theraposo4 It's way below average for most.

I got into UC Berkeley, UCLA and USC this year with a 1890!!! Great extracurriculars though

Im attending USC :) FIght ON!

Congratz and good luck! All really competitive schools.

theraposo4 See you in the fall :) fight on!

they decided that it captured some anti-affirmative action zeitgeist and that it'd be more compelling if that sentiment came from a kid. not surprising as the wsj has long been a bastion of whiteness. that being said you're right, we should still remember she's a kid....it's the media's fault for blowing this out of proportion

ubermensch826 lol this idiotic post

Exactly. I think she had this assumption that if she had the "basic" qualifications she should be a shoo-in for the ivy league college she wants. There are kids who have 5.0 GPA, SAT scores are 24-2500 and the top ivy league schools WANTED THEM, they were not scrounging around like some sniveling brat complaining as to what else they needed to be accepted but you are getting your 15 minutes just because you couldn't get what you thought should be granted to you. It maybe was your "I'm entitled" attitude that made them see you're not fit for their school. She look and speak like she's a 20 something year old, not a teenager.

TheWrongTone112 because they are an intelligent and logical human being

S J P nice try, girl from video

That moment when white privilege didn't work out on college admissions LMAO.

she's just saying that black students have a higher likely hood of getting into ivy league colleges, it's actually hardest for Asian students.

Nobody asked you you beetle headed bitch

@@EzioBellic2KOOL Chill fam

@@perryforsyth3421 True omg I hate racial bias

ChapterSee It's not a sure way to get in. Your daughter clearly didn't stand out enough.

+Alatar As an admit to some very selective schools, I think you're grossly mistaken. There are a lot of points she made that really stood out to me as true. College admission isn't black and white, but if I were her I'd feel cheated too.

Hunter Williams To you? You're not the admissions committee, do you see thousands of other people's applications as well to make sure your daughter stands out?

+Alatar Do you know how difficult it is to be a Senate Page? Smh... wasting my time. This girl is did plenty to get into an Ivy League. It's unfortunate not one took her. Michigan is lucky to have a writer of her caliber.

Hunter Williams What else did she do relating to writing? You know lots of kids apply that have excellent writing skills and rewards...they need more in writing than just that.

However, she was rejected, thus prompting her to write the satire.

Otaku Madness Indeed but she did have to write some sort of essay for those schools and she could have added "satire" to those essays.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I'm interpreting your comment is that you are trying to say that she should have written a satirical essay rather than a serious one, to which I would remind you that when you write your college application essays, it's better to err on the side of caution and write a serious one. What if, supposing she did write a satirical essay, that the admissions people read it and failed to recognize it as satire (as many people did with her Op-ed column), therefore assuming that she was out-and-out making fun of them? If it's vernacular, it's easily recognizable as satire, since you can use different tones of voice to indicate so, but if it's writing, the reader might have a harder time recognizing it for what it is unless you state your intentions clearly. In order to pull something like that off, I think she probably might have had to write a disclaimer of sorts at the beginning so the admissions people wouldn't be mistaken. Better to write a serious one and save the satire for other times.

Otaku Madness No what I am saying is she most likely put that "satire" in her essay and that's why the colleges rejected her cause either, A: The didn't catch the satire and thought she was being a bitch or B: They caught the satire and were not amused with it.

And yet it's all speculation. I could say that she didn't put any sort of satire in her college essay, that she took it very seriously and wrote the best essay she could, and yet both of these speculations would be unprovable unless she actually reveals what she wrote for her essay. But I do agree with her; the college application process is a joke and totally biased.

she was trying to joke, a lot of people saw it as her being extremely whiny but she was speaking up for a ton of people in a satire, comedic way.

Sounds like hillary doesnt it

chello Yeah, she sounds entitled and wants to blame a whole race for her not entering as if she is better then everyone else.

It’s usually this way w people who focus on this things n this is all they have.small circle w barely any friends n high grades n their parents pushing them n they have no social life

There are a lot of people who do almost everything in their hands to get in

Billy Anthony wow those are some really good scores

#respect

There’s no way u did that and didn’t at least get wait listed

Uh no ya didn’t lol

No, I saw a guy in the internet who had a little bit less than you and got excepted to EVERY Ivy league School. Not possible.

like ivy league schools are very difficult to get into. maybe you should've worked harder

Sham k she got a 4.5 GPA -.-

Jonathan Gooby gpa is a major part of what they look at but absolutely not the ONLY part.

GPA is tough to compare. She might have a 4.5 weighted, however, unweighted it may be 3.7.... which suddenly doesn't look so hot.

I have no doubt that she got rejected because of her interviews. Just from seeing this one, her pompous aura stunk up my whole living room. These days, elite colleges look for more quirk, and less stereotype. I mean, someone got into Yale by writing an essay about PIZZA. They have THOUSANDS of other people applying. If you're only worried about your numbers, and saying what you THINK they want to hear, in your essay and interview, then you're just gonna be lumped in with all the other basics. Tough luck. No one to blame, but yourself (Suzy), if you're that adamant about blaming somebody.

So you're telling me you wouldn't be pissed if you dedicated your entire high school career studying useless and rather uninteresting subjects (such as Math) and got rejected? Why do we even learn Math anyways? That shit is so annoying and encourages no originality or creativity. Oh yeah, and the SAT and AP Literature exams are utter bullshit. The questions seem to ask for a "proper" opinion rather than a factual answer...and then times you.

***** I don't know, he kinda has a point. I mean, the math we learn is kind of useless, especially if the career of your choice doesn't involve math. I would like to become a historian, but would I have to do slope intercept form or quadratic equations for it? Now I do think it is setting people up who do want to take up a field involving math, like writing physics engines for games or a math teacher, but for people who don't, it is kinda useless. Except maybe adding subtracting, multiplying and dividing. You do need those for receiving/getting change, leaving tips, taxes, counting the distance between time periods, etc.

Hm...I really hope you're not implying the humanities are useless.

Michelle Joy Carbajal Are you talking to me? Where do you get the impression that I'm implying the humanities are useless? I'd much rather learn the culture of people to understand them then learn something I'll use bare minimum for in life.

***** Although, I am an incoming computer science major I would say that the humanities are important. There needs to be a balance in all aspects and levels of life. By focusing on the humanities people learn how to connect with people effectively. If everyone focused on theory, or if everyone focused on STEM society would essentially fail in some way. Money is not everything and art may not always pay the bills. Somehow these lessons should be interconnected in all classrooms. Whatever... I am just blabbering about some utopian society in my mind

7 years and nobody replied hello

Lmao

Mad cuz bad

yeah exactly. her idiocy and entitlement makes it hard to ACTUALLY criticize the ridiculous college practices

Yeah, as soon as the college admissions officer realizes that the applicant brags/is cocky about their intelligence levels and isn't' modest about their grades they immediately look the other way. The Ivy Leagues want a kid who can benefit them. The only reason I am a bit shocked is that she was part of that Senate program which, I have heard, is highly selective and that alone could have been a contributing factor into her getting accepted.

It's great she was a Senate page but she might have been given the job because of connections or pay offs and not on merit so they need to see more of her character.

They can sniff out a whiny brat from a mile away? Well if you've spent enough time at some of these ivy leagues you would realize they need a better sense of smell.

well you dont know how hard she has worked. stop calling her a brat. she has a bright future either ways.

513TangoKiller s

With an intelligence and sarcastic attitude like that she don’t need college. 😁

@@rayva1 Agreed, screw Harvard... This girl is amazing.

right!,

You missed the entire point of her gripe. She (among many others) is concerned that these elite schools are overvaluing characteristics that students cannot control…

i dont get it

She's just upset

she did suck it up, you idiot. with irony and humour. even if i didn't share her opinion, i'd like the way she expressed herself. the american education system is a load of crap. it doesn't select for abilities but money and other random 'features'. why don't you take a look at, say, the swiss model? america sucks.

Here0s0Johnny And I insulted you how? Right off the bat you go calling names. Thanks for making judging your character so simple, and thanks for sharing!

Here0s0Johnny There's no irony and no humour in what she wrote or in her interview. It's one long pity-fest of an essay that stereotypes the people that do get accepted. Her opinion mainly involves people of color as the reason for her failure: she didn't get accepted because either she wasn't a person of color or didn't use the "misfortunes" of a child in Africa. You want a good example of irony? Here she is complaining about not getting in because she doesn't bring diversity and that she doesn't have Navajo, Pacific Islander, or Cherokee blood. She laments that she wasn't born into an Asian family with a "tiger" mom. Guess what? Diversity or not, almost all of these campuses are ~50% white, so based on demographics she had a much better chance of getting in than any person of color.

Here0s0Johnny It all boils down to the fact that she doesn't deserve to get accepted because she wasn't honest. She did all of these activities and volunteered not because it was the right cause for the charity or organization, but because she only wanted to get into an Ivy league college. You should volunteer because altruistically it's a cause you believe in and getting into these schools would be a bonus. Her intentions were hollow and superficial, that's why she's so bitter.

I disagree actually. As a soon-to-be college graduate, I would definitely do things differently in HS as well just to make my track record look better. In our capitalistic society, who actually does things because they really want to? No they do it because it's required to get to the next level. She's right when she says college a business model. She is very well spoken and seems bright and while I don't in the least bit feel bad for her (lol), I do understand where she is coming from. She'll be just fine in life.

Because she's a immature little shit whose response to is to write a bitchy article when her mediocre accomplishments don't get her into the Ivy League.

ComboLeafster She is probably more intelligent than your entire family put together. Who the fuck are you to judge anyone?

douknoukem ballsofsteel AMEN! :D THANK YOU!

She is so smart that she just bashed all top universities publicly, and now has no chance of ever being accepted, which is obviously the only thing that she cares about. Yeah, smart move, genius.

Yea i guess she didnt expect to see the day when she would get rejected by a "prestigious" college.....spoiled, entitled brat....well now she should know why she got rejected...

Why do you say that? Sure, you don't want people padding their resumes, but we don't know what she did. The way I interpreted it, she had a strategy and executed. I think that is smart.

I'm basically just saying she's being a bit hypocritical. On one hand, she's saying that she put everything that she had into getting into an ivy, while on other she's criticizing people who do the exact same thing, albeit more extreme. Had she not been so concerned with getting into school the whole time, her message would be a lot stronger, IMO.

Matt Sezer I think she's making a satirical critique, quite impressive and gutsy for such a young lady. We just went through this whole thing, though with nowhere near the intensity we saw in many of our American friends who went the whole 9 yards.

Matt Sezer I would say I have to agree with you on this. Whether or not she's using "satire" as a means of expression is up for opinion because one would first have to find the element of humor in her essay and interview. I personally interpret her response as bitter and hypocritical as well. Her prejudice of those accepted into the Ivy league and uninformed opinion of why people volunteer lead me to believe that she was not truly ready or mature enough to get accepted. The fact that she had no contigency route if her plan failed was further evidence against her acceptance. In my own individual experience in healthcare, I used to work with a physician who once said that he often felt that residents from lesser known colleges frequently performed better than those from colleges with grander reputations since the notion of entitlement was not factored into their motivations.

Matt Sezer from where I see it shes not criticising the students applying but the system thats in place that causes people to build up these resumes only because they want to get in and the fact that a lot of it attributes to stuff they cant control rather than a high scoring student.

not really my sister got in with a 2010.

Okay, I'll change "everyone" with "most people". Happy now? Most people at least have 2250+. Your sister must have been very well accomplished in other areas.

I mean it also matters what kind of high school you go to.

That's not terrible, that's average.

Average is 1500. You have to remember that vast segments of the populations don't go to Ivy League schools. Standardized tests are more about time and effort than actual intellect. If you study for them and take them 4 or 5 times like many do, you will most likely get significantly better scores. I took the SAT once and got a 2170. I didn't apply to any Ivy Leagues because I likely wouldn't get in, I won't kid myself, and because I really started looking at colleges my senior year when you basically have to start freshman year if your plan is to go to the ivy league schools.

yea you need at least a 2250

Ally Niu, they are!? You wouldn't believe how many people have no idea of UPenn, and try to correct me. Even in medical school, mostly the Ivy kids know and appreciate how well-regarded UPenn is. And whether we like it or not, our president-elect is an alumni... 😭😭

That's what she's talking about. Unrealistic standards

LOLLLLOL dude hahahahahahhahahaha

Wow that is racist

Truth.

That's the difference between whites and blacks. Whites work their asses off, and you might hear one or two bitch that they're not accepted every few YEARS. Blacks on the other hand don't do shit, yet you hear them bitch every few SECONDS that they're not accepted.

who do you know bitching about not being accepted? shut yo dumb ass up.

The UnorthodoxTutor You mean Oxford University in the UK? That has an entirely different application system and doesn't require SAT. Your friend must have done well on their own entrance tests and interviews

Still, you're competing against a much less competitive group than whites/Asians have to compete with, and while you still may need to be above average, you won't need to be nearly as "exceptional" as a white or Asian applicant would have to be. But good luck anyhow, it's definitely a stressful process for everyone, regardless of race.

+areawiper Yes, some people have unique circumstances, but not all blacks do, and some asians and whites do, so that should be conveyed through an applicant's essays, not just their race. It's a messed up generalization. For example, I think it's fair to have lower standards for people from lower incomes, since they have struggled more, but race isn't nearly the same thing.

***** Okay so no.1) Slavery and college admissions are such drastically different issues that a comparison between the two is baseless and arbitrary. no.2) I agree that slavery should not be used as a weapon against whites. That's stupid and unfair. But, should it be remembered and taught in history class just like, oh I don't know...every OTHER tragic event in history? Yes, it should.

Bottom line is, Asians and whites who get into ivy league schools have worked harder, on average, than blacks/Hispanics who get into the same schools. That's just the way it is. Yes they have struggled more, as a group, but not every single black/Hispanic applicant has come from worse circumstances than every single Asian/white applicant so there should not be this huge push to accept blacks/Hispanics therefore causing the competition for Asians/whites to become ridiculously intense.

***** I highly encourage you to read up on that. Try reading both sides and don't make sweeping generalizations.

+robert luong Who would want to date her?

+robert luong She sure is annoying.

I want , since she is jewish and smart

***** It's the truth,

+SuperSimpleasthat Jewish girls got hairy pinks!

I am Asian and the person i mentioned is my cousin's friend.

SpryO3 Some schools care about diversity and will deliberately seek out students of other cultures. In some places non-whites may also qualify for affirmative action-based considerations. Although I'm not sure heikiu96z meant it that way. While we're on that topic, boosting gpa's is stupid (if this isn't a boosted gpa then you're stupid for using the 5 scale gpa.), and there's nothing impressive about it.

***** The girl from this video used the 5 scale, that's why i used it too to compare. I just want to point out the fact that this girl aren't ivy league caliber student, but she will still be sucessful.

Sorry I didn't watch the entire thing, just got annoyed she was complaining about not being good enough because of certain things and stopped watching. But yes, I completely agree with that... as long as she doesn't blame future failures on institutions lying to her instead of realizing how selective said institutions have to be and how she stacks up against competition.

Fuck these schools. Go to a good party school but with good academics and graduate. Live life while you can, why would anyone want to go to these schools? Once you graduate start a business, invest in stocks, invest in real estate, and BAM $$$ comes in just like that.

TreborHG_93 highly unlikely because with the grades and sat scores she probably had full rides to these state schools.

TreborHG_93 A University of Michigan degree has value, serious value.

***** if you were her father it wouldn't matter because she doesn't have to listen to you. She earned it. Maybe you're just envious. Ever regret your life and not doing better in highschool?

***** I'm going through community college now. I have nothing against that. I pay my own bills and my own tuition. No student loans. Right now I have an average 3.7 gpa and I'm working my ass off because I want to get a full ride through a graduate school. The more prestigious the better because that's what employers work at.

***** well good for him!

Hobbit Fan really isn't lmao

2120/2200

Anthony Landaverde *2400

Anthony Tran it changed?

Anthony Landaverde Three years ago, it was out of 2400. Now, it is out of 1600.

lol this is a quick reply, but no we took the actual SATs with juniors. The average SAT score is a 1500 yes, but the average SAT score for IVY league schools is like 2300s. So yes a 2120 is great, but for what she wanted it isn't.

Gus Fring Tbh, once you reach 700+ in each section, it doesn't really matter anymore unless your trying to go to MIT or Cal Tech where writing and reading scores are lower and math scores are higher. I've had a friend get into Columbia with a 1950, and she was white with no special circumstances. I have a few friends at these schools and they just had good grades and 1 or 2 leadership positions in clubs. No one really knows what these schools look for.

I live in the Bay Area. It's pretty much a consensus that a 2300+ is required to even be considered for an Ivy League or a school like Berkeley or Stanford.

Malik Abel A kid at my school got a 800 on the math section.... and was rejected at MIT. I'm still waiting on my Berkeley acceptance/rejection though.

I am on mobile and cannot reply to jewlz, But I wanted to say that some schools have programs such as John Hopkins where middle schoolers can take the SATs not PSATs

@@hicrhodushicsalta4382 and have good grades

Oh I know you know that an under qualified minority can get a spot when a more deserving student can’t for the sin of being born a Caucasian.

Statistically speaking a minority is more likely to get accepted compared to a white person with the same grades.

She's saying that with her grades and accomplishments, if she wore a headdress, she would have been admitted. Wearing a headdress should not make the difference maker.

Well, we could look at Senator Warren…

i can't help it and I'm terrified :s

jesse chanell sucks

yea basically

It basically occurs amongst teenagers from wealthy families, who are terrified of being "poor" aka working class

I don't know what her unweighted GPA was, but I am certain it was close to 4.0, thus her GPA was certainly in Ivy range. Her SAT is also above the 25th percentile of Yale and Penn's admissions. Her stats seemed great for Ivy league; her personality, on the other hand, was absolutely not.

25th percentile is not that great. Those below the 50th percentile generally have some sort of "hook" - legacy, special circumstances, hardships, stellar extracurriculars, etc. And why are you certain that her unweighted was close to a 4.0? I have a 5.0 W with a UW of 3.7. My GPA is being boosted 1.3, so she could very well have far below a 4.0 uw and still have a 4.5. Going off her stats alone, there is no reason to have the expectation of admission.

4.0 isnt ivy league, thats the average for UC Santa Cruz this past year, ivy league is closer to a 4.8-5.0 including extra curiculars

iam plant he said UNWEIGHTED. the unweighted gpa scale only goes up to a 4.0

I have all fucking AP classes man, high school is kicking my ass

***** oh really? What school do you go to?

curryeater259 to a decent university. Anyways, im saying regular highschool classes hand out As but if you are taking APs or college credit courses, then that can be another story.

Not necessarily. The colleges in our state often profile the high schools to see how easy they give out a's based on other people from said high school that were accepted to the college and how well they did.

Ya like i said, having a 4.5 gpa doesnt mean much especially when it's from an easy school, and rofl, i know some schools offer 5.0s too, the kids with 5.0s should be accepted to university on planet mars for the gifted and talented. The whole over 4.0+ system is retarded and doesn't make sense.

sat score of 2125!!! isn't out of 2500 or 2400??? you don't think that's high?

It's out of 2400. And no - it's not that high. I'm not saying that it is low, but it is certainly not high enough for Ivy League schools. I went to Brown.