Rematch between e-Golf and Leaf

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5 жыл бұрын

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@1975Chinook 8 ай бұрын

Watching this video (again) in 2023! Nice memories... when you had to use strategy with e-cars; nowadays so many e-cars are so performant; awesome video. Congrats again.

@Peter-st1lt 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video Bjorn! Also a thank you to Pawel as well! You both put the fun back into road trip competition!

@LemonTeaLeaf 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome Race looks like both cars are very close and it just comes down to traffic and charging now. Thanks guys :) 1:1 not sure why I'm so happy the leaf won this time :D

@BomberMilan99 5 жыл бұрын

Next Race: Zoe vs I-Miev ... Fast charging vs high capacity!

@hacekatze 5 жыл бұрын

E-Golf finished with 23%! So I think Pawel made a mistake at his last charging stop. He could (should) have beaten you 😪 But thats life. A rematch in summertime would be a nice revenge!

@idratherberiding3456 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah... they wanted the Nissan to win... :-) The egolf won this and the other one in my book and it is not even a car designed to be electric from the start. Kudos to VW!!! And too bad for Nissan who started the full time production electric vehicles and dropped the ball along the way.

@mravecsk1 3 жыл бұрын

@@EverydayRoadster For what purpose? You forgot to mention "goverment" or something like that.

@kardy12 3 жыл бұрын

MrCoreForce “Obviously staged win”? What kind of conspiracy nutter do you have to be to watch that video and conclude it was staged?

@ashton9699 2 жыл бұрын

@@EverydayRoadster Obviously you've never owned one. Using LeafSpy is a completely normal thing amongst Leaf owners, not our fault eGolf doesn't have as useful and accurate of a tool.

@edwnorris Жыл бұрын

@@ashton9699 OBD11 does just fine. It's not as nice a layout, but it has all the data anyone could need, down to each of dozens of individual temperature sensors.

@kasmopaya2676 5 жыл бұрын

Perfect route for races, 0 blocked chargers(kk of corse always a i3 at the very end) and perfect mobile connection. Not a single reconnect for Bjørn and Pawel. I want more e-tron races if possible. Model 3 needs also a proper race.

@madsfrancke6538 3 жыл бұрын

We need more of these kind of races. Great fun!

@JS-vs9co 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for uploading; very entertaining and informative video! This was a great showcase of two seemingly very good cars in its class. I must say that e-Golf looks very nice (just wish it had a tiny bit more range!).

@ThomasJamne 5 жыл бұрын

Really exciting to watch this! I really enjoy your videos! Seems like its to very well working cars both of them.

@jonathansmith5850 3 жыл бұрын

Best of 3!!!!!! Personally, I love the Golf. (Love VW’s generally)

@SunnySFM 5 жыл бұрын

You two are doing great race and keep it up :)

@MikoziQ 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Bjørn! Will you be covering Peugeot e 208 when it comes out? This upcoming car seems like a perfect solution in terms of price/capabilities. Thanks! :)

@okazakijap 4 жыл бұрын

Wish fulfilled.

@MikoziQ 4 жыл бұрын

okazakijap Yeah finally 😂

@JanWestin 5 жыл бұрын

This was as good as looking at top gear back in the day :D Keep it up guys 🖖

@user-mn6fk2kx7u 5 жыл бұрын

Hi. one small hint. To keep our battery cool, you need to keep charge level between 40% and 80%. Because battery warning when end of discarding and end of charging. ;-)

@therandomtester9561 5 жыл бұрын

Conclusion, Bjørn won. Same tactics on both cars the e-Golf would win again.

@larsoleruben 4 жыл бұрын

This is really very well done!

@michalkowalczyk 5 жыл бұрын

May the rapidgate be with you :)

@Demobot1 5 жыл бұрын

I died laughing at that comment.

@Demobot1 5 жыл бұрын

@@ma6netho I think the newer Leafs have some kind of active cooling. Plus better BMS. But again, a third driver in. Hyundai Ioniq EV would be amazing to see.

@sjanst 4 жыл бұрын

@@Demobot1 Unfortunately, no active cooling as of now

@Hastix 5 жыл бұрын

Model 3 vs Model S P100D (or maybe 100D) would be epic :D

@MauriceNL1 5 жыл бұрын

Model 3 75kWh vs S 75kWh

@awo1fman 5 жыл бұрын

It would have to be a 100D, not a a P100D, to be fair. A Model S 75 wouldn't stand a chance.

@TW-fx2jx 5 жыл бұрын

awesome footage guys, bless u!

@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 5 жыл бұрын

Not one of the most exciting. THE most exciting race ever! Good job guys.

@HenriZwols 5 жыл бұрын

12:20 Relaxing drinking a cup of chocolate while in a car race.

@MiccaPhone 5 жыл бұрын

Proposal: Don't stop the time at arrival. Instead, recharge at arrival till you are at the same percentage as when you started the race. Only then stop the time. Then determine the winner.

@Maxxmentum 4 жыл бұрын

This was fun, thanks guys.

@erebostd 2 жыл бұрын

The eGolf had 23% left, so that wasn’t really fair, the golf would have won. Both are nice cars, but the golf is better, at least in my opinion.

@buckegit 5 жыл бұрын

Having leaf spy was a bit unfair. I would guess had it been even with not using leaf spy. Bjorn would have bailed out for charging twice. I prefer races where the odds are even. I say the golf won, as Pawel had no spying software

@SyBe49 5 жыл бұрын

He still had 1% left and only 5-7 kms to drive. Too bad that e-Golf doesn't even show the percentage, I say it's e-Golf's flaw rather than Leaf's advantage.

@SyBe49 5 жыл бұрын

@@KhalidOnWheels Yea, if car supports that - why not? Bjorn mentioned that they are going to use all of the "dirty tricks" which are available in order to win the race. If eGolf allowed to use a similar dongle/app - Pawel would have used that too. However eGolf doesn't even show the battery percentage, would you say it'd be fair for Bjorn to cover the percentage gauge on Leaf's instrument cluster? :D. Imagine a race between an Ioniq and a Leaf where an Ioniq driver is asked to turn off the active cooling system, because Leaf doesn't have one :).

@SyBe49 5 жыл бұрын

@@KhalidOnWheels , you are taking this race too seriously :). But I agree that Pawel could have used the app too - I didn't know there is an app for the eGolf. Nevertheless - it was his choice and as a result he was a bit more anxious about the range and stopped for an extra charge.

@kasmopaya2676 5 жыл бұрын

Pawel won anyway because he didn't brake rule #1. Do not be a zero hero. (kk leafspy...blabla 9% blabla)No seriously, Pawel won because he didn't have to worry much about rapidgating and stuff, he just drove and charged. Bjørn had to pull every trick of every book he knows to win and on top of that, gable with charging skips. Pawel won this one...

@rdh7221 5 жыл бұрын

Go for Race 3 - Rematch 2 for the tie-breaker. This is real racing where skill, strategy and good fortune of the driver make all the difference.

@ericgan4002 5 жыл бұрын

How about a race on the Autobahn? One car hammers it top speed and the other drives slow and steady. Make the distance long enough so that it comes out really close...

@showme360 Жыл бұрын

The Leaf was always designed to the Janese road speed 50 mph. But the one thing that makes the Leaf stand out for me, even by todays standards, is it bidirectional charging. That instantly changes it from a car to a mobile energy source that runs my heating in the winter from my driveway via the Setec 9kw mobile unit. I would like to see the test done again this time using the 62kWh Leaf as I am told the rapid gating does not happen on this car!

@pete9b 5 жыл бұрын

Great video guys 👏🏻👏🏻. Next time try a race North between e-Golf and Ioniq!!....

@tootallno 5 жыл бұрын

The talles moose in the world, bigger then the Moosjaws moose :) Only in Norway. Great video Bjørn and Pawl :)

@CoolSilver 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome race! Silly Wifey chargers.

@sarahminshull2267 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid 👍

@FrankTaylorLieder 5 жыл бұрын

Car or driver? Do the next race with the same cars... then we’ll find out!

@kellynraf 5 жыл бұрын

Please mention cabin temperature settings in the vehicle you test. Are you just using front defrost? That can effect results immensely! Thanks.

@davidbee8178 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks s for the video guys! Good stuff. I have a LOT of trouble with the Leaf's styling . . . still has remnants of its really awful looking predecessor only now it looks more aggressive - but aggressive is NOT necessarily pretty. The e-Golf on the other hand is still a classy looker and only suffers a wee bit with its iffy looking alloy wheels. Keep up the fun tests ! : )

@lobbiedove5014 5 жыл бұрын

Would the eNiro not be a good competitor also? Also could you do a quick comparison sometime on cost vs gas and savings based on similar vehicle size/model- thanks

@matty0086 5 жыл бұрын

How much energy did Pawel arrived with? In those 2 min and 30 seconds did the LEAF charged enough to reach the level of energy that Pawel arrived with? Probably not... hence Pawel should be declared as a winner. 😃

@aniketsingh3717 3 жыл бұрын

LEAF FOR THE WIN! :D

@mcopanzan 5 жыл бұрын

Better weather this time around for this rematch =)

@Aleziss 5 жыл бұрын

the golf is a beautiful car ! sucks that it has such a poor battery and it is soooo expensive...

@DeerKoden 5 жыл бұрын

Actually you know, i think the Golf will do way better in the long term compared to the Leaf due to thermal management on the battery (EDIT: it doesnt), only time will tell tho. Besides, the Golf might still have higher resell value and higher interior quality.

@Aleziss 5 жыл бұрын

@@DeerKoden the interior does indeed look a lot more refine and classy. They are worth 44000$CA here in Canada which is quite expensive for a car that has 200km of autonomy and that is in the best conditions... when it is winter here, it get really cold often below -20°C, the range seem to drop down to around 80km with a full charge which I find unacceptable for a car of that price range... I love the look, it looks like a real car, nice interior and nice technology too... but 80km in cold weather... hmm... anyway, it is going to be the last year we see the egolf as the new ID line will come out in 2020-21... I hope with better battery technology... I just had wish it would have stay a golf instead of a whole new line of electric models that are going to be even more expensive !

@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын

e-Golf doesn't have thermal management.

@DeerKoden 5 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland oh. That sucks, damn (i kinda liked the Golf). Ill correct myself...thanks for pointing it out Bjorn.

@DeerKoden 5 жыл бұрын

@@Aleziss 80km of range in winter? O_o wow...although at minus 20c but still.

@CAESARbonds 5 жыл бұрын

In Verbrennungsmotor Germany the Leaf would have a disadvantage. Most providers only have one chademo at their location. As the German goverment wanted to block EVs they made special laws. So you have like 2 or 4 nice dc chargers but only one has a chademo. The others feature a blank steel plate where the chademo would be located. So if there is already a car charging even if it is on ccs. the Leaf has to charge super slowly on ac. Because most chargers only can charge one dc car at the time. Even if it possible the law sais no. Ac and dc work but ccs and chademo is illegal. But our goverment know best so buy an Diesel instead.

@Redline5036 5 жыл бұрын

At the end of race it was 1% in Leaf and how much in Golf?

@gp2003gt 5 жыл бұрын

I would call this a tie, just a planning difference, if the race would be longer, the Leaf would rapidegate more than the E-Golf.

@mkkm945 5 жыл бұрын

I would say the Golf won. Many bad circumstances and mistakes - if he had gone to 75-80% at the 2nd last charge, he'd have made it. Furthermore, he ended with enough charge and had the traffic also.

@RomanHyperi0n 5 жыл бұрын

Does 17 wheels are so huge difference ? I have a 24kw Leaf with 17inch rims. Considering to change them to 16inch

@ladytaxiswiss1 5 жыл бұрын

Молодец!

@Redline5036 5 жыл бұрын

Да, я тоже так считаю 👍

@tymanot 5 жыл бұрын

Comparing SOC at the end I think e-Golf is the winner. But as others said the result was more down to traffic and issues with chargers.

@mightygood1 5 жыл бұрын

I feel like the Golf won as it returned with 23% charge left.

@HenriZwols 5 жыл бұрын

Next race same cars different strategies. So 2 leafs or 2 e-golfs of something else but 2 of the same. One person goes for maximum speed, the other for minimum charging time. And no leaf-spy.

@mauroftw 5 жыл бұрын

Did Powel even use Eco mode on the e-golf? And how low was he when he bailed out at the end? If he didnt, and he bailed out early, + the traffic at the end, and the fact that the leaf was driven to "zero" twise, I would say the golf easily won the race.

@eruveo 5 жыл бұрын

Team Bjørn finally!

@siraff4461 5 жыл бұрын

So Leafspy won. Because there's no way you would run it so low without it.

@sebastiantorp2363 5 жыл бұрын

Fair

@Golfgtr18t 5 жыл бұрын

A race between E-Golf, Leaf and Ioniq would be nice to see. 😃👍

@f90bird 4 жыл бұрын

Ioniq would lose big time!

@Golfgtr18t 4 жыл бұрын

Matt H Im not sure. Ioniq is very efficiant. And the 28kW charges realy fast. And doesent rapidgate.

@3milio0o95 4 жыл бұрын

Björn went all ninja and got lucky. Thanks to his Leafspy hack he could easily drive under 0% and calculate the range more exactly than the e-Golf that dosen't even show the cars battery percentage for som odd reson!? You would think stuff like that is kinda important in a ELECTRIC CAR!?

@AliGspot Жыл бұрын

What colour code was the egolf? Indium grey or urano grey?

@scratchy996 5 жыл бұрын

I like how they both nod in Norwegian.

@achikokaxeli 5 жыл бұрын

I'd say it was tie race, but good enough for Nissan leaf

@Bayerwaldler 5 жыл бұрын

13:01 In German this is called "Reichweitenangst" :-)

@Haveagoodd 5 жыл бұрын

1st race was won by Golf by a mile. Second is even. Whatever happened here, Leaf was constantly on the verge only managed to get there using Leaf Spy. So a draw if I am generous to the Leaf:D I think my Soul 30kwh would smoke Leaf anyway, and propably Golf too purely on a charging speed (I get 45kw/min all the time, not sure why but seems Soul does not rapidgate).

@shakeebchaudhary1573 3 жыл бұрын

You should place your camer under roof of the car so the whole dashboard should be visible with the wind screen

@gerrycrisostomo6571 5 жыл бұрын

That was an AWESOME race! Every time you two race, you remind me of the cartoon that I used to watch when I was a kid in the '70s. It is called "The Wacky Races". Here's an example... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLCafquLmZy9Y3k.html

@lesbendo6363 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, in summer

@smoothflying 5 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know the reason for Tesla canceling the 75 kWh battery and only making the 100 kWh nowdays

@HuxTheSergal 5 жыл бұрын

Do the same challenge with a gas powered car. Fill up once and be done with it XD

@swiftarrow9 6 ай бұрын

Leaf won the race. Golf won my first choice for my own car if I can ever get one.

@samanodun6257 5 жыл бұрын

Where is the banana box test of e-NV200.. i cannot find it ;-;

@oldvideopro 5 жыл бұрын

Next race please you two: Tesla Model 3 Vs. 62kWh Leaf e+ 3.Zero.

@dejvi5711 5 жыл бұрын

Rematch but you must charge on 100 % every time or minimum 95% :)

@awo1fman 5 жыл бұрын

I think it was close enough to be called a draw. Your races are more like the old rallies where precision and accuracy are paramount and driving speed is not maximum, it's part of the precision. Great stuff!

@f90bird 4 жыл бұрын

LEAF won!

@awo1fman 4 жыл бұрын

@@f90bird 🙄

@landychev 10 ай бұрын

Would be nice to see some race again. @bjornnyland

@nevco8774 5 жыл бұрын

For the full fairness you should switch the drivers in opposite cars and see what happens.

@jimkelly6024 5 жыл бұрын

M3 TESTS & Race? Please........👍

@flavoie 4 жыл бұрын

Rematch with old leaf and eGolfs!

@mpc007 5 жыл бұрын

Now do this in Summer with 30 degrees celcius outside. Leaf will melt :')

@XTreMe2k6 5 жыл бұрын

maybe next time a challenge with the i3 120ah?

@DoctorMikeReddy 5 жыл бұрын

How were you getting chat over leafspy on the phone?

@ewen1140 5 жыл бұрын

Was this the Leaf with the rapidgate software update?

@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын

+William Braithwaite yes

@Charlieczek 2 жыл бұрын

Im surprised for fast charging on Leaf without problems.

@Ks-0-100 3 жыл бұрын

Is this the 300km range e-golf?

@jamnorge 5 жыл бұрын

Lol, the drama.

@larsnielsen7488 3 жыл бұрын

Hej Bjørn. Du har flere gange nævnt, at 16" hjul er så meget bedre end 17", men hvorfor mener du det? Rulle diameteren er jo det samme, da 17" bare er monteret med mere lavprofil dæk (x 210/50) Vh Lars Danmark :)

@johndavis7112 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing consumption did you have heat on?

@bjornnyland 3 жыл бұрын

Of course. This was winter.

@johndavis7112 3 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland Wow with the heat on that is amazing, did it have a heat pump?

@Charlieczek 2 жыл бұрын

@@johndavis7112 Yeah, it have. But not every Leaf. You should check it before buy. If you see steering wheel and seats heating, that car have heat pump.

@NetYogi1511 5 жыл бұрын

Uh, I believe, the Model S P 100 D will beat the Model 3 only on a german autobahn, but not in Norway with Speed-Limit! If you can't go 150 km/h or more, maybe a Kona 64 or a eNiro 64 will beat the Teslas!

@adamwatl3772 4 жыл бұрын

Whats the song ~8:35-8:50?

@howdidyoufindthis8742 5 жыл бұрын

MKBHD Hoodie...

@kittyclan1000 3 жыл бұрын

without Leafspy you couldn't push the Leaf as far. I'd prefer the E Golf

@sadlogic 5 жыл бұрын

Only e-tron has a chance with 150kW charging all the way. Maybe you have to come to germany for that.

@EMan1979 5 жыл бұрын

my leaf once died at 2,2 % and 0,9 kWh on leafspy

@remiandrepedersen868 5 жыл бұрын

Jeg antar at du kan Norsk , så derfor velger jeg norsk. Min mor har den nye nissan life, men jeg har tenkt på Tdsla model 3. hva mener du om det, som har testet disse?

@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын

Go for Tesla if you can afford it.

@michaelbruunskovkristensen2509 2 жыл бұрын

Sooo..... Driving by prison rules😂

@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 5 жыл бұрын

It's too bad there's no SparkEV there. It'd probably beat both eGolf and Leaf.

@manunanda2366 5 жыл бұрын

Next race, without Leaf spy. I suspect Bjorn will have to be more conservative.

@jdnrotterdam2150 4 жыл бұрын

I stick in my prius for now..

@MiccaPhone 5 жыл бұрын

Adjusted by tactic errors and unequal software tools, e-golf won again.

@PeteSauerbier 5 жыл бұрын

when ev drivers call a race and go 75kph 😂 both cars are nice whereas i'd give it to the leaf in cities and the golf on longer travels.

@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын

+Pete Sauerbier Pawel did 120 km/h. Didn't you watch the video before commenting?

@PeteSauerbier 5 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland i watched it all and it was not meant to be an offense... i referenced to the end where you went close and slowed down calling it a tight race 😉

@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын

I had to slow down in order to not run out of juice.

@f90bird 4 жыл бұрын

Nissan LEAF is the winner!

@huggybear1 5 жыл бұрын

Yes leaf spy gave you the win, a little unfair.

@mkonci 5 жыл бұрын

Good race but this was cheating by Bjorn because using Leaf spy.... On the end with 0% without leaf spy he would go for a charging. So fraudulent victory :)