If you're poor you don't have a lot of money the one weapon you should buy is a shotgun you could kill anything from a squirrel to a moose with a shotgun.

I have literally killed a bear with my 870 fully rifled barrel with sabot slugs. They are 100% worth the money on very large game...

From an old tanker, it's "SAY BO". The "t" is silent. Great video, answered a lot of questions I had....

Absolutely love shotguns. Soo versatile in the home and woods. Thanks for sharing those ballistics results. Keep em coming

My H&R has been the best slug gun I've ever used....and my buddies agree, and so do their dad's. That says alot.

Great vid man, I was looking for a video with even comparison and I could not find one until this one, great video

I saw a guy on youtube improve that 24 inch smooth barrel quite a bit with rifled slugs through a rifled choke, went from a 3.5 inch pattern at 50y to a 1.5 inch pattern

Thank you for helping us. Excellent test.

So many linguists on this thread! Thanks for the helpful video. There are so many varia les that come into play. Barrel length is a big one in my opinion. Copper vs lead, scope vs iron, choke vs no choke, not to mention all the different brands of ammo. The point is to test and find the right combo.

I had both 12 and 20 ga Remington 870's with rifled barrels and open sights. I tested (at great expense) every sabot slug known to man and found the Lightfield was hands-down the best in both guns. I eventually sold off the 12 and now hunt exclusively with the 20. It's become my favorite deer gun as it's light and easy to carry, dependable, and kills deer just as good as any 12 I've ever used. I employ a shooting stick, and with a good rest and comfortable stance, I don't even think twice at shooting standing deer at 100 yards. The farthest deer I've shot with that combination was 147 measured yards. Unfortunately, Lightfield no longer produces ammunition and I only have a few boxes left. Makes me sad!

Your presentation is perfect, just enough chatter and quick to the results.

Thanks for the video, very insightful!

Good video. I like how you explained why you picked this over the Mossberg and how you showed changing the barrel in addition to all of the different loads, barrel, and targets you shot at.

Really well put together mate, enjoying the different camera shots there! Very effective! Nice!

I have shot 2 deers through the heart , dead in its tracks 80 yards, and 124 yards using sabot slugs 3” 375 grain . They’re deadly and worth every penny spent on . Try different shells to find the right one which your gun shoots accurately. Yes it could get expensive at the range, but you won’t regret it when you have to take a deer out to pass 100 yards.

My 870 with the 24" rifled bbl LOVES those Federal sabots. My Mossberg 500 with a smooth bbl loves Fiocchi Exacta Aero Slugs.

I have the same Remington 870 with the smoothbore and rifled deer barrel. For years I have wanted to get a 18.5" smoothbore barrel to use with the rifled slugs. I've seen a few of these videos that have very similar results to stay with the 2 originial barrels, possibly getting a rifled choke tube. I also have an Ithaca Deer Slayer 12 gauge that shoots and groups cheap Remington Slugger shells well.

I have an 870 w/slug barrel, but my deer gun is a Mossberg 500 w/24" rifled barrel with cantilever scope mount. I set up an identical gun for my son-in-law. We use only Hornady SST sabot slugs w/scopes zeroed @ 125 yards. 3" groups are common. 1st time out my SIL got a 1 shot kill on a doe - heart shot @ 157 yards. He's shot several others from 50 yards to 175. My experience differs 'cuz of my hunting site. Mine have all been 7 to 15 yards. The SST sabots are expensive, but very reliable. I also have a scoped Savage bolt gun w/24" rifled barrel that gives similar results.

My old Mossberg 500 with sabot slugs prints clover leaves at 50 yards with open sights on a rifled barrel. It has never failed me.

Got a MossBerg Mav 88. (24 inches Smooth bore) .Eats everything and give me good results and groups from 25 to 100m.... I love it! 🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

Say-bow that's the way the Army said it while I was in.

Great info. I'm always trying to see how far I can reach out with different shotguns & various loads. It's like an addiction 🤣. Thanks for the video, good stuff 👍

I've got a scope on my 870, grouping is tight at 100 yards, using the sabot's

I used rifled slugs for years, if it's what you're comfortable with absolutely use it. Switched to sabots 3 years ago open sights for the first 2 and managed a 75 yard shot (gut and I felt horrible, but that happens) and a 40 (killzone in the chest) with 2 3/4 remington copper core sabots. Adding a scope made a big difference for me this year, 110 yard sabot shot with the new winchester 3inch mag sabots, perfectly in the killzone. All the distances where confirmed using a laser range finder, but at the end of the day would love to be lawfully allowed to use a rifle (not a 450 bushmaster or 350 legend)and keep the shotty for bird and clay shooting. Good video man.

My dad and cousin worked out a deal and I ended up with an 870 with a rifled barrel and I gotta use some sabot slugs, today we sighted it in and I hit a small metal target twice at 100 yards with iron sights, now before anyone rips into me I know it’s not crazy impressive but it felt good that I shot twice, hit twice and we were on our way, especially with how expensive shells are

After losing 2 deer while using the smoothbore the 870 came with I finally bought a rifled barrel helped me so much got my deer right through the heart.i shoot slugs about a foot low with the smooth barrel

Been watching these videos. I won an 870 in a raffle with a bird barrel and a rifled barrel. I am really partial to my dads old Browning humpback with a 28 inch barrel modified choke. That thing shoots 3 inch groups at 50 yds with rifled slugs. I was excited about the rifled barrel for the 870. Watching these videos now not so much

Good video. This helps me build a strong case to stick with my 7mm mag for deer hunting. Thanks.

I think your 100 yard groups would be tighter with a scope. I'm late here, but the 870 and Mossberg 500 both are not drilled and tapped for sights on the receiver. My Mossbarg 930 semi-auto is. From the pictures of the new models, it looks like the Remington V3 might be drilled and tapped. On my 870 20 gauge Skeet Gun ( old, old model) I mounted a scope with a mount that sits only on the left side of the receiver. Snugging that down until it's "just" tight still pinches the receiver and affects cycling the action, so I would recommend only using scope mounts that straddle the receiver, and replace the nuts with nylock nuts. Always test your sights at the range. Lining up the two beads on the ventilated rib on my skeet gun on the bullseye would put my pattern about 13" to the left at 100 yards.

I wonder how much better the 28" barrel does. I'd like a scope. This was great to help the information.

I only bought Hi-Viz Thombuster II sight for my 870 smooth bore 28 inc full length by Remington Slugger I had a similar group like yours. Pretty consistently. We tried my friend's one with a rifled barrel. We figured out the only thing you can win is a more compact size what is good for hunting from a ground blind or handle in a wild boar driven hunt. And for a mire handy gun, I don't think it would worth the money for hunting. I even don't go for a shorter barrel for home defense but a magazine extension instead. That way I have a pretty long gun yeah for sure but 10 round capacity is Hell of firepower with a 12 gauge not to mention how easy to mount white light on the magazine extension.

Them old 870 were good shotguns. I have an old Mossberg 500. I never used rifling but hunted with buckshot. Good deer guns ,,,

I think for sabot slugs with a full rifled barrel and a scope is the best combination cause you can adjust the cross hairs to where you need it I myself have three remington's shotguns all 870 pump 28 inch barrel for bird and clays full choke and 18 inch smooth barrel home defense a 24 inch fully rifled barrel with a scope and at 100 yards get groups about the size of my fist shooting hornady american whitetail slugs 325 grain 12 gauge 2 3/4 that's just from my experience great video 👍 and good luck out there hunting deer I also us shotgun with slugs to hunt deer and pig out here in Texas in public land

You only tested 1 mfg. Where are the Lightfield, Hornady, Remington, Winchester slugs. My slug gun holds a 2-3” group at 100 yds. You didn’t even finish sighting in to center up your slugs. It was nice windage shooting at 100 yds though. I would love to see this test redone and expanded. You may find each barrel prefers a particular slug. Best to you for this coming season.

Great video... Thank you.

The weight difference between the 870 and the 500 makes a difference when carrying a long ways and quick target acquisition. as far as the safety “click” issue goes… my Mossberg is virtually silent at all times…

Good shooting tex! That's hard to do with a rifle. I love my 870. Five other shotties but I keep that. Manual cycle is unbreakable.

Good video. Thank you

I love my hastings rifled barrel. Shoots sabots fantastic. It's 24 inch

I have a Mossberg bolt action with rifled barrel that shoots groups so tight they take out the bullseye of the target with sabot slugs and a scope at fifty yards. Because the woods are so thick here you normally don’t get shots beyond thirty yards and is better than a rifle in brush. It is my deer gun of choice unless field hunting with potential long shots and no brush. Good video, not sure why the groups were not tighter with the sabots, could be the ammo. Darn good shooting with the rifled slugs, very impressive grouping.

nice job bro, great video

I have a Mossberg 535 with rifled barrel an it shoot 100 yards with ease with accuracy an I use the Remington 3” accu tip 1900FPS 385grain an no problems with 100yard accuracy

My 20 ga. 870 carrying a 22" fully rifled barrel with cantilevered scope mount is a tack driver out to 250 yds. using solid copper sabots. It is in essence a very large caliber rifle. I only use the rifled barrel for hunting. My 870 has a 7 round 1 piece factory mag. I use Foster Slugs in the stock 18.5" barrel. I only load #4 buckshot or 00 buckshot for indoor self defense. Outdoors or in my truck it is 7/8 oz. rifled slugs. 7 rounds of big bore copper bullets at 1600 fps is definitely formidable.

i use a red dot on my rifled barrel and my shot groups and distance improved. Old eyes cant use the iron sites like i used to....plus the red dot stays on for the smooth bore for turkey season.

I shoot rifled slugs out of my rifled barrel They are more accurate than the sabo slugs in my gun and I put them out there it’s cited in for 100 yards

I know this video is old, but I want to thank you for it, everyone should own this firearm. Great, legendary, and very reliable. I smooth bore sabot's for the win!

That first shot on the right target you were trying to figure out, hit the knot about 8" off the lower right corner at 5:34.

also, with a super mag reciever, u can shoot 3 1/2” ammo with the proper barrel. 👍🏼

Slugs of any type are what a rifled barrel is made for

I use an 18.5" Mossberg smooth bore for my 50 yard max hunting here in Michigan. I put a cheap 3-9X40 scope on it, and group 2" with Remington Sluggers at 50 yards. I've got a lot of other deer rifles, but this really puts them down. Also it is very short and easy to use in the ground blind. I usually take neck shots. I'm too old to chase deer :) - Joe

i would like to have seen the difference between the sabot and rifled slugs, both through 24” barrels. i feel like the rifled slugs were at an advantage with the 4” longer barrel.

Correctly calculated Kentucky windage= being familiar with your firearm..lol.nice video

Great video, can you do a scope on the sabot with rifled barrel?

I'm a profound proponent of this three gun set: a 22LR handgun, a shotgun with a smooth bore n a scoped rifled barrel. Oh, that's only 2-1/2 guns though. I never was good at math. That collection with cover any situation inside of 200yd. Farther away? Hunt closer, hunting isn't supposed to be easy. If it's a threat, it's far enough to hide or escape from.

The 870 Express magnum I use with a 28in barrel with a patternmaster chock tube I get a great pattern with 3in 00buck in federal premium 15pellet copper plated without flight control but wasn't impressed with a rifled barrel beyond 50yds what I'm getting with buckshot the same distance but get superior accuracy with a H&R 980 ultra slug with sabots out to 100 and 200yds with its 24in heavy barrel.

To me rifled barrel and Sabot Slugs are worth it to me. I used a smoothbore for many years.

My 870 and Mossberg 930 both have cylinder bores so I can shoot anytime I get my hands on in 12ga

Cheap isn't always less. Thx for the vid BTW, super mag - isn't that a 12/89 - 3½ in.?

Who doesn't like an extra 4 inches? Ha-HA! I see what you did there sir!

This influencer is superb

I use rifled slugs only mainly because we can use buckshot to hunt deer down here in Florida so no need for rifled barrels when buckshot is used a lot more than slugs

At 6:08 the shot hits just below the bottom right hand corner. Look just below the end of the black where it meets the yellow, but on the wood

If you buy a Savage bolt specialized gun most definitely but combos won’t shoot for crap past 75-100 yards

What is everyone's go to for sabots for a 870 20 gauge. Just picked up a rifled barrel. I'm limited on sabots. Hornady SST, Winchester BRI, and only 8 shells of Remington accu tip.

Never worried about lead fouling in my scoped rifled barrel Mossberg 500. Rifled slugs shoot just fine and do the job for me at a substantially lower cost..

Have you actually had a barrel shoot off? 4:24 or been there when It did? I would think it would cause it to be out of battery and not fire if it wasn’t on right. But I don’t really know. Just my thinking.

I run with an 870 3" Magnum. I BOUGHT a rifled barrel for it. Fact of the matter is that every round has its own best use. I dont often use scatter, but there are activities in which its good, so have the choked smooth barrel standing by. I would rather hunt with solid rounds as scatter is really kind of weak per round for big game, if they hit. I want to penetrate deeply, take out critical structure Im aiming for on the way. However the rifled barrel is largely for one single slug: The Brenneke Magnum Crush. You see, I have a foldable stock on the shotgun and its most often used as a camp gun. I run the Magnum Crush for 1 1/2 oz of hard cast at 3,800 foot pounds of impact on dangerous game with a 0.71" round. Bears. Its my bear gun and that is my bear round. It stops what you throw it at. Rifled Barrels ONLY. They are stronger, and right on the box its mandatory for this ammo. If I want to hunt something other than bear or wish to use a lighter round there are still high power alternatives. Red Magic for instance at 3,000 foot pounds is a sabot. Black Magic in the same ballpark is a slug. These can be run with smooth barrels apparently. Normally Its a pistol grip camp gun loaded with Crush and Im hunting with a 30-06 at 3000 foot pounds.

Just shot my Savage 212 rifled barrel with winchester super x rifled slugs...3/4" group at 60 yards. I usually hunt with copper solids but bought these for backup this year. I think they will do great out 100 yards.

I have a Rem 870 shotgun with the same laminated stocks, and an 18/12 " cylinder bore barrel. The only difference is a Bushnell TRS 25 red dot that sits on a Remington saddle mount. I'm a useless shot without the red dot, but shoot fine with it. 😶

I thought the sabot would shoot better in the rifled barrel. Maybe try a rifled choke tube on the smooth bore barrel.

You can get pretty good accuracy with rifled chokes, and they are much cheaper than a rifled barrel.

If this is correct and I assume it is, you would be foolish to hunt with anything but the rifled slugs, they weigh more, bring more energy to the target deform more and are just plain more deadly than the sabot. I generally prefer buckshot as most of my hunting is done in very tight cover, but when I do hunt in more open areas I find very satisfactory results and I have no rear sight. Just a 30" barrel and a full choke, the same one I use for small game. Keep it simple one gun one barrel many different types of game good for deer, (buckshot and slugs) ducks, turkey, goose, bear, pheasants, coyote. Did I leave anything off the list?

Mossberg 88 Rifled barrel 3 inch Is with every Penny for deep woods My brush rifle branch breaker.

I shot a deer with 44 mag soft point ( 8" ) & 12 ga Sabot slugs . The result was the same , they ran off with a heart shot & you could not tell they were hit . 75 yds & dropped . I will never use them again . 44mag with HPs ONLY , Much Better . The damage to the deer was the same , 1 clean hole in & out .

I'm glad you gotta home defense arsenal built up because Ima break into your house and steal that couch.

Funny! Good Video.

If you want the utmost accuracy from your slug gun, use at least a 22 or even a 24 inch rifled barrel is a must.... 18.5 inch is definitely inadequate...

Look at the wood by the bottom right of the far right target... that's where your miss hit.

I'm curious to see how accurate a sabot is through a smooth bore..

I've been looking for a smooth bore with rifle sights for my Rem 870 and they are nowhere to be found. Sucks.

The second shot hit to the right

Did you run a choke with the 00 buckshot? I'm assuming you just pull the choke out when firing a slug?

I own a 3" magnum 870, and yours looks like a 3 1/2 " magnum. YOUR receiver ejection port looks much longer than mine!

I’m upstate New York too man. I use mossy 500 20 gauge with smoothbore barrel and rifled slugs and I go out to like 100 yards no problem. Great for deer. Rifled barrel isn’t really super worth it imo.

My tang safety on all my Mossberg make no noise

You can do the something with a tank safety

Great job on this comparison video! I shoot a 12 customized J.C. HIGGINS 12 GA pump with a rifled choke tube it shoots two inch groups at 50yds. Shots ordinary FOSTER slugs just fine. This is a fixed barrel and not removeable, which helps with the accuracy. I have this gun scoped, and can change out the tube to FULL for spring turkey. From what I've learned shooting a SAVAGE 220 with a full rilfed barrel, they tend to shoot better with fancy, expensive SABOT shells.

First test was at 50 yds.?

Say Bo, (sabot) - T is silent as in Chevrolet…

"SAY-BOW" The only reason why you funny guys like to say it your way is because it sounds like "savage"! You silly "savage"!

One thing… the holes the rifled slugs make are twice as large in diameter. Might want that if you love carnage.

What happens, besides loss of accuracy, will happen if you shoot these shells out of a smooth bore?

Try a rifled barrel with 100% copper slugs, which is supposed to be good to 150 yards and a 4 inch group or less.

Rifling on slugs may be the opposite than barrels. Lands on slugs are 4 smooth barrels. Sabots are meant 4 rifled barrels. Cost me big once back in the day. Or at least it's my excuse!

John here I shoot slugs ever year rifle slugs are the best buy the scope 870 barrel has 1.24 twist but simmon.s 1.5x5x32 diamond.. Barnes VT slugs 3 in or 2.3/4. Sight in at 100 yrds dead on. This will you out 150yrds easy. And at 100yrds the group will be 3 inch group. Are try different slugs as well in Sabot style. Stay with 1550 fps and 450 gr to 485 gr. Trust me on this. Your rifle sight barrel is 1.36 twist make for heater slower Sabot like the old 450 gr Winchester Sabot. And easy shoot 140 yrds.

You should try the new Russian cast slug molds offered by the Reloaders Network. In a fully rifled barrel, they shoot very accurately and are very inexpensive to make. They also shoot well out of a smooth bore. The Frag version is frighteningly powerful.

I accidentally bought a box of sabot slugs instead of rifled for my smooth bore shotgun and I was wandering if I could still get decent accuracy out of it?

the first one , wich you didn't figured out where it went , went on 5:35 6 inches right and down , of your right target. Right on the wood mark .how did that happen ??

You shot the bored down to the right you. Can see the hole from the slug appear.

Need a scope with the sabots