Gday Matt my last set of terrain tamer shocks lasted over 10 years before being flogged out, got a set of Raw nitro max shocks and changed the cruiser completely. Looking to get a set of parabolic springs soon thanks to your old vid on them. Thanks heaps for the knowledge mate, this stuff would take decades to learn by one's self.

Thanks Ben

So glad I could help let us know how you go and what solution you come up with

My pleasure Jack

Thanks for the encouragement.

Haven’t you basically just re-said what i said?

I’ve since watched the video with your comments in mind and can see how you have come to your conclusion but I think if you were to watch again you would see that i do understand the workings of shocks. I do tune them on the ultra4 racecar and they’re a 3 stage bypass shock with a seperate coil over shock for the suspension. It’s not a simple setup.

The difference is it looks like mad matt said his facts in one fluent talk in each segment. Where as you, you were typing it and still had to edit it. Im going to listen to mad matts explanation.

Do it. LOL I think there are a number of systems out there along those lines. I think the Toyota Kdss system is a variant.

@@MadMatt4WD I have to google the kdss system. But Citroëns are a bit of a passion so I probably feel more comfortable there. The only problem I see is how to get/make some suitable rams and maybe tuning/finding the correct damper properties in the spheres. But I imagine that Citroëns have kind of a "secret weapon" there. All Citroëns except the last has trailing arms with very short rams that are "geared" to a lot more travel at the wheel. (sorry for my bad/strange english). Also the system with separate spheres are possible to connect in "serial/parallell". It´s only important to remember that it´s a bit "backwards" compared to metal springs. Meaning that you take "away" suspension to make it more stiff. In essense, very hard spheres (little gas+smaller orifices) at the wheel cylinders, and a more soft+less dampened sphere that you can connect inline with the wheels to make it softer when needed. And if you also take the active roll-correction from the Xantia Activa you will have zero body-roll on the road combined with 100% disconnected anti-rollbars when flexing. That one is also surprisingly simple in it´s layout. One anti-rollbar-link per axle is replaced with a ram that the car adjust with a hydraulic/mechanical valve connected to the roll-bar. The simple and genious part is that when roll-bar is not needed the system use the same kind of valve-part with a sphere on it as the regulation of "sport/comfort"-suspension. I understand if someone has doubts about this, but Citroën are really good at hydraulics. Most failures are due to people without knowledge trying to "fix" something. It´s a bit sad that I only have a IFS-car to try it on (Isuzu Trooper). But maybe it´s a good idea to hold myself back a bit and only do it in the rear anyway.

Citron have always had a good reputation for creating a good ride. This is the Kdss system. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLJ2adFk07Pbp6s.html

@@MadMatt4WD That was interesting. Looks like they were inspired a lot of the SC-CAR (Activa) system. Very nice to see that they did something like this for offroad-use. And I guess thy have something similar to the Activa for controlling it. Although I couldn´t see if leaning vas actively controlled or more a result of controlled stiffness. What I mean is something like "in the Activa, leaning is a choice, adjust it wrong and you are leaning at maximun on a straight road". Although I see a potential problem there. The Activa is always interacting when flexing. They are best in class while taking a bump on one side, but may look a bit funny when parked on uneven surfaces. I guess it would sometimes be pretty stupid to have this when crawling rocks. But I guess the Citroën way with this is to throw some more regulators on it. And a lot of beer on yourself...

It’s disappointing when you don’t get the service so glad you’re happy now

Hi Callan, that should not happen, can we email you to get to the bottom of this one (TT)?

Hi there mate How are those TJM shocks going. Are they still meeting your expectations? How have you found adjusting them and what's the comfort like on black top unloaded? I've got a 76 also and also wondering what springs you are running. Cheers Mick

Certainly horses for courses.

Hey mate. Yes we have imported Tundras here. IMO these would be overkill for you. You could put a set in the rear if the shocks are too soft when towing just for the adjustability.

MadMatt 4WD thank you mate and best of luck in these dire times. P.S. Love your Land Cruiser.

Pleasure and thanks

Pleasure

No problem

Glad to help

Thank you

@@MadMatt4WD admit it, you didn't know what that said haha

It’s kind of irrelevant because every vehicle and driver is different but the front’s are sitting on four and the rears are sitting on one I’m just still getting to know the settings

Hey mate. You need to talk to dobinsons.

I’ve been very pleased with the maxxis tyres. Search my channel for some review videos.

I'm very happy with the setup. I mean they have their limitations as they can't adjust for rebound but for the average user they are great. When i tow the race car i crank them up and then if i'm running around town i set them soft. On high speed dirt i can hook in with confidence.

At the moment the fronts are on for the rears are on one

How long have you run them? what do you find about them that you like?

Been running them for about 3 years now. Serious tracks too. Canning, Simpson, Cape York, etc.... Decided I wanted something a bit more serious than the foam cell shocks I'd been running. I had heard good things about konis and really like their simplistic design. They do not use a gas charge at all, it is a large volume oil only shock that cools extremely efficiently. I think it's always horses for courses but I've found they work fantastically with the 70 series leaf spring design and I really like their tough, no nonsense approach. Totally rebuildable they are designed for rugged outback travel. And they are an impressively large and very high quality design Not only that, they have transformed my ride. I mean did I mention how big they are??.... they're big......... not that size id everything of course........ at least that's what i'm told!.......... Yeh they're not the cleverest design out there (although they are tuneable) but they are simple and solid and rugged and built to last for years just like the landcruiser itself and I think they'll be good for many more thousands of kms yet. In fact I can't fault them.

Course I drive a hzj75 which is basically like a horse and cart but without the horse. So I like to keep it simple

Hey mate. You’ve Identified the settings correctly. 1 is soft. Since filming this I’ve brought the back up to around 3. But I can’t tell you your settings as there are to many variables.

The adjustment affects both comp and rebound

Thanks Matt. You’ve given me an idea which side to start👍👍 I will try one by one to see which of the 24 clicks is the best.. happy day’s.

You’ll change them depending on load and terrain.

The ride will depeand on making sure the shocks are fitted to the right vehicle. The adjustability of the shocks does allow for a better ride assuming the above. You can change the adjustment depending on the load.

@@MadMatt4WD many thanks matt! Would love a video on adjusting shocks, got no idea on words like preload and rebound!

I have done a few on shocks but id have to check if I covered those points.

I had them in an 80 i bought and they were no good for my application. The guy who fitted them loved them. They are a good product for the right application

They don't tend to last. I like this idea but lets see how long it lasts.

@@MadMatt4WD Ok, that might explain the tougher plastic guard which is something.

Ha Ha

@@MadMatt4WD I'm glad you liked my joke; it's especially an honor when it's coming from a legend like yourself.

Well it’s funny 😂. Thanks and thanks for your support

Time will tell

Many other shocks available that are SUPERIOR and even cheaper than these