I will love to see a religión for breakfast video about nihilism. 💖💖

Given that UFO religions are often based around 1st generational experiencers who can be interviewed about that experience on camera, aren't these religions more valid in a historical lens? Doesn't the distance of time so damage our ability to know the truth of so many religions in a way it doesn't with UFO religions? The comparison in the validity of a modern first-hand witness to say Christianity which is a religion based on a 2,000 year old account of Paul's visions of Jesus just can't really be made.

@@josearmandovalencia7349 That would be interesting.

It's cool that you are tackling this topic. I personally would LOVE to hear your thoughts on the book "Passport to Magonia" by Jaques Vallée. He is one of the very few serious scientists who researched the UFO phenomenon. Ironically, he came to very different conclusions than most other "science-minded" people in that field. Or do "American Cosmic" by D. W. Pasulka. There is more to this topic than you probably think.

From my own research as a Regression Hypnotherapist I can tell you first hand = Reincarnation - Past Lives - Heaven - is a Real thing. And also Alien contact is a Real thing as well. Man made religions will have to evolve now that the UFO Alien reality is coming true from the US Government with UFO whistle blowers telling the Truth like Captain David Grusch admitting the US military has Alien UFO wreckage and bodies.

Yeas, thank 👽 for this channel, indeed

Lol😅

@@ken-oo4euI think they were also joking (“aloud” - “loud”)

Preach, brother

Same! Happened to be eating breakfast while watching this.

Pretty much every new religious movements can either be traced back to Theosophy, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, or the Second Great Awakening.

It goes back even earlier to adventurers and orientalists who would (often) misinterpret some stories or artifacts they encountered and brought back from far-away places (popular in 1800s and beyond). I think some fairy stories have become UFO/Bigfoot type of stories, too. There are many other sources... Theosophy and Golden Dawn offshoots got some big time press, too. The Rosicrucians got some press. Alchemists got some press, etc.

and its all a more jumbled up version of masonry

Most 'New Age' beliefs, if they don't come from an existing major religion, seem to come from either Theosophy, Spiritualism, or, strangely enough, the fiction of HP Lovecraft, which seems to be the origin of the common trope "this myth is really talking about aliens".

Them and Aleister Crowley have had an unusually large impact on our post industrial world. Regarding the current topic, lookup Crowley’s drawing of the the entity “Lam” he summoned in 1918. Look familiar? 👽

nice pfp

Totally agree. This was a serious explanation of the phenomenon as it is. This is how it should be studied and presented.

Indeed. The mockery is already large and loud enough. I am relieved that they were taken seriously this time.

@@mikkapassos9802 this was bugging me a lot actually. Why are people with this kind of belief being ridiculed, but people who are in "mainstream religions" are OK. Especially in sciences. If you are scientist, let's say astrophysici, and you belive in ETs, you'll get kicked out of academia, but if you are a Christian, it's OK. Perhaps one for the factors is that people who belive in ETs are also trying to disprove science and government through conspiracy theories and are therefore labeled as potentially dangerous or at lest not reliable, while average Christian doesn't try to undermine authorities and is acceptable by the society even in countries with high percentage of atheists.

@@JustSpectre christian creationist aren't kicked too? If yes, maybe for the same reason you pointed out. They question the credibility of well stablished stuff in science and therefore academic authority in general. Correct me if I am wrong.

Aliens are demons. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John. Get a King James Bible and believe.

sounds like a cult

King, founder of that society, referring to Venus and Mars as sources of alien contact is _so_ 50s. Once we discovered how barren those places are, both science fiction and paranormal speculations moved their subject matter further afield.

​@@Preetvndsounds more like an excuse for a social cuppa and a bikkie. (Cup of tea and a cookie?). Never underestimate the power of a hot drink and lonely people.

Lol. Hilarious. In Fulham?

He was not saying it was a legitimate belief. He was only describing the phenomenon that people were organizing religions around such beliefs. But yes, it's probably always kind to hear what your mother wants to say, whatever you think of it

​@@RobespierreThePoof "people were organizing religions around such beliefs" I think thats what meimei meant by 'legitimate belief', as in, the psychological phenomenon/belief system occurring in his mother's head and in her UFO community is comparable to "standard" religions. She's wacky in the same way that any other religious person may be, just without a millennia of tradition backing her up. And acknowledging this psychological process, it might be compassionate as a loving relative to maybe not entertain her ideas, but at least empathize and understand where she's coming from.

It is a bunch a gibberish, but to be honest i think knowing more about anything is almost always good.

What's Umbanda?

@@rmt3589 Afro-Brazilian religion

Bro we had a guy in germany, Dr Axel Stoll (R.I.P.) and he had theories and books about UFOs that we built in WW2 and how womans hair can recieve extra terrestial signals. If everyone has the same ideas there must be something true behind it

@the original poster, don't you mean "Spiritism"? The more scientific approach to spiritualism? I remember reading up on Brazilian UFO cults and seeing that there was a major distinction between Spiritism and Spiritualism.

@@Mr.InbetweenFX what was the distinction?

Correct! It’s mostly to fold in what were separately called USO’s (Unidentified Submerged Objects) under the same umbrella… especially since many sightings/reports include objects that emerge from or disappear into the water :)

Oh interesting. Yeah, religious studies scholars like quoting it all the time.

Doesn't it go all the way back to expressionism?

Very shallow actually

I'd love a deep dive into it!!!

Yes I think cargo cults would be a great idea for a follow up video

This is a good parallel!

Exactly

So many cults, so little time....

[Suspicious side-eye towards Celestial Seasonings tea.]

​@@obsidianjane4413I mean, some groups which use the Urantia Papers as a central text do meet the standard definition of a high control group. So do some groups which use the Bible or the Zend Avesta as their central text. Overall one of the defining features of the Urantia movement is how decentralized it is: there are of course groups that exist to promulgate and promote the text, like the original Urantia Foundation and the Urantia Book Fellowship, but these aren't analogous to Christian sects in that they aren't in opposition to each other or hold any mutually exclusive beliefs. The Urantian community takes the form moreso of a loosely connected network of believers working from the same material than a single leader dictating the beliefs to a flock. In the past some people have used it to try and start some more apocalyptically focused groups, but those groups did what apocalyptic groups tend to do 99% of the time and fizzled out without incident.

The Urantia Book is simply an enigma, that's how I would describe it. I don't think there is a cohesive group connected to that book, even though I could be wrong, for all I know it's simply a mysterious and unexplained book that fascinates many different people in many different ways.

​@@robertborland5083they're a VERY odd company, but their teas are SOOOO good....

you should read some books by Jacques Vallee, since he expresses an extremely similar conclusion. Passport to Magonia is good start, but there are some things that even Vallee was duped by that you must see through, like the Israeli psychic. Nonetheless, Vallee’s inquisitive mind points to incredibly intriguing conclusions

@@antaliano7947 nice! I’ve heard of Vallee, but haven’t read him! I don’t have any opinion on Geller (although i do have a signed, bent, spoon from him), but it’s interesting that the things like spoon bending that he’s famous for, where never part of what was tested at SRI, because they also thought it was just a magic trick.

Carl Sagan, in his book the Demon-haunted World, talked extensively about this very specific topic. I totally recommend it.

In the Islamic world, encounters with Jinn cover much the same ground. As with near-death experiences, perhaps these encounters are 'real' on some non-physical level, but are perceived and interpreted through the lens of personality, culture, history, expectation, etc.

Well, it you think about it, there's a strong connection between extraterrestrial and interdimensional beings that came from a different reality.

What shape and color was it and how long did the event last

Noice

Don’t forget Atlantis. Graham Hancock wouldn’t forgive you

How long until people start worshipping ChatGPT, I wonder 🤔 😋

"Collective unconscious" is a big unscientific and absurd piece of sophistry. All social phenomena have their origin in culture. And all human cultures share some aspects because they are all HUMAN cultures. We are a single species and we share our way of looking at the external world.

I don't think you were dealing with the top brass.

They thought you had a small package

Did they call you feo or wey.???

You aren't even worth probing

I don’t think they would want to probe a 300 lb minecraft player who owns a forced history server 2b2t on top 🥶

we're the best primates in history, maybe the best animal in the universe.

I second that!

I mean, I don’t think it’s inherently wrong to believe things out of faith, the issue is when our tribalism takes us to join cults or the like, but although I don’t believe in all the alien stuff I find it harmless on itself, the only thing that personally bothers me is when some people try to explain why it’s okay for them to appropriate historical and religious figures because they were aliens in their view, and I strongly disagree with that

The Cargo Cult is the best cult and nobody can tell me otherwise

@@user-tm8jt2py3d define 'best'

Maybe, but that would make Hinduism 🕉 one as well by the same logic.

Grifters and delusionals competing for money and attention. 🤠

The Gospels took stories of the culture around, like Homer, and those type of stories as well as religious stories, so yes, it happened in the same way. Christianity is a bit special though, it tries to explain everything, while other religions were more humble usually, so they were mostly just real, not hyper real. Ufos are just Christianity for materialists.

Or non canonical “fan fiction” like Dante’s Inferno or Paradise Lost. Or even the real life Jedi religion. We just have to wait until Chris Hemsworth claims he’s the living incarnation of Thor and starts a cult

​@@OneLine122the gospels didn't take anything anywhere. Rome and the Catholic Church took religion everywhere with the points of their swords.

It's a cultivated identity used to control populations. That's what they were invented for, by the ruling classes, and what they're still used for, by the ruling class. And you're thinking of fanaticism. Like a little girl at a Justin Bieber concert.

I can only offer personal experience here, but I absolutely have been shaped on some level by the media I watch and consume, philosophically speaking. It’s probably not that huge of a step for myself or someone else to shift those experiences into a core belief and from there into a religion

Good point 😅

more so Kenneth Grant's Typhonian OTO, to my knowledge Parsons had no real interest in aliens or UFOs but I'd love to be wrong about that if you know something on the topic

@@thishandleistacken tbh it could be more so his students than him

Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John. Get a King James Bible and believe. Read Matthew.

@@MichaelAChristian1 jesus believed in judaism ?

@@chrisrendon461 "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"- John chapter 5 verses 39 to 47. "The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."- Deuteronomy chapter 18 verses 15 to 19. "For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands. And Moses spake in the ears of all the congregation of Israel the words of this song, until they were ended."- Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 29 to 30. "They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger. They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not. Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee. And when the Lord saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith. They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation."- Deuteronomy chapter 32 verses 16 to 21.

You moved from one superstition to an another , great job 😂😂

@@MichaelAChristian1 bro i ain’t reading that 😂 you have to read scripture written by man to be a good person

The concept of a Great Architect of the Universe is pretty much just a 'god' that tells you to become a little god yourself, since he's not the aristotelian God that is being, good and purpose itself

Saw that one. On one hand it is depressing to know that we will never meet those wise alien teachers. On the other hand it is fun to think that a few billion years from now some alien scientist will stumble upon the remains of earth, dig one of my gold teeth out of the dirt, hold it up and exclaim "Behold! This belonged to one of the Ancients! A species so wise and powerful they reigned over the Galaxies for millions of years." and another one will counter "Careful! Ancient body implants can turn you to dust in a second!"

Mind you all talk like this is basically speculation, informed speculation perhaps but since there's still so much we don't know about the emergence of life it's hard for us to say anything for certain.

They were wrong, theres already intelligent alien species among us.

rsrsrs o menino do acrE? E a historia dos garotos mortos no Mato Grosso e no Pará pelo grupo/Seita LUS sinistro. O MOvimento racional, vale do amanhecer também são grupos ufo br. Sem contar uma galera ai de jovens misticos que tem recebido mensagens desse brother do espaço. rsrs

Let me guess… people started throwing money into his pockets?

@@desiderata8811 we memed him to death.

Pyramids: Must be aliens. Gobelki Tepe: Clearly aliens were here. Sumerian Cuneiform: Aliens handed down writing to these ignorant cave-dwellers. Stonehenge: .... ..... Hm? Oh! Sorry. Nah, that was white people.

Nobody: Not a single soul: The History Channel: *ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORISTS SUGGEST--*

@@anotherhuman8173 I swear to science I heard the narrator when I read that, and I've never even watched a single episode.

If I can pivot a computer hutch across my carpeted floor, people in ancient times could move mountains-worth of stone.

Don't forget Steven Greer and the completely faith based "information" be spews. He's the ultimate version of "Trust me bro" in the UFO community.

The same thought occurred to me.

They do. There is one big difference between cargo cults and UFO cults: Airplanes and American GIs actually did/do exist. Flying saucers and these green or gray space men do not. However, with both, those "left behind" (actual or imagined) pray to those who once gave them the "cargo" for the "cargo" that they want. Peace and love. Power to (do something esoteric). End to all of the world's problems. Teach us to jump ahead to their technology. It's wishful thinking, and unlikely to work as well for UFO believers as it did to the primitive tribespeople of cargo cults.

Most definitely.

Ironically they're displaying the biases of their own time, they live in a world dominated by technology where they constantly see weird and wonderful technology, so they assume this must also have been the case in the past. It's the exact reverse of what they assumed happened, what if instead of an ancient person mistaking technology for the divine because they didn't know much about technology it's the modern person who is mistaking a description of the divine for technology because they are so used to technology.

That saucer looked like a kitchen appliance. Love that movie!

If humanity ever encounters aliens, it's also plausible that we are the bad guys / a threat to them.

Jesus Christ created all things. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved!

From my understanding, they officially changed it. No longer uses umlauts (per their official website).

@@ReligionForBreakfast Nah, they just don't know how to use the keyboard .

Hindus follow the snake. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John. Get a King James Bible and believe.

There is no possible way of travelling between different stars covertly. The energy required for that journey would be blindingly obvious (in the form of light and other radiation) to anyone looking. I cannot emphasise enough how powerful the engine of an interstellar spaceship must necessarily be. We‘re talking about detonating hundreds of nuclear bombs at once every second.