Reloading for the .577/450 Martini-Henry

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In this video, Eric goes over the painstaking process to load your own black powder ammunition for the antique 1880's era .577/450 Martini-Henry rifle. Loading this ammo is a labor of love, but will save you a large sum of money in the long run over buying commercial loadings at over $10+ per round, when you can find it.
Equipment Overview: 00:03:00
Trimming & Initial Setup: 00:08:36
Case Annealing: 00:10:39
Case Forming: 00:14:01
Final Case Trimming: 00:22:17
Final Case Forming Operation: 00:24:07
Testing Brass Fitment: 00:26:31
Bullet Sizing: 00:29:37
Case Neck Expanding: 00:32:17
Powder Charging: 00:33:08
Adding Polyfil and Paper Disk: 00:35:15
Adding Wax Plug: 00:38:55
Bullet Seating and Completed Round: 00:42:14
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@Iraqveteran8888 Жыл бұрын

Equipment Overview: 00:03:00 Trimming & Initial Setup: 00:08:36 Case Annealing: 00:10:39 Case Forming: 00:14:01 Final Case Trimming: 00:22:17 Final Case Forming Operation: 00:24:07 Testing Brass Fitment: 00:26:31 Bullet Sizing: 00:29:37 Case Neck Expanding: 00:32:17 Powder Charging: 00:33:08 Adding Polyfil and Paper Disk: 00:35:15 Adding Wax Plug: 00:38:55 Bullet Seating and Completed Round: 00:42:14

@mountainshootingrangevlog Жыл бұрын

ERIC sir please watch my MELTDOWN BERETTA EPISODE 3 I made this video inspired buy you im your big FAN

@thomaswhite7972 Жыл бұрын

You used the term impulse properly. What have you not told us Eric?

@ClassicFormulaOne1 Жыл бұрын

In the Netherlands I am reloading as well for my 1886 Martini-Henry mk4. Great gun with a great history. The cartridges are really large and big, on the gunrange people are amazed by the size haha.

@rover8772 Жыл бұрын

Not only the size of the cartridge.. What about the big bang and puff of smoke from one of these!

@royalwins2030 Жыл бұрын

That's cool that you are able to do that in the Netherlands.

@jimvandemoter6961 Жыл бұрын

The only reloading I ever did was 9mm, .38sp and .357mag. All very basic rounds. I did everything on a Lee single stage press. I grew to enjoy loading almost as much as shooting the rounds I loaded. I spent many hours having quiet time. One big difference I found was I could load rounds that worked better in my guns than any factory ammo. I could tailor the rounds for maximum performance. I had to give it up when I moved into senior housing (I'm 70 years old.) I do miss it and I recommend loading as a great rewarding hobby. Cool video Eric.

@garydutko119 5 ай бұрын

Eric, Although I am not a reloader I found this video very educational. I gave my son a 1875 Martini Henry rifle as a gift. BTW, We love the movie ZULU. I bought the rifle from Atlantic Cutlery and it was specially selected from the Nepal find. The rifle was cleaned and fired by a professional gunsmith. We had ammo from Ten X but it was all lost in a house fire in 2021, Now searching for ammo to replace what we lost. Fortunately, the rifle and bayonet are now in a gun safe.

@kenibnanak5554 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for revisiting this topic. I was dismayed when you last video about this cartridge suddenly vanished. I like to anneal my brass again after the final sizing. I like the white cloud polyester fill produces. Much safer than glowing embers of cotton puffs too. Noting with interest your going for waxed lube bullets vs paper patched rounds. I find paper patched bullets leave a barrel that is easier to get clean, but then again paper patching each bullet is a lot more work. I did a video a few years ago about converting Kynoch brass to use 209 shotgun powders, but I agree brass with primer pockets already set up for standard primers is a lot easier, and old Kynoch cases sometimes split on their first firing anyway (also with extensive hang fires from the old primers and decomposed cordite) as well as getting harder to find economically

@johnny-james Жыл бұрын

This video is the gold standard of what it means to be passionate about the reloading science. ⭐⭐🌟⭐⭐

@davegreenleaf5272 Жыл бұрын

Glad to see this video come back!

@borisptitsyn2130 Жыл бұрын

i love reloading so much. i love learning about ballistics, calibers and cartridges. god bless and keep up the good work.

@stevevanness8274 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for re-uploading the full version of this! Much appreciated.

@stonerman15 Жыл бұрын

Glad to keep watching your videos and seeing your influence on the community. Thanks for your service as well.

@maxkraus9614 Жыл бұрын

Holy cow! Very excited to see the reloading videos make a return to KZfaq. Look at that youthful Eric 😉

@brycemcneely9021 Жыл бұрын

This information will probably never be useful to me but man this is so interesting. Thank you for making videos like this. Makes my day

@justbrowsing8304 Жыл бұрын

Great video Eric. Love to see you doing content like this.

@CorwinBos Жыл бұрын

Good to see this video come back. Nice work Eric!

@fredford7642 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your tips on forming the .577/.450 brass, it is very similar to my making 45-75 brass from .348 Winchester, I'm sure the annealing process is quite similar, as well as the the case forming. Great video!

@danieldick7501 Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah! I was looking for the video you did years ago as I just bought a MH a week ago. And now I see today you've posted this. Awesome!

@scaler1179 Жыл бұрын

I love reloading. I have never done black powder cartridges though. This makes me want to try it though. These type of videos are some of my favorites. As well as the gun restoration. Thanks Eric.

@teotwawki00 Жыл бұрын

Sit back, relax, and enjoy the process. Thanks Eric.

@crazyboyzzz1277 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I love the reloading videos you do Eric you should do more if you have the time

@johnmcmunn3827 Жыл бұрын

First Rate step by step process review with understandable detail when needed ... 10/10

@mr.horseshoe2301 Жыл бұрын

Just started reloading and I love it. Its like graduating to the next tier of the gun/shooting hobby. Learned everything I know from all the KZfaq reloaders. Very thankful for all of you sharing your knowledge. Now I'm getting ready for the next tier: bullet casting.

@UpNAtomStudios Жыл бұрын

I can’t tell you how much I’ve wanted this video

@beardannyboy Жыл бұрын

GLAD TO SEE YOU RE-COVER THIS ONE

@inrangerimfire20two Жыл бұрын

What an awesome video! Thanks a lot for putting this together. I have enjoyed all the videos about this cool old rifle

@PlayerSalt Жыл бұрын

Man i usto really enjoy this channels reloading videos back in the day , didn't think they did them anymore so nice to see

@rangirua1 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video mate. Very informative. Just what I was looking for. Cheers

@MilsurpDuo Жыл бұрын

Glad to see this is finally back posted on KZfaq

@JR9979 Жыл бұрын

I agree. missed this vid for a while.

@MilsurpDuo Жыл бұрын

im going to be doing a video on my channel this coming winter on loading 577 martini and snider. I do a lot of milsurp firearms content

@boingkster Жыл бұрын

Very nice! I've tooled up with Bertram cases, FFg powder and I'm using the Lee 459-405-HB mold with wheel weights. It drops at .462" and seems to work just fine. Keep up the awesome work, hi from downunda!

@the_last_rangefinder_society Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Thankyou

@paulvenn4447 Жыл бұрын

FINALLY THIS VIDEO IS BACK!!! Have been asking about this for months! No idea why it disappeared last time but glad it's back. Thank you Eric!!!

@LarryBirdsJumpshot Жыл бұрын

KZfaq took down all of his videos pertaining to reloading for whatever reason. Happy to see it back and hope they back off in the future.

@danielcurtis8746 Жыл бұрын

This is awesome Eric, I've never had to fireform or do brass like that since I've reloaded. Great video as always

@Hatch61 Жыл бұрын

Every Sunday morning I go out to my reloading shed and do some reloading while watching Hickok 45’s Sunday Shoot-a-round, followed by your LLP. When you guys are done, so am I. Great videos, thanks.

@solomongrundy9735 Жыл бұрын

I've reloaded this some, it's definitely a labor of love.

@johnt7905 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting, thanks for the upload

@djinfreemind1966 Жыл бұрын

Glad you reposted this info. I could not find your old one. I ended up passing on a nice Martini because I wasn't sure about making the ammo.

@rednecksniper4715 Жыл бұрын

Glad to see these coming back on KZfaq hope they get to stay up this time if not they’re still on bumble

@brendanmaier1770 Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah man I miss the old IV8888 vids of reloading and deep cleaning. Comfy time

@paulvenn4447 Жыл бұрын

The OG vids, it's what got me into reloading 54R.

@brendanmaier1770 Жыл бұрын

@@paulvenn4447 me too, started with mosin reloads and watching the complete takedowns of the mosin and martini really got me into surp restoration and makin the old girls talk again. Latest reloads are 30-40 been a fun learning experience

@erroneous6947 Жыл бұрын

Love your reloading stuff. My favorite video of yours is the pumpkin ball slugs for 12ga. Easy to do.

@Andy152R 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate the video, brother. I picked up an Enfield Snider .577 and a Royal Kabul Armory Martini while in Afghanistan. I just recently bought dies for both and got my Magtech shells in the other day. My wife has never shot the Enfield I bought her. I did find some 1930's Kynoch 577/450 years ago. I never thought these two rifles would be anything more than a wall decoration in our living room. 😊

@RobertCraft-re5sf 2 ай бұрын

Such a cool old rifle.

@vomitingwithungodlyaccurac3218 Жыл бұрын

I will never turn down a niche reloading video!

@TexasLeverGunner Жыл бұрын

Great vid Eric, thanks for putting another one up. This is the type of content I love. If I didn't have Snider lust so bad I'd have a few Martini's but I can't seem to stop with the Sniders. One of these days.

@rjoetting7594 Жыл бұрын

Good video I enjoyed it, I've been loading BP cartridges for quite a few years now but never the martini Henry. 45-70, 45-120, 45 colt, 32-40, 38-55, ect... One of nice things about black powder cartridges is that if you take proper care of your cases they will last hundreds of rounds, unlike modern smokeless high pressure cartridges.

@meatheadjose2856 Жыл бұрын

nice job ,

@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 Жыл бұрын

Labor of love

@craigsteinkamp12 Жыл бұрын

Hoping this one is backed up to Rumble or other platforms. I was hoping for a video on this topic after the Martini videos. Thanks Eric!

@LarryBirdsJumpshot Жыл бұрын

Not sure if you know but this is actually an old video. Pretty much all of his reloading videos were taken down by KZfaq. So I'm guessing he's starting to get them back and they're backing off of him which is great

@andyherzfeld9492 Жыл бұрын

Very well done video on the loading for the Martini Henry. I have two of them and have actually shot some of the original Kynoch loads for it, not recommended. I like the bullet you cast for it because I am paper patching my bullets for it which is a whole nother thing. I have used black powder and smokeless loads for it based on load data I have found. The smokeless works really well because black powder is just now becoming available again. I load for this and the .577 Snider which is also awesome. I have also tried to form brass for the Martini but kept creasing the brass and I like your process which the key is annealing I think. This is one of the more difficult rounds to reload for and you obviously have a very good process for it. The video was very helpful.

@jeremiah7855 Жыл бұрын

Love your reloading videos and gun smiting would love to see more of both your my by far favorites contact curator

@MichaelRoachDavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@beercheersrccrawlers Жыл бұрын

I have never seen reloading other than shotgun. GREAT tutorial!!! I feel I could almost do this and I know how to run mills and lathes..attention to detail is where most fail. I will stick to the big box companies till then. Really good info!

@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194 Жыл бұрын

Great video thank you.

@gyrfalcon-6 Жыл бұрын

I have a martini and I want to make the ammo for it but I know you must get it right or things could go bad so I’m very excited for this been waiting a few years since your first martini Henry video came out

@arisveresies5388 Жыл бұрын

Saving this to watch tomorrow. But if I remember well you had an older video (or two) about this.

@condelaneycd Жыл бұрын

The history of the gun interesting con from Ireland 🇮🇪.

@zaca952 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I was wondering where this went

@InCognito-yq5ew Жыл бұрын

TAIG Micro Lathe? Thank you for sharing all the knowledge Eric!

@philippefrater2000 Жыл бұрын

What a lesson! Thanks a lot! 🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

@maytheus Жыл бұрын

Love that LaRue sticker at 11:40!

@michaelkinstler1755 Жыл бұрын

Great video, loved watching you form the cases. When I first got the itch to shoot my M-H's in 1982, only brass I could find at the time was I think from Australia and $100 for a box of 20. Lyman dies. I think my mold came from England and was sized to make a proper paper patched bullet. I've never seen a British military or even British commercial load that had a bare lead bullet without patching on the 577-450. Tried once with lead sized to the bore and accuracy was much worse, that rifling really does like a patched bullet. Be interested to see how your shooting goes. We used to take a press that would clamp to the table at the range, powder and pre-lubed and patched bullets in an old cigar box. Great job.

@TheDandyMann Жыл бұрын

I bought a Gahendra rifle because of you. I tried cleaning it up and make it look like the Zulu skin from Battlefield 1. Sadly I lost the guts and the wood when I moved out of my apartment and was never able to finish it. And now there aren't any more Gahendra rifles on IMA sadly. The stylized lever was my favorite part of that rifle. When I have more money I'm gonna get a proper long lever martini and hopefully get one that can shoot and then use this vid to start shooting.

@travisauthement2454 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting out quality informative content. Now let’s see the Martini-Henry melt down lol

@nv8409 Жыл бұрын

That's a lot more work than using the Dillon Precision RL1100. But then again, I have no dies or brass for the Martini ... thank you, that was a lot of fun to watch

@pointlagrange4823 Жыл бұрын

The .577 Snyder is a beast. Even if it is a black-powder cartridge, it is still a monster.

@austingoebel5389 Жыл бұрын

Y’all should do a review of the .577-450 adapter to .45 Colt. It’s just a metal cartridge with a hole for the Colt round to fit so you can fire your martini a lot easier.

@lamarpowell5168 9 ай бұрын

Enjoyed this immensely. I think Ross Seyfried was using juice carton for wads for BP express loads back in the day, with wax in the stack, too.

@mykolagolovko Жыл бұрын

Got the notification while jogging and for a second thought it said "Rollerblading for/with the .577/450 Martini-Henry". I kept picturing that for the rest of the run and chuckling.

@NotAMathAsian Жыл бұрын

Finally, some reloading content!

@doronstauber7285 Жыл бұрын

Very informative Video, Thanks!! Is the process of repriming a spent casing similar to the process of priming a new casing like what you featured here?

@RealSeanSchumacher Жыл бұрын

I was just wondering whatever happend to the video of you loading these rounds, good to see its back up

@hobbz4921 Жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video Erik! Thanks for the great content. One question, can you reload those shells after you fire them? Wondering how they look after they have been fired...

@jacksonthompson7099 Жыл бұрын

Yes you can, Rob over on the British muzzle loaders channel uses a water tumbler with steel pins to clean his 577/450 martini henry cases.

@ceqt1490 Жыл бұрын

@iv8888 hey Eric, love the content. I was wondering if I could use some 7.62 nagant revolver bullets pulled from surplus ammo to fire form brass in any of my .311 bore guns? I remember you mentioning something to this effect before and I was just wanting to verify if this is a sound idea? Thanks 😊

@vanillagorilla9841 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video, you may have said in the video but I was wondering how many reloads can you get out of one of the newly formed cases you just made?

@cwatson42785 Жыл бұрын

Eric you never indexed the different parts in the description or comments? Very cool video and I appreciate it

@justinjaquet9863 Жыл бұрын

You should make a similar video on making 577 snider rounds! Just a suggestion.

@SouthMissRifleman Жыл бұрын

You should do this same type of video for 43 Dutch Beaumont I bought a Beaumont about six years ago after seeing your reloading video and shooting videos of one and I have not found a decent reload yet or source of ammunition and I don’t know if your original reloading videos are still available I haven’t been able to find them up

@TheLawDawg Жыл бұрын

So nice to have some old-school IV8888 content. I first started watching you many years ago when this stuff was your main product. Feels like coming home again.

@rickyokogawa6154 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I’m having to reload 7.7 Arisaka myself. You should do a collaboration w/British Muzzleloader.

@cwatson42785 Жыл бұрын

Can you reload the brass you fabricated? Sorry if that's a dumb question but I'm totally new to handloading

@Sman7290 Жыл бұрын

I can't find the video you did years ago on loading for the Dutch Beaumont. Can you re-release it?

@TheJazwald54 Жыл бұрын

Hello sir what die did you use to form the brass to the 577450 was it the decapping and sizing die in a set for the round or a differnet die and if possible can you provide a link. Hello from lake george ny btw

@richardrepp8588 Жыл бұрын

Eric, the videos are great but I need to know why my cartridges are crimping. I have annealed mine and I go very slow but I keep getting the crimps at the start of the shoulder. Any advice?

@HeirloomFirearms Жыл бұрын

Is this a repost? I feel like I’ve seen this before.

@Riyame Жыл бұрын

Wasn't this video released before? I could swear it came out back when you did the initial break down and degunking of the rifles

@pacman10182 Жыл бұрын

are you able to get primers for a half sane price down there?

@timdake 9 ай бұрын

38:00 - Regarding "poly fill"... Which is basically a plastic, and can foul the barrel. There are several reputable reloaders that have recommended organic silk or cotton, for fill material.

@alainwelonek5972 Жыл бұрын

Great video very educational Can I use 85gr 2 fs schuetzen black powder instead of Swiss powder

@harryjeppe5460 Жыл бұрын

Yes you can.

@user-bs4lj2to5e Жыл бұрын

yes / in iraq arab use black powder for old gun

@detinator5 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff! Now do a comprehensive reloading video for the Schmidt Rubin M1889 :) I know you went through it in your video but a dedicated video for the reloading process would be so good.

@DymondzTrucking1962 Жыл бұрын

Every time I pull out the martini Henry and start lobbing lead at the range everybody comes over wondering what I'm shooting. It's not an easy cartridge to reload for but it sure is fun.

@pjbarney9580 Жыл бұрын

does that polyfill stuff melt or get stuck to the bore or brass?...

@casadewaffle3162 Жыл бұрын

Did you still have room for the cardboard disc and wax plug when loading 600gr bullets?

@faxxy4077 Жыл бұрын

Can y'all do a .41 Swiss reloading video? There's barely any information on my 1869/73 out there and I've been dying to find a reliable source on brass making and cartridge spec. Another one on top of that would be the .43 Mauser, but that's a whole can of worms in comparison since each 1871 Mauser variant varies drastically from one-another

@mattyallen3396 Жыл бұрын

As a member of the British Empire. I demand its return!!

@oldiesaregoldies3511 Жыл бұрын

I'm getting boer commando vibes from his bandolier in the beginning. Freudian slip?

@Bogie3855 2 ай бұрын

Peabody invented it but Martini improved it and made it much stronger.

@SpaceTrucker91 Жыл бұрын

With the thinner wall on those shell hulls how many times could they be used? Kind of a dumb question but I gotta ask…

@paulvenn4447 Жыл бұрын

Compared to the original designated cases, a lot more. Compared to modern Australian made brass probably not as many.

@givemethemusicd Жыл бұрын

Big fan of ginsboy2003.

@terrybrown5402 Жыл бұрын

Im sure someone enjoys this content but the vast majority of us do not have martini henrys. Hopefully youll do some more common calibers too.

@zeb3144 8 ай бұрын

Here in UK, 577/450 brass is expensive at £9 ($11) each. The calibre is classed as obsolete so none is available off the shelf and rifles can be owned by anyone.