Refusing Kafka 8 times actually leads to a Secret Ending..

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10 ай бұрын

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@AbyssBreakdownYT 10 ай бұрын

Now I don't know what happened..

@AbyssBreakdownYT 10 ай бұрын

in her story

@user-5dr4wkc4b-ti-da3r-tsuj 10 ай бұрын

The whole quest was skipped sheesh😂

@nvrp13 10 ай бұрын

I legit was disappointed that I didn't do this now... No, I'm not the type who skip story. I actually play games cuz I wanna KNOW the story. But I make a vow to myself (lol, so dramatic) that I will turn Caelus into a certified troll and will be mean as all hell when I see Sampo or the Stellaron Hunters because it's lore accurate. And Caelus, rejecting Kafka's request is definitely in character with that image I know Kafka's story now, but man, do I wanna skip it all so I can spit on their speech about 'nobody have any true will' thing 😂

@RoomPole 10 ай бұрын

You don't have to be so sad, I don't know the story of any games I play

@kirotakahashi7173 10 ай бұрын

@@nvrp13It's a bit funny that she does mention that you saying no could have been a possibility that elio simply chose not to tell her, and that either way she will find a way to do things with or without you and that you will still in some way help her change, really feeds into their "no true free will as all actions already have a list of possibilities it could lead to", motto but at the same time showing that Kafka does value your choices and hopes that what you do whether it's what she intially wanted or not leads to a future she is striving to make happen with the stellaron hunters.

@TheVorshevsky 10 ай бұрын

>Agreed to meet Kafka >Says "No" right in front of her face >Refuses to elaborate >Leaves

@user-om3pk8ts4j 10 ай бұрын

MC is a jojo character himself

@signer0001 10 ай бұрын

Sigma Trailblazer grindset

@lollmaonice 10 ай бұрын

_CAN YOU HEAR THE SILENCE?_ _CAN YOU SEE THE DARK?_ _CAN YOU FIX THE BROKEN?_ _CAN YOU FEEL? CAN YOU FEEL MY HEART!?_

@shreddedmedkit 10 ай бұрын

@@lollmaoniceno.

@L16htW4rr10r 10 ай бұрын

To be fair, we are forced to meet her Like she said, we don't have a choice but to meet her.

@jeffrenjr 10 ай бұрын

"Reach the end of the story in your own way" MC: _does it_ Kafka: "but.. Elio's script" 👁️👄👁️

@Bi.Bo. 10 ай бұрын

MC: "You can throw it into a trash can. I might fish it out later."

@gabrielfreire3732 10 ай бұрын

Its MC Who says it

@IkkyArean 10 ай бұрын

@@gabrielfreire3732its kafka probably from elio but mc also says it

@skullkrusher-dx4kg 10 ай бұрын

Kafka indirectly tells you the future isn't predetermined. In the truth and lies game if you do the questions right.

@anastasiao4036 9 ай бұрын

@@skullkrusher-dx4kgYou keep saying this is every reply you do, but in my truth and lies game she uses that question as her lie and says no to if it's predetermined or not, meaning it is.

@raincandy3 10 ай бұрын

She really is pulling the whole "mother knows best but it's your choice... Just remember, mother knows best" script

@hero2470 10 ай бұрын

oh not the tangled

@gastoncoscia5031 10 ай бұрын

I would march into hell and back just to say "you are wrong" to a smart ass

@Punishthefalse 10 ай бұрын

She's channeling the power of an Asian Mom but she's not there yet. She hasn't wielded the slipper!

@chacha_zemisei 10 ай бұрын

@@PunishthefalseShe may not have a slipper but she has guns! Maybe that will work... Wait a minute

@LadyMinstrel 9 ай бұрын

She's not mc's mother... It was clarified clearly in this quest when she lied in the game.

@aurelia2132 10 ай бұрын

It's not included in the video, but you also get a text from Kafka the next day, basically congratulating you on defying fate.

@Goldiloxz 5 ай бұрын

What does it say?

@hgyuuuuhj098 2 ай бұрын

@@Goldiloxzit says: no more lucky pulls 4 U, bozo - sincerely Hoyoverse

@celestialsylveon6453 2 ай бұрын

@@Goldiloxz I was also curious, so I looked it up: Anonymous: (Trailblazer), I'm Kafka Kafka: Just FYI, it's been a journey, but I'm unharmed Kafka: Does free will exist? I can't say for sure, but you've made your own choice, transforming a nascent possibility into reality. Kafka: This is wonderful to you and I, two people both enslaved by fate Then it looks like you get 3 response options: 1 (Trailblazer): Take care, Kafka 2 (Trailblazer): Thank you. Stop contacting me 3 (Trailblazer): Gone again, huh? Error: Recipient does not exist

@signer0001 Ай бұрын

@@celestialsylveon6453 I've picked second reply, seems perfect. "Thanks, now fuck off"

@z33iihh 10 ай бұрын

Kafka: But Elio said you'll help me in his future visions.. MC: Elio is a dumbass, welcome to the real world where you never know what will happen.

@davidgonzalezparis250 10 ай бұрын

facts xd

@KogawaYuri-ENVtuber 9 ай бұрын

FACTS 🥳

@nerouo 9 ай бұрын

SAME PFP!!!!!

@Klier2003 5 ай бұрын

This is facts. And it's also unpredictable too. Hence Elio is a dumbass.

@HindrancUS 5 ай бұрын

The MC's ability to say no to Kafka is important plot factor ))

@kaizer-senpai2359 10 ай бұрын

March: Did you do it? Trailblazer: Yes March: On what cost? Trailblazer: EVERYTHING

@dekozagudesu9802 10 ай бұрын

Every Lore Boomb we want to know will never Know

@softlocker5941 10 ай бұрын

@@dekozagudesu9802 tbh you need youtube to se them all so not much changes

@YuTEM 10 ай бұрын

@@dekozagudesu9802Callus: now let me use my parallel-universe-computer(youtube) to see what happened if I did join her... YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE POSSIBILITIES ELLIO

@g0ld3nkomaino82 10 ай бұрын

me omw to jump on the alternate reality where the quest is actually done

@flameduel 10 ай бұрын

actually the only cost was lore and not beating up a child, you got the rewards still

@allentayoto7387 10 ай бұрын

The funny part about this is Kafka herself said she prefers it if Trailblazer would decide for herself and go against Ellio's script. And she said in a strangely ecstatic way back in the opening mission of the game.

@AbyssBreakdownYT 10 ай бұрын

Zero replies... Ok I will

@hariyu8375 10 ай бұрын

wow ok@@AbyssBreakdownYT

@skullkrusher-dx4kg 10 ай бұрын

If you play the game right you can get a truth saying the future isn't predetermined but we dont know if kafka hold up to the rules of the game.

@HRavenfolks 10 ай бұрын

As expected from HSR, where dialogue actually has impact to the story. You can literally end your game earlier if you refused to go with the Astral Express at the beginning of the game.

@noel2641 10 ай бұрын

@yaaaan6763I thought you can still get that ending if you go talk to asta, rather then board the astral Express

@Beltesha 10 ай бұрын

@yaaaan6763you can still stay with herta

@KeikiKirai 10 ай бұрын

@yaaaan6763 you can still choose to not going with the express tho

@scy11a17 10 ай бұрын

Wait so in the side quest you can avoid fighting or end the quest earlier depending on your answer? I never read all the dialogue and just tap the answer randomly

@Marisad 10 ай бұрын

@@scy11a17 bruh. bro has played too many games where your choices dont matter

@callmeandoru2627 10 ай бұрын

Note to self, every time Kafka tells you that you have to do something, you can always refuse it and get a secret ending

@ceiling_cat 6 ай бұрын

- No, mom! *secret ends him with a slipper*

@AIEgg 6 ай бұрын

@@ceiling_catthe Asian ending😢

@chaoskampf3095 10 ай бұрын

I refused her till the point she says there is no turning back and then was too anxious to leave 😅

@astraySparrow 10 ай бұрын

honestly, when I played I was too interested in the background of PC, so I didn't refuse much, so I got the other side of the coin, if you're collaborative you don't get much info either

@_Seeb_ 10 ай бұрын

@@astraySparrowi have a image with all the possible answers in her quest, if u want it i give u the link

@chilleroftheknight 10 ай бұрын

i would like the link@@_Seeb_

@Conqueror-of-Demons 10 ай бұрын

@@_Seeb_ i want the link

@pratikugalmugale9982 10 ай бұрын

@@_Seeb_give it to us already

@Blackoutdmc 10 ай бұрын

So interesting the last time the player was given a choice like this, the game straight up ENDED. But here, the quests just ends and you can go about your business. Heck, you even get an achievement for it. In any future quests involving Kafka or Blade, are they going to remember these previous actions?

@axis9038 10 ай бұрын

while dialogue might change, the story wont. Its like Kafka and elio say, theres no free will only an exhaustive list of possibilities, becasue theyre in a game and theyre aware of the limitations. whatever the devs write is all that can happen

@Nutt_lemmings 10 ай бұрын

@@axis9038do I get the same reward if I choose no, because that'd be a nice time saver.

@danielc.b6347 10 ай бұрын

@@Nutt_lemmingswell, there is some battles with rewards along the Quest so I guess no

@flurryquackers9356 10 ай бұрын

they BETTER.

@Raikos100 10 ай бұрын

Considering Elio saw that possibility, Kafka will still be cool about it, but most likely won't go around saying "thanks for the last time" imo

@youexpectedausername2242 10 ай бұрын

Feels like a Stanley Parable moment when you keep going against the narrator.

@feqol 10 ай бұрын

thank u for reminding me to play that game i honestly forgot

@valentino7592 5 ай бұрын

Narrator: When stelle went to the space station,she decided to board the train Stelle: chose to stay Narrator:What,nonononono,this wasn't supposed to be on the script,why would you decide to stay,you could have met new people and beat the final boss and have fun,but you chose to stay in Herta's space station and decided to be a researcher?well this story isn't for you

@IceKnight678 10 ай бұрын

The more confident she is at me accepting, the more I’m going to refuse

@L16htW4rr10r 10 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, same. That's how I function rl too.

@RyuusanFT86 10 ай бұрын

Imagine being so petty you can be easily manipulate to do literally anything. Edit: I was high as fuck and don't know what I was trying to say

@starshock4728 6 ай бұрын

@@RyuusanFT86It's just for Kafka, really. She's annoying and overconfident, so it makes you wanna disobey her.

@RyuusanFT86 6 ай бұрын

@@starshock4728 I didn't even know what I was trying to say dude

@isegeese 6 ай бұрын

@@RyuusanFT86 the edit made me laugh 💀

@Shian-ew4if 10 ай бұрын

this is interesting. she was literally begging us to stay, but in the way that we fell like she’s just telling that we might regret it. i really want to see what she really thinks of us and i wonder how can our decisions like in this quest change our relationships.

@brago900 10 ай бұрын

I did it and Blade told me that Trailblazer and Kafka went everywhere together and that this relationship was very old.

@feqol 10 ай бұрын

huh@@brago900

@someoneyoudontknow6083 10 ай бұрын

@@feqolAt the end of this quest you talk to Blade and he says you and Kafka used to travel together.

@birgaripadam7112 10 ай бұрын

It's more like we have proven destiny can be changed if you choose this, of course. Until now, she thinks the script was 100 percent guaranteed, but you just proved it was wrong, and you can make your own choices outside the script that Elio gives so in short we make our own destiny

@heilamwether8911 10 ай бұрын

⁠@@birgaripadam7112exactly, but this makes me question: how will this effect the next encounter with the stelleron hunters? If we went along with Kafka, then blade would know our existence, and the TB canonically wouldn’t know this info, so I wonder how the dev team will fix this next story quest, with this, I wonder if this will have an effect on how we “change” Kafka, but either way, cool way of doing the quest, wished that I didn’t do it the other way (was scared of losing the rewards.), and I hope their is more like this in the future.

@mynameisttroy 6 ай бұрын

“no im leaving” *changes to blade then runs away*

@shobhitmishra9266 4 ай бұрын

Blade : Enough of Elio's shit I am leaving

@Rafael57YT 10 ай бұрын

This feels wrong on so many levels

@SylarGKIW 10 ай бұрын

@@Tsuuunamii Yanqing wouldn't remember a thing, after our fight. Kafka can erase memories.

@Ikuraga 10 ай бұрын

@@Tsuuunamii HE DESERVES A SPANKING!

@Kyong008 10 ай бұрын

that depends ig, after all, why should we even care about them anyways?

@dekozagudesu9802 10 ай бұрын

like we Said careful when we choose Boys

@tamaratoth8326 10 ай бұрын

@@TsuuunamiiExactly, I rather beat up Kafka.

@cirnoday5521 10 ай бұрын

Nuh uh Nuh uh Nuh uh Nuh uh Nuh uh Nuh uh Nuh uh Nuh uh Achievement unlocked: Nuh uh.

@Verticas 10 ай бұрын

Elio: what the fuck.

@_black_bird 10 ай бұрын

It's super interesting how much you learn about Kafka in this interaction, the way she talks about fate as something that's just different lines that lead to similar places, how Elio taught her this, makes you wonder what her life before was, what her worldview was like. She also says that you can change her, maybe this is the way Elio promised her that she would be finally able to feel real fear, maybe later in the story we will do something that will scare her, maybe threaten her life, maybe she will care enough about us that when our life is threaten she will be afraid for us. The detail of her changing her tone of voice near the end is such a good decision from the dub's director cause she sounds geniuenly sincere, like she actually wants us to break fate, to make our own future. I know people don't like Kafka, she's a criminal and a manipulator, she's basically Makima but more morally grey, but I honestly feel all the Stellaron Hunters are fairly complex characters with interesting stories and that we'll eventually discover what makes them tick, and Kafka to me seems like even with all that's bad about her, actually cares about us, in her emotionless psychopathic way, who knows, maybe we were someone important to her before being made into an walking atomic bomb.

@amadeusnagamine9056 10 ай бұрын

People don't like Kafka ? Ok bud, lay off the alcohol because that could not be further from the truth

@anzheilen5217 10 ай бұрын

@@amadeusnagamine9056Lol the op obviously talking about the character story who hates her. Tell me a single fucking player who hates her

@messmass2573 10 ай бұрын

You two in the in comments obviously have never opened HoyoLab app 😂 If you sort the posts in "New", you cannot go more than 3 post without seeing some rando hateboner-filled post for Kafka in there 🤭

@kaeyabedilucsbrotherpls 10 ай бұрын

@@anzheilen5217 i dislike her as a character, but ig that's not close enough to hate

@tamaratoth8326 10 ай бұрын

@@anzheilen5217 I hate her

@Endlave 10 ай бұрын

People get excited about choices but forget that we had the choice to drink Dan Shu's poison and let her go, yet nothing happened afterwards...

@MNiTFTW 10 ай бұрын

Dan Shu got shafted by the plot. Her story was actually pretty interesting, the complaints were mostly about the weird pacing issue. But the second she was made into a sidequest rather than the main one, it was clear that she was being put on the backburner, since there's no way that the true head of a major enemy faction would be relegated to a sidequest.

@far_centrist 10 ай бұрын

@@MNiTFTWthere's a whole quest involving her. Then we had to wait for updates for the continuation. Next update we met her once and she immediately get killed.

@SmashBasher123 10 ай бұрын

@@far_centristWith basically no interaction or acknowledgement towards MC at that, was kinda disappointing

@zephyrprime8 10 ай бұрын

@@MNiTFTW The whole Xianzhou plot got butchered real hard

@electricant55 9 ай бұрын

@@zephyrprime8 this. jarilo story was so much better, after finishing xianzhou I was just like "wait, that's it?"

@holymoly8897 10 ай бұрын

You know he break his destiny, absolute truly maincharacter choice

@kaizermorde69 10 ай бұрын

The game gives you a right of choice, this is really nice, I like it. Genshin in this sense is a very direct

@jasonyang6150 10 ай бұрын

Now I'm kinda concerned for the future quests XD

@FireBlueZ 10 ай бұрын

I still prefer Genshin in this way because I always read Genshin story in a sense where I am reading a book. I can't change the lore and just read it. Same reason why I also don't play much of Sim like of fantasy game that you can change the future (just like Nier Automata) because it makes me paranoid on how my choice will change the story. At the end of the day, it's all depended on players on what kind of storytelling game they actually like.

@crystaluwu1012 10 ай бұрын

Nah, in Genshin you cant really quiet on finding your sister since that will be out of character and the motivation is legitimate, in Honkai Star Rail, their is no real motivation, you just go for a ride because the others said you should go... Thats why you can choose not to go, since the mc's interest and motivations hence the secret ending if you refuse to go, it is rather not fixed into one place where they can lose something important to them unlike Traveller who needs to save their sibling or risk losing their only kin.

@tacemiko3849 10 ай бұрын

@@FireBlueZthe difference is, that Genshin IS a game, not a book

@annanas9122 10 ай бұрын

@@tacemiko3849so what? It doesn't mean there can't be a linear plot.

@coast2coast-295 10 ай бұрын

MC: "Did Elio see this coming? Kafka: "I...uh....no?" MC: "Exactly. Stop trusting him blindly and make your own choices for a damn change." Kafka: 👁👄👁

@Khoi_1307 10 ай бұрын

Imagine if the quest just straight up ended without giving you the reward, that would be hilarious lmao

@Enn42360 10 ай бұрын

i would be really mad and won't be playing honkai star rail ever again lmao

@lunlun4189 10 ай бұрын

@@Enn42360one less prick in the game 😂

@silverrain530 8 ай бұрын

AKA if Aha was the quest designer lol

@r3digit 7 ай бұрын

You can actually skip the blind girl's quest if you choose to do the archon quest first before it. You won't get a reward

@teslapanda1412 7 ай бұрын

@@r3digitwait this is genshin right? If so i thought you meant jingliu as blind girl

@Kris-XIE 10 ай бұрын

man, this is broke my heart to hear kafka repeatedly convince us to help her. like behind all of her word there is a feeling like she want to say "please, i'm begging you. don't leave me" damn.

@victorjun2421 10 ай бұрын

I used to hate Kafka, but after this video i'm not sure anymore. She's still a manipulator and all but man, maybe deep down there is something genuine she wants to tell us.

@IIShattered_PerspectiveII 10 ай бұрын

@@victorjun2421 she's a prisoner of fate and destiny, however instead of freeing herself she chose to follow it's orders, by refusing her, she basically gets the idea that maybe she can free herself but at the same time she is afraid that maybe it's a useless endeavour and ultimately she meets her fate. kinda sad honestly, she felt like she is hopeless.

@Enn42360 10 ай бұрын

@@IIShattered_PerspectiveII i mean, they weren't called the destiny's slaves for no reason.

@wackjumpr 10 ай бұрын

@@victorjun2421lol no there isn't she just wanted to save blade and leave and that's what she's using you for

@elandilaurelius4849 10 ай бұрын

At what part did you get that feeling I am curious. Her vibe changes between "bored" and "uncaring"

@Deman_Dema 10 ай бұрын

I almost choose this. But the chance to get to beat up Yanqing again is too much to resist lol

@shelly8839 10 ай бұрын

finally someone who understands my hate for yanqing

@RigarAion 10 ай бұрын

Finally another chance for beating a low IQ kid

@Mokoeru 10 ай бұрын

@@shelly8839 What has the small lad done to you?

@ferorone 10 ай бұрын

@@Mokoeru50/50 maybe

@UrLocalHmar 10 ай бұрын

Now I’m definitely skipping

@ReEncored 10 ай бұрын

Funny thing: if you sey your game graphic to low quality the windows behind kafka will be closed and if you got the cutscene where it go inside the house to show blade face you will get a glimps at him sitting on a chair with nothing infront of him and the void

@marcocartaerainnocente7374 10 ай бұрын

Nigga I always play on lowest settings

@Lazer_Specter 10 ай бұрын

This is so cool that they actually allowed you to do this. Instead of forcing you into saying yes, if you really push for it, you can just quit which is something not many games do. The first thing that comes to mind is Super Paper Mario but refusing in that game leads to a game over. Kinda wish I did this too because even though it does seem to hurt Kafka and you miss out on a lot of lore, this does have a more interesting ending with defying "destiny" and maybe actually changing Kafka like she said you would should you actually do the quest.

@shadycactus6146 10 ай бұрын

lol i also immediately thought of spm

@zeth479 10 ай бұрын

Imagine ten years later, there's a secret ending that you can only get if you've chosen these options along the way...

@Lazer_Specter 10 ай бұрын

@@zeth479 that'd be insane but I'd love that attention to detail. It'd fit with the theme of the game too with the whole defying destiny thing.

@L16htW4rr10r 10 ай бұрын

That's actually what I thought would happen too. I thought they would force me to say yes. I'm so pleasantly surprised that was not the case

@Lazer_Specter 10 ай бұрын

@@shadycactus6146 ah. You are one of culture and exquisite taste.

@mengyue1472 10 ай бұрын

well rules are made to be broken.

@Flamelance_Accendo 10 ай бұрын

This is the true path.

@DeathkaiserG 10 ай бұрын

Kafka made Rules "Rules are made to be broken" Disobey the Rule Kafka gives ??? PROFIT

@arian2745 10 ай бұрын

I love the concept that being part of Elio's script is actually your choice. In the beginning of the game you were given a choice to either join the Express or stay to be Herta's lab rat. Your choice for dialogues could actually impact your journey.

@ortah2616 10 ай бұрын

We've made a choice so fight against your fate

@dyuthip1196 10 ай бұрын

Kafka would def be uncomfortable with this song

@donut1550 10 ай бұрын

But pain might come to the blade

@shirouthehero696 10 ай бұрын

@@donut1550and that pain will wake up the despondent crowds in this dormant world, somehow

@novapulses Ай бұрын

@@shirouthehero696represents firefly, no ? O:

@shirouthehero696 Ай бұрын

@@novapulses no clue, in all honest; I've not played Star Rail myself, just listened to some of the music

@Malloooow 10 ай бұрын

Vs. Genshin Impact : > I am leaving !! NOOO DON’T LEAVE I NEED YOUR HELP TRAVELERRRRRR And the quest still goes on

@annanas9122 10 ай бұрын

There's nothing wrong with that, imho. Just appeals to different people. I'm absolutely fine with the way Genshin is, I don't play it for abundance of choices with relevant consequences, anyway. I just want to learn more about the characters and the story. And anyway, no matter how many other chances to "leave" we'll get in the future I will never take them because imho it's the dullest way ever to play and you're just subjectibg yourself to missing out on more imho, experience, lore, character interactions and overall fun.

@Agnisuriya 10 ай бұрын

Because it's not infinite possibilities like hsr genshin both twins made the same choice and eventually reach the same destination it's neither destiny nor will but it's like reading a already written book if u gave enough attention there were lot of hints about both of the twins journey being alighned

@RePhantomz 10 ай бұрын

when broken illusion of choice can turn into bad writing if used too often without proper payout. It is better not to give a choices if none of it matter. HSR still had fake choices, but it also had the real one which i appreciated like playing pretend as sanctus medicus wont net you to a fight and even kearn more lore in bailu quest, letting dan shu leave wont forced you to fight the goon and now this.

@PrototypeBobaFett 10 ай бұрын

That's preferable for Genshin imo, don't think it'd work as well to have these kinds of permanent consequences to your choices

@jeffrenjr 10 ай бұрын

Followed by two essays of unskippable dialogue

@RedshaNoob 10 ай бұрын

I'll be honest, this is like one of the most coolest things ever. It's essentially changing the whole "Trailblazer helps everyone" to outright not be stuck into helping everyone.

@lenajohnson6179 7 ай бұрын

That last line of hers confirms that when she told me Ellio said that the trailblazer would 'change her' and she would change the trailblazer was her 'true' response to the question 'what am I to you?' It confirms a LOT about Kafka, how she feels about the protagonist (one of the few people she's actually just kind of blatantly 'nice' to) and makes me wonder if the Stelleron Hunters aren't a little bit... TRAPPED with Ellio? Like a fortune telling cult leader whose convinced his cogs that they have no free will so why even bother fighting whatever script he gives them... hence kafka's seeming excitement to see the trailblazer 'break' the script... of all the Stelleron Hunters Kafka is clearly the one the game is building up to most probably eventfully join the astral express crew (or else suffer the Himiko fate)

@xboxoneyes7734 2 ай бұрын

Or they might go whole Hog and do *Both*

@fireredgaming1 10 ай бұрын

I like how the game tries to “lock” your options, but it seems that they underestimated how persistent humans can be

@El_Leviatan 10 ай бұрын

When people stop simping: *TRUE FREE WILL*

@lunlun4189 10 ай бұрын

There’s a reason why Kafka warns you EIGHT TIMES that your choice is permanent. You’ll end up missing out on the quest. Devs don’t care if you choose to skip.

@Aynie10 10 ай бұрын

I sure wish this is how Adam and Eve refused the serpent

@user-5dr4wkc4b-ti-da3r-tsuj 10 ай бұрын

nah if they did the world would have been a better place

@adriantepes4355 10 ай бұрын

You'd have been a zombie if they did

@deathwingthedestroyer3632 10 ай бұрын

@@adriantepes4355 I’d rather have that than knowing how fucked up people can be

@adriantepes4355 10 ай бұрын

@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 I'm sorry that you met the worst of humankind and have never come across the light of happiness, young man

@deathwingthedestroyer3632 10 ай бұрын

@@adriantepes4355 Well I wouldn’t say my entire life wasn’t that bad. I just hate how that in this world, people can do the most abhorrent things and basically get away with it while the victims cry and scream in agony within their graves.

@Weebdotexe 10 ай бұрын

the biggest fear is the fear of the unknown, and by Ellio telling Kafka an exhaustive list of everything, what is there to be unknown? MC went against the list and against the grain, maybe, no wonder we strike her curiosity so much, i'm hoping that kafka will still have side quests given to the player even when they make this choice.

@Elstelle 10 ай бұрын

As long as we also have an option to turn her down. For me personally, her character is irritating to say the least.

@Weebdotexe 10 ай бұрын

@@Elstelle u can just not fo them

@Elstelle 10 ай бұрын

@@Weebdotexe we need a skip button for this to be an option.

@GokaikillerTobi 10 ай бұрын

@@Elstellethank you glad I'm not the only one

@Elpresidente98 10 ай бұрын

I'm actually really surprised by the level of choice Honkai Star Rail actually gives the player. When I started playing, I took it as a linear story and didn't care much about the choices. Until I ran straight into a choice I couldn't go back from and I was just staring at the game like "Huh? The choices actually changed the outcome of the quest?" Definitely a plus for this game.

@ayyayayayayayyayyyayyyayayyaya 5 ай бұрын

makes me feel awful for speeding through some of the game on auto while doing work. idek what i clicked :(

@vincentliou3746 10 ай бұрын

Meanwhile Genshin > Whatever I say in these blocks or whatever I choose ... > ... the story always go one way.

@zuazz 10 ай бұрын

Every time they clicked the “no” and “leaving” options my heart shattered…

@Kiorka 10 ай бұрын

As THE Kafka hater this video put a smile on my face.

@fishfood8711 10 ай бұрын

she’s just tryna manipulate you anyway

@MinzyDaisy 10 ай бұрын

I salute you for having the courage to do this 🤣👏 in Genshin impact every line you chose to say leads to the same outcome eventually but since things are different in HSR I refused Kafka's request twice and when she said there was no turning back I knew she meant that and the story quest may really end there, so I accepted her offer in the end 🤣

@kyero8724 10 ай бұрын

this is literally a 0 consequence fake path it changes literally nothing just ends it sooner.

@MinzyDaisy 10 ай бұрын

@@kyero8724 it changes nothing ! We don't get to play truth or lies with her how's that nothing xD and she reveals some interesting infos 🤩

@fantalone666 10 ай бұрын

@@kyero8724 The consequence is that you will not experience the quest. Kafka clearly stated the consequences in her dialogue. You are probably just being salty; so you're not thinking straight.

@viennasavage9110 10 ай бұрын

@@fantalone666 Thats not a consequence lol, you can still just google the quest and watch a video on it. You're pretending that the situation is way more complex than it actually is. I think you're the one who isn't thinking.

@fantalone666 10 ай бұрын

@@viennasavage9110 How am I pretending that the situation is more complex than it is? I see it for what it truly is; you have a choice, either you can stay or you can leave. If you choose to leave, you can never experience that part of story. I think that's a consequence of its own. You can feel free to reply with a reason why it isn't a consequence though. Edit: To add onto the 'you can just watch a video lol'... What other consequences exist that cannot be undone by simply loading back a save, starting a new game, or watching a youtube video?

@BellaK423 10 ай бұрын

Me that likes morally grey characters and finds Kafka incredibly interesting. I couldn’t of ever tried to skip a quest like this cause more lore. Learning she was a devil hunter (that aligns her to be closer with Makima) and her reasoning for her being around you is because Elio told her that being around you is going to change her significantly is so interesting.

@user-xd8kj1hj2o 10 ай бұрын

That gasp in "representing the consequences" part in her first line is just like the actress got tired speaking with this "bark for me, simp" voice

@AzureRoxe 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the last time she speaks, she suddenly speaks normally too.

@lunlun4189 10 ай бұрын

Idgi

@Vanq17 10 ай бұрын

"I dislike you." "In that case, will you stay here? For me?" wat??? Lady, we just established we dont like you, read the room.

@acherthecat8316 10 ай бұрын

one of the things i really like with this game is that our choices actually matter and could lead to a different scenario (though there are cases where it leads to the same scenario). unlike certain game where no matter which dialogue i picked i'm stuck to do whatever the hell paimon told me to.

@Chestyfriend 10 ай бұрын

This only happened once so far...

@sensha5470 10 ай бұрын

@@Chestyfriendtwice.

@Chestyfriend 10 ай бұрын

@@sensha5470 What other one? If you mean the joke ending, that has no permanent consequences.

@End3ren3rgy 10 ай бұрын

achievement unlocked: became self aware

@sanandn.r7889 10 ай бұрын

Really😊

@chaicinnamon8989 10 ай бұрын

I did this for 2 reasons, 1 : my curiosity got the better of me 2 : i dont like Kafka and wanted to be as far away from her as possibleat all times

@_Yozora_ 10 ай бұрын

"Reach the end of the story in your own way..."

@vincentlau6325 9 ай бұрын

I guess this puts into perspective that she might've been using her powers to dominate you this entire time and you need some serious willpower to actually leave without Kafka letting you lol This is why the acheivement is called true freedom

@Verdant_Weru 10 ай бұрын

*Kafka explains and stalls the trail blazer so they won't leave and help her. "No"

@blackoutrhino 10 ай бұрын

You might be able to report Kafka to the General because I was doing Yukons’s quest at the time and was at the part you speak with him. Right before I got to the travel point I got dialogue saying I should probably see what Kafka needs first. Idk but it might be something

@Millicente 10 ай бұрын

Just for putting Kafka through this i hope everyone who chooses this option gets ommited from all future steps of her companion quest :D

@malihazarinfaizasonali 10 ай бұрын

I wonder whether this will affect Blade's companion quest . Players who refused to help Kafka might have to fight mara-struck Blade in a boss battle. And players who helped Kafka , just need to fight some cloud nights and help Blade meet the person about whom he mentioned in the end.

@txrnip 10 ай бұрын

@@malihazarinfaizasonaliim pretty sure she just fixes up Blade without us if we refuse though.. only real difference is that you miss out on lore.

@iandakariann 10 ай бұрын

@@malihazarinfaizasonali nah. When it comes to branching stories, the more effects that change the more exponential the workload. I mean if they are up for it then I'm up for Kafka bringing it up a year later and Blade holding a grudge. But it's understandable if it's kept to this moment.

@evergreen7260 10 ай бұрын

you get all the rewards and i hate kafka SO HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

@SetsunaBlueRose 10 ай бұрын

@@evergreen7260 wow, you must be the special cookie

@farizfarizi7376 10 ай бұрын

the choices may not change the main story (and i dont think theres anything hoyo can do about it) but if there will be kafka's companion quest part 2 (or even blade and SW), i hope we get rewarded based on what we choose in this quest

@Doorkey2 10 ай бұрын

Wanna know what’s crazy? She never once says please.

@yourwueen443 10 ай бұрын

Because she tried to manipulate the trailblaze everytime ofcourse in a different way She tried putting preasure on us kept saying that there is no turning back , about how destiny changes and etc 😂

@signer0001 10 ай бұрын

No magic word = no help. I don't make the rules Kafka

@YukiColburn 10 ай бұрын

@@yourwueen443 There's a difference between manipulating and pressuring, is all I'll say

@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee 10 ай бұрын

I guess she isn't desperate

@yourwueen443 10 ай бұрын

@@YukiColburn preasure us in order to change our mindset just to do what she wants its a form of manipulation also the whole quest was in her advantage since she knew if we were telling the truth or not and we do not know wich one is the lie and wich isnt (in the game we can inform ourself with other ppl choices or leaks but thats pt 2) everthing is in her advantage Are you sure this doesn't sounds odd to you? Its kind of cleary manipulation Forgot to add she insisted 8 TIMES in a row if we are sure on the choice we make and that theres no turning back and that we wont be involved in the future

@denisevlogiev 10 ай бұрын

I was so happy when I played it and saw I can walk away cuz I really hate Kafka , I just wanted the rewards so getting them for free and leaving her was so satisfying.

@xiraishii 2 ай бұрын

I FOUGHT SOMEONE JUST FOR THIS DUDE TO REFUSE 8 TIMES AND GET THE REWARDS 😭😭

@radhiansyahnovalinorambe1893 10 ай бұрын

Everyone have their own desire leading to their ultimate

@dennissrin6600 10 ай бұрын

Kafka:Okay...Goobye uhhh 😮‍💨 😂

@Aarkwrite 10 ай бұрын

I thought it was going to be an ending like refusing to go on the Astral Express with a credits roll but you’ll be able to change your mind and do over. But since it ends the quest I guess I won’t do it this way lol

@Shadow_Symphony 10 ай бұрын

Great now I’m curious to see what her dialogue would be if we came back right before leaving-

@Karzakus 10 ай бұрын

that's honestly so cool that they let you do this

@user-ft9ul5ul5v 10 ай бұрын

Can we just appreciate the clever player nickname!? :D

@MrBud85 10 ай бұрын

What was it

@methatswho6299 10 ай бұрын

@@MrBud85Uhhh

@MrBud85 10 ай бұрын

@@methatswho6299 tell me

@diabetes897 10 ай бұрын

i actually didnt notice it until the end. kept wondering why the dialogue had uhh there but kafka wasn't saying it out

@whimmi 10 ай бұрын

i did this by accident too and Kafka actually sends you a text the next day thanking you for rejecting the script and showing her that destiny can be change somehow

@carolineranieri 10 ай бұрын

fr?

@whimmi 10 ай бұрын

@@carolineranieri Here it goes: Anonymous Whimmi, I'm Kafka Anonymous Just FYI, it's been a journey, but l'm unharmed Anonymous Does free will exist? I can't say for sure, but you've made your own choice, transforming a nascent possibility into reality. Anonymous This is wonderful to you and I, two people both enslaved by fate And then it says the recipient is offline.

@carolineranieri 10 ай бұрын

@@whimmi oooh thank you!!!

@galileodirectio 5 ай бұрын

@@whimmiwont let me read your comment. youtubr is broken and.I hate it here :( the anticipation on what she said in the text is killing me

@hackerme679 10 ай бұрын

People only choose this option is either you really hate Kafka or you're speedrunning this game or you have 2nd account

@nosneponsnek 10 ай бұрын

Well, if you really hate Kafka, you would never see this scene because you would never indulge her request to come in the first place. I'm assuming this is from her companion mission given that I don't recognize it.

@hackerme679 10 ай бұрын

@@nosneponsnek You know someone can hate Kafka but want to collect the jades just to pull. That's why I assume like that

@nosneponsnek 10 ай бұрын

@@hackerme679 Which is why I say those who REALLY hate Kafka wouldn't see it. But those who just normally hate her would.

@user-vz1nt1uu8c 4 ай бұрын

I did it of my own free will as soon as I was given the chance. I just don’t want to have any more contact with this manipulator. I don't want to do shit for her. and I did this on the main account and do not intend to change my choice.

@ifuckinghatekafka 2 ай бұрын

First choice is correct

@Flamelance_Accendo 10 ай бұрын

_You forgot to go back and look at the note she left._

@hazewert8212 10 ай бұрын

what????

@Flamelance_Accendo 10 ай бұрын

I cant seem to post links but, it basically says in a hastily written letter that Kafka approved of what the MC was doing in rejecting her and showing that they aren't bound by Fate and that she likes the MC for doing this.@@hazewert8212

@vildefort7664 10 ай бұрын

@@hazewert8212 if you move to another map, and going back here, kafka and blade will leave the place, and kafka leave a note for the trailblazer there

@yayangchand 10 ай бұрын

@@vildefort7664 what's the note about ?

@signer0001 10 ай бұрын

@@yayangchand She actually proud of u because you have true free will instead of being Fate's Slave and hopes you won't let anyone tell you what to do.

@arjunthakur6477 10 ай бұрын

Damn so its really possible to not help her? But i dont think it will have any future changes though.

@KkA0712 10 ай бұрын

Actually it should, by refusing to help her, the cloud knights or yanqing would have caught her and took her to the prison.

@arjunthakur6477 10 ай бұрын

@@KkA0712 we will see that In future. But it seems highly unlikely

@joaomarcoscosta4647 10 ай бұрын

@@arjunthakur6477 Yeah, they almost centainly manage to make it out on their own. There is a small possibility of adding small changes in dialogue depending on your choice, though.

@helioxghost 10 ай бұрын

According to ellio's script Kafka will take blade and leave, no matter what we do, so yea it doesn't really matter.

@arjunthakur6477 10 ай бұрын

@@helioxghost so if she knew she will be safe then why did she even message the MC If we chose to dip her

@tofukiyo 10 ай бұрын

she played the blade card she knows im a simp oh no

@Dodalalal91 9 ай бұрын

thank you for this video you made.

@Artodako 10 ай бұрын

Star rail dialogue is so fucking good , and some of the easter eggs actually got me even more hooked in the game fr

@ZeroCrits 10 ай бұрын

I did this accidentally and got a bit confused for a moment, I thought it was a joke like the secret ending of this game where you can restart but then the companion mission is completed and I got an achievement, imagine tho writing a story only for the player to skip ahead everything by refusing to elaborate 😭 (I kind of regret it cause now I can't experience the story 😂)

@lunlun4189 10 ай бұрын

Devs don’t care if you skip the story. You’re the one missing out (which is why Kafka warns you EIGHT TIMES that your choice will be permanent)

@JansanKorbril 6 ай бұрын

I was ready to keep saying "No" until the game forced me to say "Yes" and I would have been fine with it, but it was a treat for me to prove to her that their team's seer and soothsayer is fallible and fate is not absolute. I don't know whether I was more annoyed or begrudgingly impressed that she seemed to approve of that decision, even though it objectively made things tougher for her. This game has some really good writing, character development, and general game design in it, really enjoying it.

@brizzleyoh 3 ай бұрын

I’m assuming this just locks you out of future quests you’d have with Kafka…

@pudung9862 10 ай бұрын

Absolute giga chad energy

@hurtfashion8699 10 ай бұрын

So let me get this clear… I could’ve quickly gotten those rewards and not have to wait…

@AGuy0nInternet. 10 ай бұрын

the real rewards is beating yanqing along the way

@DanielGomes-hz4hu 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad that option exists, I don't like Kafka and I don't feel like doing his mission lol

@galileodirectio 5 ай бұрын

I love this. I woukd never miss on any lore si i would never make these kinds of choices, but I sure love to see they exist

@friky6494 10 ай бұрын

This is the reason why i pay attention to hsr quests but watch videos of KZfaq while doing Genshin impact quests

@nuquersparda3739 10 ай бұрын

I love how this just feels like a DnD DM trying to make the party follow the story

@raikossi 6 ай бұрын

So....i could have just...skiped the...task.............AHHHHHH

@FreakyBob007 10 ай бұрын

So just by saying "nuh uh" i could have avoided nearly getting bushwhacked by a child?

@jerson.romantico.1521 10 ай бұрын

MC : I may be a monster, but I'm not your monster anymore 😷

@evergreen7260 10 ай бұрын

It's crazy that there is not only a shortcut, but you literally get all the rewards. I am curious about the story but i also hate what kafka and the others do so if it has any later story significance i want them to know that i defied kafka and didnt help her

@ortah2616 10 ай бұрын

What they do is ultimately to save the entire universe, even if the Stellaron Hunters other than Elio have their own motivations like Kafka's deal made with Elio to keep the Trailblazer safe with their future telling powers, I'd say they're justified in their actions. I believe that's why Kafka doesn't want the Trailblazer to leave, leaving ends up with Trailblazer walking a unsafe undetermined path

@FD-wl7xq 10 ай бұрын

@@ortah2616in the nee trailer the stelaron hunters killed trillions maybe sextillions of civilians.If that’s the trade of then i need an explanation on this future

@Chancelot 10 ай бұрын

@@FD-wl7xqtheyre trying to go against destiny by manipulating it into another The destiny that theyre trying to fight being the one where nanook and his minions successfully destroy the entire universe But i personally think that their methods are definitely not it

@andreismith9696 10 ай бұрын

this is gacha, your choice here literally will not affect anything in the future

@methatswho6299 10 ай бұрын

@@andreismith9696considering you can end the game early by staying on the space station, I don't think that's the case here

@ciellyest 10 ай бұрын

I was going to do this but I felt bad saying it 8 times in a row Now I got karma and yanqing was destroying me, I literally had to pull out Preservation MC and let her absorb all the damage while I force kill yanqing without destroying the swords 💀💀💀

@aidszamuril4032 10 ай бұрын

everyone in my team got beat, sampo was literally hanging by a thread when i finished yanqing

@ciellyest 10 ай бұрын

First time I felt so hopeless in star rail I thought there was no way for me to beat him 💀

@SolaireOfToast 10 ай бұрын

@@aidszamuril4032are you playing lvl 20 team 😂😂

@anwarshadaad1553 10 ай бұрын

@@SolaireOfToastikr i thought yanqing is just a joke at this point

@gachagaming495 10 ай бұрын

I’m having trouble defeating yanqing as well

@Mr.Lee2345 10 ай бұрын

Lol I love how you could just nope tf out

@blushyeggie1326 10 ай бұрын

SO I DIDN'T NEED TO FIGHT THAT LITTLE BLONDE KIDDO THAT I COULD NOT DEFEAT, I STILL CANT DEFEAT HIM AND IM STUCK, CAN I LIKE RESET THE MISSION??????????????

@DacianSolaris 10 ай бұрын

I accepted to help her and... SPOILER ALERT... she then proceeded to play a game kind of similar to truth or dare, but answering 2 questions, one with a lie and another one with a truth, you could decide which one is the lie and which one is the truth. The bad news is... she's been always manipulating us, even in the previous incarnation of the MC, I discovered that because I tricked her into answering one question with only the truth, so all the previous things she said about her and the MC were by default a lie, the next time I will be rejecting her and recovering the dignity of my MC hahahaha

@blob2335 10 ай бұрын

Kafka has a soothing voice.

@noes1153 10 ай бұрын

watching this pains me but it's your choice in which I cannot interfere

@thankiii5905 10 ай бұрын

i could never... thanks for showing us! but i am down bad simp for her

@StarryxBu77erfly 10 ай бұрын

Goddamit if i knew i could avoid fighting yanqing i would choose this path 😭😭 cuz i struggling beat HIM AAAAA

@S1r_Cheese 10 ай бұрын

I believe this gonna bite back in future story

@saturnoxkazuki4972 10 ай бұрын

i don't hate Kafka, but I thought helping someone with a $10 billion bounty on his head could get me into troubl,e and I have no doubt that she can take care of herself.

@user-ft9ul5ul5v 10 ай бұрын

I firstly accepted the coordinates, then I tried to sell her to Xianzhou but the game stopped me from entering the General's palace. Then I went to her and refused her invitation directly.

@thederp9309 10 ай бұрын

Yeah. She’s kind of in a terrorist group.

@lol-iy7wv 10 ай бұрын

that's actually a pretty good way of looking at it, but I'd burn Xianzhou to the ground for her with mc's lance if I have to, so to each their own I guess.

@lunlun4189 10 ай бұрын

Sissy 😂