Removal of Armstrong Linoleum using oscillating tool, then heat gun and scraper w/ clean removal of all adhesive. And no knee pads necessary!
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@Strangerer693 жыл бұрын
Best advice on the internet, John! I found your method the one and only way to get the glue off the wooden floor. Great video.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and good to hear. This was my very first KZfaq, by the way. And first and only take. I simply put the camera on the tripod and went for it. But seriously, I tried other ways to remove that glue before I figured out this way and this was the best by far. Glad it helped you.
@rbton6 жыл бұрын
Didn't work too well here on some 44 year old linoleum. The top layer was real brittle, so the multi-tool + heat gun made pretty quick work of that. I heated it from the top then peeled the upper layer off with the Dremel. The next layer (lower layer of linoleum + the glue) wasn't having anything to do with the heat gun. 1200 watts would soften it just a tad (and was starting to burn!). Answer? Belt sander with a course-grit belt.
@vgmijpn8ball4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! This worked great for me, after spending a few hours scraping I found this video and finished the job in under an hour. You may want to mention that it would be a good idea to check for asbestos before doing something like this.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi4 жыл бұрын
Yes, always good to check on that. Mine had no asbestos. It's use was banned in home building materials 12 years prior to my home's construction.
@Lalli9234 ай бұрын
I think this might work for me. I used scrapper but it doesn't work. I need to buy a heatgun and a multitool now.
@kolinken95247 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video John. I used the same technique in the past but used 2", 3" and 6" knifes. The 6" was a drywall knife for bedding in joints. It worked well because its spring steel and was very flexible. I also used my heat gun's high setting to heat up the broad knife and it scraped through the glue like butter without damaging the 1-1/4" plywood floor below.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi7 жыл бұрын
Great idea, Kolin Ken, to heat up the broad knife with the heat gun. (I do recall now that my blade got really hot, too, from the proximity of the heat gun.) Really good idea, especially if using a wider blade. Thanks. JRR
@stephenmahoney84487 жыл бұрын
very helpful video. to the point, concise and works well. thanks John.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Stephen. Glad it helped.
@mrsmucha3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Just want I needed to know to remove my linoleum.
@CncObsession8 жыл бұрын
It beats an idiot stick and a razor scraper. It would take me about 3 minutes to make an extension to allow me to use that tool standing up. Seams use a different adhesive hence why they are harder to deal with. However that vinyl appears to be a Rotogravure and not an Inlay. Inlays are much stronger floors.
@roxydog20047 жыл бұрын
The electric iron is working pretty good for me and with the setting on it I can regulate the heat/ steam ,it's softening them up and I can get them up easy enough mine were self sticking so no thin set used or much residue left behind .
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the best solution to me. Congratulations.
@robertmccusker44804 жыл бұрын
Best video yet...thanks
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Robert!
@RachelMiller9205 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the instructions. I used the iron method for the top layer of vinyl squares in my hall but the original flooring stuck to the plywood sub-flooring is REALLY stuck. Hopefully I can find a blade that fits my ryobi. Then laminate hardwood, click and lock it is.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi5 жыл бұрын
I wish you the best of luck. Persistence pays off. Thanks for checking in.
@allenmicheal8134 Жыл бұрын
Never thought of a multi tool with that blade. Have that, a will use it! Thanks!
@fjon40606 жыл бұрын
John, throw a wet towel on top of the glue. Let soak for 15 - 20 minutes. You’ll be amazed... Now if it’s cold in your house the heat gun will be fine. I live in Texas and it’s too hot for a heat gun.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi6 жыл бұрын
Good tip to try. And I agree the heat gun would likely be brutal in Texas (unless you were lucky enough to find a cool spell). Thanks for checking in.
@catherinehoctor34598 жыл бұрын
Very good detail and explanation.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Catherine.
@Broncort16 жыл бұрын
Although I happen to have all 3 tools your using, I'm thinking of just tiling over the linoleum....somehow...lol. That seems like it would take forever!
@duster00663 жыл бұрын
In other words there is no easy way to get the paper and glue off. Great. Thanks for the vid.
@chandlerswatch6193 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You're a life saver.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, John.
@ericastier16462 жыл бұрын
Quite the contrary, this certainly contained asbestos. This was very bad idea.
@suzygreen26124 жыл бұрын
Oh, why didn't I watch this before spending the last 3 hours busting my ass? I own a damn dremel!
@hlohlholhhol5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@TheRealGreeble6 жыл бұрын
Test for asbestos in the tile, glue and especially the backing paper before any work like this as it's likely to contain it.
@Joggly4206 жыл бұрын
zenonithus thanks, these videos will outlawed befor to long . Criminals
@DforDela4 жыл бұрын
@KGB 1974 because it was a cheap way to make it stronger. they weren't fully aware of the effects back when these backings were being used.
@lanazaakat9466 Жыл бұрын
Use hot iron with vapor to peel off.
@ThatYoutubebloke6 жыл бұрын
Good golly mate; next time just saw the plywood into two by two squares and replace the lot, Time is money, that whole job would of taken 5% of the time.
@dragontile3 жыл бұрын
You need to pay someone to do this, it's incredibly difficult
@justloco176 жыл бұрын
Would this method work with Vinyl self sticking tiles?
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi6 жыл бұрын
Justin Vidal It should work really easy for your case of self sticking tiles because you don’t have to deal with the miserable glue I had to soften and remove. Good luck.
@dmitrikguajardo60066 жыл бұрын
oh yea those fumes are just wonderful to smell
@manakay8715 Жыл бұрын
Gesh this is a nightmare, we’re getting ready to pull ours up. Pray for us 😂
@76CavScout7 жыл бұрын
Great video. On the dremil, would the 2.3 do the same? just curious. Thanks
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi7 жыл бұрын
If you mean the 2.3-Amp Dremel tool, I would think so. Good luck with the job. I see other comments on other blades to use and I say try what works best for you. It might have gone faster for me if I tried wider blades. Now that it has been 2 1/2 years, I can reaffirm that it was well worth the effort doing it right: my floor is still perfect and it is really nice having the exact same level floor surface at the transition to the hallway and the dining room without any transition trim pieces.
@76CavScout7 жыл бұрын
John Renzi I got the 3.3 works great. but come to find out that my house has a partical board sub floor. but it did work on it though. I'll watching out for more videos. thank you!
@dragoness04208 жыл бұрын
Would this method work with concrete subfloor as well?
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi8 жыл бұрын
+dragoness0420: It should. I'm guessing it would be easier for a concrete sub-floor because you're not concerned about splintering or gouging or burning any wood.
@chrisk39885 жыл бұрын
The answer is that it kind of works. The concrete will destroy the scraper attachment very quickly( like after 1% of the job haha). I did this job and it was absolutely miserable trying to remove the 40 year old linoleum off of concrete subfloor. I tried just about everything including the iron trick and this exact dremel scraping attachment. If I had to do the same job again this time around I would spend the money to rent a commercial concrete sander from Home Depot and just sand away. Use a window scraper to get the corners and under the cabinets and such. Then put down a layer of thinset to smooth it all out. This sounds like a lot of work but trust me it would be 100x faster.
@RossABQ3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisk3988 -- I know your pain! Doing the second area (laundry room) in my 40-y.o. house that has ugly old linoleum. I use the oscillating tool to get what I can, then soak the remaining glue with a weak solution of water and dishwashing soap, let it soak in then scrape.
@jeffroutledge9153 Жыл бұрын
Good grief! How long does it take to do a whole floor like this? That's looks like a phenomenally tedious job.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi Жыл бұрын
Yep. It was tedious, alright. But the least painful of all options.
@jeffroutledge9153 Жыл бұрын
@@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi thanks. 👍
@amacd084 жыл бұрын
If a floor is stuck down that good, and there's only one layer, I'd be laying another sheet vinyl right over top.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi4 жыл бұрын
I laid tongue-in-groove engineered hardwood over it, and the elevation had to be exact to meet up with three other entrances. Plus, the old linoleum was not under the base cabinets and I installed my new cabinets in a slightly different location. ... Myriad reasons to remove the old linoleum entirely.
@tourstagez1014 жыл бұрын
Rent a damn floor scraper already. $50, whole job done in an hour. This pains me to watch lol. GOOD LUCK!
@luisbolanos56044 жыл бұрын
That's not true, sometimes i'ts super hard to scrape it with the scraper
@jamesmcinnis2086 жыл бұрын
Why are you calling vinyl linoleum? They're two different products.
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi6 жыл бұрын
Good question. I suppose my terminology is kind of like saying "Kleenex" vs. tissues. Or "Scotch Tape" vs. sellotape or sticky tape. Here is an interesting discussion from 'Resilient Flooring' by Matt Higgins, Issue 256 - December 2015/January 2016 "What's the Difference: Linoleum vs. Vinyl" Flooring options abound-even the options have options. But if you’re looking for inexpensive flooring, especially in a potentially wet area such as a kitchen or bathroom, you’re probably going to consider linoleum and vinyl. Although the terms are often used interchangeably, these materials are not the same. The mention of either sometimes conjures up images of second-rate products, but both have their place. Linoleum and vinyl fall into the category of resilient flooring. According to Michele Zelman of Armstrong, which makes flooring products out of both materials, to call a flooring material resilient means that it can restore its shape. If a heavy object were to land on it, the material wouldn’t necessarily be permanently dented. Linoleum is mostly, but not exclusively, limited to commercial applications. Vinyl is found in numerous residential and commercial applications. Both materials are available in sheets and in tiles.
@Iowawalrus2 жыл бұрын
That's a dremmel blade
@wantonjr18 жыл бұрын
Why not just rip out the luan and linoleum together ?
@videocreationsbyjohnrenzi8 жыл бұрын
+wantonjr1: Good question. Because I needed to keep the exact elevation of the floor so that when I installed the hardwood flooring to follow, it would exactly match the surface of the hardwood flooring in the adjoining hallway and dining room without any transition strips or step in thickness. Also, I happen to know that the 1/4" plywood (not luan) is also glued to a 1/2" plywood sub-floor. So it would be even more trouble removing the 1/4" plywood cleanly from the sub-floor. And there is no way that it would have made sense for me to tear out the floor down to the floor joists. Not only would that have been a bigger and messier job, but would add a whole new set of requirements and difficulties with flush cuts and re-supports/scabbing, etc., around the entire perimeter, including around closet walls, into the laundry room, and so on. Not to mention that with my method shown in the video, our kitchen and laundry room were still fully functional the entire job. And lastly, the original builder did a good job finishing off/filling dips at seams, knots, etc., of the 1/4" plywood with a quality wood filler and I was able to preserve all that without any harm done by my heat gun or scraper.
@wantonjr18 жыл бұрын
Very unusual to have glued down underlayment, but understand Thanks !
@okpeace46874 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Neecee615 Жыл бұрын
Pure acetone would be much easier
@metrowestdude8 жыл бұрын
There gots to be easier way!
@Pro1er8 жыл бұрын
+metrowestdude Spyder scraper on a Sawzall.
@metrowestdude8 жыл бұрын
Pro1er Hmmm. Thanks I'll look into that next time.
@markwadman61854 жыл бұрын
Do not do this - that's asbestos paper backing!
@MrUnknownUser014 жыл бұрын
Not likely. Asbestos vinyl flooring was banned in the US in the late 1970's, with some old stock being installed as late as the early 1980's. This particular Amstrong product was not an asbestos product. If anyone has any question about whether a product contains Asbestos they can test a small piece with a test kit from Home Depot or contact the manufacturer.
@Day-OSeven5SS Жыл бұрын
Hey people. I own my own Asbestos abatement company here in colorado. I’ve been in this industry for 21 years. And the last 3 projects I’ve done had been linoleum. The only way to know if it is asbestos is to test it. Like the other message said. Preferably by a certified building inspector. I am actually sitting in containment struggling with the linoleum I am removing. It’s why I am watching the video. Asbestos was regulated in the United States in 1983. And if someone had a 100,000 sq ft. Warehouse full of asbestos material they can still sell it for use. Manufacturing was banned in ‘83. Not the use. Canada and Mexico still send asbestos containing material still in 2023 to the USA.