'Reflections' with MonteCristo (2nd appearance)

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Christopher "MonteCristo" Mykles, former LoL colour commentator and analyst and currently performing those roles in OverWatch, is the star of the 102nd Episode of 'Reflections. This interview was recorded on the 13th of May.
Time-line of topics discussed:
00:00 Intro
01:25 MonteCristo the character
15:14 Moby Dick
22:47 Parzival
34:47 Where his education might have gone
38:02 Finding time for himself
44:35 Persona
56:43 Ritual effects
1:01:19 Phreak
1:07:33 ggChronicle and journalism
1:12:55 Denver Broncos and parallels with shot-calling
1:23:19 Styles
1:29:25 Top Koreans going to the West
1:31:18 Coaching CLG
1:38:12 Doublelift
1:43:05 Link
1:47:55 Zorozero to CLG
1:55:52 Did CLG hang him out to dry?
1:57:22 Locodoco
2:01:45 TSM and their influence
2:07:11 Summoning Insight
2:16:53 Monte's stance on Riot changing
2:20:20 Riot trying to push Monte out
2:22:53 Renegades being banned
2:27:17 LCK replacing OGN Champions
2:29:25 LCK being split between OGN and SpoTV
2:33:35 Negotiating with Blizzard
2:38:50 People in LoL not acknowleding his departure
2:45:15 Time LoL has left
2:46:36 Summoning Insight dying
2:55:18 Will we work together on events?
2:57:50 Switching to OW
3:01:10 OWL
3:03:55 MadLife of OW
3:07:44 Diamondprox of OW
3:09:23 Froggen of OW
3:10:38 Flame of OW
3:12:21 Final words
Referenced:
The Thorin Treatment: Celebrating the Full Monte
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@BoboVHM 7 жыл бұрын

00:00 Intro 01:25 MonteCristo the character 15:14 Moby Dick 22:47 Parzival 34:47 Where his education might have gone 38:02 Finding time for himself 44:35 Persona 56:43 Ritual effects 1:01:19 Phreak 1:07:33 ggChronicle and journalism 1:12:55 Denver Broncos and parallels with shot-calling 1:23:19 Styles 1:29:25 Top Koreans going to the West 1:31:18 Coaching CLG 1:38:12 Doublelift 1:43:05 Link 1:47:55 Zorozero to CLG 1:55:52 Did CLG hang him out to dry? 1:57:22 Locodoco 2:01:45 TSM and their influence 2:07:11 Summoning Insight 2:16:53 Monte's stance on Riot changing 2:20:20 Riot trying to push Monte out 2:22:53 Renegades being banned 2:27:17 LCK replacing OGN Champions 2:29:25 LCK being split between OGN and SpoTV 2:33:35 Negotiating with Blizzard 2:38:50 People in LoL not acknowleding his departure 2:45:15 Time LoL has left 2:46:36 Summoning Insight dying 2:55:18 Will we work together on events? 2:57:50 Switching to OW 3:01:10 OWL 3:03:55 MadLife of OW 3:07:44 Diamondprox of OW 3:09:23 Froggen of OW 3:10:38 Flame of OW 3:12:21 Final words

@Rivalityh 7 жыл бұрын

These two are my favourite esports profiles! By far.

@Destromath2 7 жыл бұрын

Definitely the most interesting guys out there and not onlyfor their esports content either, but for persona in general. Especially for me, a condescending son of a bitch who thinks everyone is shit i respect these two so much i dont even know why i do, but i just do :D

@Demonarrows1 7 жыл бұрын

If you dont like him why watch his content?

@ngs_racing 7 жыл бұрын

I like monte, and who said i watched it?

@Demonarrows1 7 жыл бұрын

thats just too stupid...

@ngs_racing 7 жыл бұрын

No that selfish prick, offended my nation, he did't even bother to say sorry. So from time to time i comment below post or vids with him how big piece of s*** "it" is.

@psyclops973 7 жыл бұрын

"I couldn't live with myself. I would rather have lost that contract with Blizzard as a result of my actions (...) than have to realize that I was letting all of this garbage slide (while working with Riot)" What a fucking MAN!

@rayaqin 7 жыл бұрын

he is an intelligent guy in the truest sense of the word Inspiring

@TheLalanda12 7 жыл бұрын

Man, i can only wish you do a series where you talk about shit with Monte for 3 hours every month or so.

@SlipperySoup-pg4in 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys, enjoyed every minute of it. I wish more people than just some 25k gaming fans would get to see these.

@umiluv 7 жыл бұрын

Have to note that - yes - my husband and I are in our mid to late 30s and loved Summoning Insight. We're also that key demographic everyone wants access to that gets zero advertising because we stopped watching cable television and have KZfaq Red. I think I basically watch maybe 1-2 ads a month. I have no idea why Riot always wants eSports to look like the NFL. Almost no one at the company watches football. Only the people in their 30s and older did and even then it wasn't talked about often, if at all. It's a lack of understanding of the eSports audience as well as just the millennial and younger generations that really detest over-produced nonsense. Though I do love OGN's production but in an ironic way because it makes me think of the teams as boy bands battling on the Rift (even Goong had his groupies in the audience). At least OGN has a style and look they're trying to accomplish while Riot often looks like it's trying too hard to be something it's not.

@breesantos2885 7 жыл бұрын

I was sad to see SI go, but honestly, this Reflections was better than any SI episode i could have dreamed of. some of the best moments in SI were when Monte/Thorin would digress into culture/philosophy/life topics for a few minutes and I'd think "hey, I'd totally listen to them talk about this for an entire show."

@DJ-vx9gl 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing reflections episode, love seeing content with you and Montecristo.

@Anab32mtl 7 жыл бұрын

Will miss monte in the lol scene, very sad how things ended, cant blame you for what you did and most of all best of luck in OverWatch. I am sure the OverWatch scene will appreciate your work in OverWatch

@tomasm298 7 жыл бұрын

I used to watch most of summoning insights, now i miss the quality content you two produced in LoL. Wish you best of luck in your games, hoping that maybe one day you would do one more episode for LoL. It is quite empty without the show regarding quality LoL content. Just want to thank you for all these years. :)

@jarreldoomis3502 7 жыл бұрын

it seems like Monte holds Phreak in a really high regard. That just makes me respect Monte even more. Love you Monte, been a huge fan for a long time. Keep it up

@Goodpsychiatry 7 жыл бұрын

This was fantastic. Thanks!

@beckmarischen9392 7 жыл бұрын

I like the book discussion. I needed more recommendations for the future. Count of Montecristo is on my list now!

@MrVolt16 7 жыл бұрын

That hour long talk on literature and symbolism was genuinely one of the best discussions I've seen you guys have. How about making a podcast where you discuss literature and art with Monte? Would totally watch that.

@TydusKiraMana 7 жыл бұрын

Absolute gem such intelligence on both sides. Thank you for the great content :

@user-jr8rz7bx3v 7 жыл бұрын

2:37:37 until 2:38:45 . Monte died for EVERY SINGLE Caster in LoL... Riot Casters getting 50%-100% MORE than before. Some DOUBLED their income. Even in that topic about casters compensation people hated you so stupidly hard, I even thought they did not understand, that the topic is about RIOT CASTERS BEING WELL. So thank you. Thank you so much for your sustain and courage for the greater good (in this context riot casters) And btw, nice edit at the end with Crumbz :D

@hubs4694 7 жыл бұрын

Korean felacio entousiast... golden Monte, pure gold.

@Mrkostaszx 7 жыл бұрын

When did he say that? Did i miss it?

@Ellefsen97 7 жыл бұрын

Very early on

@matasbackevicius115 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Montecristo I really supported you, and will still support you man, really sad to not have you anymore in league, hopefully wish you utmost success ! Thank for everything!

@nypad5 7 жыл бұрын

"let me begin by telling you about my username" 6 Hours later

@sarutobifan 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Thorin. Love the latest content.

@marlowe5511 7 жыл бұрын

Would love it if you started a side channel like thooorin, where you talked about more general things concerning life, philosophy and subjects outside of esports! Definitely the kind of mind that I think a lot of people would appreciate, especially considering your ability to articulate ideas.

@TheDreded603 7 жыл бұрын

Man I miss this content. Great reflections guys.

@hservius 7 жыл бұрын

Timestamps Curteousy of my_pants_are_on_FlRE on reddit (he was the first I saw, so im crediting him. it would help to have this on youtube too) 00:00 Intro 01:25 MonteCristo the character 15:14 Moby Dick 22:47 Parzival 34:47 Where his education might have gone 38:02 Finding time for himself 44:35 Persona 56:43 Ritual effects 1:01:19 Phreak 1:07:33 ggChronicle and journalism 1:12:55 Denver Broncos and parallels with shot-calling 1:23:19 Styles 1:29:25 Top Koreans going to the West 1:31:18 Coaching CLG 1:38:12 Doublelift 1:43:05 Link 1:47:55 Zorozero to CLG 1:55:52 Did CLG hang him out to dry? 1:57:22 Locodoco 2:01:45 TSM and their influence 2:07:11 Summoning Insight 2:16:53 Monte's stance on Riot changing 2:20:20 Riot trying to push Monte out 2:22:53 Renegades being banned 2:27:17 LCK replacing OGN Champions 2:29:25 LCK being split between OGN and SpoTV 2:33:35 Negotiating with Blizzard 2:38:50 People in LoL not acknowleding his departure 2:45:15 Time LoL has left 2:46:36 Summoning Insight dying 2:55:18 Will we work together on events? 2:57:50 Switching to OW 3:01:10 OWL 3:03:55 MadLife of OW 3:07:44 Diamondprox of OW 3:09:23 Froggen of OW 3:10:38 Flame of OW 3:12:21 Final words

@robertsyrett1992 7 жыл бұрын

OMG this could be the "On Being" Podcast. Best reflections in a long time.

@oscargarcia2011 7 жыл бұрын

watching thorin nod now will always remind me of one the best interviews ever.

@SLiCe3000 6 жыл бұрын

bringing zorozero up is such a thorin thing to do :D I love it

@articunto 7 жыл бұрын

I can listen to Monte and thorin talk about philosophical outlooks of man for fucking hours

@nikolasimovic9193 6 жыл бұрын

Monte is a LoL expert, he's helped me get better at the game so much, and it's so true that back in the day I was playing and watching LoL ( s2 s3 s4 ) Ogn had like 10-15k viewers and like 40k during the playoffs which is very sad cuz it's the best and most competitive scene to this day n u could learn so much from it

@msft777jf 7 жыл бұрын

MonteCristo, it is a pleasure to hear you speak. all 3 hours.

@Domikii 7 жыл бұрын

Still can't belive that Monte is no longer a part of League of Legends in anyway. I really loved his cast and ingame knowledge.

@omgwateverlol 7 жыл бұрын

by far my most favorite reflections

@OpticalResonator 7 жыл бұрын

I'm 20 mins in and had to stop it to comment: I fucking love this, thank you Thorin and Monte.

@rudiausbuddln6486 7 жыл бұрын

my body is so ready for this

@MitsuoRLCoach 4 жыл бұрын

this was a good rewatch

@PassivesAbseits 7 жыл бұрын

It's really sad that all those bridges had to be burned... mostly because I (who actually read Parzival) always really enjoyed Montes Work. But mostly because I think it will really hurt Riot in the long run that they lost one of the smartest guys in eSports for ever...

@GEM4sta 7 жыл бұрын

PassivesAbseits uhhhh, what? Getting rid of Monte hasn't affected Riot at all, except maybe that they don't have to hear from the whiny little bitch. I'm sure Rito is loving not having to invite him to events honestly

@joshcruzat309 7 жыл бұрын

holy fuck this guy is so ignorant

@GEM4sta 7 жыл бұрын

Josh Cruzat ikr? lmao

@joshcruzat309 7 жыл бұрын

i meant you are

@GEM4sta 7 жыл бұрын

Josh Cruzat typ. Monty fan, 0 sense of humor lmao

@CorrupTed666ersdg 7 жыл бұрын

Monte played a huge role in the LCS I remember him adding suggestions that the LCS should consider and you will see them apply Monte suggestions within a few weeks for example like the best of fives in competitive play however I don't blame Monte for leaving the game that gives him such a hard time

@Zionrezort 7 жыл бұрын

HOLY SHIT MONTE, FINALLY!

@Wwheeles 7 жыл бұрын

I love these

@Tegme 7 жыл бұрын

Monte! My man, Parzival (king Arthur, Round table and shite) where my fkn bed time stories

@Moontrimmer86 7 жыл бұрын

Monte + Thorin + 3 hours = Summoning Insight

@DatDudeLM 7 жыл бұрын

I think having a LCS team of some sort coached by Monte with LS as an analyst and Thorin doing something would be a tremendous amount of fun as a fan.

@pgdyankov 7 жыл бұрын

Monte Cristo is my favourite character and one of my favourite books, so awesome choice and backstory, Monte. I very much identify with the guy as well :)

@Dagraine 7 жыл бұрын

Nice Regi easter egg Thorin, keep up the good work mate

@senTien.6 7 жыл бұрын

Monte, please make another channel (Like Thorin's Side) where you review books. Awesome episode. Missed this duo. Maybe reflections with Richard Lewis next?

@Iyetube 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for calling a portion of your viewers, not crazy. We appreciate :P

@sebastianruud2669 7 жыл бұрын

I miss these guys and summoning insight

@thefreed 7 жыл бұрын

hey Thorin and MonteCristo, I am Korean American living in LA, and I am interested in the occult as well. I knew both of you guys for awhile, but I was pleasantly surprised when I found out you guys were interested in the occult too. (Not from this video, but from some of your other videos.) You guys are really interesting to me, and I was sad that Monte Cristo is not working in league OR OGN anymore. Yet I'll be looking forward to both of your future works, please give us more interesting tidbits about yourselves.

@rayaqin 7 жыл бұрын

why do you think Monte is interested in the occult? I know Monte as a rational man.

@thefreed 7 жыл бұрын

I think the occult can be very rational in some sense. It can be intuitively rational... but it depends on the type of occultism I think... Jungian psychology, alchemy and stuffs like this can be very logical in some SENSES! there's a lot of philosophy to be had here... I kind of felt that Thooorin and Monte Cristo emit a very different aura of themselves compared to other people who work in this scene and it's very interesting that we have similar interests... Which is what makes me like them more :P.

@MultiStefano8 7 жыл бұрын

Very good and interesting interview

@johnniemeredith9141 7 жыл бұрын

Can't upvote this enough times!!!!

@NicholasKimble 7 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome! Bring back Summoning Insight or something similar. I love hearing the banter about the scene. Chee hoo! Don't forget to bash the TSM kiddies 😁

@Destromath2 7 жыл бұрын

MY BODY IS READY FOR IT LETS GO

@LeagueIMO 7 жыл бұрын

Monte was the only reason I got into Overwatch as an Esport, and also the only reason I quit watching League esports. It's crazy how big of a difference one caster can have.

@StGeorgedragonhunter 7 жыл бұрын

I could hear you guys talk for hours, especially because it seems have very similar interests outside of e-sports.

@karstenberning 7 жыл бұрын

NEW SHOW!! Thorin and Monte speak about Philosophy! NEXT Nietzsche and the ÜBERMENSCH

@RandomAsia5555 7 жыл бұрын

3 hours? lets goooo

@timbrazeal4 7 жыл бұрын

OH SHIT LETS GO

@iceie2 7 жыл бұрын

I am a TSM fan and i love both @thorin @montecrisco. Bantering is your job and you do it well. a few bad tsm fans ruin it for all

@hwangsome 7 жыл бұрын

I like how he just randomly threw this in. "I forgot about all of that. They have a lot of fine products there." - Thorin in reference to Colorado

@paulfernand6224 7 жыл бұрын

We need more guys like montecristo in lol scene... Riot management is like the cable company of south park

@xingnotzing 7 жыл бұрын

Thank You Lord Monte and Lord Thoooorin.

@Ryan-to9vh 7 жыл бұрын

I happened to start watching the anime Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, last night. Surprisingly good, irrespective of its relation to the novel.

@PaulRamen 3 жыл бұрын

2:25 That's exactly what I did. Took my two years bu finished that damn novel in my native French. I can finally proceed with the rest of the interview now :}

@shokill 7 жыл бұрын

Monte, you absolutely nailed it on the "older" millennial audience. I'm in that crowd. I never thought about Riot actually embracing summoning insight, that would have been amazing.

@theWexlord 7 жыл бұрын

Just looking at the timeline topics gets me hyped as fuck

@user-kh9kn2sx6z 7 жыл бұрын

The way Thorin's face lights up when Monte says he's about to drop a bomb at 2:37:42 is priceless.

@MrMaxAnd100 7 жыл бұрын

Who needs school when you have Montie and Thorin

@CuongKingPhu 7 жыл бұрын

3h interview. thank you based thooorin and monte

@gzp3336 7 жыл бұрын

Both of you already work great individually but as a duo you are pretty much the best e-sports has to offer. I could imagine it to turn out great if you were to work on a Game together and im just saying Overwatch combines the two Genres you were working in b4 (to a certain extend) ;). Wish you great Succes for the Future!

@JosephDelgadillo 7 жыл бұрын

Best bromance in esports :)

@silver1407 3 жыл бұрын

a man of taste

@sheezanalamgir6889 7 жыл бұрын

This show is awesome

@sheezanalamgir6889 7 жыл бұрын

yes

@oscargarcia2011 7 жыл бұрын

Monte please just get into csgo, would make my life so perfect.

@danielbeckmann5754 6 жыл бұрын

Monte was at AllStar Paris 2014 btw :D

@setharroyo7 7 жыл бұрын

Monte I'm a tsm fan. I've always valued your opinion (even when I felt they were a bit biased towards korea), and I wanted to say I miss you in the lol scene, but you do you. In addition, the fact that your apart of the competitive overwatch scene makes me want to watch it despite not playing it myself. thanks for everything! you too thorn keep it up.

@tshykdghost996 7 жыл бұрын

YEA my two favourite analysts in one video.. Monty is awesome too :D

@pierce_grossman 7 жыл бұрын

Courtesy of u/my_pants_are_on_FlRE 00:00 Intro 01:25 MonteCristo the character 15:14 Moby Dick 22:47 Parzival 34:47 Where his education might have gone 38:02 Finding time for himself 44:35 Persona 56:43 Ritual effects 1:01:19 Phreak 1:07:33 ggChronicle and journalism 1:12:55 Denver Broncos and parallels with shot-calling 1:23:19 Styles 1:29:25 Top Koreans going to the West 1:31:18 Coaching CLG 1:38:12 Doublelift 1:43:05 Link 1:47:55 Zorozero to CLG 1:55:52 Did CLG hang him out to dry? 1:57:22 Locodoco 2:01:45 TSM and their influence 2:07:11 Summoning Insight 2:16:53 Monte's stance on Riot changing 2:20:20 Riot trying to push Monte out 2:22:53 Renegades being banned 2:27:17 LCK replacing OGN Champions 2:29:25 LCK being split between OGN and SpoTV 2:33:35 Negotiating with Blizzard 2:38:50 People in LoL not acknowleding his departure 2:45:15 Time LoL has left 2:46:36 Summoning Insight dying 2:55:18 Will we work together on events? 2:57:50 Switching to OW 3:01:10 OWL 3:03:55 MadLife of OW 3:07:44 Diamondprox of OW 3:09:23 Froggen of OW 3:10:38 Flame of OW 3:12:21 Final words

@blackbeanburger3357 7 жыл бұрын

god damnit. i thought monte carried around that train whistle everywhere. guess i'll just have believe he only brings it out for special occasions, like when he's plowing a nice esports hunnie

@TheCardbry 7 жыл бұрын

As a 27 year old, I never post on reddit, I don't care too much for the drama. I enjoy these talks and I respect monte for leaving Lol. Riot needed to play fair and the casters deserve better pay, I really want them to join an all esports union or something. I love LCK and LPL is interesting to say the least. The LCS like how many koreans say the solo que at challenger level is really chaotic, people thinking they need to make huge play to win the game, they aren't patient enough and that's why korean is better they understand pick bans and macro better. I love the LCK style that echos Bobby Fischer where you squeeze your opponent and force them into a corner, it's not flashy it's methodical.

@rayaqin 7 жыл бұрын

Monte talking about league related stuff? Yes, please.

@Matt77093 7 жыл бұрын

as a TSM fan from before the baylife era, im often embarrassed to be a part of Tsms fan base ahaha. I miss seeing monte on this channel and im glad he's not working for riot. i hope he continues to be successful! worlds arent the same without you!!! :(

@Priestjenej 7 жыл бұрын

Holy shit is this real? or this is just fantasy? reflections? Thank god you decided to continue with this content.

@itzdrizzybk 7 жыл бұрын

I have been a TSM fan and a Monte/Thorin fan since season 3. It's sad to see that my favorite caster of all time thinks that I hate him because I like TSM. #FeelsBadMan.

@SvenStarcraft 7 жыл бұрын

No it's sad to see such intellectual characters have so much irrational hatred for a team simply because they were trolled by idiots. "Oh, some vocal retards who like TSM trolled me wahhh. I will hate them for all eternity." It's really pathetic and a total ego trip by both of them.

@JUNGLEsausage 7 жыл бұрын

Like they said in this video and a million times before, they don't hate the team, just the obnoxious, pouty and immature fans of TSM.

@SamWalton999 7 жыл бұрын

Monte and thorin. I can die happy

@AnguishPvP 7 жыл бұрын

Damn Thoorins new coat is nice.

@peerreview8970 7 жыл бұрын

While Monte fancies himself Dantès, some might consider Thorin to be Mondego (Perhaps Moses can be Jacopo, barely present in the tale, but gets a greater role in the TV movie). I do wonder what wisdom Monte will leave us with as Thorin is bleeding out in the countryside. I'm sure we'll all be waiting in anticipation to see this tale play out on a modern stage.

@kairiaaa 6 жыл бұрын

I listened to 2 nerds talk for 3 hours. Probably the best 3 hours of my life

@mrshinyBLACKTAIL 7 жыл бұрын

Monte The G.O.A.T

@rayaqin 7 жыл бұрын

my god it would have been wonderful if Monte hosted the desk of IEM

@DoctaPhill 7 жыл бұрын

come for an interview get a lesson In history and philosophy 10/10 ps please please do make that second channel Monte the world needs it

@Swift-Justice 7 жыл бұрын

It's just so hard to imagine overwatch succeeding. Really curious to see if I'm wrong.

@dobbs663 2 жыл бұрын

u were right

@vladatomic7039 6 жыл бұрын

i dont know why but montecristo and joe miler forever i think its reminiscent of happy childhood :(

@thegreatest701 7 жыл бұрын

This just remind me of how suck it is to not have monte in lck...

@patryk6492 7 жыл бұрын

3:05:00 - there is a Faker in TF2 though. It's b4nny, he is a champion of 9 out of 13 ESEA LAN tournaments in TF2, two times TF2 world champion on i52 and i55. He, with his team froyotech, also won 8 out of 9 past ESEA Invite leagues in TF2.

@CCNightcore 7 жыл бұрын

That crumbz thing had me like "fkn autoplay."

@15Lanzo15 7 жыл бұрын

2:13:00 Monte wrecking Riot. Priceless.

@Atika55555 4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it's in this video, i'm searching for them talking about skt vs rox semi final 2016 as the best series of all time. Please help if you know what i'm talking about, thanks you!

@dretsie3266 7 жыл бұрын

aah Monte, I miss you so much babe :/

@what9120 7 жыл бұрын

Monte is basically esports Jesus.

@FilterBySubgenre 7 жыл бұрын

Just another Artosis, only more famous now because he did league, will fall a bit with Overwatch. But will remain great yes.

@TheMarkoSeke 7 жыл бұрын

I find it interesting how when Monte talks about his ban from Riot, he never says that the violations didn't happen, he only says how Riot didn't have any evidence.

@MorganOliver77 7 жыл бұрын

I wonder if these guys have read Riddley Walker by Russell Hoban..

@06109562877 7 жыл бұрын

I knew it was a loop because every time you scoffed and put your hand down you'd follow it with a blink and then two fast blinks. Once i noticed, it triggered me for the rest of the interview. hilarious