They weren't "sexist " and her answers were typical Hollywood elite .

Pure class.

YOU MUST BE A LEFT-WING SNOWFLAKE. 😅😅😅😅😅

Agreed. Looking back. Sexist indeed. The guy just never shuts up, leading her on & on to make admit her role as a wife is a pseudo female role.

@@mpshields what is wrong with being a wife and mother?

His questions and statements weren’t archaic at the time though. This was 1966.

True. He is a a mirror of this time., .

The interviewer for those who do not know was David Susskind producer and TV host .

I am 65 years old and, of course, have my wonderful memories of the dick van dyke show. And then I watch her here, tonight, and realize how she was really one of the forerunners of true women's rights. Wasn't she?

I loved her! But she smoked a lot and put work before her son and had a strained relationship. So sad. She’s so talented!

Tessie let me correct you of your last sentence : ...........””depends on a loving family structure. Family includes your mm or dad, adoptive mon and. Or dad . Includes gay marriages who adopt its may be your moms best friend - that’s a familyx

SuperKrock5 her work got her home by 5 while Richie was in school . She didn’t put work ahead. You don’t blame men for being deficient in giving to the family as a parent. It’s ok for men to put work first and never clean a toilet . That’s a woman’s job , wrong.

@Tessie I think you're giving her too much "credit" for the societal shift that has created changes to the family unit. I think she's just echoing what was beginning to happen at the time (women's rights movement). (I also believe she recanted those thoughts in a later interview, or maybe in her autobiography.) Life in the past few decades seems to have gotten a whole lot more expensive than during the Leave it to Beaver years. Either that or people have gotten a lot more greedy. Currently, it seems families feel cheated unless they live in a larger home than they can afford, with multiple bathrooms, all the toys they want, a cell phone---with costly plans---in every hand, laptops for each family member, big-screen TVs with expensive subscriptions, dinners out multiple times a week, multiple, newer cars (and forget it if you tell a kid they'll have to walk somewhere instead of purchasing him or her a car of their own). I could go on. We've become a society of more, more, more. I think that's why 2-job households have become a "necessity", and why the parent who traditionally cared for home and kids has had to work full-time. I don't think it will change, though, as long as people have such high expectations of what they think they deserve.

She was thirty years old, on her second marriage, and had been a TV star for five years. "Young" is not the first word that comes to mind.

You are welcome! We really enjoy this interview as well, and indeed, at a critical pivot point in her career. MTM will always be one of our favorites here at Television Vanguard, and no doubt she'll continue to be one of most featured stars here. Enjoy! - Television Vanguard staff

Do you happen to have other portions of this show? I remember seeing it on KZfaq a couple years ago, then it disappeared. There was a well known psychic who also appeared in this episode (along with Mary) making predictions about the future. I remember one of the predictions was that Lyndon Johnson would not run for reelection (which may have been obvious by 1966 with the escalation of the unpopular Vietnam War). Another prediction was that Robert Kennedy would be elected president in 1972. Of course, Nixon won reelection in 1972, and Robert Kennedy was assassinated four years before, in 1968.

Yes, and 50 years we who aree so CERTAIN of our cultural IDEAS of NOW will sound as crazy 50 years from now [since we cannot see our craziness now that we think as normal]

Yeah the extreme sexism of this pos

@@malcolmcash6854 feminism is crazy

@@MeadeSkeltonMusic - feminism is nothing less than the proposition that women are people. Why does that upset you so much?

In high school, "Birth of a Nation" touched everyone! ...Okay, so I'm old.

1960's mans attitude? He was correct! Who suffered by her feminist mindset of putting her career first? Her child and husband. It's selfish.

@@ConcernedONETOO I always wonder if the older generation think America is a better place in 2020 than it was in 1960. Doesn't make much sense to ask the later generations who never lived thru that period since they have no experience with that time (Mcarthy, JFK, etc.) Bits and pieces of those periods via interviews, tv shows, and newspapers don't really tell the whole story, do they?

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@@ConcernedONETOO she moved to NYC because of her husband’s job. Children and wives suffer just as much if the husband puts his work first.

Ok dear

My respect was lost.

He seems like he knows the truth

Books are reviewed and magazines are criticized, not sure where you or she got that idea. The interviewer was respectful, he let her talk without interruption. What specifically is your problem with him, other than him being a man interviewing a woman?

David Suskind? Throwing arrows? 🙄

If he had soft balled the interview we would not know how smart she was. She held her own. He liked his guests to be smart. I didn't sense her being angry at him.

You mean 7

Shes overrated

@@praisehart7737 Yes Mary Tyler Moore won 7 Emmys overall. She won 6 Emmys for best actress related to the MTM (4) and DVD shows (2), which is what I was specifically referencing (my use of the word "total" was a poor choice). Her 7th was a Best Supporting Actress for a 1993 miniseries called "Stolen Babies".

I can definitely see that!

Thank you for the info and insights into Susskind. We didn't know there was a new HBO documentary on MTM... we'll definitely want to check out the program. - Thank you for watching. - staff

I thought she grew up in California?

Her accent sounds very Illinois to me.

Yeah, what a sexist pig.

Oh give a rest. Feminazis are just as bad.

Alot of American men were like this into the mid 70s untill most women went to wort . Men who wife's worked were pittyed and looked at as losers by average folks untill women entered the workforce

Was he really a sexist pig??? Maybe he asks those questions to get a good response from her. May not be his personal opinion. What's he gonna do, gush all over her like they do today???? How boring!! He was well known for his ground breaking interviews.

@@definitedoll That's exactly what I thought. Susskind was far too intelligent and intellectually sophisticated to actually believe those caveman questions he was spouting. He was patently playing devil's advocate in order to achieve a synthesis of thought, and I think Mary realised this. She parried his thrusts with grace, wit and charm, and the result was a polite and interesting adult conversation. Would that we had more interviewers as skillful and thoughtful as David Sussind, but I am afraid that, in today's media atmosphere of leering, grinning imbecility and politically correct hysteria, he wouldn't be allowed even a soapbox on a street corner.

I thought she looked pretty on MTM show. Maybe the long hair she later had made her look different too

You may have noticed that she became a little less cute and attractive than before. It happens to most everyone when they age out of their youthful beauty, into a more mature beauty. And it was probably also a conscious decision to make her look different.

I read that CBS wanted her to look completely different from Laura Petrie in the first season of the Mary Tyler Moore show, they had her wear a fall and miniskirts. CBS was afraid viewers would think Laura Petrie left Rob.

hipsterdoofus1026 Yes you're right about that. In the first few episodes Mary is wearing a long fall (wiglet) to make her own hair look longer.. Then after about 4 or 5 episodes she took that fall off and showed her own hair ...which was also long but not quite as long as the fall. In the third season she cut her own long hair to a shorter cut like she had on the Van Dyke show. By then the Mary Richard's character was pretty set and she didn't have to wear long hair to look different from Laura. It's kind of all stupid because hair doesn't change the face but that's how they thought back then.

She was 10 years older in MTM show, around age 35 I believe (she was born in 1936) so she started to look more mature. She was also battling newly diagnosed Type 1 diabetes, so I think she looked gaunt in the face, which makes people look older.

Because he's the leader of the home

I think Dick Cavett is a much better interviewer. Mary handled Susskind pretty well. I always feel a great deal of gratitude for Mary Tyler Moore for giving all of us a great deal of comedy and for doing so much for diabetes research and fundraising, She was a truly special person.

@@docadams7099 Yes! I’ve been streaming quite a few vintage Cavett interviews lately. He’s remarkable in his ability to lend himself to the personality at hand - whether it be Janis Joplin, Marlon Brando, or someone like Gloria Swanson. The dynamic between Swanson and Joplin was quite charming! Cavett was superb at garnering people’s trust.

@@docadams7099 And, I as well, have great respect for MTM as the impetus, even in retrospect, causing a sea change in single women’s roles in the work place as well as living in the world as single women. And the creation of a VERY funny ensemble cast mechanism was also at the forefront of modern television. KUDOS, Mary Tyler Moore!

how was it sexist?

Thank you Laura for your comments and for watching this channel. We appreciate your thoughts and insights and for the update on what the new HBO MTM documentary is providing. We have heard very good things about the documentary and we appreciate you stopping by to share your thoughts. MTM was a class act, and we liked so much about this timing of the Susskind interview was that it came about in 1966... just after the end of the Van Dyke Show and just before Breakfast at Tiffanies with Richard Chamberlain. She was ending a real high point in her life and career, and about to enter a low point in her career. It is fascinating to us to see her frame of mind at that time, and know (with the advantage of time and hindsight), how hard she (and Grant) had to work to battle back to the top of the television industry in 1970. Much more to come on MTM and the MTM show around the December holiday season. Take care and thanks again - Television Vanguard staff

Susskind was far too intelligent to actually hold those opinions himself. He was patently playing devil's advocate in order to allow Mary to gracefully clarify her opposing position, and she rose to the challenge beautifully. It is a time-honored interviewing technique which can often result in a fascinating synthesis of ideas. Unfortunately, in today's climate of hysteria, with the thought police on the lookout for every tiniest deviation from the party line, such subtlety is impossible. It took a while, but 1984 has finally arrived.

Yes, because mothers and fathers are exactly the same and always have been.

I'm shocked at her answers

Being married to a TV exec can do that to you

Mary should take over this show #regret

Stop with the God.

@@barbarawebb7185 GOD is the reason why you exist Miss Barbara.....everything BEGINS & FLOURISHES with GOD!!!!! May GOD forever bless and keep you always Miss Barbara!!!

What a simplistic observation. Not everyone is exactly like you. Just a thought to consider.

No he isn't. Women should stay in the home.

your mother was a snowflake too?

I was a small kid when this interview took place. You're right, there are many aspects of life that were far better than they are today. I grew up in a middle class family and my father was the only one that worked. He paid off the house mortgage in three years. Minimum wage was just over $2 and today's equivalent would be somewhere around $20. There were very few people on government assistance because almost everybody made enough to live and SAVE for their futures. I could go on and on. We will never see those days again.

It's what the internationalist socialists wanted, destroy this. Many wanted to destroy it, many Americans. Today's kids don't remember these days, and are told by many how they were oppressive to women.Fact is most men would love to be Rob Petrie, and most women would love to be Laura Petrie.

Well, you got a lot of it right - MTM thought women were crucial in their family lives, and she was her own woman, intelligent, and did not espouse Steinem's views. But certainly the show was _not_ about a _married_ woman. It examined women's lives with and without men in greater depth than anything previous, facing it clearly, with give and take, and leaves it to the audience to decide whether that glorifies a single woman's life, or brings it down to earth.

@@benkuxhouse787 very well said and so true....and while most men and women long for this more "traditional" lifestyle...they will purposely keep it hidden ( or only whisper about it) for fear of retribution....

this was 60 years ago. times were different back then. it wasnt rude like today's woke culture is. today they would cancel him like andrew tate. he's also been dead for 35 years. so it's time to get over it.

Gee, one sane comment in all the ignorant replies, thank you! I completely changed my opinion of the "TV Mary" after listening to this interview. Mary espoused the feminist Friedan thinking her CAREER comes before her child and husband. And that being a housewife was too mundane. Of course, no room for God either. And what happened? Both suffered. Yet not a soul commenting on here see's this.

His wife probably fell in line and did what she was supposed to. (Sarcasm)

I looked him up after seeing part of this interview in the new HBO MTM documentary. In the year of this interview (1966), Susskind went through a divorce and got married to another woman. It may explain some of his hostility toward women.

To be fair, Mary was probably less available than most 9 to 5 working mothers were to their children.

And she wasn't even all that brilliant. She was a decent sit com actress with dramatic range, but she couldn't be funny like Carol Burnettte.

Mary became more conservative in her later years, and regretted not being there more for her son. Watch some of her interviews when she was older.