marchess7420
@marchess7420 Жыл бұрын
what are the thoughts of you two gents on polish and Irish birthrates?
@marchess7420
@marchess7420 Жыл бұрын
@Ben O Brien - sadly. God willing, there will be an Irish revival.
@matsa2620
@matsa2620 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic book to help understand Burke a bit more (at least for me) is "Edmund Burke and the Natural Law" by Peter J. Stanlis. It made a number of things sharp for me, that were previously somewhat vague, even after having read Burke himself and authors like Scruton.
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 Жыл бұрын
I have the Penguin Classics version. I am amazed at how long the letter was. Burkes insights and intuition on were the revolution was going was impressive.
@williamstdog9
@williamstdog9 Жыл бұрын
I’m ten yrs his senior but someday I hope to be half as well dressed as Michael Knowles
@philipswain4122
@philipswain4122 Ай бұрын
Great summary! I’m only now discovering Burke’s writings after many years wrestling with Locke, Smith and Hume.
@fbcpraise
@fbcpraise Жыл бұрын
Brits, where are you? Take a bow, we salute you!
@Faustobellissimo
@Faustobellissimo Жыл бұрын
This guy has nine kids? wow, that's a real conservative!
@username-password
@username-password Жыл бұрын
Great episode
@akang4009
@akang4009 Жыл бұрын
Great timeless stuff 👏👏
@Lulustucru2393
@Lulustucru2393 Жыл бұрын
As a French, I wish my country would've stayed a Monarchy...
@childeharold3550
@childeharold3550 Жыл бұрын
Liberty and Freedom are unfortunately very different. French founders think of liberty as unbounded freedom. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Jonathan Edwards (ironically) knew real LIBERTY is freedom based on self regulation. 🙂
@TheNabOwnzz
@TheNabOwnzz Жыл бұрын
Didn't you hear what Hazony said about Jefferson? He himself co-wrote the draft for the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (the Ten Commandments of the French Revolution). Jefferson was just as bad as the French and their notions proceeded from him and Lafayette.
@brittybee6615
@brittybee6615 Жыл бұрын
And people get mad nowadays when you text a two or three paragraph “essay” as a reply; imagine asking a question and getting a book assignment back in the mail 😂
@redvixen8669
@redvixen8669 Жыл бұрын
illuminating
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr Жыл бұрын
*_Equality!_* The distinction is in the *_AIM!_* To what do you apply the principle of equality? It is certainly *_not_* to outcomes. And it is certainly not in our application of humility, for, while everyone deserves our humility to their needs, we are required to use wisdom in the application of that humility. For example, we can turn the other cheek to give to someone else who needs to strike us the generous opportunity to accomplish their emotional desire, but if that other requires of us to commit some crime, we will not participate, for we hold a higher humility to God on the things which belong to Him. The commandment to honor our father and mother come from this spiritual logic, even if a parent has fallen into sin and decadence. How we honor them is a matter of wisdom.
@dianac6153
@dianac6153 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! I read this book and it is a "must read" oeuvre. Do you guys have any book suggestions to give about the russian revolution? Everything I remember reading was pretty biased.
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 Жыл бұрын
I have it I just need to get around to reading it.
@dukegilmour2669
@dukegilmour2669 Жыл бұрын
Very good, thank you
@arthurwright8827
@arthurwright8827 Жыл бұрын
People have no natural right to a thing if others must be coerced to provide that thing. That’s another of Burkes ideas.
@xqp5503
@xqp5503 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@czechishczech
@czechishczech Жыл бұрын
May Paine's vision live on till the end of days
@TheNabOwnzz
@TheNabOwnzz Жыл бұрын
No.
@edmundburke9477
@edmundburke9477 Жыл бұрын
destroy half of the humanity and start from beginning, the myopic vision must always remain defeated.
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
Thomas Paine's vision ends in bankruptcy - the economics in the second part of his Rights of Man and his Agrarian Justice is total nonsense. Essentially the government funds XYZ for "the people" and the rich pay - but the numbers do not add up.
@peteratkinson922
@peteratkinson922 Жыл бұрын
Another old white male!
@paige476
@paige476 7 ай бұрын
28:30 ⭐️ feeling matter, but if untamed, can be gaurdrails
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 Жыл бұрын
Adam Smith also started with observation of reality
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr Жыл бұрын
Interesting analysis, *_but it misses what is perhaps a far greater force involved._* I know this is a book report, but Burke, as brilliant as he was, would likely have been humbled by the insights of Thomas Sowell in analyzing the difference between the American and French revolutions. His insights reveal something far more pervasive and basic described quite well in his book, *_A Conflict of Visions._* The more potent source of insanity is behind many of the tragedies of history. * Derailing of science by the Ancient Greeks. * Derailing of Christianity by church scholars in the 4th century, trying to be more like the arrogant Greeks. * Derailing of modern America by the "progressives." * Derailing of modern science by those in science who have lost touch with the attitudes which had made science great 4 centuries earlier. This more potent ingredient is the *_know-it-all attitude_* of the Intelligentsia, versus the *_humility_* of early Renaissance Christians to empirical evidence. America's Founding Fathers had the humility to know that man has a huge penchant for evil. So, it wasn't so much humility to tradition, for America's Founding Fathers were lucky their tradition wasn't that of Imperial Russia or China. Their brilliance was in realizing that man could not be trusted with power. And they looked to the British system because they knew that parts of it actually worked. REFERENCES: *_"Overview of America,"_* JBS video [the real Left-Right paradigm] *_"Myths vs. Facts,"_* JBS video series [how we got the Deep State and a crazy government] *_Intellectuals and Society,_* 2nd ed., by Thomas Sowell *_A Conflict of Visions,_* by Thomas Sowell *_Dumb Genius: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
A matter of principle (of basic policy) had already divided Burke and Fox before (before) the French Revolution - what was this matter Sir? Do you know? This is not a trick question, And, it should not be a difficult question Sir.
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
No answer after the eight days. The answer - free trade with Ireland. And nor was it a matter of Burke wanting Free Trade with Ireland (but NOT more taxes upon Ireland - which was the position of Pitt the Younger), because of his Irish origins - it was his general commitment to individual economic liberty, a commitment that was not shared by Fox, who thought of liberty as the rule of Parliament (i.e. defined liberty in terms of POWER - a fatal mistake, one also made by the French Revolution which Fox supported).
@kris8997
@kris8997 Ай бұрын
15:00
@mr.e2962
@mr.e2962 2 ай бұрын
Edmund Burke is a classical liberal according to F. A. Hayek. Look up his essay "why I am not a conservative."
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын
Welcome back to the show Laura's heart who says very proud to be Italian right now funny how nobody on the left will congratulate Georgia Maloni for being the first woman prime minister in Italy.
@Pet.Wifey.Voice.Of.Reason
@Pet.Wifey.Voice.Of.Reason Жыл бұрын
No one should be congratulated for being a woman. Hahahaha!
@Isabella66Gracen
@Isabella66Gracen Жыл бұрын
@@Pet.Wifey.Voice.Of.Reason Biological women should be congratulation for being real.
@Pet.Wifey.Voice.Of.Reason
@Pet.Wifey.Voice.Of.Reason Жыл бұрын
@@Isabella66Gracen Hahaha! So true...
@peteratkinson922
@peteratkinson922 Жыл бұрын
The same with Margaret Thatcher.
@peteratkinson922
@peteratkinson922 Жыл бұрын
@@Pet.Wifey.Voice.Of.Reason Geordie?
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
The person trying to "confuse" is yourself Sir. Edmund Burke wrote many works (not one) and it is quite clear from his work, taken as a whole, that he stood for individual liberty and universal moral principles (by the way all Christians stand for universal moral principles) - he rejected that the idea that only people with "your lilies and roses in their faces" had rights under natural law - and he was always careful to make clear that he meant the life and property of individual human persons and voluntary associations (including churches), not some right of "the people" to rule. He was most certainly an "Old Whig" - what we now call a Classical Liberal. Burke was just as opposed to despotism from a King as he was the despotism of the mob - it was the rights of individual persons and the voluntary associations of Civil Society (such as the family) that he stood for.
@digitalnomad9985
@digitalnomad9985 Жыл бұрын
Who do you think you're arguing with? Did you watch the video I just watched? You appear to be arguing against authoritarians, and there are no authoritarians in the room.
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
@@digitalnomad9985 I may indeed have been too harsh. However, the point remains that Edmund Burke was (not was not) a Classical Liberal - an Old Whig. However, the French Revolution was not about Classical Liberalism - it made the fatal mistake of confusing liberty and power. Further conversation with the author showed that we were actually in agreement on the substance - and were just in disagreement over presentation. In short, I "jumped the gun" - for which I am sorry. The red mist rose up in my mind - and I did not give the author a fair chance.
@2msvalkyrie529
@2msvalkyrie529 Жыл бұрын
@ Paul Marks The " Reign of Terror " in France lasted for centuries and was perpetuated by the King , the Aristocracy and the Church ! I'd be interested to know which " Rights " you think the French peasants had before the Revolution ? !
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
Few men of his time did more for individual liberty than the "Old Whig" Edmund Burke - whether in relation to India, Ireland, England., America - or France. He opposed the French Revolution because he (rightly) believed it was a threat to individual liberty. The lives and property of individual human beings - in the name of the power of "the people". He was a Classical Liberal - which you deny.
@TheNabOwnzz
@TheNabOwnzz Жыл бұрын
Burke was a constitutional monarchist, not a classical liberal. If he were, he would not already have denounced the revolution long before the terror began. Any seemingly "classical liberal" stances he endorses, he endorses by a foundation of years of tradition. But he was decidedly not a classical liberal.
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
@@TheNabOwnzz Mr Burke was not obsessed with forms of government - for example he supported the independence of America and did not demand that Mr Washington become a King. If you read the Reflections (well reread it - as I am sure you have read it) you will find that Mr Burke denounced fiat money (introduced by the Revolution) and denounced murders and robbery - your assumption is that this started with "The Terror", it really started in 1789 (both robbery and murder). Mr Burke most certainly was an Old Whig - which we now call a Classical Liberal. But we could go back to just saying "Old Whig" and thus avoid "the l word" (liberal) entirely. After all the Radical Liberals of the 19th century hated the Old Whigs of the 17th and 18th centuries. Indeed, Jeremy Bentham and James and J.S. Mill preferred David Hume to Thomas Reid - the break with the Old Whigs (in both politics and philosophy) was total.
@Adamentin
@Adamentin Жыл бұрын
🤔
@fralo70
@fralo70 Жыл бұрын
At what point in the book does he actually begin discussing....you know...the French Revolution? I just started it, and so far, he is only speaking on England and defended their manner of selecting kings. I want to skip all of that, and get to where he speaks of his views on the the revolution.
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr Жыл бұрын
*_Liberty in servitude!_* What bliss! But it has to be properly aimed. He's talking, in my estimation, about humility -- like the humility of Christ to God -- proclaiming himself to be a servant and not "good," but maintaining that the only one who is "good" is God Almighty and *_not_* himself. The businessman who adds value to the lives of their customers and clients remains in blissful servitude, wrapped in the self-discipline of fearless confidence combined with utter humility. When you get these done right, you might even find yourself standing at the *_Narrow Gate_* mentioned by Christ -- the opening which leads back to the base of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil found in the Garden of Heaven. A good president is a servant. So too is a good king. Christ repeatedly told his followers that he was here not to do his own will, but the will of He who had sent him. And we know Christ was *_not_* God, because, early in his ministry, he told Nicodemus that before he had come down from Heaven to become Yeshua of Nazareth, he had been the first to have gone up to Heaven. In other words, he had been a sinner like you and I and had conquered sin, becoming God's *_First Graduate!_*
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 6 ай бұрын
We are all either servants of the good, or slaves of evil. There are no other options for human beings, it’s our nature. We are going to serve something, one way or another. If we don’t choose God, as Jesus Christ taught us how to do, then we will be slaves to our own passions, sin, ignorance, lower nature, and the tyranny of others.
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr 6 ай бұрын
@@Seliz463 Amen! 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
@wownice1029
@wownice1029 Жыл бұрын
"A cultivated Conservative friend of mine once exhibited great distress because in a gay moment I once called Edmund Burke an atheist. ... I mean that in the quarrel over the French Revolution, Burke did stand for the atheistic attitude and mode of argument, as Robespierre stood for the theistic." GK Chesterton
@TheNabOwnzz
@TheNabOwnzz Жыл бұрын
You missed "Burke was certainly not an atheist in his conscious cosmic theory."
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Жыл бұрын
Mr Burke was not an atheist. But then Mr Chesterton delighted in forms of words that do not exactly mean what one might think they mean.
@wownice1029
@wownice1029 Жыл бұрын
@@paulvmarks He was an Anglican -- which is just as bad as an Atheist. So your point is irrelevant. Chesterton's point is valid -- the Burkean tradition is bankrupt, elitist, and evolutionistic instead of being focused on Divine Justice.
@wownice1029
@wownice1029 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNabOwnzz I didn't miss it fwiw -- I assumed everyone knew that Burke was a "Christian" (if one can call Anglicans such things.). But the main point remains: Burke's political philosophy is fundamentally atheistic.
@TheNabOwnzz
@TheNabOwnzz Жыл бұрын
@@wownice1029 Well, coming from Chesterton (a Catholic, which is even worse than an atheist), this means very little. It is true that he reasoned according like a statesman and not a theologian, but at the foundation of his reasonings faith was quite essential.
@zainsmith1605
@zainsmith1605 Жыл бұрын
"We're in a bad place" - okay so leave then, you won't be missed. The world is leaving your behind.
@LatinxMatt
@LatinxMatt Жыл бұрын
you should read some Henry Ford next kek
@marchess7420
@marchess7420 Жыл бұрын
what, specifically, do you find of value there?
@WillMarino-wl3zy
@WillMarino-wl3zy Жыл бұрын
lmao the 'feelings do matter' line really did it for me, i get it now - all conservative media is satire. thanks so much for this insight
@merlinwizard1000
@merlinwizard1000 Жыл бұрын
3rd, 27 September 2022
@pemberton6974
@pemberton6974 Жыл бұрын
PregerU is really a Preger you tube. This is not a University it's a KZfaq channel 🙄
@digitalnomad9985
@digitalnomad9985 Жыл бұрын
Leftists are immune to irony.
@tomspaghetti
@tomspaghetti 2 ай бұрын
Edmond Burke was a Simp for Antoinette. The real Chad was Thomas Paine!
@tristanbruns5968
@tristanbruns5968 9 ай бұрын
LOL! Burke advocated for change in this text, slow change, but change nonetheless. (Re: The crowing of Will and Mary of Orange, joint rulers, not even English, Dutch people!) Notice how these two skirt around that very important part, that change is good as long as it’s slow (and not just based on what other countries did a hundred years ago). That’s why Knowles is so confused throughout this, because he is stuck defining things in one axiomatic way, when they always change anachronistically. MAGA is about regression; Burke was about slow progression. Not the same, and Knowles keeps trying to put his square peg in this round hole while failing to comprehend Burke. Awful video.
@Demiurge443
@Demiurge443 6 ай бұрын
“Everyone in the world knows England’s traditions are better” This line of thinking is awful.
@jsp3366
@jsp3366 2 ай бұрын
Do you understand the concept of context?
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