Relativity: how people get time dilation wrong

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Einstein’s special theory of relativity is notorious for being easy to misuse, with the result that sometimes result in claims of paradoxes. When one digs more carefully into the theory, you find that no such paradoxes actually exist. In this video, Fermilab’s Dr. Don Lincoln describes a commonly claimed time dilation paradox and shows how to resolve it.
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@voranartsirisubsoontorn9010
@voranartsirisubsoontorn9010 5 жыл бұрын
As a sixty years old lady with no prior physic education, I mostly can understand your words, that is great to me, Thank you.
@eskiltester3913
@eskiltester3913 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's an amazing narrator Even I understand it somewhat 😂
@GP-qb9hi
@GP-qb9hi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a 3-months old infant and understood it on my first watch.
@DragonFanngg
@DragonFanngg 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a 9 y.o. panda and don't even understand the idea of human communication and articulation, I still was able to comprehend most of the things he talked about. Cheers!
@kensonwesley
@kensonwesley 3 жыл бұрын
ship
@raptorm8242
@raptorm8242 3 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@danheidel
@danheidel 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, as it cleared up some of the ambiguities I had about relative reference frames and relativity. However, I would make some suggestions on how it's presented. The constant use of Observer 1 and Observer 2 and quickly jumping back and forth between who sees was was almost impossible to follow, It quickly just becomes noise stew. I had to rewind and rewatch some sections several times to make sense of what you're saying. E.g.: what you're saying at 9:32 - it's extremely hard to parse: "That means that the transformation of what Observer 2 sees compared to what Observer 1 sees depends on location. Observer 2 sees more time elapsed than Observer 1 sees at Observer 1's location, but sees less time elapsed than Observer 1 sees at Observer 2's location." That would be fine in written material but is very hard to follow when listening to a voice while also watching the animations and trying to read the text. I would recommend you use actual names like Alice and Bob rather than numbered people. The viewer is already having to follow the equations, adding in numbered people and locations is too much numeric data to have to listen to all at once. Here's a suggestion for an easier to parse phrasing: "That means that the transformation of what the two observers see depends on location. Bob sees more time elapsed at Alice's location than she does. However, Bob sees less time elapsed than Alice does when looking at his location." Using the pronouns helps to avoid the rapid repetition of Observer1 and Observer 2 to the point they all just blend together.
@geoffb1418
@geoffb1418 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks
@frankdimeglio8216
@frankdimeglio8216 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffb1418 THE ULTIMATE, TOP DOWN, BALANCED, THEORETICAL, AND CLEAR MATHEMATICAL PROOF OF THE FACT THAT E=MC2 IS F=MA: The BALANCE of being AND experience is essential. Consider what is BALANCED BODILY/VISUAL EXPERIENCE. (SO, think about what is THE EYE.) The orange Sun is lava ON BALANCE !! THINK. Think about what is THE MAN who IS standing on what is THE EARTH/ground. Think about TIME. NOW, think about what is THE MAN who IS in what is outer "space". (Very importantly, outer "space" involves full inertia; AND it is fully invisible AND black.) Think about what is THE SUN. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. Carefully consider what now follows, as E=MC2 is CLEARLY and NECESSARILY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE. Time dilation ultimately proves ON BALANCE that E=MC2 IS F=ma, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY IS GRAVITY. Time is NECESSARILY possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE, AS E=MC2 IS F=ma; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity ON BALANCE. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. Great !!!! QUANTUM GRAVITY !!!! E=MC2 IS F=ma. This NECESSARILY represents, INVOLVES, AND DESCRIBES what is possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE. What are THE EARTH/ground AND THE SUN are CLEARLY E=MC2 AND F=ma IN BALANCE. Very importantly, outer "space" involves full inertia; AND it is fully invisible AND black. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. GRAVITATIONAL force/ENERGY IS proportional to (or BALANCED with/as) inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, AS E=MC2 IS F=ma; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Gravity/acceleration involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, AS E=MC2 IS F=ma; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand. It does ALL CLEARLY make perfect sense. GOT IT !!!! THE SKY is BLUE, AND THE EARTH is ALSO BLUE !!! Great !!! NOW, think about WHAT IS THE MAN who IS standing on what is THE EARTH/ground. Perfect !!!! Gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites, AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. It all CLEARLY makes perfect sense. (Balanced inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental. Energy has/involves GRAVITY, AND ENERGY has/involves inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE.) "Mass"/ENERGY involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE consistent with/as what is BALANCED electromagnetic/gravitational force/ENERGY; as E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Accordingly, ON BALANCE, objects (AND WHAT IS the falling MAN) fall at the SAME RATE (neglecting air resistance, of course); as E=MC2 IS CLEARLY F=MA ON BALANCE !!!!! It also makes perfect sense that the PLANETS move away very, very, very slightly in relation to what is THE SUN. (The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky.) Great. E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE. Gravity/acceleration involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY F=ma; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Great !!!!!! Carefully consider what is THE MAN who IS standing on what is THE EARTH/ground. Touch AND feeling BLEND, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Magnificent !!! E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE !!! By Frank DiMeglio
@frankdimeglio8216
@frankdimeglio8216 2 жыл бұрын
TIME dilation ULTIMATELY proves ON BALANCE that ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. This necessarily represents, INVOLVES, AND DESCRIBES what is possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE !!! Indeed, TIME is NECESSARILY possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity ON BALANCE !!!! Great !!!! By Frank DiMeglio
@vaishnavi2608
@vaishnavi2608 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this That was exactly the point in the video where my brain went into a loop trying to figure out the statements
@alchemy1
@alchemy1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh really? So what did he prove in one sentence? You gonna tell me or not?
@jameslane2326
@jameslane2326 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone always told me I was smart, then i watched this video and found out that everyone was wrong :(
@corwin-7365
@corwin-7365 4 жыл бұрын
Or... perhaps... the explanation just wasn't that good (given your starting knowledge).
@demandred1957
@demandred1957 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly..
@potencjau6571
@potencjau6571 4 жыл бұрын
dude, its relative XD
@cloudv9879
@cloudv9879 4 жыл бұрын
@@potencjau6571 🤣
@gtab1268
@gtab1268 4 жыл бұрын
@pyropulse That's pretty cool man!
@Skunkwerx
@Skunkwerx 4 жыл бұрын
Einstein came up with this 105 years ago. 105 years later, with all the technology and education thats come with it, and I still can’t wrap my head around basic math, if only to enable me to understand that mans genius in its true entirely.
@jonskowitz
@jonskowitz 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how many times I'll have to watch this before it 'clicks'
@EpicBunty
@EpicBunty 4 жыл бұрын
Its relative, but the faster you watch it the more confused u will be.
@AstroRamiEmad
@AstroRamiEmad 4 жыл бұрын
y times if you run at the speed of light ... I've tried it
@KuK137
@KuK137 4 жыл бұрын
@Justa Fool 0/10000 troll, matey
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 4 жыл бұрын
jonskowitz I thought the EXACT same thing!!! I’d certainly require some upfront education before I’d even attempt it
@marianskodowski8337
@marianskodowski8337 3 жыл бұрын
A great deception in physics started with Lorentz, no doubt ... but it is the whiskery troll who's trolling physicians for 100 years now
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 6 жыл бұрын
A bold attempt but just as confusing.
@dreamdiction
@dreamdiction 4 жыл бұрын
It will always be confusing because relativity is bullshit.
@darkseid856
@darkseid856 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamdiction why the fuck you even decided to open a video with "relativity" clearly written on the thumbnail and title .If you think it's bullshit then don't come here . Go and make "theories" with your flat earther buddies .
@cinegraphics
@cinegraphics 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreamdiction Thank you for having brain. Finally someone. Eight billion people on the planet and only a dozen of them have brain. Yes, relativity is bullshit. And I like to visit places that "explain" relativity and call it bullshit. Just to interfere with the propaganda. Science should equal to truth. But it has turned into propaganda. That's not real science.
@wav2806
@wav2806 4 жыл бұрын
@@cinegraphics "I'm too stupid to understand it therefore bullshit."
@DM-rc4yu
@DM-rc4yu 4 жыл бұрын
@@cinegraphics So when did this turning into propaganda happen? With theory of relativity being over 100 years old and you writing this on a computer or a phone thanks to science and all...
@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813
@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813 4 жыл бұрын
**observer 3** “You wanna know what I think?”
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@richardlinsley-hood7149
@richardlinsley-hood7149 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the triplet paradox raises its hand.
@spring9603
@spring9603 Ай бұрын
@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813 😂😂😂 ❤
@Laceykat66
@Laceykat66 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, good thing I watched this. I was GOING to be "cavalier" about using Relativity just this weekend, but the video was ample warning. Thanks
@Hambone3773
@Hambone3773 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@TerryProthero
@TerryProthero 4 жыл бұрын
@Laceykat66 Yeah, when I was younger I went through a rebellious phase where a I did a lot of sloppy physics. It's not something I'm proud of.
@dmitrysofronov8624
@dmitrysofronov8624 3 жыл бұрын
@Laceykat66 But you were right, weren't you? This video doesn't prove anything.
@lhommedieu5489
@lhommedieu5489 3 жыл бұрын
Abolutely knew this comment would be here.
@chrisbarringer9886
@chrisbarringer9886 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@silentwraith506
@silentwraith506 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my pal did a shot everytime he said T sub 1... He is now dead!
@justsomeguy892
@justsomeguy892 3 жыл бұрын
F
@prg54
@prg54 3 жыл бұрын
ajajajajaja
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 3 жыл бұрын
Is that because you experienced time dilation and he didn't?
@mrloop1530
@mrloop1530 3 жыл бұрын
RIP your pal
@christianott1586
@christianott1586 4 жыл бұрын
First time using the 0.75 speed setting - totally worth it
@bornafarazmand
@bornafarazmand 4 жыл бұрын
What you answered was totally different from what you asked!! You questioned the reciprocality of time dilation, but ended up calculating twice from observer 1's perspective. "how observer 2 sees what observer 1 sees at observer 2's" is not the same as "what observer 2 sees of observer 1".
@shiken69420
@shiken69420 3 ай бұрын
I mean it was clearly written on the slide, he just said it wrong but it should click ,his explanation was marvelous as it cleared a lot of misconceptions
@christopherfernandes4401
@christopherfernandes4401 4 жыл бұрын
I took physics at university over 40 years ago and still had to watch this 4 times before I could grasp all of this lecture. Helps that I am still good at math. But as a senior it does take longer than it would at university. years ago.
@LemarFrench
@LemarFrench 7 ай бұрын
Question...as it's being professed as REALITY...what examples are there of this effect in nature? In nature, the faster I travel through space...will always reduce my time of travel...theoretically, time dilation works, but realistically...it doesn't
@zenastronomy
@zenastronomy 4 ай бұрын
​​@@LemarFrencheverywhere. astrophysics, gps, satellites etc all require time dilation to be taken into account every day and satellites adjusted otherwise none of them would work. within a day all gps would be out of sync and accuracy anything travelling fast or over great distances usually anything in space man made or natural
@ThoughtShaman
@ThoughtShaman 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video However, the use of the word "sub" constantly creates a lot of auditory noise detracting from the content at hand making it harder to concentrate. "t 1" conveys the same meaning as "t sub 1" without the noise.
@haldial2459
@haldial2459 5 жыл бұрын
ThoughtShaman I think a further communication problem is the lack of direction given in the tone of voice. Often the words and labels are less important than the intonation to help the listener follow the arguments.
@ronclass1782
@ronclass1782 5 жыл бұрын
But that's not the right way to say it. T sub 1 is the right way.
@ZeroG
@ZeroG 5 жыл бұрын
Ron Class There is no right and wrong way to say it. He makes a valid point. The word “sub” adds no helpful meaning to the explanation.
@melgross
@melgross 4 жыл бұрын
Zero-G it’s the proper way to say it.
@renx81
@renx81 4 жыл бұрын
@@melgross What is "proper" depends on your goal. If you goal is to be pedantic, then sure, but in the context of educational content such as this your goal should be to be as easy to follow as possible. Everyone can follow the formulas on screen without the excess use of the syllable "sub".
@TheApostleofRock
@TheApostleofRock 6 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. Thank you. I finally have some knowledge of these Lorentz transforms I've heard about. Pretty much everything in this video was new.
@grafbobYT
@grafbobYT 3 жыл бұрын
Glad my back button works - one proof of the idea are the adjustments made to GPS satellites, without regular corrections, GPS measurements would be in error.
@neonsilver1936
@neonsilver1936 2 жыл бұрын
This was my first introduction into those basic lorentz tranformation equations. Honestly, this (literally just talking a bit about the math involved and explaining it unambiguously) was one of the most helpful introductions I think I could have found. Thanks!
@9twisted
@9twisted 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in yr 7 but me and my friend go to a yr 11 and sixth form tutor to talk about what u talk about and he teaches us new things too! U just earned yourself a new sub!
@tomcass240
@tomcass240 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no intuitive understanding can be gained from this video, whatsover he literally just regurgitated the equations and said "there is no paradox because lorentz transformations equations say there aren't". Makes me think the narrator doesn't really understand anything outside of the maths, in which case he shouldn't be trying to teach physics. I've seen far more elegant explanations than this that don't just dive straight into equations that only people with an advanced maths education are going to properly understand.
@davidwilkinson8431
@davidwilkinson8431 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Isaac Newton / Iron Maiden T-Shirt
@harryr.6744
@harryr.6744 11 ай бұрын
Relativity double talk confusion at its best. Gets award for best obfuscation of science ever.
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 11 ай бұрын
If you expect to watch a 10 minute video and understand relativity and time dilation which is one of the most tricky and complicated topics in physics, then you need to recalibrate your expectations
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 4 жыл бұрын
time dilatation can be observed when your wife says she needs 5 minutes to get dressed. On your watch it passed 45 minutes, but for her it's still 5 minutes.
@Enderia2
@Enderia2 3 жыл бұрын
wow she runs fast
@sono1951
@sono1951 2 жыл бұрын
So there's just wife jokes everywhere for this time thing huh.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 жыл бұрын
"wife jokes" are another channel, bro...
@ludvighp6235
@ludvighp6235 Жыл бұрын
@Martin willemse No one read that, if you truly understand it Then you can explain it shorter
@popscola2574
@popscola2574 Жыл бұрын
@Martin willemse plz make shorter version
@pronounjow
@pronounjow 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely need to rewatch. Thanks for posting this video. I've been confused about this.
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 6 жыл бұрын
I've always struggled with coordinate transformations. I think the use of the standard configuration (1 space dimension instead of 3) adds additional confusion for beginners. It isn't obvious to me how you would extent this back to the 4-D world. Can you just treat each velocity as the component velocities directed along the x, y and z directions? Does the time Lorentz equation depend on just the magnitude of the velocity? Or are the velocity components combined in a different way? Granted, I've never taken a course on Special Relativity, but I think most students are fed a dumbed-down version of special relativity, which actually makes it harder for people who really want to dig into the details to follow the math and understand what is going on.
@Ni999
@Ni999 6 жыл бұрын
Jess Stuart I'm pressed for time in real life, wanted to cover some tips, and don't want you to feel like my curt responses are condescending - just in a hurry over here. Dumbed down? Maybe. But more like just getting the degenerative cases clear first. Courses I took always stressed the importance of that because as you add conditions, the gotchas come fast and strong unless the basics are crystal clear. Over the years I've had to return to the basics myself - it's amazing how quickly you can overlook something if you take for granted that you remember the basics. I see at least three questions in your overall question about positioning (and fwiw, I think you are asking the right questions). Let's concentrate on 3D motion in space (in 4D with time). One of the most basic things to remember is that cases such as the one in this video must not include acceleration for the observers, only constant velocity relative to each other. You can believe that you are (relatively) stationary even if you are at a constant, uniform velocity but if you are accelerating in any way, you can look down at the inertial navigation unit that I installed by your clock and then know that you are accelerating - the case shown here does not apply to you. Next case - ok, you are not accelerating. From your point of view, you are not moving. If the one you are observing is moving in 3 space dimensions relative to you and is on a straight line - turn your head. You're a point, they're on a line, by definition you must both share a common plane so there can be no third spacial dimension to worry about. If they are accelerating along that line, the constant velocity form shown here does not apply. If you cannot fit yourself and their track of motion along a single plane, change in direction must be occurring. Change in direction means by definition that there's an acceleration involved. Either acceleration means that the case shown here does not apply. Getting spacetime world lines right is a pain in the neck - three space dimensions become a single dimension describing change. I recommend the 3blue1brown math channel to really help with visualizing coordinate transformations. It creeps into a lot of his videos and you'll probably get hooked, watch them all, and not miss anything. Then you'll have a whole new set of questions lol. The good Dr. here always tries to either point out or at least remind that he's working with simpler forms. Sometimes it can go by quickly, but it's there, and you are right, these cases are simplified so that only a few terms in more complex relativity math can be brought into focus. But that's OK because you gotta start with the basics and even the basics can get you into heavy lifting in no time. Don't discount the possibility that I screwed something up in this long but hurried response. Hopefully someone will chime in quickly if I did - otherwise, I think I have you pointed in the right directions even though I probably didn't answer anything in detail. (And yes, the inertial navigation unit I installed is magical - it is convinced that it's stationary so long as there is no acceleration on any of the three axes and it's doing that without the gyros drifting or showing it to precession and it's immune to the local gravity because you're not on a planet - you're on a plane in Imagination Land so it's OK for the nav unit to be a little magical. Whether magical or not, real world or not - you can measure to determine if you are accelerating.)
@howardOKC
@howardOKC 6 жыл бұрын
I rewatched 3 times and planning to do another 10 times.
@farid7080
@farid7080 5 жыл бұрын
Jo Reven0]
@cinegraphics
@cinegraphics 4 жыл бұрын
Of course you're confused. It's not correct. It appears that observers have symmetric views on the other observer's clock... but they don't. Because when they meet up, one of them will have his clock really slower. So one of them was right. The other was wrong seeing the opposing clock slower. It's not symmetric. In reality, it's asymmetric.
@roberthambrook150
@roberthambrook150 4 жыл бұрын
What is that line from Big Bang Theory that Penny says to Sheldon. Something like "I know you think you are explaining things Sheldon but your really not".
@andyf20
@andyf20 4 жыл бұрын
@pyropulse it's not, it just was made unfunny by the amount of laugh track used in later seasons. Also you sound like an insecure pedantic asshole
@StanleyKowalski.
@StanleyKowalski. 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Lincoln, you are a great teacher, thank you
@dariscar5218
@dariscar5218 5 жыл бұрын
"begin by putting up the most basic and general equations of relativity" *Head explodes*
@potencjau6571
@potencjau6571 4 жыл бұрын
actually in somewhere around half of film all become a bit clearer
@what2a8guy
@what2a8guy 4 жыл бұрын
pyropulse I’m willing to bet you came here to the comments section just to try to find someone like this guy who admitted to not understanding the concepts in the video so that you could leave a stuck up comment like that and feel good about yourself. Grow up man😂 it’s comments like yours that make youtube comment sections such a mind fuck to read.
@epitaphboi4816
@epitaphboi4816 4 жыл бұрын
What aGuy For real, fuck pretentious assholes.
@swde4793
@swde4793 6 жыл бұрын
This guy im so proud of. look how much better he has gotten since his early vids.
@IntraFinesse
@IntraFinesse 6 жыл бұрын
I thought Dons early videos were excellent.
@jerrygundecker743
@jerrygundecker743 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. I was very refreshed when I woke up. Hope my snoring didn't bother anyone.
@pintificate
@pintificate 5 жыл бұрын
This bloke has mastered the art of making simple concepts sound unbelievably complicated.
@control21
@control21 5 жыл бұрын
If you think that the subject of the right application of the concept of time dilation is simple, then you just don't undestand it.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 5 жыл бұрын
@@control21 It may be detailed, but it isn't really complicated. You just need to keep your p's and q's straight.
@shiken69420
@shiken69420 3 ай бұрын
What he explained ain't so simple dude concepts dude, he cleared s big misconception a lot of beginners encounter in theory of relativity
@felipelopes3171
@felipelopes3171 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Lincoln, wouldn't it be better to use spacetime diagrams? The way I understand this is: if you want to compare clocks at two different points in space, you need to specify a frame that will give you the orientation of the time axis in the spacetime diagram, and this axis is changed by a Lorentz boost. This way you can see the ambiguity in a very clear geometric way.
@amirhesamnoroozi3741
@amirhesamnoroozi3741 4 жыл бұрын
The main problem with this video for me is that how to interpret the following statement: "How observer 2 sees what observer 1 sees at observer 2's location."
@manthansingh8036
@manthansingh8036 3 жыл бұрын
Same problem here
@xiaoxiao-kg5np
@xiaoxiao-kg5np 3 жыл бұрын
@@manthansingh8036 and analyzing some Observers SUBJECTIVE view point of some remote event is NOT doing Physics. Physics is OBJECTIVE, not experiential, and subjective. Two real Physicists doing any experiment MUST always make sure that BOTH observers use the same standards, same have pre agreed origins and synchronized timing etc. All this talk about who is moving should never enter into any actual experiment in Physics.
@JohannBaritono
@JohannBaritono 3 жыл бұрын
@@xiaoxiao-kg5np Does the word "relativity" ring a bell? Observations will always depend of your frame of reference .
@xiaoxiao-kg5np
@xiaoxiao-kg5np 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohannBaritono Subjective Observations might depend on your physical conditions, but the actual motions of physical objects do not depend on who is watching from what location and what HIS own motion may be. "Frames of Reference" are 100% imaginary, and play NO PART at all in the actions of physical systems.
@JohannBaritono
@JohannBaritono 3 жыл бұрын
​@@xiaoxiao-kg5np Just as seeing a 6 or a 9 depends on your position, the same is true for physical phenomena. One easy example: The strength of a magnetic field will depend on your distance (or the distance of your frame of reference) with respect to the field. Seeing an object in motion or at rest, will totally depend on your movement with respect to the object. And to make it even more complicated, if we use quantum mechanics, the existence or not of an entity or phenomenon, will totally depend on the observer, not the entity itself.
@jasonballsack4826
@jasonballsack4826 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you disaggregating the information on the subject into smaller easy to digest topics
@chuckgreygoodman4478
@chuckgreygoodman4478 2 жыл бұрын
I watch Dr Lincolns videos over and over
@Scolecite
@Scolecite 4 жыл бұрын
I want this background so I can say anything technical and people will believe me.
@AstroRamiEmad
@AstroRamiEmad 4 жыл бұрын
I GOT REALLY CONFUSED about the position! I rerun the video many times. And I do understand the concept of relativity. This have me go crazy. Please explain to us in a deeper conceptual video about what the x is doing there
@adrianoaxel1196
@adrianoaxel1196 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the initiative of the videos and, of course, the choice of T-shirts in many of the videos! :)
@there_can_only_be_one__unicorn
@there_can_only_be_one__unicorn 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely conveys the idea of the theory without actually having to understand equations awesome!
@SvinskaRibica
@SvinskaRibica 6 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard. You just have to be ultra mega extremely careful when doing the math :D
@SimonClarkstone
@SimonClarkstone 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Wikipedia's animation of the Lorenz transform helps too.
@KCLBrunel
@KCLBrunel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, be mega mega careful and remember it's super subtle. He's easy to joke about, but he's pretty good too.
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 3 жыл бұрын
So, basically, everything is moving, even if it doesn’t seem so from our perspective. It’s all relative. So this explained time dilations due to speed, but what about time dilations due to gravity? The closer you are to a massive object, the slower your clock moves, even if both locations appear stationary. The clock on GPS satellites runs faster than clocks on the ground, and must actually be adjusted to stay accurate. Even though they are in Asynchronous orbit, and stay stationary over the same spot on the ground.
@nicolez581
@nicolez581 3 жыл бұрын
Does that mean that time speeds up the further away from a massive object you are (earth for example), so does that mean you'd age faster the further away from a massive object?
@KCLBrunel
@KCLBrunel 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolez581 Yes, but that's as seen by an observer on Earth. You would still age at your usual rate in your frame of reference. It's just that if you compared your age with people on Earth (who would also age at their usual rates in their reference frame) they would seem to age slower, when observed from your reference frame. Anyway the difference would be trivial in the case of the Earth (not enough mass).
@josephmoore4764
@josephmoore4764 6 жыл бұрын
There are two good ways to resolve the paradox that "Both observers see that their own clock is running faster than the other observer" The first is that there is no notion of simultaneous with two reference frames of different velocity. What one frame considers to be "now" is in the future of another reference frame. The second only helps in getting over the mental hurdle. There is a third frame of reference where both observers are moving away from each other with equal speeds. At this frame of reference both would have clocks that seemed to be ticking at the same rate.
@popaandrei4422
@popaandrei4422 4 жыл бұрын
Or the twin brothers paradox is not a paradox if you consider that all your internal functions are also altered by gravity and velocity so one can age way slowly than others depending on those factors.
@chrismcgraw2112
@chrismcgraw2112 4 жыл бұрын
This actually helps a great deal, Joseph. Thank you.
@WallysBro369
@WallysBro369 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismcgraw2112 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdyniq6antm3cXU.html
@Dislob
@Dislob 3 жыл бұрын
So you're saying its relative? MINDBLOWN
@shields765
@shields765 3 жыл бұрын
​@DolphinsWIthIgloos Thanks, it makes sense to me that in the twin scenario, the reason that the traveler ends up younger has to be related to the change in his situation (acceleration, force, kinetic energy, or whatever). Otherwise you could just say that they each traveled away from each other and then back together, from their respective points of view. But this video didn't really explain that, right? Or did I just not follow it (which is likely).
@tarmaljed1609
@tarmaljed1609 4 жыл бұрын
Mixing labels is very confusing. T_moving is the time of the stationary guy whilst T_stationary is the time of the Moving guy (this is why when someone reads your equation T_moving is greater than T_stationary, it goes against what we usually read). At 2:43 when you refer to "time of someone moving" it is in fact not T_moving at all, but T_stationary you refer to (which can only be noticed by people who are not targeted by the video). This is even more confusing knowing you can apply the reasoning in reverse (that's the point of relativity). You can FEEL smarter by making others feel dumber, or you can BE smarter by making others feel smarter. That's also relativity.
@neillibertine3044
@neillibertine3044 2 жыл бұрын
Basic tenets of natural philosophy are; 1. Law of entropy is fundamental law and it is unification of gravotational force, electric force, black-body radiation law, divergence law, law of motion, structure of fundamental elements. 2. General theory of relativity and Quantum mechanics are description of phenomenon without entropy or no loss or perpetual motion. They are same and there is no need of reconcilation of these theories. 3. Phenomenon are in classical domain, general theory of relativity and quantum mechanics are ideal case and thus not observable. Theory of relativity needs many assumptions which are contradictory or unprovable thus false theory. 4. There are no two types of charge like two types of matter which arises when one solve Laplace's equation, field without source but that lacks time component. In nature only force without energy loss is magnetic force. There is electric force but it like thermodynamic pressure eventually die out. 5. Entropy is decaying of force or ceasing motion. Only way to counter entropy is cyclic or periodic motion that negate volume expansion and restore system but introduce temporal component, frequency. More the frequency more the entropy. 6. Without force there is no continue motion, mechanical force is due to heat and electric due to charge. Conservation of energy is not correct but equality of power as it is product of force applied and rate. Both force and rate can increase entropy but in cyclic only rate.
@briansummit3818
@briansummit3818 4 жыл бұрын
Conclusion of the video: "Further, they both agree that the remote person’s clock is slower." Isn't that the troubling paradox described at the beginning of the video? How can each see the other's clock as slower without creating separate timelines? (Enjoyed the video and math, but would love to know how the paradox is resolved!)
@corwin-7365
@corwin-7365 4 жыл бұрын
Reality is what you can perceive and measure... If I hit you with a shrink-ray, I'd say that I remain unchanged and you shrunk to a small size. But you, with your tiny shrunken measuring sticks, would say the you were normal and that I (and the rest of the universe) had grown large. We'd each see the universe in different, apparently contradictory ways ("I'm normal size and you are tiny," says I; "No, I'm normal and you are huge," says you). Yet, our interactions will all be consistent. So it is with Special Relativity. A moving thing (whether it is a person or a rock) becomes time-slowed, shrunken in its direction of travel, and is moving relative to the space through which light travels at a constant speed. That means that if I (who are stationary and normal) saw you moving past me all shrunken, time-slowed, etc then I'd know that the way you perceive and measure me and the universe would be distorted. What would perceive (i) yourself, (ii) the speed of light, and (iii) me (and the universe) looking like through your distorted eyes and measuring devices? It turns out (when you do the sums) that: (i) You see/measure yourself as normal sized and normal timed ((no big surprise there, since the clocks you are carrying with you are time-slowed the same amount as you, and your measuring sticks are likewise shrunken)). (ii) You see the speed of light as the same in all directions ((a little weirder, but if I do the sums using your slow clocks, short measuring sticks, etc that's what you get)) so you consider yourself as stationary. (iii) You perceive me (and the rest of the universe) as coasting past you with the same velocity that I saw you going, but in the opposite direction, AND you measure me to be time-slowed, shrunken, etc. To summarise: I know that I am normal and stationary, and that you are moving and distorted. But when I do the sums to work out how you see the universe through your distorted eyes and measuring devices, it turns out that YOU think your are normal and stationary instead, and that I am distorted!!!
@adr3ns
@adr3ns 4 жыл бұрын
@@corwin-7365 the problem is measurement itself. Humans agreeing on a standard of measurement doesn't make that standard truly objective. The example you give would play itself out much differently if you could isolate a human from inflation. The universe would expand around them & they would objectively stay the same size while the universe objectively expanded around them. So in that context the shrinking person would be objectively correct & the subjective perception of those expanding with the universe would be objectively false. 😊
@SimonClarkstone
@SimonClarkstone 4 жыл бұрын
The differently-moving observers have different ideas of what simultaneity is. In everyday physics you are accustomed to different observers disagreeing on where two events at different times happened in the same place. If I'm on a moving train traveling rapidly north and tap on the north edge of the window then the south edge, I think the second tap is south of the first tap. An observer outside will measure the tapping position relative to the ground and because the second tap was a few seconds later the second tap actually 100m *north* of the first tap. We disagree on which event happened north of the other because we are moving at different speeds and the events were at different times. Relativity keeps that but also does the same thing with time and space swapped: observers can disagree on which event happened before another because they are moving at different speeds and the events were at different places. (Incidentally, if no-one is exceeding the speed of light, then if any observer sees the events happening at the same place then all observers will agree in which order they happened in time, and if any observer sees the events happening at the same time then they'll all agree which order the events are positioned in space.) I recommend you look at Wikipedia's animation of the Lorenz transform too.
@ryanhill906
@ryanhill906 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonClarkstone We wouldn't disagree though, because to determine which was north and south, even in the train you'd have to first plot your position on a map, relative to when you tapped each time. Otherwise train-you is making things up without any frame of reference. Thus, we would agree which was north of the other.
@JamieRChamberlain
@JamieRChamberlain 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have had someone like you as my physics instructor as a teen. I could see my life having taken a seriously different direction. I was a number crunching machine and had such an open imagination. 😊
@91722854
@91722854 6 жыл бұрын
May Physics always be one with you!
@stephenphilbin3919
@stephenphilbin3919 6 жыл бұрын
His job is to make the subjects of the video be as comprehensible as possible; a _"Teacher's"_ job is to make the simplest of concepts seem as incomprehensible as possible in order to make teaching it take weeks, rather then the hours it ought to take.
@neelmodi5791
@neelmodi5791 6 жыл бұрын
I cannot express the extent to which I agree with you.
@sinisamilisavljevic8833
@sinisamilisavljevic8833 6 жыл бұрын
Keep going. Leave bad teachers behind. They were not there to be followed. Every teacher somehow hopes that his students will be better than he was. That s why they teach in the first place. At least that's why I was teacher for 11 years, until civil war in former Yugoslavia interrupted it. I know what mistakes I made. Your teachers also know their mistakes, and they wish they never made them. But you are here to correct those mistakes on yourself. Go your way and don't worry about some previous steps on that road long time ago.
@Bissonnette754
@Bissonnette754 6 жыл бұрын
no you're just smarter than the average and a teacher need to move at the speed of the majority.
@yashanand1910
@yashanand1910 2 жыл бұрын
I was troubled by this question for the last 2 days. Thanks for this video, it explains it really well and accurately I believe.
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 2 жыл бұрын
How does this explain it really well? He doesn't explain why he uses a different equation to represent each observer from their own perspective. Each observer should see themself starting with the same equation.
@benjaminfeddersen7937
@benjaminfeddersen7937 4 жыл бұрын
A pet peeve of mine: Mathematical equations don't explain WHY we make certain observations. They are formalizations of WHAT we should expect to see when we look. The Lorentz equation doesn't explain the WHY of time dilation, it merely describes the WHAT. Why the Lorentz equation and not some other equation? THAT's the "why" question.
@thegustavodag
@thegustavodag 4 жыл бұрын
7:14 Why does he always skip the part where positions are relative?
@new-knowledge8040
@new-knowledge8040 6 жыл бұрын
I find that knowing exactly what is occurring, and thus excluding any math assistance, makes it a heck of a lot easier to understand. Once understood, you can derive all of the SR mathematical equations, along with the Lorentz Transformation equations, and do so even if you have never ever seen them before.
@RandomPerson-yq1qk
@RandomPerson-yq1qk 4 жыл бұрын
@@RIPxBlackHawk It has nothing to do with you seeing something in the literal sense. The two postualtes are simply put that a) all refrence frames are equal and b) speed of light is the same in all refernce frames Given just some very minor assumtions you can conclude the Lorentz transforms because of Maxwells euations for electromagnetism. Once you have the Lorentz transform time dilation is a necessity. The thing about how you see clocks came either from somone who didnt really understand relativity, a bad phrasing, or somone who wanted to explain it in a more easy to digest as an analogy.
@RandomPerson-yq1qk
@RandomPerson-yq1qk 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I think that you dont need Maxwells equations once you have postulated that speed of light is absolute. The absoluteness of c that comes from electromagnetism is a key point in relativity.
@frankdimeglio8216
@frankdimeglio8216 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-yq1qk Generally relativity is political in accordance with maximum money making agenda “physics”. Galaxies disprove Einstein. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. Here is the proof. WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, gravity, AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity; AS E=MC2 IS clearly F=MA IN BALANCE: Gravity is not fully and accurately described or accounted for by the idea of “curved” “space”. Consider the man who IS actually in what is outer “space”. Think about TIME. Consider what is THE MAN who IS standing on what is THE EARTH/ground. E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE, as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. TIME dilation ULTIMATELY proves (ON BALANCE) that E=MC2 is CLEARLY F=ma ON BALANCE, as gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites; as gravity/acceleration involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity; as GRAVITATIONAL force/ENERGY IS proportional to (or BALANCED with/as) what is inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE. “Mass”/ENERGY involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE consistent with/as what is BALANCED electromagnetic/gravitational force/ENERGY, as E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. This NECESSARILY represents, INVOLVES, AND DESCRIBES what is possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE. BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental. Energy has/involves GRAVITY, AND ENERGY has/involves inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE. Carefully consider what is THE SUN. Think about TIME. Consider what is the speed of light (c). The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. It all CLEARLY makes perfect sense. BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy ON BALANCE. By Frank DiMeglio ABSOLUTE MATHEMATICAL PROOF THAT ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity, AS E=MC2 IS clearly F=MA ON BALANCE: The balance of being and experience is essential. THE SELF represents, FORMS, and experiences a COMPREHENSIVE approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. GREAT !!! Think. ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity, as gravity/acceleration involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE; as E=mc2 is F=ma. Accordingly, the rotation of what is the Moon matches it's revolution. GRAVITATIONAL force/ENERGY is proportional to (or BALANCED with/as) inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, as gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites; as E=mc2 is F=ma ON BALANCE. Carefully consider what is the speed of light (c). The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. Accordingly, ON BALANCE, the PLANETS will move away very, very, very slightly in relation to what is the Sun. THE EARTH/ground AND what is the Sun are CLEARLY linked AND BALANCED opposites, as E=mc2 is F=ma !!! “Mass”/ENERGY IS GRAVITY. ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental. Energy has/involves GRAVITY, AND ENERGY has/involves inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE. THE EARTH is blue, AND the sky is ALSO BLUE ON BALANCE. Gravity is CLEARLY proven to be ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy on balance. E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE. This NECESSARILY represents, INVOLVES, AND DESCRIBES what is possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE, as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity; as objects fall at the SAME RATE (neglecting air resistance, of course). Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. TIME dilation ULTIMATELY proves ON BALANCE that E=mc2 is F=ma, as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. INDEED, TIME is NECESSARILY possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE; as E=mc2 is F=ma ON BALANCE; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity !!! It all CLEARLY makes perfect sense, AND BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand. GREAT !!! By Frank DiMeglio
@tapan6985
@tapan6985 Жыл бұрын
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@pjmeraz01
@pjmeraz01 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Dr. Don for such a brilliant explanation. could you answer me a question? please. Suppose that one or two of the persons do something, in such a way that the two persons meet and from there they are together and at the same speed. then a) the difference between the two clocks, from the meeting, will be the same, regardless of how the people moved b) The difference in the clocks will be different, depending on what kind of movements each person made and how long person 1 was at a constant speed. c) other ..... Thank you very much in advance for your time and for your valuable response.
@riceandjeanz3615
@riceandjeanz3615 5 жыл бұрын
can you do 6:11 and up for what observer 1 sees because I'm not quite sure I understand fully. or like explain to me what would happen with what observer 1 sees because wouldn't this make the same problem we see at 3:20???
@john2001plus
@john2001plus 4 жыл бұрын
I wondered about the paradox for 40 years. I tried to ask my Physics professor about it, but never got an answer that I was satisfied with. I still don't understand it.
@IndicDarshan
@IndicDarshan Жыл бұрын
u are not alone. Actually this guy has played a trick only. And actually what has he proved is that if a clock is moving opposite direction as the observer 2' clock (which is moving to the left w.r. to observer 1)) is seen faster rather been dilated. Anvd it's a weird conclusion this prof seems to have reached at. : - D. Einstein was clever to avoid such paradoxes,
@riraldi
@riraldi Жыл бұрын
@@IndicDarshan The key is: if your clock in your hand compares with clocks that are ticking in front of you, then it seems that the clocks in front of you are going faster. but if with synchronized clocks you see a particular clock that moves and goes from one clock to the next etc, then that clock goes slower.
@IndicDarshan
@IndicDarshan Жыл бұрын
​@@riraldi It is interesting you brought up the phrase 'seems to be' or 'appears to be' making SR some kind of illusion, However, one of the guys in motion w.r.t each other has to age actually slower or faster or equally w.r.to the other. As this Prof in video does not bring any history of acceleration then it's a symmetric problem. Whatever one guys sees for other's clock the other guy must see the same for the first one's clock. For example if one sees the oner's clock going slower then the other must see the same for the clock of the first one unless one uses the direction of motion top resolve or distinguish the two cases or break the symmetry because both guys can not age slower or faster w.r.to each other IR in other words both clocks can not go slower or faster w.r.to each other unless it's an illusion or time is illusory. My blame here is this prof is using the direction of motion of the clocks or of the two observer to break this fundamental symmetry (and hence the paradox) of SR. Most of the professors use history of acceleration to resolve this paradox but this prof is trying to do the same without invoking any acceleration.
@IndicDarshan
@IndicDarshan Жыл бұрын
Now coming to your explanation is also just avoiding the paradox by bringing in one more scenarios of what seems to appear with individual clock in front and the series of clocks synched in the other frame. Does it resolve the fundamental symmetry or the paradox? Nope because whatever the one of the observer seems to see about the other's clocks (both with clock in front of and w.r. to the series of synched clocks in the other frame) has to be symmetrically true vice versa for other observer about the clocks of the first one. Unless either you invoke the history acceleration or the direction of motion.
@IndicDarshan
@IndicDarshan Жыл бұрын
@@riraldi SO, as the prof in video resorted to the direction of motion to resolve this symmetric case of SR without or in absence of invoking the history of acceleration, You with your explanation will also need the same if at you seem to have broken the symmetry, like indeed only one guy will age faster than the other. If you do not claim to have resolved this symmetry i.e whatever one observer sees fo the clocks of one frame the other observer will also sees for the clocks of the first frame then we both are on the same page w.r.to breaking the symmetry. Provide that you are unnecessarily doing two type of comparison for each observer : one with the clock in front and the other withe series of clocks encountered. I have no objection with bringing two types assessment for each observer. My objection is that the same has to seen or seems to have been seen by other observer w.r.to the earlier one.
@frankly5171
@frankly5171 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are presenting this in a more complicated manner than necessary.
@kingmiura8138
@kingmiura8138 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don for causing more confusion and adding complexity. Why not simply state that anyone who travels near the speed of light for a significant time period will return to an earth that has clearly aged faster than the person who traveled near the speed of light?
@TeodorAngelov
@TeodorAngelov 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos for the spirits. I haven't studied relativity in university so I don't know the people that get time dilation wrong in this way. The scope of this video was much smaller than I expected. The twin paradox was only mentioned and not resolved. I also found the description much more confusing than it has to be.
@smokey04200420
@smokey04200420 3 жыл бұрын
Now we’re gonna look at how observer 1 sees the clocks ***Does a bunch of math but doesn’t show what the clocks read for observer 1***
@donkeyhole2782
@donkeyhole2782 3 жыл бұрын
I think I got older watching this relative to someone who didn't watch it.
@MrGriff305
@MrGriff305 Жыл бұрын
This video was supposed to clear up a paradox, but it concludes with saying they both see each other's clock slow down. It failed to clarify or resolve the paradox. Also, both observers can be considered as moving faster relative to each other. Is either one of them actually going closer to the speed of light, or is the speed of light always relative?
@bearinla
@bearinla 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I love your videos. I still don't get it with Special Relativity, why mechanical spring escapement clocks would slow down, when their velocity increases. What s the reason? Changes in momentum, or inertia, or what. I get it about atomic clocks, but not mechanical ones
@corwin-7365
@corwin-7365 4 жыл бұрын
Atoms shrink and slow down, so anything made out of them does too.
@dejanatanackovic909
@dejanatanackovic909 6 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos and I watch them regularly.. You make most videos understandable to most people (it is, of course, expected that viewers have some "basic" knowledge about the thematics) .. But this video really left me with scratching my head.. When i expected you to explain how the 2 clocks may both seem to run faster/slower the video pretty much ended.. A confusing video, or maybe I'm just to sleepy right now to "digest" it :) .. Keep up the good work!
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the explanation given doesn't really work as a regular person's explanation of what exactly is going on. It just says "this is why the math says it isn't a paradox," which can even have the undesired effect of making it all look even more esoteric and confusing. In that regard, it is pretty lacking in comparison to some other relativity videos, including some other Fermilab videos.
@nachannachle2706
@nachannachle2706 6 жыл бұрын
+Dejan A. Well, it is a matter of PERSPECTIVES. Both observers observe that their times are different as an intrinsic effect of their "displacement" in space. I do think that it is important to keep in mind that although SR makes sense mathematically, it become more understandable empirically ONLY in the light of GR. It's not that their clocks tick at slower/different rates, its more that they are traveling on different world lines in space-time.
@Theo0x89
@Theo0x89 6 жыл бұрын
Let me illustrate what I said in another comment about how relativity of simultaneity is the crucial feature that is ignored in this paradox. The moving clocks at 6:26, synchronous for the moving observer, are out of sync for the resting observer, which looks like this at t=0s (every number represents position and reading of clocks viewed by the resting observer, clocks at the position of the observers are in parentheses, negatives are black):  ➅ ➂ 🄞 ❸ ❻  Ⓞ Ⓞ 🄞 Ⓞ Ⓞ At t=2s (1s for the moving observer):    ➆ ➃ ⑴ ➋ ❺  ➁ ➁ ⑵ ➁ ➁ Now you can check that time dilation is mutual. It is obvious for the resting observer looking at the moving clocks. To see that the resting clocks are ticking more slowly for the moving observer, simply notice that ➃ (moving) coincides with ⑵ (resting), so the moving observer sees the resting clocks ticking at half-rate. This is a depiction of the math from the video that solves the paradox and can be understood without manipulating the formulas of the Lorentz transformation.
@KasiusKlej
@KasiusKlej 6 жыл бұрын
I found this lecture indigestible, sorry to say. Remembered how Feynman once said in one of his lectures, and it gave me some comfort. Sometimes it's not the student that does not understand, it's just that the professor does not understand it either. Yet this Lorentz formulas seem to understand the twin paradox. Professor says the formulas solve the paradox. Well I still don't get it. It's confusing how one state the way about explaining the paradox. Because in this twin paradox, first it's the twin who travels around accelerating about all over, that's youthful. Then professor just throws the formulas on the table. That explains it. So now I'm looking at the formulas wondering why it's not the other twin that's youthful. I'm not very good at physics. Couldn't the professor point out certain factor in the formulas that solves this twin paradox. The youthfulness side of the equation, please.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 6 жыл бұрын
Kasius Klej - that goes to show you didn't understand it and you have an inflated ego. Some things need effort on YOUR side to understand. And this video explained it correctly: both observers see time flow slower for the other party. That is what is happening. The flow of time is not a universal thing - it depends on the reference frame - hence the name relativity.
@Earthspirit1147
@Earthspirit1147 4 жыл бұрын
"Maybe!!!" he sez. Maybe, I'll have to run the video over again... MAYBE!!! He sez... LOL
@debarjo
@debarjo 11 ай бұрын
Fermilab is like Wikipedia, forks too many times to much more interesting videos than the one getting discussed.
@russchadwell
@russchadwell 2 жыл бұрын
"Something more to it" ... the all-engulfing statement of the universe as she continues revealing herself to us!
@SimonClarkstone
@SimonClarkstone 4 жыл бұрын
I hoped that that big row of clocks would be seen from the other observer's point of view, showing them squashed and *desynchronized*.
@noorhashmi2009
@noorhashmi2009 2 жыл бұрын
Have you come across any explanation video on youtube where *desynchronization* of clocks in moving frame of reference is discussed ? If not, I think this is a treasure of knowledge hidden in plain sight.
@FrancoisBothaZA
@FrancoisBothaZA 6 жыл бұрын
I encountered this "paradox" on my own when I was 17 and couldn't figure out the solution by myself. When I eventually met a physics professor he told me it was due to acceleration being applied only on 1 object. That totally didn't make sense to me. There is no acceleration to speak of. In the end, this fatal moment made me decide to study actuarial science instead of physics after school. It's a decision I kind of regret and I still wonder what would have happened if I got a satisfactory answer from that professor.
@azlastor
@azlastor 6 жыл бұрын
His professor was wrong and didn't comprehend the question, also he clearly knows about twin paradox already.
@makego
@makego 6 жыл бұрын
To bad the professor didn't make clear the distinction between special and general relativity. General relativity includes acceleration, special relativity is an inertial (constant velocity) frame of reference, no acceleration. The (non) paradox in this video is SR, no acceleration.
@stephanverbeeck
@stephanverbeeck 6 жыл бұрын
You got it right, the guy in this video knows there is a problem but again explains it wrong. The professor you talked to also explained it wrong. Did the same at about the same age and got from the professor at the unif in Hasselt a reference to a book that I should read. He to did not grasp time paradox not being possible. The simple truth is that when the rocket RETURNS relative time goes faster and that when the rocket goes AWAY relative time goes slower. It is the same thing as the sound frequency of a passing train with EXACTLY the same formula, Though everybody thinks it must be something different.
@moiquiregardevideo
@moiquiregardevideo 5 жыл бұрын
That is exactly how I resolve the twin paradox ; as electrical engineer, think about the Dopler shift of back/forth radio transmission. All the slow time when the rocket was flying away from earth is catching up when the rocket makes the U turn and the two twin meet again with not age difference... except the cell damage from drinking your own piss filtered with something.
@twirlipofthemists3201
@twirlipofthemists3201 5 жыл бұрын
@@moiquiregardevideo You misunderstand the physics. Take Don's advice and apply the Lorentz equation. One twin really does experience more years than the other, and truly is years older - his diary has more days in it - when his brother returns. Your model isn't all wrong, though. It's almost right for how the two twins SEE each other. But it's not right for how local time passes for each. What you're missing is the space dilation that goes along with time dilation. The fast twin sees himself travel a shorter distance than his stationary brother sees him travel. (That effects everything.) And they're both correct. And a third twin (triplets now) moving at a third speed would disagree with both his brothers, and he would be right too. Not just velocity, but also position. Stationary brothers at different places will measure everything their relative way (non-simulataneity), and no one is ever wrong.
@rasraster
@rasraster 4 жыл бұрын
Final complaint: why do you use x1, t1 in a way that is not referring to the position and time of Observer 1? You use it, for example, for how Observer 1 sees his own t and x, AND for how Observer 1 sees Observer 2's t and x. I think you are using the subscript 1 to just indicate some definite data point that gets taken, but that's super confusing.
@granterickson5980
@granterickson5980 3 жыл бұрын
A very informative series. Thank you. A modest suggestion - perhaps a short video on Simultaneous events would complement the Time Dilation & Length Contraction videos. It is not really intuitive - to me at least :)
@rocren6246
@rocren6246 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think this is going to convince many people without explaining how "the Lorentz Transformation equations" comes to be.
@RodneyD
@RodneyD 5 жыл бұрын
Roc Ren Exactly
@davidhunter6766
@davidhunter6766 4 жыл бұрын
Pulled it out of their ass! Thats how they happened!
@Dislob
@Dislob 3 жыл бұрын
I hate these types of videos that try to popularize complexe concepts by using math. The ONE THIING I dont find intuitive in life is math. PLEASE use different exemples. Like you have to start where everyone can understand. You have to describe relativity but making comparisons to Newtonian physics because that is more what our intuition is like. It's a slow process. Its not gonna "click" like eureka!
@guilhermefurquim8179
@guilhermefurquim8179 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dislob Then it will be easy to understand, but wrong. There's no way to understand it without maths.
@itsReallyLou
@itsReallyLou 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your very nice presentation. I would also like to believe that with even more effort, the concept(s) could be conveyed with even less math, and ultimately with no math.
@corwin-7365
@corwin-7365 5 жыл бұрын
It can.
@sadderwhiskeymann
@sadderwhiskeymann 4 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 4 жыл бұрын
The maths behind the basic idea is actually simple. The simplicity is beautiful. A beauty that can only be expressed in one language. Math. Using words and analogies turns something beautifully simple into a complicated, confusing mess.
@paulmertens5522
@paulmertens5522 4 жыл бұрын
9:40 If observer 2 sees more time elapse at observer 1's location, than observer 1, I interpret this as meaning that observer 2 sees a clock at observer 1's location running faster. However, at 10:08 the opposite is stated. What am I missing?
@bakerarmy
@bakerarmy 2 жыл бұрын
This confused me also. I didn't see the paradox initially. You have to look at it like the ship is stationary while the planet is moving. They say the person on the ship would see the planets clock slowing because of that. I never thought that because the ship is traveling faster than the observer on earth so it wouldn't happen. In my mind the ship would see the planets clock tick faster becsuse that is what is really taking place, but idk, lol.
@NiteshPrasad91
@NiteshPrasad91 4 жыл бұрын
This is my new favourite science channel
@tejing2001
@tejing2001 6 жыл бұрын
This seemed like a needlessly complicated description to me. The average person can get a feel for why this isn't a paradox without getting into any math equations with the simple analogy to a more familiar phenomenon: I could propose the law that "leaning things are shorter" which is obviously true, but if we both lean different directions, I see you as shorter than me, and you see me as shorter than you. This is exactly the same situation as seems paradoxical with time (except we each see the other's seconds as longer instead of shorter because of an odd kind of geometry), yet anyone can intuitively see that there is no paradox in this. With a little more articulation of the reason there's no paradox in the leaning case, you can then translate that articulation to the time dilation case. Ultimately the issue comes down to the fact that events that are simultaneous in one frame are not necessarily simultaneous in the other frame, much as points that are at the same height to one of us are not necessarily at the same height to the other. This is the truly revolutionary concept of special relativity.
@tejing2001
@tejing2001 6 жыл бұрын
The mere requirement that no frame of reference is "privileged" very strongly restricts the possible nature of the reference frame transformations. The assumption that further restricts it to Galilean transformations is the assumption that time is independent of space, or to put it another way, that the time component of the transformed time+position is independent of the original position. This is the intuitive assumption that special relativity breaks, which is why I call it the revolutionary concept of special relativity. Also, assuming you don't allow for the idea that accelerating enough would eventually make you stopped again (a pretty strange concept), then Lorentz transformations are the only other way to satisfy the first requirement I mentioned.
@golambda
@golambda 5 жыл бұрын
so to the point. Thank you.
@robclennell
@robclennell 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but you've missed the point. Clocks actually 'LOSE' time, They don't just 'appear' to go slower then make the time up again. This is analogous to your 'leaning things' actually becoming permanently shorter.
@robclennell
@robclennell 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean - "we each see the other's seconds as longer instead of shorter because of an odd kind of geometry" ? There's nothing "odd"? A second is longer, i.e. it takes more than a second to elapse
@colleenforrest7936
@colleenforrest7936 5 жыл бұрын
No, I want to see the math. I think the math is clearly explained in these videos. It makes me want to grab a pencil and play. People need to see the math on videos like this to start making the connections between those squiggly lines and how they relate to reality. It might not make sence the first time you see it, but with repeated exposure, things start to click. Just a portion of an idea here then another. That's how neuroplasticity works. "Dumbing" these videos down by eliminating the equations serves no one. There are plenty of other videos on the same topic on youtube that do just that. Sure, you can grasp the consept, but without the math, you don't understand. The math here is simple and to the point without being a full blown lecture on the subject. It fills a gap that youtube needs.
@otakurocklee
@otakurocklee 5 жыл бұрын
You are making this way more complicated than it needs to be.
@starrmusiclive
@starrmusiclive 5 жыл бұрын
They do that to intimidate and seem superior. All of science is much simpler than these guys make it.
@user-bl1pw2th4l
@user-bl1pw2th4l 4 жыл бұрын
@@starrmusiclive Yeah that's why you have PhDs in mathematics and physics.
@olasek7972
@olasek7972 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Starr it is actually a lot harder, this is an introduction for ignoramuses
@otakurocklee
@otakurocklee 3 жыл бұрын
@@olasek7972 The concepts are hard. But the way he's explaining things in this video is more convoluted than it needs to be (mostly because of notation choices, not physics). Basically there are 2 concepts in special relativity. Time dilation, and relativity of simultaneity. It "seems" paradoxical that each observer sees the other observer's clock ticking more slowly when you look at time dilation alone. But the paradox disappears when you understand that two events that are simultaneous in one frame, aren't simultaneous in the other frame.
@dartyet1
@dartyet1 5 жыл бұрын
Can you suggest any book about relativty which has formulas and scientific proofs ?
@danielthomas2816
@danielthomas2816 3 жыл бұрын
so is gamma a type of maxtrex sence gamma has to be 1 or any # grater ?
@bernieflanders8822
@bernieflanders8822 3 жыл бұрын
General and special relativity are actually quite easy to understand once you get your heads around it. Just wait till you try to get your head around quantum mechanics and string theory. The problem is, most people don't get it straight away so they ignore it and latch on to some conspiracy theories that "explain reality" easier albeit complete and utter fiction. I wish conspiracy theorists would immerse themselves into actual reality as I pity the fact they are wasting their lives by believing in a story invented in a youtubers basement that " debunks" all our hard work and experiments yet they have no experiments to prove their "theory" on reality. It's a shame.
@realitynowassigned
@realitynowassigned 3 жыл бұрын
"lets make this simple" Shows masters levels physics for 5 minutes "So now you see how simple that is. But we're not done yet"
@jezz439
@jezz439 3 жыл бұрын
Dont mean to bash your jokes but Im here cause Im a first year physics student and we are rambling through these things right now :D
@realitynowassigned
@realitynowassigned 3 жыл бұрын
@@jezz439 advanced math? Honestly i always felt there was a disconnect with the simple math. Understanding the theory without the math is profound in itself. Understanding the math seems to trivialize what you're mathemetizing
@chanansh
@chanansh 11 ай бұрын
What breaks the symmetry? The last slide where the opposite transformation gamma and 1/gamma are for different locations? So the time rate is location dependent?
@harryr.6744
@harryr.6744 11 ай бұрын
What he said was incorrect. Ignore this video.
@McDoorService
@McDoorService 4 жыл бұрын
Does the direction in which both observers are moving relative to each other (say toward or apart) have any bearing on how they perceive each other's clocks? I am a garage door tech so this is not exactly my area of expertise, please forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question. I find this fascinating. Thanks
@pigofapilot1
@pigofapilot1 4 жыл бұрын
It is not a dumb question...The answer is 'no'. It is relative motion regardless of direction that affects relative time. However, if acceleration/deceleration is involved it is the object undergoing acceleration/deceleration for whom time slows relative to an object with a constant speed or velocity.
@constpegasus
@constpegasus 6 жыл бұрын
I cannot get enough of these videos. Keep them coming. Also, I like the Iron Maiden style shirt.
@Dragonblaster1
@Dragonblaster1 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder is Isaac Newton would have appreciated Hallowed Be Thy Name...
@GrantZPrice
@GrantZPrice 5 жыл бұрын
the reason there's a paradox is due to our limited understanding of linear time confined to our dimensional perspective. IF we stop thinking of time as a universal constant, we stop having this problem.
@relativityman6196
@relativityman6196 5 жыл бұрын
now that you understand linear time can you answer questions in this clip? //kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jraaZJeL35fUZ40.html
@yingyang1008
@yingyang1008 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, but time doesn't even exist - how the hell can it dilate?
@alexpalacios1102
@alexpalacios1102 4 жыл бұрын
So when I move my eyes, time pass slower for them and distances get short? It sounds weird How can we see in that case? Im new in relativty and i dont understand very much. But I think that we could see and focus on something because we have a like a center of vision in space, i mean, there is an exact point in space, where our eyes are and where we can see the panoram. Otherwise if space can curved then this center of vision doenst exists and we could not see well. What do you think?
@vinodkumarchauhan327
@vinodkumarchauhan327 4 жыл бұрын
Are u putin really
@sbkarajan
@sbkarajan Жыл бұрын
We have seen the formula so many times, but never seen it being applied to real world problem with real numbers, albeit hypothetical. Do you have an example problem, that we can apply to see if time dilation and length contraction does do its intended purpose, i.e. keeping the speed of light constant regardless of if you are a moving observer or a stationary one. Using some real numbers, like v = 0.6c, and find out if time dilation and length contraction works. More fun would be, what if v = -0.6c, opposite direction of the light travel?
@Twobarpsi
@Twobarpsi 5 жыл бұрын
If this guy were my teacher in high school, I would have been a genius!
@Mnemonic-X
@Mnemonic-X 3 жыл бұрын
No. You would have been more stupid than a child.
@richardturietta9455
@richardturietta9455 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, I will re-watch several times, I think to nail home the concepts for myself. I love relativity, and my physics degree helps, but, as you say, there are subtleties!
@patrickryckman3867
@patrickryckman3867 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome and easy to understand thank you
@graviton9971
@graviton9971 Жыл бұрын
How would that work if there is another observer O3 moving from left to right (exactly opposite O2). Then position would be given by Vt (which is -vt for O2). Then the time dilation becomes opposite based on direction (which should not be the case) as Observer 1 (O1) would see time dilation and time constriction for O3 and O2 at the same time.. which cannot really happen as both O2 and O3 are moving at the same speed wet O1, just in opposite directions. What am I missing here?
@chrisofnottingham
@chrisofnottingham 3 жыл бұрын
I actually understood this already but I found the presentation very difficult to follow. As far as I'm concerned the key points are that from symmetry, each relatively moving inertial observer "deduces classically" that the other has a slow clock and a short ruler. And the solution to how this can be is that they can never compare clock or ruler directly because they can only be at the same place at the same time once. To meet again, one of them must go non-inertial, and that breaks the symmetry. I also like the childish analogy that two distant observers each think the other looks very tiny.
@tuoratoo
@tuoratoo 5 жыл бұрын
After watching this attempt at 'explanation' going back to Einstein was a relief.
@samuelmcdonagh1590
@samuelmcdonagh1590 5 жыл бұрын
It was a good explanation you’re just a stupid kid
@richardlinsley-hood7149
@richardlinsley-hood7149 3 жыл бұрын
My latest table which I think deals with all the questions For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 1.0 Apparent velocity = 1.111 At time points : 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 seconds Actual distance: 10.0, 9.0, 8.0, 7.0, 6.0, 5.0, 4.0, 3.0 ,2.0, 1.0, 0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, 10.0, 8.888, 7.777, 6.666, 5.555, 4.444, 3.333, 2.222, 1.111, 0.0 units Apparent velocity = 1.111 unit/second Actual velocity =1.0 unit/second For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 2 Apparent velocity = 2.5 At time points : 0,1,2,3,4,5 seconds Actual distance: 10.0, 8.0, 6.0, 4.0, 2.0, 0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, 10.0, 7.5, 5.0, 2.5, 0.0 units Actual velocity = 2.5 unit/second Apparent velocity = 2.0 unit/second For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 5 Apparent velocity = 10 At time points : 0,1,2 seconds Actual distance: 10.0, 5.0, 0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, 10.0, 0.0 units Actual velocity = 5.0 unit/second Apparent velocity = 10 unit/second For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 8 Apparent velocity = 40 At time points : 0, 0.5, 1 seconds Actual distance: 8.0, 4.0, 0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, 20.0, 0.0 units Actual velocity = 8.0 unit/second Apparent velocity = 40.0 unit/second For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 9 Apparent velocity = 90 At time points : 0, 0.5, 1 seconds Actual distance: 9.0, 4.5, 0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, 45.0, 0.0 units Actual velocity = 9.0 unit/second Apparent velocity = 90.0 unit/second For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 9.5 Apparent velocity = 190 At time points : 0, 0.5, 1 seconds Actual distance: 9.5, 4.75, 0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, 95.0, 0.0 units Actual velocity = 9.5 unit/second Apparent velocity = 190.0 unit/second For speed of light = 10 units/second, Actual velocity = 9.9 Apparent velocity = 990 At time points : 0, 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 1 seconds Actual distance: 9.9, 8.91, 7.92, 6.93, 4.95, 3.96, 2.97, 1.98, 0.99,0.0 units Apparent distance: ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, ???, 99.0, 0.0 units Actual velocity = 9.9 unit/second Apparent velocity = 990.0 unit/second ??? Means an entry for which there can be no reading. N.B the 1st result in all the Apparent distance lines will be ??? as the light has not yet reached the observer. Once velocities get very high, the point at which that occurs moves closer and closer to the observer.
@6stringsbrainfingers
@6stringsbrainfingers 3 жыл бұрын
I actually built a time machine in my basement and it works perfectly. I enter it and when I come out, I have traveled two hours into the future. Only problem is, it is underpowered. So it takes it about two hours to perform this.
@ericpilkington6298
@ericpilkington6298 5 жыл бұрын
The most interesting about this video is that it actually never explained the paradoxical outcome of the simple twin age scenario by using the twin age scenario :D 3:45 You obviously still have the problem with different ages of the twins when they both observe exactly the same thing happening.
@octavohombre2
@octavohombre2 5 жыл бұрын
He explained the twin paradox in another video.
@ericpilkington6298
@ericpilkington6298 5 жыл бұрын
@@octavohombre2 I have checked. Its not explained.
@wcottee
@wcottee 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I love these videos, I hate when people use equations to "explain" things. Equations are a DESCRIPTION and not an EXPLANATION.
@ryanhill906
@ryanhill906 3 жыл бұрын
Right, because the Lorentz transforms really just make the equations result in what we see (i.e. approaching light speed but not reaching it). Not that I'm saying they're *wrong* they just don't explain it.
@JonathanDLynch
@JonathanDLynch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment.
@chemicallystimulated476
@chemicallystimulated476 3 жыл бұрын
But for people who are good with math it can be satisfying as the explanations
@chemicallystimulated476
@chemicallystimulated476 3 жыл бұрын
But for people who are good with math it can be satisfying as the explanations
@garbles46151
@garbles46151 3 жыл бұрын
I’m the opposite. The equations help me “see” things more clearly than using imprecise words. Math is an exact language for the most part and helps remove ambiguity.
@anthonyjackson6319
@anthonyjackson6319 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This apparent contradiction has always bothered me, but I couldn't figure out how to address that question.
@monugoyal1957
@monugoyal1957 3 жыл бұрын
3:16 thanks a lot! i have been wondering about this from the day I started thinking about the postulates of special relativity seriously.
@timearly5226
@timearly5226 4 жыл бұрын
So, we're having teas at 1. I'll be a bit late (in your reference frame)
@RichardWilkin
@RichardWilkin 4 жыл бұрын
Noted: Early will be late.
@timearly5226
@timearly5226 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichardWilkin Of course! It would be redundant if Tim Early arrived early.
@cenaloh4714
@cenaloh4714 5 жыл бұрын
🤯and 😵 rewatch after my brain calm down
@chavab8753
@chavab8753 4 жыл бұрын
did he switch conventions of Observer 1 and Observer 2 in this video? I'd need to re-watch the others but I think he did and I found it confusing.
@poonammehta1963
@poonammehta1963 3 жыл бұрын
One correction..at 5:10..the first equation is to calculate instantaneous time and the second is for duration of time and not the special case of first..otherwise video is superb..
@thomasthompson5613
@thomasthompson5613 5 жыл бұрын
God dang it, I do not understand a single thing about this video, but I loved it
@Zebimicion
@Zebimicion 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as usual.
@mehmetedex
@mehmetedex 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I understand that *"if Im getting away from a clock at speed of light I see the clock is stopped"* What I don't understand why the opposite is not true. *"Suppose Im getting towards to a clock at speed of light"* so why I shouldn't be expecting the clock run 2x faster relative to the watch that I'm carrying.
@snivy8776
@snivy8776 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly it has nothing to do with the direction of your velocity, simply the difference in velocity. Secondly you would need a Lorentz factor of less than one. Which is impossible considering you would have to travel at a negative velocity, and sqrt of negative numbers are imaginary.
@thenewtalkerguy496
@thenewtalkerguy496 3 жыл бұрын
So if I was on a spaceship going half the speed of light, then my time experienced on the ship would be half (or whatever the time dilation is) of the time as a nonmoving observer, then I'm traveling through the nonmoving universe at twice the speed according to my experience of time, no? Since I would be measuring my speed as distance/time and since my experience of time is slowed down, I experience my speed as being faster since I experience less time as I travel that distance?
@silverrahul
@silverrahul 3 жыл бұрын
" I would be measuring my speed as distance/time and since my experience of time is slowed down, I experience my speed as being faster since I experience less time as I travel that distance? " You experience less distance as well, due to length contraction. This exactly balances the less time you experience, thus keeping the speed the same
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