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Who Are the Samaritans?

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ReligionForBreakfast

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Executive Producers: Daniel Cuevas, Dorian McCann, Maritza
Producer: Frederick Joseph Adams
Writer: Matthew Chalmers
Editor: Mark Henry
Bibliography:
Special issue of the journal religions, open access: Religions | Special Issue : Exploring Samaritanism (mdpi.com) - technical, but a wide-ranging set by the big names
Gary L. Knoppers, Jews and Samaritans: The Origins and History of their Early Relations (OUP, 2013) - important overview of earliest period (through to Roman rule)
Yitzhak Magen, The Samaritans and the Good Samaritan (IAA, 2008) - summary of archaeological evidence.
Reinhard Pummer, The Samaritans: A Profile (Eerdmans, 2016) - the best (and only) English-language state of the field starting point

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@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 3 жыл бұрын
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@mosheh111
@mosheh111 3 жыл бұрын
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@chnsm
@chnsm 3 жыл бұрын
Would you cover thier halakha and thier priests books written over the years? I would love to see it
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
So if you prefer to take these Samarian Israelites by their word, do you also accept any and every claim made by the Black Israelites? They have pretty much the same "justification" for being the real descendants of the biblical patriarchs as this other group, they also divert from the Mosaic rite in essential bits like this other group... Yes, there is importance in following the evidence and archeological findings ARE excellent reasons to rethink positions. A minority position declaring the majority to be impure and having fallen off the true faith though is historically always shaky and usually born from some big peeves and religious disagreements the splintering of evangelical protestantism in the US comes to mind, so many "Schisms" there and most only due to "holier than thou" squabbling over rules and doctrine. That alone does not make you legitimate.
@robertmitchell8630
@robertmitchell8630 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone defending Moses Joshua Kaleb might as well be a Nuremberg sympathiser
@robertmitchell8630
@robertmitchell8630 3 жыл бұрын
even a cursory glance at history”, wrote Arthur Koestler, “should convince one that individual crimes committed for selfish motives play a quite insignificant part in the human tragedy, compared to the numbers massacred in unselfish loyalty to one’s tribe, nation, dynasty, church, or political ideology. . . Arthur Koestler, Janus: A Summing Up
@gibiscus
@gibiscus 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so all y'all wondering about the Good Samaritan, the point of the story was that a Jewish priest didn't help an injured Jew because he thought he might've been dead and priests (Kohanim = Cohens) are supposed to remain pure by not having contact with the dead, but the Samaritan was not a priest (if he was the same rules would apply) so he helped the Jew despite their ethnic/religious tensions. So there's two layers to the parable: the downsides of ritual purity and overcoming ethnoreligioua conflict.
@palamecianrider7385
@palamecianrider7385 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment ☺️
@MarkusAldawn
@MarkusAldawn 3 жыл бұрын
I was always taught it was about corruption and kindness- the priest and the wise man passed by, proving that faith or intellect did not guarantee good morals, where the Samaritan was supposed to be an example of someone you really wouldn't expect to help you. For context, I was told this story in a Northern Irish Catholic Sunday school. I think stressing the ritual purity probably would have taken a back seat to showing how sectarianism is bad because the other lot are, contrary to some people's belief, not evil. Or maybe it's an example of how Christianity doesn't always understand the Jewish parts of its history, with the rules about purity and death not emphasised (didn't even know that was a thing until now!) Still, very interesting regardless of the reason.
@Usernumber777
@Usernumber777 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkusAldawn actually this is the accurate teaching of Jesus. He said about the priests and farizees that they only follow the law by mouth but not by heart
@MrJMB122
@MrJMB122 3 жыл бұрын
Let not forget the Samaritan woman
@Usernumber777
@Usernumber777 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrJMB122 yes the longest dialogue of Jesus in the Bible is his encounter with the Samaritan woman at Jacob’s well
@OttoStrawanzinger
@OttoStrawanzinger 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth pointing out that the Samaritan Torah is nowadays very accessible to laypeople through Benyamim Tsedaka's book The Israelite Samaritan Version of the Torah, which not only contains an English translation of the Samaritan Torah, but also has it side by side with and English translation the Masoretic Torah, including differences between the two that are marked in the text.
@nunyabiznez6381
@nunyabiznez6381 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was wondering about that.
@ivanfourie
@ivanfourie 3 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabiznez6381 thank you . . im interested in the actual script of their Torah . . i wonder if an interlinear version exists?
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
I might pick this up!
@stephennicolay1940
@stephennicolay1940 2 жыл бұрын
I now have this and will begin reading very soon.
@leejennifercorlewayres9193
@leejennifercorlewayres9193 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephennicolay1940 What did you find out?
@wompa70
@wompa70 3 жыл бұрын
History is absolutely fascinating. Partly because, as you pointed out, history is still happening.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 3 жыл бұрын
Francis Fukurama claimed in the late 90s that the 'end of history' had arrived. He was a idiot.
@oceanmachine1906
@oceanmachine1906 3 жыл бұрын
@@chendaforest that is what Marxism/Communism claimed too
@buythegamesagain
@buythegamesagain 3 жыл бұрын
Between the U.S. President threatening to nuke Patriots and Russia threatening to nuke anyone, I wholeheartedly agree
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceanmachine1906 yes but he wasn't a Marxist.
@oceanmachine1906
@oceanmachine1906 3 жыл бұрын
@@chendaforest never said he was
@reade_gauvin
@reade_gauvin 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered about the context of Jesus’ “Good Samaritan” story, and what the history is there. Great video!
@Chuck_Carolina
@Chuck_Carolina 3 жыл бұрын
Reade, I would like you to read Luke 9-: 51-56 and also John chapter 4. I hope these will help.
@laurencedankel4751
@laurencedankel4751 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chuck_Carolina I think he was asking for a wider context than the New Testament sources you so condescendingly proffer.
@taesu8
@taesu8 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is a rebuke on people who observe ritual, at the cost of being blind to be good. In the case of Good Samaritan, the ritual of purity. Two first people passed the distressed man did not want to taint themselves from touching a dying man. Samaritan who was passing by has no restriction and assisted the man and thus observing God's desire instead of following the rituals.
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurencedankel4751 You sound like a true disciple of Marcuse.
@moondust2365
@moondust2365 3 жыл бұрын
@@taesu8 True. In part, it's a rebuke on Jewish treatment to Samaritans, showing how Samaritans can be good to Jews and vice versa. And in part, that, a rebuke on ritual observation at the cost of avoiding a good deed. After all, had the Samaritan been a priest, it's likely that he too wouldn't have helped the man. Of course, if the Samaritan was a priest, it would have strengthened the point of being helpful to others regardless of both ethnic/religous differences as well as ritual law.
@bereftspud279
@bereftspud279 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this! Fun fact, I am currently working on getting a PhD in history and religious studies, with a focus on the history and development on Samaritanism! Thanks for the video!
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, cool! Best of luck with the PhD. It is crazy that late antiquity programs don't focus on this group more.
@bereftspud279
@bereftspud279 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReligionForBreakfast Thanks! Your videos are a major inspiration for learning about the rest of the world outside of my American bubble! :D
@MisterTipp
@MisterTipp 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReligionForBreakfast I wonder about the state of the source materials for late antiquity Samaritans. Is there a lot of it? Is it translated to modern languages? I reckon this could make a potential course or dissertation about the subject a bit tricky.
@bereftspud279
@bereftspud279 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhametalijaj7838 thank you!
@MatT3431433
@MatT3431433 3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterTipp I'd hope that language/s are presumed for a research degreee.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been fascinated by the Samaritan Israelites for years. I’m shocked reading these comments that people didn’t know Samaritans are real and still around. But I’m glad more and more people are learning about them.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Жыл бұрын
Watch the videos on "The Traveling Clatt", he goes and shows the Samaritans in his latest videos
@deanedward2379
@deanedward2379 3 жыл бұрын
The recent DNA study is an important aspect not mentioned. The studies find that Samaritans and Jews share common ancestral DNA linking the two to the original Hebrew Israelites.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
Oh of course.
@BrianStanleyEsq
@BrianStanleyEsq 3 жыл бұрын
That the cohens show a common patrilineal (Oy, what an insult to the matrilineal ancestry demanded by the rabbis of the Ashkenazim!) ancestry but cannot agree on the pronunciation of the Name casts an interesting light on a comment made by a 1st c. Jewish religious figure: "G-d is able to raise up sons to Abraham from the stones of this field."
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianStanleyEsq Interesting , as Jesus said if the people were prevented from crying out then the stones of the field would. Indicating a though of continuation , I assume poetic rather than an expected actual possibility.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
@Pojka I dont think its disputed that Canaan was occupied by a whole load of tribes , communities and peoples from around the Med, and the Arabian areas, interesting if there were settlements of peoples from further away
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
@Pojka Iran - remind me is that potentially one of the areas of Ur (or would there be nomadic connections to there ?)
@StrawB0ss
@StrawB0ss 3 жыл бұрын
Now content like this is why I'm a subscriber. Didn't even know these people exist.
@mattbonner12
@mattbonner12 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that they still existed. I knew that there was a split of Jews and Samaritans who worshiped the Abrahamic God, but I thought they died out long ago.
@antiganadasilva8899
@antiganadasilva8899 3 жыл бұрын
Those people are not the sumarian cause the sumarian and jews are the same. Only their nationalties are different. They are just claiming what does not belong to them.
@ef2718
@ef2718 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattbonner12 Introduction to Samaritans kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq2JZ9ulr5fGnGQ.html
@marksman314
@marksman314 3 жыл бұрын
We went to visit them on our holiday trip to Israel and Palestine -- they were super sweet people, and I wish them all the very best!
@arimoff
@arimoff 9 ай бұрын
No such as palestine. Only islamonazis occupying jewish land
@Vanalovan
@Vanalovan 3 жыл бұрын
I remember for my BA final project I worked with a source that was a letter from a Jewish garrison in southern Egypt during the Persian period (4th century BCE i think) that was addressed to both Jerusalem AND Gerezim asking for instructions on how to properly observe Passover. I argued that at the time, it was a clue that this garrison didn’t see a difference between Jews and Samaritans
@Tsukuyomi28
@Tsukuyomi28 2 жыл бұрын
It does seem like they were more similar and less hostile back then from what I've seen.
@stupidminotaur9735
@stupidminotaur9735 Жыл бұрын
or a mixed garrison with both
@gavinriley5232
@gavinriley5232 9 күн бұрын
Or there was controversy as to who was correct, so just ask for both opinions and take the stricter of the two.
@BrandanLee
@BrandanLee 3 күн бұрын
@@gavinriley5232 Or the strictest and most ancient of all jewish laws: arguments.
@M4th3u54ndr4d3
@M4th3u54ndr4d3 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am a geneticist and computer scientist from Brazil. I have moroccan&syrian jewish ancestry. I love to study about the ethnicities of middle east. Here's what I discovered about samaritans: they are the closer non-jewish group with ashkenazi jews. The genetically closer groups to ashkenazi jews are: 1- sephardic jews 2- mizrahi jews 3 - *samaritans* 4 - south italians 5 - assyrian/chaldean/aramean christians 6- druze 7 - levantine arabs (palestinians, lebanese, syrians, jordanians) The samaritans also are very closer to sephardic and mizrahi jews. BUT they have good amounts of iraqi haplogroup subclades, which can definitely indicate an ancient admixture with assyrians/baylonians/persians. So, genetically speaking, both histories are partially true. They are indeed very genetically similar to the main jewish ethnic groups, and they do have mesopotamian admixture. The genetic tests are a new and interesting weapon to analyze these religious stories. Sorry about my english!
@Reubentheimitator6572
@Reubentheimitator6572 3 жыл бұрын
I think your English is pretty good but for your use of comparatives (e.g. your use of 'closer').
@Dreadboi1990
@Dreadboi1990 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Macedonian to me seeing how all those groups you listed historically are mixed with greeks romans and turks
@gnosis2871
@gnosis2871 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the information. May I ask what your sources are?
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
You probably didn't intend this but using “weapon” in this context isn't really appropiate as it implies a conflict that has to be won. I figure you might have used it because the word gets used metaphorically in context where it's a good thing like “a new weapon against disease” or “a weapon to fight misinformation” but that's because in those contexts you're seeking to eliminate something that's almost universally agrees to be a bad thing, so “fighting” it doesn't imply a conflict with anyone. However in this context where we're talking about ethnicity we (as in scholars) should be detatched observes who don't pick a side and just seek to describe a situation. Therefore using the word “weapon” is inappropiate as it implies conflict which scholars not only shouldn't participate in but it's also generally understood that when talking about something as heated as religion scholars have an obligation to try to defuse any conflicts and help people better understand each other. Instead in this context using the term “tool” is much more appropiate as it is neutral and solely implies that this can be used to gain greater insight into a certain topic without implying the existance of a conflict or taking any side in one. I figure that's what you were aiming for anyways. This got really long but as a fellow non-native speaker I know how confusing English culture can be in these situations, you can really only learn things like this from having a ton of exposure to English Academia. It's especially confusing because few other languages makes as much use of war metaphors as English does and they're extremely common in all forms of English literature so understanding the conventions for the use of war metaphors is difficult. In general war metaphors are mostly used in writing aimed at a lay audience to try to make it more exciting, it's almost never used in academic texts as it's seen as too flowery for any serious writing, though of course even in academic writing metaphors are used it's just that you should only use neutral ones. Otherwise your English is pretty perfect, I wouldn't have known that you aren't a native speaker if you hadn't told me and your grammar is definitely better than mine.
@DelzaPauladaMotaSwallom
@DelzaPauladaMotaSwallom 6 ай бұрын
I'm Brasílian as well. I'm very impress with your level of knowledge about these groups. Is, actually, fascinanted to get to know the origins and history of these people. By the way, your inglês is perfect!
@flutiyama
@flutiyama 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian, and I had absolutely no idea of the Samaritan movement down here. Immediately researching it as soon as I finish this video!!!!
@onedaya_martian1238
@onedaya_martian1238 3 жыл бұрын
Please report back !! That would be fascinating. Like the Nisei of Sao Paulo, they would be a surprising group to learn about in that amazing country. - Signed- Wannabe Carioca !!
@deanedward2379
@deanedward2379 Жыл бұрын
There are also Samaritan Israelite communities now in Cuba, Philippines and Canada.
@stinkeye460
@stinkeye460 2 ай бұрын
You would still have to convert to be a Samaritan. You don't have to convert to Judaism to worship the G-d of Israel. You can become a Ben Noach instead. These are righteous Gentiles who worship the G-d of Israel and accept Judaism as their faith without converting to Judaism. People from all over the world have been doing this in mass since they discovered this through the internet.
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 3 жыл бұрын
This gives the good samaritan a little more context.
@cuckoophendula8211
@cuckoophendula8211 3 жыл бұрын
To the Christians watching this video, this is great contextualization for the parable of the Good Samaritan. EDIT: Lol, I find it unsurprising yet cool that I'm not the only one pointing this out
@SomethingBeautifulHandcrafts
@SomethingBeautifulHandcrafts 3 жыл бұрын
Also explains why Jesus took his message to the Samaritan woman at the well. He was explicit that He had come for the lost of Israel, which included the Samaritans.
@coolguy4989
@coolguy4989 3 жыл бұрын
As a jew it's fascinating to see a religion that is so similar to mine, I'm amazed at the fact that they stll practice sacrifices. We jews haven't done that since the exile by the romans 2000 years ago so all the connection that I have to the practice is only through what I can read in the torah, seeing it in real life is incredible! especially when it is supposed to be one of the central aspects of jewish religious practice! thank you for the video!
@mattbonner12
@mattbonner12 3 жыл бұрын
I found that interesting as a Catholic as well. I wonder how they reason doing sacrifice without the temple or even the tabernacle, seeing as the temple and tabernacle were to be the places of sacrifice given the true presence of God either on the mercy seat or within the holy of holies. Rather interesting. In our Christian New Testament, it was also stated that one of their places of worship was at the well of Jacob. It's interesting how so similar religions can be so divergent, even between us Christians and the Jewish belief (albeit a bit more so since we believe the Messiah has come and the Jews don't). Even moreso between your faith and the faith of the Samaritans. It's almost like us (Catholics) and the Orthodox Christians (there's basically only 7 or so differences).
@trentbresler3179
@trentbresler3179 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattbonner12 the bible tells us that clearly there was sacrifice Before the temple and before the tabernacle. Look at Cain and able or when Abraham went to sacrifice Isaac, even when they were in Egypt they asked the Pharaoh for 3 days to go Sacrifice to the lord, and we know that the Passover was done before they left Egypt. So in my eyes he just formalized it with the laws but blood sacrifice was happening long before the Temple.
@hoathanatos6179
@hoathanatos6179 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattbonner12 Well the Samaritans see Mt. Gerizim as the holiest site in the Holy Land and so the sacrifices are done there. The Judean temple means nothing to them and their faith as Israelites where the Israelite Temple at Mt. Gerizim plays the same role as the Temple of Jerusalem does for the Jewish people.
@mattbonner12
@mattbonner12 3 жыл бұрын
@@hoathanatos6179 yeah, but I mean why do they think that?
@coolguy4989
@coolguy4989 3 жыл бұрын
@@trentbresler3179 this is actually very different, in jewish theology we believe that there are 613 commandments given to us by God in the torah, practically every single part of modern and ancient Jewish practice is based on the 613 commandments (including all of the temple sacrifices), the sacrifices that you are describing happened before the torah was revealed so they are a very different kind of worship
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed in the old picture of Solomon's temple in the video, and it made me think that it would be interesting to hear about the design of the temple. We only know the temple from written descriptions, and modern reconstructions have many suggestions on how it can be interpreted. I know architecture is not the main topic of this channel, but I just love the old (and new) drawings.
@baruch.mizrahi
@baruch.mizrahi 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually seen a picture of the map of where and how the temple’s sections were located and built. But I do know an organisation called The Temple Institute that talks about the temple and all of that stuff.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Жыл бұрын
Look up Norma Robertson on KZfaq, She has all the Temple information.
@grizzerotwofour7858
@grizzerotwofour7858 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone one of those "why haven't i looked this up on my own yet" topics from your channel! Love it
@harrisonwinch2527
@harrisonwinch2527 3 жыл бұрын
I know its a bit outside your typical timeframe, but could you do a video on Byzantine Iconoclasm in the 8th and 9th centuries, and the subsequent rise of icons in Eastern Orthodox Christianity? It's a fascinating example of how categories like "orthodoxy" and "heresy" are constructed and reimagined over time, and continues to have huge significance today in the widespread use of icons in Greek and Russian Orthodox Christianity.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
Also how Byzantium started to identify itself as a sorta second Isreal.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 3 жыл бұрын
I knew there was a good reason Jesus chose a Samaritan in his story about helping others in need.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 3 жыл бұрын
Is like this related ? Like the good Samaritan was a Samaritan ?
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 3 жыл бұрын
@Yam Samam thank you. I know little of such matters 🙏
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 3 жыл бұрын
@@madmonkee6757 How about a black guy, or an immigrant, or ...?
@jacquesstrapp3219
@jacquesstrapp3219 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaiHenningsen Any despised minority would work for this parable.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jacquesstrapp3219 Exactly, and the US certainly has those.
@xx99Username99xx
@xx99Username99xx 3 жыл бұрын
Their alphabet looks rad.
@foxhound963
@foxhound963 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what I was thinking.
@sarahrosen4985
@sarahrosen4985 3 жыл бұрын
I think Useful Charts did a video on it.
@jonathanbarnes3061
@jonathanbarnes3061 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahrosen4985 thank you
@abnerbinyamimmenashe9453
@abnerbinyamimmenashe9453 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video from a scholarly perspective and would like to thank you for giving more exposure in the academic world about the Israelite Samaritans and how we are NOT a disappearing people, how we are very different from Jews, and about the archeological, historical and religious information about us. You all feel welcome to come and JOIN Studies Shomrey haTorah GROUP TO LEARN WITH US. We have plenty of articles and studies on Israelite Samaritan Torah and tradition. - Abner from the Official Israelite Samaritan Community - Shomrey HaTorah.
@grahamrankin4725
@grahamrankin4725 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, a very well researched video. I especially liked knowing their current status in Israel
@jsw7814
@jsw7814 3 жыл бұрын
Really great presentation but I have a couple of issues. Firstly, I am a researcher of Karaite Judaism which has some similarities to Samaritanism (there were contacts between the two and even an ill-fated attempt to unite the two communities by the adventurous Karaite eccentric Abraham Firkovich). I’ve published some books on the subject. You say that Samaritans consider the Jewish center of worship at Jerusalem “a mistake”. I’m not sure I would characterize it that way- just like the Jewish take on the Samaritan sanctification of Gerizim is certainly not viewed as a mistake but as something more sinister. Then again, the ancient record is not exactly crystal clear on these issues. Secondly, the group of Brazilians who are converting to Samaritanism is a fairly modern phenomenon. I’ve come across the leader of this group (who claims converso ancestry); while initially expressing interest in returning in normative Judaism, he (they) was put off by what he perceived to be contradictions in the Jewish scriptures. One of the things that perturbed him the most was the fact that King David was descended of a Moabite (Ruth) and yet the Hebrew Bible expressly forbids the conversion of Moabites perpetually (the Rabbinic tradition deal with this and says that conversion was only forbidden for males but not for females). Samaritanism of course views the Davific dynasty as illegitimate usurpers.
@tzvi7989
@tzvi7989 2 жыл бұрын
Then again in the modern day, these differences shouldn't matter between us. Both Shomronim and us Jews are all b'nei yisrael after all
@macosta3499
@macosta3499 Жыл бұрын
Who is the samaritan leader in Brasil and do they have an online presence? Would like to know as a Brazillian
@shayalynn
@shayalynn 11 ай бұрын
Interesting information, thanks for sharing!
@LandgraabIV
@LandgraabIV 3 жыл бұрын
This topic is really interesting to me. I'm Brazilian and I would like to know your source regarding a community trying to convert here?
@tolkiendil4806
@tolkiendil4806 3 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian, I'm also very curious about this. Where does this information come from?
@edwardi8396
@edwardi8396 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know Dr. Andrew Henry's source, but I do know that French social anthropologist Fanny Urien-Lefranc has conducted surveys of and had conversations with Brazilians who have "entered" Samaritanism. (She avoids the word "convert.") Brazilians began entering Samaritanism in 2015. She began reaching out to them for information in 2017. One of her articles available online, "From Religious to Cultural and Back Again: Tourism Development, Heritage Revitalization, and Religious Transnationalizations among the Samaritans," devotes several paragraphs to Brazilian Samaritans.
@Salsmachev
@Salsmachev 3 жыл бұрын
Based on his bibliography, it looks like Special issue of the journal religions, open access: Religions | Special Issue : Exploring Samaritanism (mdpi.com) - technical, but a wide-ranging set by the big names and Reinhard Pummer, The Samaritans: A Profile (Eerdmans, 2016) - the best (and only) English-language state of the field starting point
@webbess1
@webbess1 3 жыл бұрын
There's a bibliography in the description.
@joantrotter3005
@joantrotter3005 3 жыл бұрын
The converts are from what religious background? Like many with ancestry from Spain and Portugal, there are plenty of Jewish genetic mixed in. I expected my DNA test to show Jewish because I had a Jewish Grandmother and some on my Dad's side. Nope. But my Spanish is way higher than thought, and it shows middle eastern. My husband didn't think he had any but his test reads like one grandparent was. My sister has an ex that is Italian and Brazilian and he looks middle eastern. He's very Catholic, but Jewish ancestry wouldn't surprise me!
@projectbreadwinners2942
@projectbreadwinners2942 3 жыл бұрын
Every video on this channel is a gem. Always packed with information. I’d love a longer more fleshed out video on this topic.
@dark_fire_ice
@dark_fire_ice 3 жыл бұрын
I love history, and this is why; one is either trying to revive a narrative or see more of an on going narrative.
@Grmario85
@Grmario85 3 жыл бұрын
Extraordinarily interesting community. They literally function as a flashlight into the ancient world.
@christophermccurry8039
@christophermccurry8039 3 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating. These two groups illustrate something I have always found curious, religions believing a cosmic entity has extremely close ties or reliance on a specific spot, in a certain region, on a small planet, in a vast universe.
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 3 жыл бұрын
And groups declaring themselves the chosen people. Which is not unlike the nazis declaring themselves Übermenschen.
@christophermccurry8039
@christophermccurry8039 3 жыл бұрын
@@kellydalstok8900 while I agree with the overall point I see the effect of Godwin's Law is wasting no time tonight XD
@Ataturkinator
@Ataturkinator 2 жыл бұрын
@@kellydalstok8900 "The chosen people" doesn't mean that Jews are in any way better than non-Jews, in fact it's commonly joked that we were chosen to have a worse time than non-Jews. "The people chosen" works better as a translation than "The chosen people", as the idea is that the Jews were chosen to practice God's wishes on earth; not chosen to be inherently better or something
@generalgrievous2202
@generalgrievous2202 2 ай бұрын
​@@Ataturkinatoralmost like a conscription, so to speak, they were "conscripted" to enact God's will
@gimassaro5
@gimassaro5 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew! Awesome video, thank you! Could you please reference to any sources or news about this Brazilian Samaritan conversion movement? I'm Brazilian and I'm really interested in founding out more!
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 3 жыл бұрын
The research article is by Fanny Urien-Lefranc, published in 2020 in the journal Religions: "From Religious to Cultural and Back Again: Tourism Development, Heritage Revitalization, and Religious Transnationalizations among the Samaritans"
@aldsidu8600
@aldsidu8600 3 жыл бұрын
They are on Facebook with a huge group of over 13,000 of them. One group (American) with 160 or so members is: Studies Shomrey haTorah. There are a couple of the Brazilian leaders on that English page. The page with over 13,000 members are pretty much literally all from Brazil, and it is in Portugeese I believe. I can't remember the name now. Join the English page and ask, and you will be directed to them.
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 3 жыл бұрын
They're also on the Samaritan Israelite website
@codyjoco
@codyjoco 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, however my 19 month daughter waved at you and said hi the entire video and you didn’t wave back, so she got mad! 😂
@aaronturner2694
@aaronturner2694 Жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating period of time and I am glad to be here to study with you all!
@ahmedkol7605
@ahmedkol7605 Жыл бұрын
توبوا الى الله لأن بالصلاح والاسلام تحيا النفوس والقلوب Repent to Allah in Islam because by Islam live the hearts and the souls..
@Inhumantics
@Inhumantics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing the full story of people who have come from great antiquity, may be misunderstood and are still around today!
@donaldseigel4101
@donaldseigel4101 3 жыл бұрын
Samaritans are a mix between the Israelites who were not captured and exiled to modern day Iraq, and the Cuthites from South Western Iran who were forced to immigrate to ancient Israel. "Modern genetics partially support both the claims of the Samaritans and the account in the Hebrew Bible (and Talmud), suggesting that the genealogy of the Samaritans lies in some combination of these two accounts. This suggests that the Samaritans remained a genetically isolated population."
@fernandov1492
@fernandov1492 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video with "Let's talk religion". Much love from México, keep putting out excellent content.
@musicalintentions
@musicalintentions 3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating subject! Thank you for sharing this with us.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 3 жыл бұрын
A Semitic Endogamous group that prefers to stay to themselves for the most part kinda like the Druze
@sahulianhooligan7046
@sahulianhooligan7046 3 жыл бұрын
And Zoroastrians
@ninaaden8338
@ninaaden8338 2 жыл бұрын
Todays Samaritans are actually dwindling in population, so much so that their men have gone and married outside their ethnoreligious group, particularly eastern European women.
@woodygilson3465
@woodygilson3465 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Israelites were originally Canaanites who did the same thing.
@YenkammaNe
@YenkammaNe 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality. 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction "....
@betheva5917
@betheva5917 8 ай бұрын
What Jesus said to the Samaritan woman was that (while Samaritans worship on Mt Gerazim and the Jews in Jerusalem) the day would come that they would worship in neither place but would worship the Father in spirit and in truth.
@ebrim5013
@ebrim5013 Жыл бұрын
This was so fascinating, thanks for making it!
@ahmedkol7605
@ahmedkol7605 Жыл бұрын
توبوا الى الله لأن بالصلاح والاسلام تحيا النفوس والقلوب Repent to Allah in Islam because by Islam live the hearts and the souls..
@mohamadamirulashrafbinfadz692
@mohamadamirulashrafbinfadz692 3 жыл бұрын
Nice sharing. I'm students of comparative religions as well and very interested currently on Haymanot Judaism practised by the Ethiopian Jews community. How about if you cover about them in your next video, I believe it will be an interesting topic as not so much about them being discussed yet in the KZfaq.
@tiagoSS90
@tiagoSS90 3 жыл бұрын
Wait brazil? What does brazil have to do with samaritans? I would like to read more about it. Is there a source for it. It wouldn't be a problem if sources were in either Spanish, Portuguese or English Thanks
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know but I've heard of other groups in Brazil converting to other religions like Zoroastrianism, which has also become something of an ethno religious group. This may reflect Brazil's huge cultural and ethnic diversity in some way...
@LightUpTheSkys
@LightUpTheSkys 3 жыл бұрын
The research article is by Fanny Urien-Lefranc, published in 2020 in the journal Religions: "From Religious to Cultural and Back Again: Tourism Development, Heritage Revitalization, and Religious Transnationalizations among the Samaritans" The religion for breakfast youtube commented this.
@luizmenezes9971
@luizmenezes9971 3 жыл бұрын
Brazilians loves weird minority and threatened religions and cultures that they clearly don't belong to. Google for tupiniviking.
@chendaforest
@chendaforest 3 жыл бұрын
@@luizmenezes9971 Obrigada! Something about Norse/Viking/European connections ??
@luizmenezes9971
@luizmenezes9971 3 жыл бұрын
@@chendaforest It's a portmanteau of Tupiniquim (one of the many native tribes from Brazil) and Viking. Because a lot of brazilian metalheads worship norse gods. Conversely, many pagan reconstructionists (Norse reconstructionists included) uses Umbanda (an Afro-Brazilian religion) as inspiration to fill the gaps for the traditions and rituals they've lost due to christian anti-pagan zeal. The "tupiniviking" (an exonym) are aware of it, and use to point out to the folkists (the racists that insists only norse descendents can worship the Aesir) that their religion is white washed macumba (another exonym for Umbanda).
@grimmace2131
@grimmace2131 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was a great video. I'll admit I was under the impression that they were a Biblical "fossil" as well. A fascinating history!
@KaitlynBurnellMath
@KaitlynBurnellMath 3 жыл бұрын
So, one thing that has bothered me about Samaritans--we have plenty of evidence for the antiquity of Samaritan israelites, DNA that suggests their Levites are related to Jewish Levites. You bring up that DNA evidence suggests only their capital was destroyed by the Assyrians--also very relevant. But scholars also think that the Torah/Pentateuch went through a number of final redaction processes that happened during Persian rule, after the Babylonian exile, and also much during the Babylonian exile. And the Samaritan Torah is so close to the Jewish Torah (outside of mentions of Gherazim) that the only sensible explanation is that it was shared. This doesn't really line up with the timeline where Samaritan israelites and Judeans were distinct with distinct scriptures and hating each other by the second temple period. There must have still been sharing going on between Judea and Gherazim during or after the second temple period. Either that, or the dates of authorship we've estimated on parts of the Torah post-dating the Babylonian exile must be way off. Of course, you don't need written finalized scriptures to have a religious practice and an ongoing presence in the region.
@michaelrenper796
@michaelrenper796 3 жыл бұрын
It makes a bit more sense in context of what we learned from the Qumram scrolls. Namely that there was never (in antiquity) a single Jewish belief, nor two. But a wide range of sects who shared a common cultural background but fought bitterly in politics and details. If you now add politics into the game. E.g. the the returnees from Babylon establishing themselves as an elite in Jerusalem but at the same time alienating some of the local sects. Then more politics during the Greek and Romans times .... at the end two sects survived (many more died out in the last 2000 years) the Jews and the Samaritans. Who distilled two similar but distinct stories from a wide range of traditions (of which many are lost, but sometimes get a snippet like in Qumran).
@rogerlephoque3704
@rogerlephoque3704 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Cohanim DNA also matches? There's a KZfaq piece out there that features a Samaritan gentleman who rejoices in the name of Abdullah Cohen!
@engineeredtruths8935
@engineeredtruths8935 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the dating is way off. History is largely false and constructed as a lie.
@user-jr4kc6lu9q
@user-jr4kc6lu9q 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerlephoque3704 The Samaritan Cohen DNA lineage is different from Jewish Cohen DNA lineages.
@tzvi7989
@tzvi7989 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the Samaritans are basically first temple Jews who have a different site for their temple
@betsyboomstein5393
@betsyboomstein5393 3 жыл бұрын
During the intifada, the Palestinian Arabs couldn't differentiate them from Jews. Israel helped them build their settlement next to their Holy mountain near Nablus. Even Samaritans attending Nablus University say that Arabs question them if they are Jews. ALL SAMARITANS have ISRAELI passports.
@yahudi9936
@yahudi9936 2 жыл бұрын
During the first intifada the Palestinian Arabs ethnically cleansed them from Nablus and they has to build a new village (Kiryat Luza) which has full time IDF presence there.
@jonatamobile9591
@jonatamobile9591 2 жыл бұрын
@@yahudi9936 man i love jews and samaritans, wanted to give my life to protect them from dogs....
@hey_niki_
@hey_niki_ Ай бұрын
This is a boldface lie. I lived in Nablus and spent time listening to lectures from the Samaritan temple and taught in a school with Samaritan kids alongside Christians and Muslims. Samaritan people hold three passports including Palestinian. They are of the same community and have lived side by side forever. The university in Nablus is called An Najah University, so it's clear your just a racist fear mongerer.
@redman9331
@redman9331 9 ай бұрын
So basically Samaritan are just ancient Hebrews who stayed in former ancient Israel kingdom after the conquest of Roman but adopted different view of ancient Hebrew religion separated from the school of thought which later became Judaism. In essence , Jews and Samaritans are same people with same religion but different sects.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 9 ай бұрын
You mean a European person raped by Slavs and Germans, along with a person who resembles the indigenous people of the Middle East
@Chuck_Carolina
@Chuck_Carolina 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew, as a Christian Elder and lay leader I really like your content and want to thank you for the permission to use it. I take some guff from time to time over my thirst for knowledge when it comes to history and archeology in some circles; us Christians, being judgmental - imagine that! Stay thirsty my friend,
@Wintermute01001
@Wintermute01001 11 ай бұрын
It's interesting how the story of the Good Samaritan was taught to me in Catholic School. It was taught as a call for ethnic and national tolerance but there was little emphasis on the *religious* differences between Jews and Samaritans, which would make the story a call for religious tolerance as well.
@adamcohen2881
@adamcohen2881 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! i am a samaritan, if you have any questions i will be more ready to answer!
@angieraftis5896
@angieraftis5896 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I was just wondering do Samartians believe in an afterlife?
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Жыл бұрын
What's your relations with Israelis and Palestinians? Who do you support more?
@RobespierreThePoof
@RobespierreThePoof 3 ай бұрын
I am mostly curious about linguistic issues and insularity, if you don't mind. Given the history of the area, I am wondering if Hebrew also survived only as a liturgical language or if there were speakers before the restoration of modern Hebrew'. I am also curious if the community is very insular. This happened in Hasidic and haredi Jewish communities in the diaspora and is one of the ways that traditions are presrved. I'm also thinking of the insularity of the Druze who survive, it seems, because they do not marry outside their ethnic group
@BrandanLee
@BrandanLee 3 күн бұрын
Is the BBQ goat as good as it looks?
@jojones4685
@jojones4685 3 жыл бұрын
I was researching the modern samaritans yesterday. What a coincidence
@valdo9737
@valdo9737 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive, objective and plausible video I've watched on the subject of the Samaritans
@bortiz11
@bortiz11 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic subject and delivery! I love learning, and your teaching skills. Thank you!
@Pogomeerschweinchen
@Pogomeerschweinchen 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this fantastic summary. This is so helpful to understand the rich history of Judaism!
@MatthewNehrling1
@MatthewNehrling1 3 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating. Thank you for posting. I'm curious about a follow up with more about the culture and how they were able to survive so long. Obviously the New Testament has a unique reference to them that is favorable.
@raysjb
@raysjb 2 ай бұрын
I think it would have been good to include mention of modern genetic analysis that shows that Samaritans are in fact descendants of Israelites, not foreign immigrants or of mixed origin.
@samernammari8785
@samernammari8785 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting fact about the contemporary Samaritan community is that they have recognized that they need to bring new blood into the community. There was an interesting newspaper article a few years ago about how the Samaritans of Mount Gerizim sent a mission to Ukraine to convert young women who were willing to convert to Samaritanism and move to Nablus so the community could be reinvigorated.
@ikkl000i
@ikkl000i 9 ай бұрын
yeah sounds more like trafficing ukrainian women cz who else is exploited more within the slawic community
@deborahdean8867
@deborahdean8867 9 ай бұрын
Supposedly they did get a group of 20 women? They learned for 6 months and then a few returned home but the rest stayed, married etc.
@chilldragon4752
@chilldragon4752 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your thoughts on Taoism. Love the videos.
@joshfranks9732
@joshfranks9732 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be cool
@garyjohnson301
@garyjohnson301 3 жыл бұрын
Taoism and Buddhism are really interesting to me
@covenawhite4855
@covenawhite4855 3 жыл бұрын
There is another You Tube Channel called "Let's Talk Religion" who discusses Taoism, Hinduism, Gnostic, and Christianity.
@jadcohen2773
@jadcohen2773 2 жыл бұрын
great documentary! im proud to be a samaritan!
@mannygutierrez7654
@mannygutierrez7654 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for educating me on this fascinating religion 😊
@sandro-eliesaad9541
@sandro-eliesaad9541 3 жыл бұрын
Huge thanks for the effort put in on this. Appreciated! (nice haircut and congrats for the new glasses btw :D )
@thebusybrownangel5829
@thebusybrownangel5829 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I see many people think of the Good Samaritan account, but this brought to mind for me the account of the woman at the well. The scriptures say the well was near a parcel of land given to Joseph by Jacob. The Samaritan woman said the well was given to them by their father Jacob. She asked Yeshua if He was greater than their father, Jacob. Yeshua stayed in Samaria and taught them for two days. He didn’t do that with gentiles.
@josephzammit8483
@josephzammit8483 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i72bp8aIms-2ZoE.html
@SPQR748
@SPQR748 3 жыл бұрын
How can two groups of people from the same area and dating back to the same era of history interpret things so differently? Santayana once said that history is a group of events that never happened, told to us by people that were not there. 🌞
@yvonnelenders5986
@yvonnelenders5986 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@drgjs58727
@drgjs58727 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is wonderful. Thanks Andrew.
@crazyviking24
@crazyviking24 3 ай бұрын
My impression from the passage in Kings is that only half the population is exiled and that the other half intermarries with the people brought in.
@friedkeenan
@friedkeenan 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so I know this isn't related to the video, but I think a video on (our theories about) Proto-Indo-European religion and how it's deduced from a combination of comparative mythology and comparative linguistics would be really really cool
@friedkeenan
@friedkeenan 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhametalijaj7838 It is indeed _fairly_ speculative, but the way you can concretely deduce that PIE people had some sort of Sky-Father from language alone is super cool. And that Rome's foundation myth of Romulus and Remus could very well have come from/influenced by one of the PIE creation myth stories where *Manu (man) kills *Yemo (twin) to create humanity and all that (Remus probably comes from *Yemo, looking at the etymological evidence) is super interesting to think about. I want Andrew to make a video on it because while reading wikipedia is fine and all, I'd like a more firmly scholarly view on stuff to help sus out the more concrete from the more speculative
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@friedkeenan Are you familiar with a KZfaq channel called "Survive the Jive"? He covers these topics a lot. He has several videos about the Indo-European concept of the soul and reincarnation, in which he pulls together quotes from Plato, Ovid, and the Buddhist scriptures to present evidence for the older concept of these things--I find that particularly fascinating.
@friedkeenan
@friedkeenan 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigscarysteve I've read that Greek mythology isn't a great source for reversing PIE religion because of its frequent interaction and melding with the near east. Anyhow, I find things that rely _solely_ on comparative mythology quite a bit less concrete than things backed up through linguistics. The example I jump to for explaining why is how stories of a flood engulfing the whole world are common throughout several disparate cultures, Indo-European and otherwise, but it would not make sense to say that they all came from one religion/mythology. However, when things are found through linguistics, it really does show rather concretely that PIE had words to describe such things as Sky-Father and lends credence to the fact that they had a god in their pantheon that fit such a role, whether or not that same figure themselves transformed into Jupiter, Zeus, etc. over the millenia
@il967
@il967 3 жыл бұрын
I know tha Dheous is the sky father of the PIE people.
@varana
@varana 3 жыл бұрын
@@friedkeenan Although that tends to isolate the PIE people in a way that we cannot prove (nor disprove). It's quite likely that the culture we can reconstruct through historical linguistics, also had been in contact with other cultures, and had been extensively influenced by others. PIE is not a pure state of origin, it's just a random snapshot of the time where our linguistic reconstruction happens to end. (Not to mention that referring to a single PIE religion is maybe oversimplifying.) The topic is really interesting, yes. I'm not sure that that level of linguistic speculation falls into RfB's field of interest, though.
@lshulman58
@lshulman58 3 жыл бұрын
6:30 "will the true Israelites please stand up." Reminds me of something I have heard regarding the Roman Catholics vs. Orthodox churches: which one is the "true" or "original" church, and which broke away? Perspective that favors ones own group is always suspect due to self-serving bias.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
They’re both the original and true church. They just split because of disagreements. But I as Catholic completely accept Orthodox Christians as the same, even if they’re not in communion with Rome.
@nickverbree
@nickverbree 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always so excited for your videos; keep up the great work!
@carolynsilvers9999
@carolynsilvers9999 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about this thanks for sharing.
@andrewmize823
@andrewmize823 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised in a household where the Bible was to be regarded as the literal, living word of God, and any attempt at reading it critically or expanding upon the rote scripture would have been generally frowned upon--so needless to say, the story of the Good Samaritan was the absolute limit to my knowledge about Samaritanism. I'm not religious anymore in the strictest sense of the word, but I do enjoy reading the Bible from a literary standpoint, and this video helped me gain insight into something I've mostly overlooked in the past.
@toocutepuppies6535
@toocutepuppies6535 3 жыл бұрын
I asked my sweet Grandma why she had changed religions so many times in her life and she told me, "I don't want to finally enter heaven and find out I belonged to the wrong church." So apparently, God has a specific church he approves of, but we all have to guess which one that is at our own perial!
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a guess, it's an investigation God does want us to go through.
@shayalynn
@shayalynn 11 ай бұрын
Church is not the correct word in my opinion. Church denotes institution or a physical building where people assemble. In the Greek Scriptures, it uses ‘ecclesia’ which means the assembly. Spiritually, it was never really about the building [who can contain the Presence of God?] but it’s about where His people are. In the first century when someone became a proselyte or converted to Judaism as Christianity wasn’t termed yet- you wouldn’t look for a building but you would look for where the assembly [the people gathered for one purpose, of one mind] was at. They usually went to each others houses and shared communion. Sadly, Catholicism claims to be the original apostolic church when the Acts of the Apostles speak for themselves, as well as the other Epistle writings. It’s sorta resembles how Echad is a Hebrew word that translates as "one" or “unity." This idea of unity - being many parts yet one unit, although echad has other nuance meanings. It’s described in Ezekiel 37, similarly, that God plans one day to bring together the two rebellion-split houses of Israel and Judah. There will not be a king in the Northern Kingdom Israel and a king in the Southern Kingdom Judah. God will take their two "sticks" or "rods" (symbols of their authority) and rejoin them as one scepter under "David," the future Messiah. I will make them an undivided nation [goy echad] in the Land . . . One single King [melech echad] will be king for all of them, And they will no longer be two nations, And they will no longer be divided into two kingdoms. (Ezek 37:22) Some believe this union of the two kingdoms is also a compound or composite unity of two parts. But that's precisely not the point here. Their once individual, self-willed identities will disappear; they will become one nation, under God, indivisible. As originally intended, the one people will be ruled by Messiah, the Echad King [melech echad].
@RorySeanWainer
@RorySeanWainer 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting ... thank you
@steveng8251
@steveng8251 2 жыл бұрын
Always impressed by your delivery.., and how you don't seem to add a slant.. Good job sir.
@CerebrumMortum
@CerebrumMortum 3 жыл бұрын
The dead sea scrolls? The Talmud itself has a portion about them having several versions of the Torah, deciding on a cannonical one, and destroying the others. You don't need the dead sea scroll to know the Hebrew Bible has been through a prolonged editorial process.
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 жыл бұрын
I read into samaritans a while ago; apparently to prevent samaritanism from dying out the government of israel was considering buying mail order brides from ukraine and russia to help them produce more children and avoid inbreeding (since they don't tend to marry with non-samaritans)
@TheEDBShow
@TheEDBShow 3 жыл бұрын
Israel didn't "buy" the brides. The Samaritan community sent out flyers inviting mail-order brides to come and convert.
@sharshabeel621
@sharshabeel621 3 жыл бұрын
The main Samaritan community isn't under Israeli jurisdiction, nor is their holy sight. The Samaritans ordered them on their own.
@deanedward2379
@deanedward2379 3 жыл бұрын
@@petarjovanovic1481 Israeli government you mean. Samaritan Israelites are valid Israeli/Jordanian/Palestinian citizens recognized by the state of Israel.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
They do have a lot of women from Eastern Europe come and convert into their faith for marriage. There aren’t many women in the community, and I read only 6 families are around now. Pretty crazy. I want to go visit them. They are the Northern Israelites spoken of in the Bible.
@ninaaden8338
@ninaaden8338 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting and contradictory how they tend to not marry with non Samaritan's, yet bring over mail order brides from ukraine
@nielsvizgan3078
@nielsvizgan3078 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! By far the best video regarding Samaritan Israelites on KZfaq
@cudgethewise
@cudgethewise 3 жыл бұрын
My word, a new favorite channel.
@myszowaty93
@myszowaty93 3 жыл бұрын
Apropos lesser known “offshoots”of Judaism I would love to see your analysis of Karaism
@daesoulae
@daesoulae 3 жыл бұрын
can we get a video on nestorianism pls?
@rogerdildeau7507
@rogerdildeau7507 2 жыл бұрын
The Samaritan were Jews who stopped accepting the evolving Hebrew religion at some point. That Hebrew religion is obsolete and those who refused to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah are now known as Jews. Biblical Judaism cannot be practiced since there is no temple, no priesthood and no sacrifice. Rabbinical Judaism was invented in the First Century AD and is based on endless discussion and argument codified in the Talmud.
@annecohen8927
@annecohen8927 9 ай бұрын
wow. I never knew anything about the Samaritans that also were known to be Israelites. I am so glad to be coming in here. to learn more.
@changer1285
@changer1285 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful thank you so much! I love learning about the diversity in isrealite religion!
@mrniceguy7168
@mrniceguy7168 3 жыл бұрын
Samaritans have always fascinated me on a genetic level, since they are ostensibly what the ancient Jews were like
@user-jr4kc6lu9q
@user-jr4kc6lu9q 3 жыл бұрын
Egyptian Karaite Jews are also genetically very close to the original Israelites -- moreso than other Jewish groups.
@otisarmyalso
@otisarmyalso 3 ай бұрын
Sicilian findings very interesting. The Temple at Gerizem is impressive structure viewed from afar... as was my privilege during visits to Israel
@John-14798
@John-14798 9 ай бұрын
*Could you please tell us about Mesopotamia, what and where was it? Thank you for creating this video, I was always so curious when watching ancient history channels of who exactly are the Samaritan’s so thank you so much.* 🙏🏾
@jacobshore
@jacobshore 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. One point of clarification. The Pentateuch manuscripts found at Qumran vary significantly from the Masoretic Pentateuch. I have studied the Dead Sea Scrolls, and while there are variants in the Bible, the Pentateuch is rather surprisingly consistent (other than in consistently spelling things slightly differently (example: vowel helper letters are added) and letter shape). I'm not sure how that would lead one to the conclusion that there was no excepted version of the Pentateuch. Are you contesting this assertion or drawing this conclusion from something else ( like variants in the Prophets and Writings?)
@porkadillo9752
@porkadillo9752 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that there are 3 very ancient versions of the Penteteuch is itself proof of the text's flexibility in ancient times. Being mostly consistent is not the same as being entirely consistent, especially where theology is concerned. There were likely many different editions of the Pentateuch that we'll never know about, and I guarantee every single one of them claimed to be the proper edition.
@tzvi7989
@tzvi7989 2 жыл бұрын
@@porkadillo9752 they likely have a common ancestor tho and diverged due to the local politics of each sect at the time
@rogerlephoque3704
@rogerlephoque3704 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon this Samaritan chappie, the one who stopped by to help when all others walked on by, sounds remarkably like a proto-Chabadnik-in-the making...
@gputsche
@gputsche 3 жыл бұрын
Really insightful! Thank you.
@georgescoresby
@georgescoresby 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good effort to explain a difficult subject. Thank you.
@ronsandahl274
@ronsandahl274 2 жыл бұрын
The difference here is that one was the religion of the Kingdom of Israel, and one was the religion of the Kingdom of Judah. Around 740 BCE when the Kingdom of Israel, whose capital was Samaria, refused to pay the homage demanded by Assyria, the Assyrians razed Samaria and took 30,000 Samaritans into bondage. A large percentage of Samaritans who were not enslaved fled Samaria to the smaller kingdom of Judah to the south. It was this influx that allowed Judah to grow from a small, agrarian kingdom to a larger, walled city-state. Judah had to combine the Samaritans beliefs (like worship of Yahweh's consort Asheroth) with their own. But the greatest difference would not emerge until after the Babylonian captivity. Around 587 BCE the Judeans, just like the Israelites before them, refused to pay the homage demanded by the new Babylonian rulers, who then razed Jerusalem and took the Judeans into slavery. The captive Judeans resided in Babylon for 60 years until being freed ironically by the Assyrians. Only 10% of the Jews living in Babylon decided to return to Jerusalem. So few returned in fact that most of Jerusalem remained in ruins for over 150 years, and Babylon had the largest Jewish population until the Middle Ages. None of the Jews who returned had ever been to Jerusalem before, and their culture and religion was vastly influenced by Babylon. This is where the difference in alphabet between Samaria and Jerusalem emerges (they both used paleo-hebrew until the return, when the Judeans began using the Babylonians script they still use today). The Jewish calendar had also been changed to match the Babylonian one (the Jewish names of the months are Babylonian, as are changing the calendar from a tool used by priests to mark festival days into what the calendar became). Modern religious archaeologist have determined that the entire unified kingdom was a fabrication, that the big Canaanite enemy had actually left Palestine during the Bronze Age Collapse, about 200 years before the founding of Israel, and that both the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were small tribal kingdoms and not large powers, with "kings" Solomon and David actually being more like tribal leaders than kings of a vast kingdom. Lastly, the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Israel technically weren't Jews. Jew is a term derived as a contraction of Judah or Judean, and so only applies to the people and culture derived from Judah. Both cultures are Hebrew, and that should be the term used in discussing them both.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 3 жыл бұрын
Not the focus of this channel, but I am curious about how the Current day relation between Samaritans and Muslims is as they don't consider Jerusalem important. I would guess it can go several ways.
@lachlanmacrae7054
@lachlanmacrae7054 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing!
@tstarr8314
@tstarr8314 3 жыл бұрын
If by current day relations you are referring to the Islamic law which protects the people of the book, the respect and protection still applies. The people of the book are those who follow revelation (the Torah, Psalms, Quran, etc) and the Smaritans follow the Torah; it's not the place of Muslims to decide theological differences between Jewish sects. The ruling about the people of the book comes directly from the Quran, so it cannot be changed. But it's also important to note that there is no Khalifa (overall ruler of Muslims and Islamic lands) and no avenue for someone to be declared Khalifa. If a Muslim government decided to discriminate against or persecute the Samaritans they would be going against the law of God as well as international human rights laws. If you mean the political relations between Muslims and Samaritans in Palestine, I think the media neglects to mention that there are Christians and other religious groups also living in Palestine who are being attacked by Israel. I don't know of any tensions between Palestinian Muslims and Palestinian Samaritans. They are both on the same side of the barbed wire fence afterall.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 3 жыл бұрын
@@tstarr8314 I'm aware of the Islamic law reasons and it is still An interesting part of their law. But the part I am interested in is the political one. I know that Palestinians aren't only Muslims, but the Samaritans seem to be a bit more different than the Christians. They can claim Israeli citizenship and appearantly wish to do so, but some still live in Palestina. They Also have no claims for Temple mountain, but say it has absolutely no religious value. So yeah, a bit weird. I'm Also unaware of tensions with this group, but wasn't aware they still existed.
@mattbonner12
@mattbonner12 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Muslims view Jerusalem as important seeing as they believe that the Dome of the Rock is where they believe that their prophet Mohammed was brought to Heaven, albeit, if I understand correctly, Mecca is a more important for them. If you meant the Samaritans though, that would be pretty interesting not only on a political aspect but even a religious one.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattbonner12 yeah, the Dome of the rock is important for Muslims and a topic of debat with Jews as they (Generalizing) want to rebuild their Temple on that place. I find the Samaritan perspective interesting as they give no value to that mountain, so to them the Dome of the rock van just stay.
@kylesty6728
@kylesty6728 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful as always.
@stargatis
@stargatis 3 жыл бұрын
Loving your voice and calm tone🙂
@mosesmanaka8109
@mosesmanaka8109 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus had a particular love for the Samaritans who although were seen as outcasts by Jews and who had no dealings with them, Jesus often lifted the Samaritans up in status in his parables and interaction as the type whom GOD choses to enter his Heavenly Kingdom, like the Samaritan woman at the well. Jesus uses this outcast woman who was an outcast of an outcast to illustrate the abundant love of GOD for people who even choses to love her. She like many other socalled outcasts like the Tax Collectors, Prostitutes and Gentiles entered GOD's Kingdom not made of stone and mortar but was found in the hearts of his adopted children on earth.
@jeanfalconer6377
@jeanfalconer6377 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this re-contextualises The Good Samaritan in an entirely different way, thank you.
@NovaSaber
@NovaSaber 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's the original, correct context. The point of the story was that you should be kind to anyone who's kind to you, regardless of ethnic or religious differences. FAR too many Christians throughout history have missed the point.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 3 жыл бұрын
@@NovaSaber yes, it’s crazy to me how that seems to have gone over people’s heads here.
@MB-Music23
@MB-Music23 Жыл бұрын
Yesssss! Great synopsis!
@JM-qi5dm
@JM-qi5dm 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! More please!
@thesinfultictac5704
@thesinfultictac5704 3 жыл бұрын
The fact the Jerusalem, Tel Shiloh, and Mt.Garaziem all were contenders for El's favor points to a much more complicated history of Israelites, and their Canaanite history.
@cherieamour671
@cherieamour671 2 жыл бұрын
My grands mothers were Samaritains, I never being interested by Samartanism. However I wonder if Jersim and jerusalem are not the same word said with differents accents, this is just my opinion I have not much historical nor religious knowledge. The Samaritian are a very old Nation I doubt they have any Iranian origine, they are true Semtic race. Samaritains are the old version of the israelites. However I am very relaxed about religion difference, I do sincerely to respect every one in his beleive.
@homebrandrules
@homebrandrules Жыл бұрын
fascinating, todah
@hereBDBD
@hereBDBD 2 жыл бұрын
so many stories within stories...beautiful. thank you...
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