Relocating the battery in the MK4 GTI
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6 жыл бұрынIn today's episode, we'll be relocating the MK4 GTI's battery to the hatch. We'll also rebuild the fuse panel that used to live on top of it. This addresses a common MK4 issue, helps with weight distribution and also cleans up the engine bay. Sweet!
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~~~ parts used in this video ~~~
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@Randomsheit 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, very useful thank you
@supercarmio 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, glad it helped you! Still one of my favorite mods on my MK4 👍
@jazzlogan8671 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, thank you for making such a simple and well-spoken how-to video and second, this is the sweetest, cleanest set up I've seen. Thanks again,
@jazzlogan8671 3 жыл бұрын
Also do you still have the make and model of the distribution blocks?
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
🙌 Thanks man, really appreciate the kind words! Sure thing, here you are: Stinger SPD512 PRO (T-Block), Stinger SHD821 HPM (PDB)
@jazzlogan8671 3 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio Thanks brother
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzlogan8671 anytime!
@Paowderlol 4 жыл бұрын
Happy I came across your video, i was about to go ahead with it and stumbled on yours, needless to say I have the products you mentioned on order simply because of how well you explained and took your time, and how clean this looks. Thanks! Great work, and keep it up!
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing compliment! Glad it helped you out and good luck with your project! 🙌
@localcardude9822 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the content! Definitely a sweet mod.
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Glad it helped out
@spcdegrace 3 жыл бұрын
damn these links for parts are still good years later. lets goooooooo
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
love when that happens 😂👍👍
@slaughtertwo Жыл бұрын
This video really helped me get over my wall.. thank you very much.
@supercarmio Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching :)
@mcleanmartel 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very clean install. Very nicely done. I would recommend running an additional wire back to the battery to wire the distribution block in series with the battery. This will allow power from the block to be pulled from the battery and allow the voltage regulator to have the battery to be charged correctly. Wired how it currently is will not have enough load on the regulator to give the correct charge to the battery.
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Thanks for the tip as well, I'll look into that!
@jonahshernandez7080 3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you draw this out? And send it through email JonahsHernandez@gmail.com or this chat. I’m very interested and somewhat confused on what you mean. and I’m in the process of moving my battery to the back so it would be very helpful. Ty
@NoReverse77 Жыл бұрын
This was my only thought. Everything else is awesome. I wonder if the fuse block could be placed somewhere else also.
@wc4260 Жыл бұрын
doing this on my tdi. Thanks for the parts list.
@supercarmio Жыл бұрын
You got it :) Good luck, it's a fun little project!
@matthewlee2686 5 жыл бұрын
Great video .
@supercarmio 5 жыл бұрын
matthew lee thank you sir 🙌
@dragandubaic1938 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man amazing step by step video! I was just wondering what you did with the negative terminal wire? From the engine/transmission to the ground under the tray, did you then run it back to the battery or connect it somewhere else? Once again, amazing video!
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate it man! 🙏 I left that ground strap connected from the engine/trans to the chassis and that’s it 👍
@porkchop1231001 Жыл бұрын
What 110 amp fuses did you use I’ve been looking and can’t find any
@zedaxm 3 жыл бұрын
nice informative video Sir... just want to clear one thing if you don't mind, @12:48 , what u did with the ground terminal in the engine bay? you already grounded the battery in the boot right, then why there is another ground cable in the engine bay? thank u...
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks friend! That's just the existing ground strap that was bundled with the battery ground. The other side connects to the engine/transmission. Essentially just another ground point for the engine to the chassis.
@wonghunglo2116 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video very informative. Does the spare wheel cover fit and lay flat over the battery? If not is there a shorter battery that would work so the battery is completely hidden?
@supercarmio 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes it does fit! If you wanted to conserve more space, you could go w/ a smaller form factor battery, maybe Miata size. Would depend on your electrical requirements though
@Eddy-th3kc 4 жыл бұрын
Realy Nice job, it would be Nice if You relocate or hide that fuso panel, will be só much clean 👍
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah definitely, there's lot of spots you could hide it if wanted. 👍👍
@michaelwilliams5896 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid!!
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it!
@michaelwilliams5896 2 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio I do have a question I’m looking for a vid or post on hooking up a catch can on a mk4 Jetta 2.0l avh Can u help?! Thanks
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwilliams5896 I'm not well versed with that engine - but from what I can tell you should have a PCV near your MAF which has a breather connection coming in from the valve cover. A catch can would go in between that connection.
@thatcarjunkie9358 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man love the video. I was wondering where you got the plastic base from for the fuses, thinking about doing this to my VR6
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!! I think I ordered it on Amazon, just searched for ABS plastic sheet, 1/4" thickness IIRC. Frikin love VR6s, one day I'll have one!
@AnoniMArtShowPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
good video man ... i should clean the area where the battery was in the engine bay also you shoud put some protected cover nut on the screw under the car , for water protection .
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
🙌 That's a great point. Thanks man, appreciate it!
@videonow32 2 жыл бұрын
Love this setup, great work. I am getting the parts to do my audi TT. What I am confused about is the dimensions of the Stinger SHD823 block. Most pages say it is 6x5.5 inches, is that correct? Looks smaller in your engine bay. Trying to work out space before parts arrive...thanks
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the kind words man 🙌 I’d be happy to help. it sounds like that might be the shipping dimensions. just measured one and it is ~3.5in x 2.5in
@videonow32 2 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio That is more like it, super, thank you very much, helps a lot. Just couldn't believe it was that big..
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
@@videonow32 you got it!
@spcdegrace 3 жыл бұрын
okay so i ordered basically everything you ordered except i went with a box that fits an optima red top 34 series instead. figured if i just got a sealed battery then i shouldnt have to worry about having a sealed box should make it to where the battery can fit in tighter places
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man that makes sense - good luck with the install!
@tylercarter2950 2 жыл бұрын
Hey so I’d like to do this same project to my GTI. Looking up the parts for it, the Stinger SHD821 HPM Series MANL/MIDI doesn’t seem to available and nor do they know when it will be back in stock. Could you recommend a different fuse box to use? I’m not very electrical savvy so idk if something like the KCT ANL will work the same or if the same fuses will work fine with it. Great tutorial video though, it makes me feel like I can take on this project without having much electrical knowledge.
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Sorry for the delayed response. Glad the video was helpful! From a quick search, it seems like this block should be similar (although quite a bit pricier) - www.sonicelectronix.com/item-153539-Wet-Sounds-WWX-FUSE-DIST-BLOCK.html
@andresmiranda8729 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can get those plugs where the spare tire sit on? I am missing all 3 plugs under there
@anthonymatteis1319 4 жыл бұрын
That's dope.
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
🙌Thanks my dude!
@richymoreno2567 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!! Gotta try this on my MK1 TT... Everything is still running good?
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yep, it's been awesome. Great peace of mind and much cleaner under the hood. One of my favorites mods to date 👍👍
@nikoniko6891 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I just got a question What happened with alternator wire what go from alternator
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's still connected to the fuse panel, last connection on the top box, 125a. 👍👍
@videonow32 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I have another question, I did it a little differently, but used the same fuse blocks. They are not really sealed at all, have you had any issues with moisture of condensation? Have they held up well, did you do anything more to try and seal the fuse boxes, thanks...great video and love the fuse holders.
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great feedback! The holders do come with a plastic piece that snaps on top, but like you said, they are not 100% sealed. I haven't had any issues TBH, but I guess you could probably add some weather striping or double sided foam around the perimeter if you were having issues. It's been a few years now and they are holding up great for me!
@videonow32 2 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio Thank you for the reply...
@user-ir4pw5ne1k 6 жыл бұрын
Good.
@jimkienholz9905 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but I just found it and I am ordering the stuff for my Jetta. You say in the video (2) 110 amp wires in the fuse box. Are you using a 125 amp fuse? I cant seem to find a 110 amp fuse for those fuse blocks.
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, ended up running 125a fuses. Thanks for watching!
@jimkienholz9905 2 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio spectacular. Everything is ordered for this mod. Thanks for making a great video that is clear and concise.
@evanharden7374 Жыл бұрын
Just curious on your thoughts since I haven’t seen it asked yet. Could you locate your fuse panel in the trunk with the battery rather than in the engine bay by running the wire coming off the starter back through?
@supercarmio Жыл бұрын
Yeah I believe you could -- downside is that you'd have to run additional wiring. I think it's more common to have a feed come up to the front and then split off from there. Also instead of just worrying about one line potentially shorting to ground (in the case it was damaged), you would then have to consider the wires coming from the fuse panel in the rear as well. Just my quick thoughts though - good question!
@derekthebeast123 3 жыл бұрын
2:29 You didn’t cover the ground cable under the battery at all, completely skipped over it ! What did you do to ground your starter ? Still not starting
@Behnnnn 4 жыл бұрын
What did you use to bolt into the original spare tire holder? Happen to know what treading would work? Great info 🤛🏻
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍Thanks man! I had a bolt laying around, I believe it was M8x1.25 but not 100% sure.
@Behnnnn 4 жыл бұрын
supercarmio thanks for taking the time to reply
@Dillvn 2 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the original ground cable with the smaller grounds that bolt there?
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the ground strap that goes to the engine/transmission? I left it there.
@zackreiger8447 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yea dude
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
🙌
@MrMobblyfe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do this to my MK4 Jetta. Have you had any problems with the rebuilt fuse panel?
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
I have not, it's been solid for me!
@doctorlobsteroctopus 6 жыл бұрын
Can legitimately say I'm the first viewer on something..surely I must win a prize from youtube or something haha! Glad to see another Mk4 episode man, interesting that the battery relocation is a common mod, but it totally makes sense.
@supercarmio 6 жыл бұрын
haha seriously, you should! thanks man! I should've done it sooner ;)
@rageplayer4814 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I blew my starter leaving the battery grounded while doing this project. Everything is according to this video now with brand new starter. The car still won’t start, can you please let me know what are some common issues with shorting and why it will no longer start? Brand new battery brand new coil pack. Multimeter reads no voltage drops between connections. Every connection is 12.8v or higher, the starter receives power until I attempt to start it then it drops to .80v
@c-kb-dog567 2 жыл бұрын
At 12min45sec hes says now lets hook up that ground connections
@c-kb-dog567 2 жыл бұрын
Im looking onto it let me know I want to know too cause I was wondering I didnt start it yet but I was triggered by the fact thatI didnt have this ground anymore
@jonahshernandez7080 3 жыл бұрын
Can I put all the connections all on one distribution block? Or does it have to be split for power or amperage?
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the block you go with you certainly could. This particular one has an amperage rating of 300a iirc, so I felt more comfortable splitting my circuit into two.
@jamesbrady4261 4 жыл бұрын
Did you upgrade the alternator wire to a 0 gauge or did you leave it stock?
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
James Brady I left it as is. I did replace the starter wire as it’s right next to this panel and I had some extra 0 gauge. 👍
@epgaynor 3 жыл бұрын
Does the trunk cover still fit over the battery box? How big of battery do you have and any slow cranking ever? I have a ~400 CCA battery in my Mk4 trunk and i always want to go bigger but have limited space
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
yep, the cover still fits, when it's on you can't really tell anything is underneath. h5 battery and it's been great - no difference at all in terms of cranking, etc. 👍👍
@epgaynor 3 жыл бұрын
supercarmio Thanks for the info!
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
@@epgaynor anytime!
@jonathanreal2981 5 жыл бұрын
Do the wires from the original fuse box go in any specific order when rewiring them?
@supercarmio 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, you can do it in whichever order you like - just make sure to protect them w/ the same amperage fuses they originally had.
@MauriceNL1 4 жыл бұрын
11:09 is that a aftermarket light switch. I never saw one like that ever!
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
haha no, nothing special. Maybe you don't recognize it because it's the standard US spec? No fancy rear fog lights or anything like you'd see in a euro switch for example.
@MauriceNL1 4 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio most cars have off, parking lights and low beams. And some newer cars have AUTO. But yours does not have parking lighrs
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
@@MauriceNL1 Yeah, mine seems much simpler in comparison. Thanks for the info
@miguelangel9708 Жыл бұрын
Any issues with this set up since you installed the battery in the back
@supercarmio Жыл бұрын
Not at all, still running it to this day!
@ryanenglish5090 4 жыл бұрын
I can't find the 110 amp fuse you mention in the video. got any advice?
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
I would probably go with a 125amp fuse. Looks like it's available on Amazon 👍
@ryanenglish5090 4 жыл бұрын
I've ordered all the parts. What's the approximate size of the black plastic base?
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just measured it - it's about 9"x6" 👍
@jaymst7889 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Did you overlap the positive cables coming from the starter motor?
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you have the power coming from the battery directly to the starter and then another wire on top that is going to the fuse panel. 👍
@jaymst7889 2 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio brill thankyou. Just done mine and didnt order enough cable. Got the rear fuse installed, main cable installed to the starter just waiting for another length to arrive so i can go from the starter to the t piece and then to the fuses. Ive already chopped the wires and installed the fuses and boxes. Have you had any problems with the alternator not charging the battery? Read one the comments mentioning running negative back to the battery in the trunk to allow full power? ? Just following your video and the steps. What you have done Thankyou
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaymst7889 np! Awesome, sounds like you are almost there. I haven't had a single issue, it's been doing quite well. cheers
@nosliving786 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have to be split into 2 sets of blocks or could you have one block that holds all 8 ?
@supercarmio 5 жыл бұрын
You can definitely use one block! Just make sure it can support the amount of load you'll be putting through it. You can also omit the Y splitter if you find a big enough block. Good luck!
@gandyortiz4414 3 жыл бұрын
Wait the little fuse u have to prevent battery damage does it come with the box?
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the fuse holder near the battery? If so, usually it does not come with the fuse itself. So you'd need the fuse holder and the ANL fuse to go with it. 👍
3 жыл бұрын
did you make that fuse terminal supporting plate? or do you have a link?
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just made it out of some ABS plastic. I cut out a rectangle and drilled out some holes for mounting.
3 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio best battery relocation mod. Very clean bud
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
@ Thanks man, I really appreciate that 🙌
@Nate6133 3 жыл бұрын
hey can you clarify the ground side in the engine bay for me? looks like another 1.0g wire but im not sure where that came from
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
sure thing! there should be a ground going from the battery negative terminal to the body (underneath the battery tray) and then another going to the transmission.
@Nate6133 3 жыл бұрын
supercarmio ok cool, thanks man, I thought so but I though I may have missed something. Great video by the way. Going to do a similar setup on my car. Very clean looking
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nate6133 anytime man! appreciate the kind words. it's one of my favorite mods to date. let me know how it turns out! 👍👍
@tnanofox 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, how many amps is the battery fuse you're running? Thanks. Nice relocation
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am running a 200 amp fuse 👍👍
@tnanofox 4 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio thank you so much!
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Guillermo G.V. anytime 👍
@super60city Жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio You said in your video that it was a 250a. Did you change to a 200a fuse? For what reason? Just want to make sure I'm using the right one lol
@supercarmio Жыл бұрын
@@super60city No worries! I've used both w/o any issue, I have done this type of modification on all my cars pretty much. Sorry for the confusion!
@tylercarter2950 Жыл бұрын
Did you use a 125amp fuse for the 110 wires?
@supercarmio Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I ended up running 125a fuses there.
@super60city Жыл бұрын
Glad you asked, I couldn't find any 110a fuses anywhere lol
@chriswise6374 2 жыл бұрын
where did you get the fuse box for the positive battery wire? cant find it
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
This one? ANL fuse holder: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KIR8M0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
@chriswise6374 2 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio thank you, I meant the one with the Alan key and the one you put a 250amp fuse on
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriswise6374 Sure thing -- it was included in the following kit: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IZXGFIK/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 If you don't need an entire kit, I did use the above linked ANL holder in my Evo w/o issue
@fcura95 3 жыл бұрын
What front mount intercooler and piping is that
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
It is an old school Eurojet street kit. I've always appreciated the look & fitment of it.
@jrea8401 4 жыл бұрын
is there like a cover for the front fuses to protect them.. like the original ??
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure - a cover is included w/ the distribution blocks 👍👍
@jrea8401 4 жыл бұрын
supercarmio ok I figure that will do enough. Thanks 🤙🏻
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrea8401 anytime!
@dripydripsz9165 4 жыл бұрын
Did you connect the ground to the original spot or different location
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
relocated to the spot that used to hold down the spare tire 👍
@dripydripsz9165 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome good to know I am also haven’t issues finding a 110 amp fuse I tried checking the link you posted but nothing there I’ve searched google also and nothing is it 110 or 100?
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
@@dripydripsz9165 Yeah same, I ended up using 125As for those locations.
@losprod.6210 3 жыл бұрын
What if you want to have your spare back there.
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's definitely a compromise you'll have to make. I just keep a plug kit & small compressor in all of my cars.
@godzesportscodm1400 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to clean the engine bay with pressure washer and degreaser before rebuilding the fuse terminal ! You will thank me later !
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@GCSEURO1982 3 жыл бұрын
Is this still working good
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
It's been great - the MK4 is my daily (doesn't see too much mileage these days) but no issues.
@GCSEURO1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio thank you
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
@@GCSEURO1982 you got it
@DominoSixO 4 жыл бұрын
that's 10 gauge wire? looks bigger to me
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
From the batt? It's 0 gauge if that's the one you're referring to. 👍
@DominoSixO 4 жыл бұрын
@@supercarmio thx, I thought you said 1 0 as 10 gauge, not 1 as pcs and 0 as gause, thinking to do the same but only because I want to add an extra fuse box and pull my own wires under the dash for my gadgets, nice vid.
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
@@DominoSixO no worries! thank you I appreciate that. This does clean things up quite nicely and you could def. add some more gadgets/accessories for sure.
@moleisrich1 2 жыл бұрын
Flux capacitor
@supercarmio 2 жыл бұрын
Roads...where we're going we don't need roads
@Kevin-wy8kc 4 жыл бұрын
15:05 so so purdy?
@supercarmio 4 жыл бұрын
I think so 😂👍
@emotionalintelligence776 3 жыл бұрын
Firstly, great how-to video. Second and most important do not waste money and time using garbage like aluminum wire for battery relocation or charging, BUY real Copper please. Companies make millions on the naive consumer buying these kits that are only useful in proper select applications. When automakers use pure copper to run your electrical why would you use anything less.
@supercarmio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yes, I totally agree. After performing relocations on other cars I would say using higher quality wire is worth it - I've been going with welding wire and have been pleased. Thanks for bringing this up
@CORZER0 3 жыл бұрын
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