Well, seeing data was interesting, but at the same time it's still pretty relative, becouse their statistics depend on refridgerator models they have at their disposal and are mostly selling, so those numbers regard only specific models not brand as a whole. I think the main point of this video is you cann't trust the newest tecnologies that hadn't been around for a few years (sometimes new car models have these issues that time only reveals) and if you wanna a fridge to last, you should go for fridges that are focused mainly on their duty of refridgerating and freezing, otherwise you end up buying "prototypes". Another thing to keep in mind is availabuility of spare parts, not all brands guarantee you finding spare parts available on the market for a long time, and average of majority brands is 10 years, some even less, but there are brands that guarantee you spare parts for longer. I had to change the fridge last month and the old one lasted me for over 25 years, but it reached a point of slowly giving signs his lifespan was running out and the electricity consumption was ridiculously high and I replaced it with another built in fridge of same dimension and capacity, I went for Beko and plain old neo frost tecnology with 2 separate inverter compressors for fridge and freezer that's been around for the past 8 years and compressors have a 10 year warranty, plus it was on sale and the manufacturer was giving extended 5 year full warranty on that model. As far as energy consumption goes, the new one consumes in one year what the old one used to in 3 months, so basicly I'll be paying off this new fridge through my electric bill reduction before my full warranty expires. There's really a lot to consider nowadays when you purchase a new appliance

You have a great channel, Ben. I always consult your channel before buying any home appliance. Thank you.

@@-2u2 thanks!

Ben, I agree completely on seeing the numbers broken down by freezer placement. A couple years ago I had to deal with a dead, 1 year old, LG fridge. It was eventually replaced with a Whirlpool top mount (based on personal experience and internet wisdom). It wasn't until I saw your video specifically calling out this specific style of Whirlpool that I realized my experience was likely pretty typical. A fridge is a just big insulated box with a heat pump, right? The box is so out of square that the handles are about 1/4" out of alignment. The interior is just as bad. The door seals were pulling away from the doors when I got it. Basically it looks like Hellen Keller got drunk and tried to build a fridge. After dealing with the LG I got some cheap wireless temperature probes so I stuck them in the Whirlpool. I had to fiddle with it quite a bit to prevent the temperature from spiking too much during the defrost cycle. It works, but it's not a nice fridge and I can see why warranties are so short these days. I looked around at some of the big box stores and outlets and yeah, all of the top mount Whirlpool (etc) fridges look this poorly built. Probably the most disappointing thing was that Whirlpool no longer sells top mounts with the super useful split shelves. More recently I got a Frigidaire top mount after you said the magic words (mechanical timer). Like the LG, the compressor sounds like a ringing bell but… wow… it does the one thing a fridge should do, it keeps a consistent interior temperature with no fiddling with the controls.

Thank you for coment it helps alot

What do you think about the LG LRFXC2606S or Kitchen Aid KRMF706ESS? I found that Kitchen Aid from a local outlet with a few small side dents...all new still in wrapper for 2000 from it's origial price of 4000+. My LG just recenelty went out and they seem to have tons of issues with the compressors.

@@ffblegend I wouldn’t get LG, Samsung and Electrolux. Kitchen aid is made by Whirlpool. Kitchen Aid is the “high end” of Whirlpool, so it’s more expensive. You’re just paying for the name and the aesthetics, the quality is the same. Whirlpool owns Maytag, Amana, Jenn Air, Admiral as well. So by default, I would go with a Whirlpool brand.

I want to say i'm here researching fridges because my Samsung broke after 1.5 years and they're claiming the problem is anything but what's still covered under warranty. Wish i'd done my research first. AVOID SAMSUNG. If it breaks the customer service will do everything they can to avoid fixing under warranty.

China made small compressors is the main problem now.

I remember when my mother's fridge was changed over to 60 cycle. It still worked when she passed.

We need to have a birthday party for your fridge 🎂

That qualifies as an antique in my book. Is the latch kid safe and also, do you have to defrost it the old fashion way?

That's great!! My grandmother had one that lasted forever, too. It was powered by gas. Though the unit was large, the freezer was small.

I think all of of us have examples like that. The big difference is having mechanical thermostats, a compressor, and cooling coils that are make of thick wall copper. Units like that did not have to worry about power surges or electronics over heating.

I have a toaster from the 1930’s, a sunbeam, art deco style, and it makes perfect toast.

@@trishayamada807 Art Deco style? I'm so totally jealous!

WOW! BUY IT' HAS TO. BE DEFROSTED. A LOT OF WORK

@@trishayamada807 my granny has a sunbeam coffee maker! 47 years now. Still makes great coffee😊😊☕☕

@@captainamericaamerica8090 that’s amazing! I go through a coffee maker a year. Ive bought cheap $10 to a $300 coffee maker, each lasted roughly a year. So very disappointing. I’m thinking maybe a French press or something…

Wooden wheels haven't increased in price since then?

You're Wrong, Messala !

So glad to hear you've had a great experience with your Amana!

I also have an Amanda which I have had for appx 48 years. Never repaired still working perfectly. I keep it in the garage because I have remodeled my kitchen

We have a 1997 Amana and no issues ever. Doesn't need defrosting ever either.

So what brand do you recommend? I really don’t want a freezer on top though. I have considered a side by side. I love the French door for ease but am leaving behind a Samsung and just want a good fridge with a good ice maker. We are planning to only by if the ice maker is in the freezer not on the door in the refrigerator 🙄

Whirlpool

@@elmbaker1683 I have a Whirlpool only 9 years old. Broken and because sealed system costly to repair. Is there any fridge without this sealed system anymore? Amanna as good as whirlpool- and is 9 years good by today’s standards? Thank you for your comment. So helpful!

I had a whirlpool for 18 years before it died. I then had an LG (still do in my rental) that is 16 years old and still working. In my house now, I have a Samsung (about 5 years old) and the Icemaker stopped working after 2 years. The fridge does not stay a cold as it should (set to 34 but fridge is 43). I think the problems stem from new compressor designs that are running R600 instead of the older refrigerant. These "more efficient" compressors just don't work as well. Putting an icemaker in the french door design is just bad engineering...you have a component that needs to stay less than 32 degrees surrounded by a compartment that is above 32 degrees. It's like putting a warm blanket on a snowman. So no, they don't make them like they used to for sure. I would take a louder old style compressor that will work for 20 years over a new compressor that just doesn't work as reliably as the old ones did.

We have a Crosley Shelvador that my folks bought in 1951. It has never been serviced to my knowledge. Still going strong.

Ur a true american😊

Very cool (literally, and figuratively), but have you compared the real world power usage compared to a modern fridge of a roughly equivalent size.? I would imagine that the electricity savings with a new fridge would pay for itself in record time.

You know new fridges pay for themselves in technological progress eg less power consumption. Jyst get rid of old shit preferably in an environmental friendly way.

Imagine the power consumption on that one.🤑

​@@liaratsoni9768cheaper than replacing broken modern appliances every 3 years

If they make em like they used to, they won't make money to pay stockholders. Also, Congress stuck their nose in our business and put on so many restrictions

@@peggycole7162 Doubt that many of the Chinese companies have stockholders.

At that time, Frigidaire units were made by General Motors, Kelvinator was made by American Motors Corporation (formerly Nash) and Philco was a Ford Motor Company product. Frigidaire was sold off and is now made by Electrolux, the company that made cheap vacuum cleaners back in the 70s. Ford sold Philco in 1973 and Kelvinator is now owned by either LG (Lucky/Gold Star) or Samsung, both purveyors of scrap masquerading as quality products. REAL Frigidaire units stated "Product of General Motors" on the door emblem. Air conditioning compressors on 1960s GM cars also bore the Frigidaire name.

But can my refrigerator also save me the most time and money?

same with automobiles

My husband says same as you.

I just need something to keep my food cold. I do not need a "smart" refrigerator to let me know when I need to do shopping, browse the Internet, etc. It just has to keep my food cold. That's the only thing that matters!

Just like a basic car like a Toyota Corolla, plain and simple but will run 100’s of thousands of miles almost trouble free. Better off with a regular old top freezer unit with no ice maker or computer pad.

Agreed, add LG to that list. I have gone to the old reliables GE and KitchenAid and have been trouble free. I think the key is to buy models with only basic functions and avoid complex electronics.

I bought Bosch and GE kitchen appliances 6 years ago. Zero issues.

Yeah, I had one of those killer washing machines they had a recall on. Was out $900. Had to get rid of it, only 2 yrs old, violently jumping off the floor, scared to death of it. Never again will I buy a Samsung product.

I had a Samsung. It was the biggest piece of junk. I ever owned, other then a General Motors product

I have a regular French door going on 5 years I hope I get 15 years out of it without repairs

I only buy top freezer models.

I have an Samsung that has had no problems. I bought it in 2011.

I have a two year old GE that allows moisture in the room air to freeze up in the ice maker opening. That’s what I call a POS.

@@WhittyPics My Frigidaire top freezer model lasted 9 month and Frigidaire repair said it couldn't be repaired. At least they refunded me the price of it. NONE ARE ANY GOOD.

@@RStark-ek7mh - I have two of the Craftsman belt drive garage openers. Over twenty years old. But a few years ago there is a plastic gear inside the opener that “failed” - the plastic gear teeth were worn away - on both of them, first on one and then a short time later on the other. Anyway, that part is not expensive and is a common repair.

I was born in the early 1970s and it was in the 80s when appliances began to break down and die after a short ownership. Back then, the assumption was that products were being made too well, made to last a lifetime which cut into continuous sales. No need to buy any new steam irons if the one I bought 70 years ago still works. Imagine everybody doing that and then passing it down to their children after they pass. So, it was said that manufacturers were using less reliable parts than before and generally designing appliances not as well as before to make sure they always had new customers (new money constantly coming in). But that was about American companies. Foreign companies always had the reputation of manufacturing inferior products from appliances to automobiles. It wasn't until the mid to late 80s when Sony and Samsung took over the radio industry with top notch radios and walkmans that foreign companies began to become the rage. Then when Datsun became Nissan, the automobile industry people sought out foreign for luxury in Mercedes Benz, BMW, and Alfa Romeo. Anyway, you get the gist.

Thank u for the reply. All the techs I've contacted have told me the same thing. My mom is 5' tall and the ice box to the left is easier and more accessible than top load freezers.

LG has only been in the biz 30 years and they make way better laundry units than American 100 year old giant whirlpool…

A BIG caution now about GE appliances... Nov. 20, 2023 I called GE Customer Service 800 number to try to get a technician out ASAP to fix my GE side by side, it stopped working. I'm in Miami, which between Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, you have about 5 million or so people. It took more than an hour just to get a live person on the phone to try and schedule a service call. The lady said the earliest they could send someone out would be Dec. 5. That's 15 days just to get a service call; DEPLORABLE SERVICE by a major appliance company. One appliance repairman told me that GE uses a subcontractor to do it's repairs, A&E Appliance Repair. I've seen their trucks around town. IF GE is that backlogged with repairs, it should either hire more subcontractors, or stop selling appliances. GE sells washers, dryers, stoves, microwaves, dishwashers and refrigerators. I really have to hesitate about future purchases of GE products if they can't provide service in a reasonable amount of time.

Top freezer is a colossal bad idea. You go into the fridge a lot more than freezer

Thank you, I'm currently building a house and looking for appliances, that's a great idea I never thought of.

That’s a great idea!….if you have the space.

Frig is going in the kitchen, freezer in the garage, I have the space in the garage.@@vroom6490

Easy repair actually.

Whirlpools refrigerator has leaking problems, so if you want your floor rotted out, buy one!

@@roygorman6624 thanks for the info.

I need a recommendation on a 27sq/ft side-by-side, no ice-maker or water dispenser. Please!!!!

​@@rondail5675Whirlpool

A BIG caution now about GE appliances... Nov. 20, 2023 I called GE Customer Service 800 number to try to get a technician out ASAP to fix my GE side by side, it stopped working. I'm in Miami, which between Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, you have about 5 million or so people. It took more than an hour just to get a live person on the phone to try and schedule a service call. The lady said the earliest they could send someone out would be Dec. 5. That's 15 days just to get a service call; DEPLORABLE SERVICE by a major appliance company. One appliance repairman told me that GE uses a subcontractor to do it's repairs, A&E Appliance Repair. I've seen their trucks around town. IF GE is that backlogged with repairs, it should either hire more subcontractors, or stop selling appliances. GE sells washers, dryers, stoves, microwaves, dishwashers and refrigerators. I really have to hesitate about future purchases of GE products if they can't provide service in a reasonable amount of time.

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I actually disconnected my ice maker to use that space for freezer items. Fridge is going on 6 years, no issues so far. Top freezer…crappy (cheap model) Frigidaire brand.

Agree. Same with washer and dryers. Cheap basic with mechanical timers are most reliable.

Screw that I want ice and water in the door its not THAT much of a sacrifice! Lol!

Just this month (February 2024) had a 2016 LG fridge fail. As usual, it was the compressor that failed.

An LG made 11 years ago would be rouhgly around 2011. That puts it in the realm of possibly being made before they had their problems. You only see their massive failures after the introduction of the linear compressor which was phased in around 2012.

Which compressor did they use before 2012?

My fridge is a Maytag. I've had it since 2005 and it's been great, coming up on its 20 year anniversary. My downstairs freezer is a Kenmore, also 2005. With Sears being gone, I don't know if I can get support for my Kenmore or not. It's been a great freezer.

I have a Maytag stove and it routinely discolors and burns the tips off the cast iron porcelain-coated grate finish. I'm on my second set of grates and they are burning too.

Don't get the obsession with "matching" a brand. If everything is SS aren't they already matching?

This is just about reliability, not what is the best for your needs (i.e French door vs side by side vs bottom freezer vs top freezer or built in)

Sounds like Sub Zero has treated you well, glad to hear it! Thanks for watching.

We hear so many negative stories about appliances breaking after a short period so it's always nice to hear when people who have had refrigerators for multiple decades like yourself. Thanks for sharing!

I don’t know… the only two refrigerators that we ever had break down were Whirlpool, so 🤷‍♀️

That was years ago. Frigidaire today sucks! Their products are unbelievably unreliable!

That's really common and it's usually just the little electric cycle timer. It's the equivalent of an electric clock. They are cheap and easy DIY to replace. Mine is at the bottom of the unit on the right corner under the grate. In an emergency, many can be turned manually with a screwdriver to confirm malfunction and to make the unit cycle.

LG is terrible. Their compressor goes anytime. Moved into a house that had one and it went literally 1 month after 5 yrs from manufacture (didn't have the original receipt). They still warranty the part, if I remembered 7yrs from purchase or manufacture, but I had to incurr the labor charges at that point which was over $200 as the the tech was there for 2+ hrs. The tech said they can go at anytime, no predetermined point where failure can happen.

​@@garyf2871$200?? I have the same problem and LG is charging me $550-$625 to send a technician out. 😢

Just this month (February 2024) had the freezer fan and compressor fail simultaneously on a mid-2016 LG fridge. At 7.5 years old, it’s too young, but actually outlasted typical LG fridges, which is pathetic. Avoid LG fridges like the plague.

You didn't research LG first???

@@wholeNwon Research should not be necessary. The product should be better. LG makes a good t.v. but their appliances stink.

Whirlpool was excellent many years ago. It's CRAP' TODAY

You are sooo lucky. Sears told me American Home Shield will pay for the installation of the parts that they cover. Wrong!! I was told installation wasn't covered. Sears quoted $795 to install the compressor & God only knows how much for the remaining 2 parts that went out at the same time. Home Depot sold me a Frigidaire on sale for $800 plus dollars. I now wonder why I pay for insurance with AHS! Not moving forward. I'll never own another Kenmore appliance nor a contract from AHS.

@@peggygray4259 It's sad that quality has gone downhill on appliances - to spend so much money every few years to replace them is a hardship. I researched home warranty companies several years ago & decided it's better to have an emergency fund to cover these expenses. I'm more comfortable selecting my own trusted appliance repairmen or HVAC person. KZfaq has been such a great resource to DIY some repairs myself to save lots of $$!!

I had Sub Zero's in the last two houses. Bottom line, they're bullet proof. The repairs they needed were simple and inexpensive. I miss my Sub Zero's but this new house is just too small of a kitchen to handle one.

Update to this comment. My brother's LG fridge stopped keeping temperature going back and forth between the 30s and the 60s. He had to get a new fridge. The LG lasted about 5 years and had too much grief.

Thank you for the kind words! We always aim to give the most accurate information to our viewers.

I'm so glad to hear about your aunt's great experience with that fridge! Hopefully her new fridge works well for her as well.

@@BoulevardHome- it was 2003

Gee a 25 cent fuse located in an easy access would probably take care of this problems, they seem to do a good job with computers. It might surprise you how many of these appliances are made and controlled by China?

I agree completely. It's the kind of thing I can't see working, so I was a little sceptical. But then I had been noticing things in my office would die too often. Separately, power dropped out often, but only briefly, so I bought several UPS's, with surge protection. After a couple of years, I noticed nothing was dying anymore. It really made a difference.

Seems like the public need to have surge protectors for their entire home, at the main power panel. Electric utility companies have failed the public in the past 25 years as they used to provide clean continuous power. Today, we are subject to all sorts of issues like a third world country has with electricity yet the power cost in the USA is a good ten times more money. A whole house surge protector seems to be the only solution considering everything we purchase these days has a circuit board that was made for "perfect voltage regulation".

I think a smart appliance is stupid. I do like my ice maker though. And because of my bad back I wanted the bottom fridge. I'm getting rid of my lower cabinet doors and putting in drawers. Now I'm trying to calculate what my lifespan will be trying to determine if my new fridge will outlive me. I've probably got another 15 years in me.

@@donnaarehartpiffier8800 Agree. All those 'smart' do-dads are not required and just add to the cost of the appliance. They also make it more expensive to repair.

I was in that boat. Bought an LG new in 2018. Broke in early 2021 (yay pandemic) and it took 62 days for it to get repaired under warranty. This included 3 separate repair visits due to incorrect diagnosis and wrong parts. (It was a bad compressor). I had a baby at the time and let me tell you how much fun it was for my wife to be pumping and not able to store milk in the freezer. And there werent even other fridges/freezers available to buy during that time.

It’s the linear compressor in LG models that’s the problem. Don’t believe me? Just Google it.

I currently have a similar fridge except mine also has the "beer drawer" as I call it in the middle and I haven't had an issue with it so far. It's going on 12 years now that I've had it. Just lucky perhaps?

Glad to hear that, thanks for the comment!

That's unbelievable a 58 yr appliance still going strong! I love it. I can't get past 4yrs.

Very true! Thanks for sharing.

I have my LG side by side refrigerator for 20yrs

That’s the problem, they don’t make them like they used to anymore. My GE Fridge is 37 years old and it’s never had to have a repair.

@@kellypearsall4540 One of the main reasons for that is government mandates for higher efficiency. There are some new proposals being looked at now that would impose even more complex technology to achieve even greater efficiency. Same thing for clothes washers that now are supposed to clean your laundry in a shallow puddle of water.

Because you have an LG with an older style compressor that is reliable. The new "linear" compressor is not as reliable as the older ones. My whirlpool lasted 18 years before dying. My LG in my rental house is going on 16 years now. My 4 year old Samsung has plenty of issues. Newer tech is crap and unreliable.

That is very impressive!

What is even more impressive is that I have the matching stove that also still works...only fuses have been changed that is it.

Thats great, you might want to check its electricity consumption, old fridges can consume a lot.

My mom has a Westinghouse (Frigidaire) chest freezer she purchased in 1993, still going strong to this day.

@@nickknight5543 that's awesome! Remarkable.

Thanks for watching!

I rest my case! Lol!

We always suggest Bosch when it comes to dishwashers, but there are several other good options as well. Check out some of our other videos on dishwashers!

@@BoulevardHome thank you so kindly! 🙏

I have had a Whirlpool for 35 years. Also use Cascade. Works the best for me.

If you can afford one, get a Cove.

Your GE was American Made. Newer ones are made in China. Haier bought GE.

GE and GE Profile side by sides are made in Mexico

@@davemills5542 and owned by Haier and Haier is owned 47% by the Chinese Government

Our Bosch dishwasher is 13 years old and still going. Frigidaire fridge the same. (a basic fridge with top freezer). Our Samsung stove lasted 12 years and it was easier to buy a new one than pay the repair costs. None of them are fancy smart appliances. They do the job well. Washer lasted 15 years so we replaced the dryer as well. Both have multiple programs but hey are not the super top end expensive ones.

@rachelgamrs39,hello OSCH,fr the AMECAN MARKET,IS MADE IN CHINA,for them,QCC has been maintained, 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@@flybyairplane3528 LG appliances are made in China, Vietnam, Thailand, South Korea, Mexico. May even be made in Turkey for Europe. They are all made to a price point. Lowest priced models are made where the labour costs are cheaper.

Customer service is a big part of consumers' frustrations in these situations. We've heard a lot of similar stories with Samsungs customer service. Glad you were able to have a backup. Our goal with videos like this is to shed some light on the unfortunate issues consumers are facing with modern appliance reliability trends. It helps when people like you share stories like this. Thanks for sharing!

The warranty isn't through Lowe's but through Samsung. I think there was some kind of class-action lawsuit regarding LG and Samsung's compressors and an issue with getting replacement parts. My head is spinning trying to figure out what to buy.

Just curious, why did you purchase a Samsung to begin with?

​@@donnaarehartpiffier8800perhaps a bosche? Less horror stories

NOT! Our LG gave up the ghost after less than 4 years. There was no warning. It was working fine one day, and completely dead the next. We called around for a service repairman and were told it could not be done. No one in our area repairs them. No one in our area will touch them! I will never buy another LG fridge again. We replaced it with a Whirlpool.

My fridge is a Maytag, I've had it since 2005 and it's been great. I guess you never know.

I know of no GE refrigerator made by LG, but for a split second GE brand engineered Samsung french door refrigerators, but that is in the past. I know of no Whirlpool brand engineered products right now. Kenmore Elite french door source 795 refrigerators are made by LG, and just remember that Kenmore does not manufacture anything; all their products are brand engineered. There is a real good reason that one should buy a branded item and not a Kenmore, and that is while the brand may come up with warranty extensions and other fixes for certain issues, Kenmore rarely does, the brand won't touch a Kenmore. Example: LG might come up with a warranty extension on their refrigerators, but Kenmore won't do that for a Kenmore made by LG, and LG only repairs LG products.

@@mrtodd3620 GE appliances got bought by Haier, a Chinese company, in 2016. At one time GE Profile appliances were mostly made by someone else, but not sure who that was (or maybe still is).

@@Mark-rw3kw Usually putting a brand on a product from another company is based on not having an assembly line of their own to build such a product. I would say that if GE did that in the past, they probably don't do it anymore.

@@mrtodd3620 Youi may be correct, but GE Appliances is now owned by the Chinese firm Haier, so what happens in the future is anyone's guess. In terms of appliances, the Korean's (LG and Samsung) have pulled off a miracle similar to the Japanese manufacturing miracle started in the 1960's. Before that Japanese made goods were considered junk, and later the same was true for Korean goods, but no longer is that the case. Samsung in particular is an giant industrial powerhouse, including appliances, electronics, semiconductors, computers, smartphones, food processing, textiles, insurance, securities, ship building, etc.

@@Mark-rw3kw Yes, LG and Samsung are manufacturing powerhouses. Too bad that their refrigerators disappoint buyers to so quickly after purchase. Samsung has a very poor repair network in the USA. I don't know if they use any techs besides subcontractors. LG does have their own repair network, and they are pretty good at what they do. But why bother buying a Korean machine when one built in our own country is better? GE machines use proprietary devices (SmartHQ) to assist with diagnosis, and they are available for purchase by independent techs now. Very few techs have them so far. GE machines are also overly complicated, so a tech that doesn't have the device may not be able to repair a product well.