The day you stop learning is the day you need to find a new career. Or maybe retire and find a new hobby to learn. No developer I've ever met is happy when they're not learning *something*.

This is very encouraging to read as I always feel that I am not good enough even though I keep learning constantly.

I'll never forget one of my professors.... The good news, and the bad news: You'll always be learning something. You must be someone who likes to do rubiks cubes for the majority of their days.

Are you a millionaire, yet? That is my goal, btw, to be a millionaire in the next 5 years. I have been doing this for 6 years now.

youre always learning, in any field really.

CS != Programming. CS is the study of computing and that's mostly theoretical that's why it's usually run from the Math Department

@@rombios3056 Mine was in the science department, but yes exactly. It's primarily theory rather than practical software engineering knowledge, which is why even people with degrees will struggle a little out in the real world at first.

Thanks! That's so interesting I always assumed that CS degrees would teach these things

@@Bukola1 Yeah, I'm thinking some schools might have "software engineering" specific degrees as of late, but generally "CS" degrees are very much on the theory side. Like they're training you to be a researcher rather than an engineer. I had maybe 4 classes in total that were actually relevant to on the job responsibilities. Everything else in my 4 years was just theory or filler. The most prominent example is how I somehow ended up taking 3 geology classes due to my school's requirements 😆

@@Bukola1 thank you so much for your sharing. Have a blessed day. Enjoy your day. God bless you. Take care.. From john

Was coming to say the same. I am now a manager but still have to learn new things. As a manager I really only have to learn it high level, but I keep myself hands on as much as possible because I like to remain competent in what I'm talking about.

How can one get programming jobs? We don't have much programming opportunities here.

Great description. I know a lot of developers followed a similar path. It is the years of experience of being a nerd as you said. I remember a developer that was into the demoscene and later became a great programmer.

Two years? That is awful!!!!

@@micjakes1 harsh lol but true. 2 years clearly a slow learner no disrespect but that’s just long asf

@@lavarball7538 it takes 2 years to get a degree stupiddd

@@ArtIsDrawing actually takes 3 you stupeeeed.

Her voice is wild. She can just talk for a living.

Nope. It makes her videos that much more awesome. She seems so real, down to earth

Hey! CONGRATS to you! I'm studying web development now, but I really want to get into UX/more design-based work. I've been trying to find good courses for UX but haven't come across any. What is IDF? Any other recommendations?

Hi there, did you have any design experience before this? Thanks !

@@saltybaelv No I didn't. I had some UX writing experience, and I read a ton of medium articles, began looking at youtube videos and a company took a chance on me!

@@i-spy-ty Did you build/need a portfolio before interviewing?

congratz

This comment section really is so helpful. The imposter syndrome when trying to break into tech is a real, real thing!

You see that often on channels of KZfaqrs who claim that they are self tought developers but all they do is talking about motivation, how they got a job in 3 months and all of these channels have one thing in common: You won´t see these guys write a single line of code.

I'll be honest the Women In Code movement with bootcamps hasnt helped the 3 month motive at all over the past couple of years. 3 months is steep and takes quite a bit of dedication no matter the area of programming. Well except AI and ML for some reason companies have this idea that you HAVE to have a freakin masters/PHD to run models, so perplexing.

@@codingcrashkurse6429 Chris Sean does. I am not so sure of the others, but yes, he actually does write code.

@Derek Hawkins what do you recommend for someone who has no background in computer science. I am interested in Software developer but not sure what first books or subject I should start with

No they’re not. Lol. Just because one person couldn’t do it doesn’t mean other people can’t. Some people naturally learn math quicker than others. Other people naturally learn coding quicker. People are just convinced that coding is voodoo. That’s not the fault of the people who HAVE done these things in 3 months. I literally teach people how to code and I’ve helped them get jobs within 3 months... not EVERYBODY (like everybody likes to think), but a STRONG amount of people I’ve taught have found employment within 3 months. The only difference is that people don’t have a clue what they NEED to know. Typing in “How to code” just simply doesn’t cut it. And that’s what most people do if they have no experience.

We (Nigeria) miss you. Lol Getting programming jobs here is hard. 😂

Great comment!

@@Isabelle-bs5tg thanks Isabelle 😏 fancy seeing you here

all you guys story calms me down a bit. i been stressed with python just for the last 2 weeks trying to memorize. starting from scratch.

@@theish9 stop trying to memorize you clown. Read, understand, then build a project. Google what you forget. You're silly as hell bro

@@theish9 memorization can come with practice/experience. It's so ridiculously inefficient to be trying to rote memorize

@Allison Edwards I could have not too. And so that's what I chose

And as a matter of fact @Caleb, total bs you are. It does not take 2 fkn years. You are just kidding yourself. You didn't drop out to teach yourself. You dropped out to go on and jerk around and kid yourself without having to be held responsible and accountable like school would've made you. Quit your bs

ive been thinking about going a network engineering route, whats it like, i never have the chance to ask people who actually work as a network engineer, i plan on going into helpdesk and work from there.

It’s YOUR journey Elzara, take your time and pace yourself remembering to reach out to any number of folks who are willing to help. Realism and a personal sense of perspective are important as there’s a bit of misinformation and a lot of ego in the game you’ll come across if your so lucky 😊 Congrats for having the courage to perform a career change and the very best to you along the way 👍 My aunt went from midwifery to Law at 41... it was an amazingly demanding transition for her over a number of years but fast forward 11 years she’s a high flying Capital Markets lawyer at a massive firm and is still able to help anyone managing to go into labour on her morning metro commute 😊

@@b1ueocean thank you for taking time to write such an encouraging response. 🙏❤️

hey, I am just beginning my degree and wanted to learn few things/skills which I can begin from now, any tips? @ Gabrielė

@@Anne-rc3og You have a code every day, and spend time learning concepts.

Yup. Domain knowledge can really set you apart.

@athesit humanist i have a undergrad degree I math, I’ve seen people do it with just and associates but it is much more difficult because of the competition. Almost impossible

How about creating a project to stand as your resume then freelance

@shabby arp biggest problem will be competition since degrees are an easy way to show you have put the time in. Definitely recommend a portfolio with real - world projects

Some people have done it though

my brother did haha. paid for an 8 wk javascript course and got a job at the same company afterwards as the person who ran the course had worked for previously. think he was just told exactly what to expect at interview.

@@hodsh1 makes sense

Yeah, Bragging about your "status" like that is the most asshole thing to do ever.

Peen slap me bro

What kind of code did you use for the job?

@Aisha M KZfaq

@@bulbacode4380 which proves do you really need school

@@waynegore176 I don’t think anyone needs school. But maybe I’m an anomaly idk

@@bulbacode4380 you’re not an anomaly it’s just that Software Engineering became a formal industry after the desktop computing revolution and rise of business/enterprise software. In the 80s and 90s when a lot of hobbyists were into games MANY of the top contributors piled in from their bedrooms while still in their teens. The old Demo scene where truly incredible skills would be showcased was largely driven by self taught hobbyists with truly ridiculous skills honed over hours and hours and hours of learning and experimenting. Understanding the underlying hardware, how to get the machine go faster, go louder, go brighter. Learning math to produce complex geometry and effects in graphics and audio. It was difficult to get access to a Mainframe machine or a proper Unix Workstation so we played about with 8-bit machines like the Commodores, Spectrums, Amstrads, Atari’s, BBCs, etc and then eventually PCs. I was building 3D engines in C and Assembler at 15/16 in the early 90s using library books and bootleg compilers/assemblers 😋 Once I said I’d like to work for a proper company doing “business software” at 18 I was told to get a degree. It really would have made more sense taking my C skills and getting to grips with the Windows C API, I has already started out on C++ and OOP the year before uni anyways. I didn’t know any industry people, there wasn’t any social media or KZfaq - you sought of trusted what the olders said and got on with it. It’s a world of conventions, exceptions and luck. We just have to figure things out. If you feel like an anomaly chances are you’re just one of the pioneers. After COVID with many institutions turning to remote learning during the worst times, with lots of courses appearing online, individual courses and entire curriculums, we might yet see some movement to where CS learning becomes a remote affair allowing folks the flexibility to work, learn, etc while picking up skills. We’ll soon see I guess.

Keep going, you can do it!

Washington DC, where can one get volunteer work to get a better perspective on coding?

where are you doing your ms? did u have to take prerequisite bachelor classes before taking master classes?

@@matthewmcneil216 BU MET. I had to take a few prerequisites because I didn’t have a background in coding. But not everyone has to take prereqs to be admitted into the program.

@@laluta9 Nice! How is your program going? And I’m at BU MET.

Wow that's amazing!! Congrats on your job offer!!

Wow that's serious. Thanks for sharing your story so people can really understand just how hard it is out there to land a job/career in coding.

App Academy ?

@@robdog114 Ironhack

What type of companies are more likely to hire boot camp graduates?

@@brecaldwell2993 Startups, freelance/contract jobs, industries like mobile/web or game dev where quick & dirty often supercedes slow & good - basically places where they put a premium on hiring someone cheap, quickly. Large/enterprise companies, with full-time staff positions can generally afford (in time & money) to be more competitive.

@Derek Hawkins I have yet to meet a single person who has become a full stack dev in 3 months without any previous coding experience. Unrealistic doesn't mean impossible maybe a genius could do it, becoming a full stack dev requires months and month of experience and not only in your own "Hello World" projects, I'm talking about real open source or private projects. I do agree with you that there's no cookie-cutter template for learning how to code but bootcamps definitely help to get started.

Absolutely