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As Rishi Sunak appeals to Reform UK defectors to stick by the Conservatives, Tom Swarbrick speaks to Reform UK Leader, Richard Tice.
Tice admits to Tom he'd be happy with a referendum on whether the UK should leave the European Convention on Human Rights.
The conversation also touches on offensive tweets by former members of the party, with Tice acknowledging there have been 'racist comments' made by some, but insisting that they have been 'dealt with immediately'.
Regarding the chance of further Tory MPs detecting, Tice states that he'd be surprised if more didn't join Reform by the time the general election comes around.
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