ADDITIONS/ERRATA: -Suggestion is already a Subtle spell! And Stupefy (formerly Touch of Idiocy) now has a 30' range! -Fortissimo is buffed because it based on the highest Will DC, not a very hard level based DC -As a fan and critic I naturally will focus on issues I see. I want to make clear I think that anyone saying the Remaster is slapdash and poorly made is setting unrealistic expectations imo. I'd say the state of the books is about where the first printing of the Core Rulebook was in 2019 in amount of oversights, and remember that there is a huge delay between sending final copy to the printers in China and the street date, and Paizo didn't greenlight the Remaster until January. And Paizo had to act FAST. The huge influx of people checking out Pathfinder because of WOTC'S actions this year meant putting out a stable system now under an independent license. In fact, another complaint is "they sold us outdated books"! Should Paizo have waited?? Paizo can't win! Lol

There are a few hiccups in the remaster, due to it being released so quickly. I hope Paizo will get around to writing an errata. If they manage to fix these hiccups, PF2e will become the pinnacle of well-rounded rules systems.

It's so amusing that Bard gets "69" Class Feats. I see you, Paizo.

Suggestion is now a subtle spell by default, so there's no real reason to apply Melodious Spell to it, but suggestion + diversion sounds like a strong combo.

👀 Unusual Composition can work with ANY sense? Taste for a cook? Smell with perfume? Touch for reasurring hugs? More esoteric ones like the innate sense of balance and time? I'm imagining a quiet bard at the wheel of a ship who inspires their captain and the crew by subtly steering the ship so it sways and tips a strangely comforting rhythm.

38:01 just imagining the bard dropping to the floor and doing windmills to hype up the party during combat

There's one important thing to note about Fortissimo, the DC of the Performance check has been considerably lowered! Inspire Heroics has the DC being a very hard DC of the level of the highest level target of your composition, which according to archives of nethys for a level 8 PC would be a 29, but now the DC is the highest Will DC among the targets, which by level 8 is rougly between 22-26, funnily enough it could be even lower if your allies had some kind of penalty to their saves lol. Anyway considering a level 8 bard with master proficiency in performance and an applicable Virtousic Performer feat reaches a base +20 Performance it's super easy to succeed at the check, and have a considerable chance of crit succeeding for a massive boost. This is also a great combo with warrior muse's martial perfomance as it extend the duration of your performance, thus extending the duration of Fortissimo's boost.

I think Unusual Composition is more versatile now. The old one was just a switch between auditory and visual. Now you are able to exactly define which senses you want to trigger. No limitation in how many or which one. Since it explicitly says that you can exclude any sense, you are theoretically able to target all senses EXCEPT seeing and listening. A somewhat exaggerated example: You perform a very inspiring fart. Your moves while doing so (seeing) are as inspiring as the sound of it (hearing) and because it's your very own signature move, your party likes the "good vibrations" of it (tremorsense) and the way you mark your territory with it (scent). I think you understand what I'm getting at.

A small musical note (sorry, couldn't resist the pun): "fortissimo" is an actual musical term that indicates a full orchestra piece played VERY loudly. An example is the 1814 Ouverture by Tchaikowsky, which in some cases is played with CANNONS in the orchestra! (of course, playing indoors just requires very loud drums, for obvious reasons)

I like the change to Fortissimo Composition, because it means you are literally turning the volume up to 11 to make your allies do things better.

The Bard was my first character, in many ways still my favorite. My biggest issue is that a "Maestro Bard" tends to make a better 'warrior' Bard then a "Warrior Bard". I still think this is true. While interesting that you don't need a Focus Point to extend your Composition with a "Warrior Bard", it is a Focus Point that you wouldn't have had anyway and is easier to maintain and for longer. I also think that theme should be renamed. Tactician perhaps. A Warrior Bard sounds like a Skald but doesn't live that dream. I set out to make a Skald type character and settled on a Maestro Bard w/ Champion Archetype. It seems like the Warrior Bard should have been a better fit.

On your closing statement, I believe that the intention is that you get to choose what type of performance you do for any given composition - allowing a Dancer bard, like the sample presented in the Player Core, to use dance as their 'Courageous Anthem' and making it a Visual performance, allowing them to quite neatly citcumvent the ffects of, say, a Deafness spell cast on one of their allies. Yes in a way it's not clear but I think it's there for the purpose of flavouring your bards so that they can use whatever type of Performance you as a palyer see them doing - espeiclaly useful if you need to make a PErformance check and have, say, Virtuosic Performer. EDIT: With regards to Unusual Composition I think it's tehre for those tiems where your chosen type of performance doesn't work - such as if an ally is Burrowing and thus cannot see or hear you - but may have tremorsense, say from a polymorph effect)or even very bizarre cases like you being able to affect tour Deafened party member inside a DArkness spell by doing a performance that they cna percieve by sens eof smell! :D

from 1 Ron to another… great videos! Much thanks !

Bon Mot was introduced with the Swashbuckler and was a major part of the Wit Swashbuckler's power budget. It's very likely that if it gets a Remaster (it doesn't need it, tbh, it's fine as is), that it'll also be released alongside the Swashbuckler in Core 2.

I appreciate you going into the weeds on this one. It's an important issue that I feel like can be easily overlooked in some parties.

Melodious spell and everything else surrounding the Subtle trait seems annoyingly vaguely worded, as the description would suggest, but it does not explicitly declare, that it would also hide Manipulate traits and the like as part of hiding its 'spellcasting actions and manifestations'. I foresee some arguments at the table when this comes up and some GMs have their own mobs perform Reactive Strikes. A buff towards non-Warrior Bards is that they can now take the Marshal dedication without having to take any feats to gain martial weapon proficiency first, even if they don't intend to go into melee. Triumphant Inspiration (and Martial Performance) in the new Remastered context feels like it's intended to be able to use to extend a spell that would end at the end of the caster's turn - i.e. as if you're using Strikes as a Sustain action. The problem is that the current Duration rules end spells at the start of the caster's turn if the duration is given in rounds, so this wouldn't work and it pretty much can only be used as a random way to get compositions active without committing to casting the composition, making it a very questionable way to play a bard. Maybe it's possible to check if the Duration rules changed? Phantasmagoria is effectively a buff against bosses as in level 17+ games, there's basically always more than enough ways to inflict status penalties reliably through multiple party members (and the bard itself is capable of casting Synesthesia), while confusion stacks on top of status penalties. With a Resentment Witch in the party this confusion can even be extended near-indefinitely with a normal failure. However, it's a nerf against trash as things which would previously have been deleted from the table are... still around.

For spell components, I think they made a good change, however they should keep the Traits Auditory and Visual to determine how and who is affected. You could have a Manipulate Spell Component but the spell itself is purely Auditory and won't affect those who cannot hear the effect of the spell, whether they see you cast the spell or not.

I hope we'll get hints about the Champion rework soon. The dropping of alignment effects them the most.

Bon Mot is a feat of the Swashbucler the Wit style work around diplomacy and Bon Mot... so I gues they will reserve for the Core 2

About Read Aura, I think the main benefit used to be that you could target a bunch of items at higher levels and make sure you didn't miss anything seemingly irrelevant. I, too, really like that it now gives a bonus to identifying items. I really want to make a Warrior Muse Bard, but I have to admit that I *am* worried about never reaching the higher proficiency ranks with weapons...

Bards having martial weapon proficiency means now is the time for axe-guitar warrior-muse bards 🤗

I'm going to make a bard in the future so this will help me greatly

Just gotta give you props again Ronald. I love your videos. I like your take on things, your understanding of the rules and all the implications that come with them. Youre just a wealth of knowledge and you videos are a great resource! That said, do really think it's worth coughing up $165 for 3 new books? I have trouble selling myself that these books are worth $55 each, when just a few years ago they were $35, and even new books by other companies today are $40.

I watched Phil Talking 20s opinion on the new recovery rules and now i think it is better. Someone also mentioned that there are glyphs for players in PFS that i think should be part of normal play to divy hero points from player to player

I’m a bit split on the spells formerly known as Phantasmal Killer and Weird, respectively. I think overall both are a technically a buff. Vision of Death as you point out does more damage on a crit. And the Frightened 4 & Fleeing is great. Most importantly, it removes Incap AND that Fort save. On the flip side, part of the actual fun of this spell was that very small chance for a player to outright kill the target. This takes that away. And I don’t enjoy taking away fun moments at my table. To be fair, this rarely triggers, because most creatures that fail the Will save have a high Fort save. Still, when it happens it’s a blast for the table. And as clean as it looks w/o the Fort save, it’s not like the original whole Crit Failure outcome was Incap, only that rarely experienced Insta-die. Given that everything else is the same on that spell, I’ll probably still use Phantasmal Killer. Or maybe I’ll use Vision of Death (with crit fail damage boost) but also let my players try for the insta-kill. As the GM, I’ll stick to having my baddies use Visions of Death as is, so as not to routinely destroy party members (completely). As for Weird, that’s also an interesting one. The benefit of taking away an enemy’s reactions is more situationally useful than a pure penalty to everything they do. But at high levels, reactions can be so deadly they are almost always a must-remove type of situation. Even non-offensive enemy reactions can still be crushing thanks to certain insta-heals and other buffs. More importantly, everyone and their mom already has a way to inflict Frightened 1 or 2 at this point. Not everyone can shut down reactions. And given that Weird is generally a spell you want to use against more than one target, causing Confusion can switch the dynamics of the fight quickly. But the crit fail here is a straight-up nerf. No matter how good Confusion is, the chance to insta-kill as many targets as you want is just better. Some enemies will insta-die under Weird, and that’s more fun I’m stealing from my players.

Thanks for the video. I am sad they took out visual and auditory. Those were important I feel to counter performance. I know I had a discussion with a player playing a bard trying to counter performance a fireball making the argument that verbal component was auditory. My argument was you don't have to hear someone cast fire ball to be effected by fireball. Also gave them an example of a bogard's croak is what that spell was meant for.

I think compositions are designed to be open ended in their traits. I have no evidence to back this up, however, only that the intention seems to be that each bard can likely design their own compositions based on the text in the composition definition. So i think each composition has either visual, or auditory, or both traits up to the bard

I like the Unusual Composition can include Smellovision.

Unusual composition can be used to target a blind/deaf creature with lifesense, or protect your allies by excluding hearing and sight from the affected senses. But yeah it's mainly offensive imho (not sure many composition spells apply), because for buffing I usually allow to choose the trait according to the player's performance of choice flavorwise. (I also houserule a very flexible "Quick draw" for that because a violin or flute are so freaking cool but usually require 1+ hands so mechanically it seems always better to sing/tell jokes and danse than use an instrument)

5:31 - nice

I'd guess Bon Mot will be in the book with the Swashbuckler, who have a style based on its use... I guess we'll see though, Bon Mot felt at some times broken, but particularly against barbarians who couldn't use concentrate actions.

I move to give all my bard spells the Olfactory trait, cuz I wanna inspire my allies by the delicious smell of freshly baked gingerbread cookies!

I think there is a good possibility bon mot will be in player core 2, as it is an important feat for the wit swashbuckler, and they may want to have the feat in the same book as the class I would have put it into player core regardless but oh well

I expect the Summon Dragon and Dragon Form Spells to be mentioned in the Wizard Video, with no other elaboration. Not like the spells will list anything other than the "New" Dragons. Some of them were released under the OGL in previous D&D editions.

I think letting bard choose between visual and auditory is the right thing to do and it should be part of the class spellcasting description. It's the Unusual Composition which needs to be changed

The wording of Perfect Encore demands a prerequisite. Because the effect uses the word "additional", a prerequisite is required to give context as to what we are adding to. Of course, anyone with reasonable reading comprehension doesn't actually need the prerequisite to understand what the feat is doing; it's simply there as a matter of course.

I guess the reasoning for unusual composition could be that people could smell your composition, since it does say 'any' sense perhaps they could feel it too, taste it perhaps.

Unusual compisition just says any senses, which would include things like smell (or taste?) as well as niche or novel things like tremorsense.

I don't quite like that all spells require speech; it should've been tied to traits. Now some spells that did work while silenced won't work. They maybe even should've had a new trait that makes it clear if it uses speech, and clarify deafened condition at the same time, something like a trait called vocal. Now, my raging barbarian needs to chant a holy aria casting lay on hands and it's wierd

Your discord organized play, is that pathfinder society organized play or some other version?

The silence spell stops mimming brcause, although you aren't making the soubds, you can't mime without the french musing playing in the background so the spell creates and needs that sound as per cartoon logic.

introduction - spontaneous spellcasting - heightening instead of makeing spell a signature spell bards (and other spontaneous casters) can lear a spell on higher rank than its base rank is

Wait, did they change Fatal Aria or did you just cut the effects of lvl 17 or higher on the spell to make it fit into the screen?

You missed a pretty big feat change (unless you mentioned it later and I missed it): Rallying Anthem, the old Inspire Defense, is now available to ALL bards, not just Maestro. This is a noticeable buff for warrior bards who could not use it before.

I actually agree with the magnum opus prerequisite and requirements like it, its good game design because its consistent with all other feats. It does not currently affect anything for this level 20 feat but its actually a good practice for future proofing in case some thing in the future allows you to take that feat without being a Bard Class, even though that probably will never happen since even the multi class won't let you ever get a level 20 feat. BUT more importantly prerequisites for class features is important for level 1-10 feats and so it SHOULD be carried forward to all feats for consistency even if it will never come up on those feats. Consistency is just good game design, even where it could be considered redundant or irrelevant.

For Perfect Encore, the requirement to have the Magnum Opus class feature is probably to prevent characters who archetype into Bard from taking it since they don’t get access to Magnum Opus but can take Bard class feats.

I have an issue with Detect magic/read aura. On my tables, they are the least popular cantrips, they are ignored if I am lenient with the identify magic rules or they feel like a tax if I am not. And it has to do with the fact that they are like a pair of necessary spells and each fell a little bit useless without the other. Especially since many classes have 4-5 cantrips and many of those classes cannot change their known cantrips without retraining or feats. I usually rule that read aura is a 1-minute castin application of detect magic. Lessening the tax and the felling of many players that detect magic somehow does not give any information something very odd when the caster says... there is magic here... I don't know what it is.

Great ongoing review - thanks. Not clear on the general rule regarding spell casting - do they ALL need hand gestures and vocalisation? How would you adjudicate a spell caster who is gagged and / or with hands tied behind their back.

I hope PC2 will include a Detect Sanctification spell to replace Detect Alignment. It's a very nice RP tool for religious characters.

Its only the casting of ventriloquism that is not subtle. Once the spell is cast, then you can use its features for the duration. Note that the heightened version lasts for one hour. One just needs to be prepared.

I wish that the Warrior Bard was able to get built in scaling access to Medium Armor. Now that all bards get access to martial weapons, medium armor would let Warrior Bards be able to better stand out as a frontline/gish spell caster and also let them better make use of the many non finesse weapons. Maybe it'd be too strong given that any bard can take the Multifarious Muse class feat, but the Sentinel Archetype already exists and I'd like for bards to be able to get Medium Armor without limiting their archetype options. Edit: At least there should be a class feat, maybe at level 2 or 4 that's restricted to those with the Warrior Muse, that grants access to Medium Armor and maybe the Shield Block feat, although perhaps that'd be too strong.

Does a dance-based Performance provoke Reactive Strike due to its "move" trait?

I'm hoping Bon Mot will be in Player Core 2, due to its importance to the Wit Swashbuckler

38:10 What's the point? It works against creatures with lifesense or tremorsense. Or a Dirge of Doom (Is that a thing now?) could effect a blind and a deaf one simultanously.

I think the Prerequisite is there to make it harder for Bard Multiclassers to get the powerful Perfect Encore Feat, since I would think it's likely that they do not automatically get access to all class features. Am I correct? I don't have access to the pdf yet, of course.

It makes me wonder when will be the next Pathfinder 2E Remaster Remaster or full on 2.5E/3E if ever.

I think for triumphant inspiration it is unchanged since it basically recasts the composition cantrip, which lets you prolong it again the next time you hit. So in essence a critical Strike will save you 1 action.

So can bards not counterperform another bard’s compositions now because they lack the auditory or visual trait?

Couldn't agree more with you Ronald. I was literally going through the Auditory problem last night, and I don't see anywhere where it says that spells are verbal or auditory at all, aside from the (less than 20) spells that specifically have that trait, with compositions mostly not being one of them, which makes no sense at all. I love Paizo but they really rushed this out and it's got so many fixes needed that it genuinely is a huge problem for how I see the company now. Have they lost all their talented staff with WotC poaching them? Because even I am noticing problems on my FIRST read through! Did they even read through this ONCE before getting sent to the printers? And considering this will be a lot of new players first experience of the system, it's extremely bad that they did this.

I'm guessing the reason why they didn't add the traits to the composition spells is cause they wanted to allow you to pick/flavor a dance or a song, without forcing one or the other? I feel like they could make it so that your class lets you pick, and then adds the appropriate trait to every composition? but rip... Maybe a new trait that lets you pick one or the other? would probably be too powerful either way is my guess

Have you considered that this "Composition trait issue" is simply a intentional buff? Previously, all compositions forcefully got the visual or auditory traits, based solely on their components. That is no longer a thing. Which means they are now mostly immune to silence and darkness. Previously all compositions had to include a specific kind of performance. Now, even those with traits only have a _suggested_ performance. You are not locked into a specific performance anymore.

The new phantasmal killer is gonna be really strong with Dirge of Doom. So long as you keep the cabtrip going, they'll never stop running!

I just had Phantasmal Killer instakill a party member from the double crit fail effect, so i can understand why they would change it lol

Hey, can you please also talk about how they have nerfed the damage of almost all injury poisons? It really hampers a toxicologist build now

I guess you would need that magnum opus line if you were taking bard class feats as an archetype.

Slither is cool, but there seems to be an ambiguity - can the snakes take damage from anything other than direct attack? If I fireball the enemies stuck in it, will it temporarily destroy all the snakes and free the enemies? Presumably not, but clarification would be nice.

I Think I'm going to houserule it in a way: I'm going to ask my bard players to choose one type of performance at the character creations, and their spells all are gonna be have this performance type. Unusal composition will just allow them to kinda use different types

Stupefy last longer on success than I would have expected. Nice.

Warrior Bards still suffer heavily from Lower Proficiencies when trying to mix things up in melee. Resetting their composition cantrips on a critical hit will essentially never come up, unless your GM uses a lot of mooks. Unless I'm missing something ofcourse (which is likely)

I'm sure Bon Mot will return with the Swashbuckler, as that's even more thematic than the Bard.

Does arcane get any more summoning spells with the loss of dragon being their exclusive. I've always liked the conjurer wizard archetype which I don't know which school would fit that the best in the remaster but sadly they made arcane fairly weak in this regard, and now they lost there one exclusive.

I think this video proves even more what you said earlier. HYPERLINKS ARE NEEDED. Sorry for the caps, but this is worth saying "out loud".

Do you get a bard feat and class feat at level 2? Or are those separate?

I think the bard is the only caster where vocalising your magic is really necessary, as sound is the way they materialize their magic. For all other casters I don't see the point why you need vibrating body tissue and air to cast a spell. All the intention is formed in your mind. I can see, like in Harry Potter, beginners speaking a spell out loud for easier visualization, but a trained caster should be able enough to do all the talking in their head. And even if a spell prevents the air from vibrating, the intention is still there and so the spell should work.

38:19 in the images here you show the text of Performance saying it Gains one or more of the traits listed. Doesnt this mean that for a spell with say the auditory trait and manipulate trait but not the move or visual trait if you wanted to Dance to perform that spell it would then have all fpur traits? That seems very reasonable to me.

As a bard fan, I'm gonna miss the term inspire courage. I know it's probably for OGL reasons but still.

I wish they gave warrior bard medium armor. Im playing one right now and i dont feel like i get much from it.

Aren’t all spells auditory now, except if they have a subtle trait. You need to speak for pretty loud to cast anything (or speak to your gm for an alternative auditory way)

I bet that the bard getting 69 new feats was on purpose

What's wrong with Forcecage besides everything?

Prismatic spells gone? No wall, spray or sphere?

As for martial bards and Warrior Muse bards - has the proficiency scaling changed? Before remaster, bard were only Trained in weapon use, which was fine at levels 1-4. At level 5, other martials (non-fighters) would be Experts, which meant the Bard was now army -2 attack compared to them. They would become an Expert at level 11 but the other classes would then become Master at 13. This meant that at some point, Bards were hopelessly behind on weapon attacks, which meant a melee Bard build was untenable. Has this changed? At least for the Warrior Muse bard? Sustaining a composition for free is great but if you can’t hit it’s absolutely useless.

Why is "Unusual Composition" still relevant even if you can choose your performance willy nilly? Because with that feat i would allow a creature to be affected regardless of what senses it my has. Whatever limitations your performance may had before, now it may have none. I can come up with scenarios where a creature with only unusual senses could not be affected by any kind of "normal" performance. Like for a quick example a kind of landshark (underground with only tremor sense) that is swimming in a floating island of rock/ground could be affected even by a kind of stomping performance (river dance?) from another unconnected ground.

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On top of that there is also the Oracle...

I'm not too sure if I like Rouges being trained in all martial weapons. I get the logic, but I feel like it would give new comers the wrong impression. The most offensive sub-classes, Thief and Ruffian, only get their bonuses for specific weapon types/traits (agile/finesse for Thief, Simple for Ruffian). That said, I always wanted to do a war-fan Thief and now that's doable so that's pretty cool.

Bard :D

6:30 heh heh heh

Do 3 times the videos!

69 bard feats. It feels deliberate

I think house of imaginary walls should not require speaking and get erratad

It's really one of the point I think Paizo should have looked at D&D 5e. The components were listed before the spell, and the spell text was mostly flavor. And I think it would work SOOOO WELL with their traits system. It's really a missed opportunity. I'm ok with the magic schools reinvented, but it was unneccesary to undo the verbal/somatic/components part.

Look, everyone! Weird got nerfed!!!

Gotta be honest, Derik Malenda has asked this question and I don’t have an answer: Why on earth was there a desire to give Bard Martial weapon “trained” prof, when they don’t get Expert until level 11, and none of their subclasses ever get higher than that? A bard is never going to be hitting with a weapon, and there’s no reason to use anything but their spells and cantrips.

Então, sobre os traços das magias. Eu acredito que não seja necessário ter todos os traços descritos, pelo menos eu entendo que isso criaria uma quantidade absurda de regras e condições e traços, algo que pf2e já tem aos montes. Isso assusta quem chega de outros sistemas e torna as primeiras runs do sistema algo pesado as vezes maçante.

I want to like and watch more of your videos, as they are a very good analytical breakdown into PF2e, but the constant jump cut edits are too jarring, almost headache endusing, to the point I hide the video and just listen (but then I miss out on the graphics).

Mystery Games are ruined by several spells, mostly ones that were once in the Divination School, as well as any "Speak with X" type spells. Easy to solve a murder when you can just ask the victim.

Mimes should be more powerful when placed in a field of silence. That's just common sense.

Maybe they will Remaster the Remaster. If only they had 4 years to figure this out.

Occult dmg cantrips are ruined at least for summoner since you don't want attack ones