Remove the tap using the EDM.

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JamesPark_85 Machining TV

JamesPark_85 Machining TV

Күн бұрын

Welcome.
This video is about removing broken tools.
Thank you!

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@janhammekenbuch142
@janhammekenbuch142 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Always good to see people doing it the right way. A small trick: A piece of duct tape will protect the surrounding area from the sparks, eliminating the need for polishing, in case of a surface tolerance. I had to polish a part for the food industry, after fixing a broken tap. It took forever, due to very fine surface tolerances.
@ILoveAllthingstech
@ILoveAllthingstech Жыл бұрын
I might steal that one from you
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 3 жыл бұрын
EDM is the only way to go on an expensive or irreplaceable part. Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing this.
@jamespark_85machiningtv
@jamespark_85machiningtv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 3 жыл бұрын
@UCB4w8Vl5ZIScSFyxEeZF_JA A ball mill is a shaker that uses steel balls to remove rust and scale. I think you must mean some other kind of a milling tool, but I don't know which.
@omyadav6949
@omyadav6949 3 жыл бұрын
That hole was closed too, It's very difficult job to be done. Any minor mistake can loss a lot of hard work which was done on this components, It was in its final stage, nobody can reject any components by reaching so far.👍
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan Жыл бұрын
This is why thread milling is in my opinion superior.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
I didn't mention a milling tool. Did you mean this in response to Povl Besser's comment? I didn't understand that either.
@brianmccutchan9513
@brianmccutchan9513 3 жыл бұрын
Dull taps are the most expensive tool in most shops.
@tylerhensley2312
@tylerhensley2312 3 жыл бұрын
He opens a box holding an edm machine and the first tool that he pulls out is a hammer!! 🤣
@omyadav6949
@omyadav6949 3 жыл бұрын
Hammer is the best equipment in any engineering, don't you think?🤔😀
@terrellbradshaw3504
@terrellbradshaw3504 2 жыл бұрын
Precision tooling
@2jzhx60
@2jzhx60 2 жыл бұрын
What a great DIY guide. Just have to get my portable EDM tool
@fanman421
@fanman421 3 жыл бұрын
In 1976 I broke a tap off in an engine head (455 Olds) trying to clean the threads in rocker arm supports. Took the head to a machine shop, guy said “no problem” EDM’d the tap out and didn’t touch the threads in the hole. Best $20 I ever spent !!!
@billl7551
@billl7551 2 жыл бұрын
$20 - - those were the days I miss.
@Malledeus86
@Malledeus86 2 жыл бұрын
I was a Wire EDM guy at my last 2 jobs, had a hole popper too for starter holes, and of course this shit haha. You’re the hero of the day when you can fix a party with a tap broke off in it though. Never saw a portable edm though that’s cool.
@tfp777
@tfp777 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best way to remove a broken tap, saved me many times.
@Burnenbrighter
@Burnenbrighter 3 жыл бұрын
I usually just take long punch with a hammer and shatter the tap. Fast simple and easy cleanup. Very effective on taps that size.
@railgap
@railgap 2 жыл бұрын
That's why you won't get hired to remove taps fom work like this.
@gumbomudderx7503
@gumbomudderx7503 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they were gonna remove a broken tap with electronic dance music...
@AJtaste
@AJtaste 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 😂 you nailed it! 😂😂😂😂
@carcomp101
@carcomp101 2 жыл бұрын
We all thought this.
@joonastimonen5114
@joonastimonen5114 2 жыл бұрын
it lowkey sounds like edm music
@justinl.3587
@justinl.3587 3 жыл бұрын
When we break taps on the machine we usually drill them out with carbide GO drills or carbide spade drills. It works almost every time. Always good to have the EDM as a backup though.
@Numnutz
@Numnutz 2 жыл бұрын
was just about to say this, since we mostly use high speed steel taps, we can just drill them out with the same carbide drill that we used for the pilot hole, clean it up and just use the next tap, or, since most of our work is done on cnc mills, in some special cases we mill the thread
@GlennChambers
@GlennChambers 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see. Thank you for sharing this.
@utubeadrianno
@utubeadrianno 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for the BASS to kick in
@TheDandyMann
@TheDandyMann 3 жыл бұрын
Basically the edm version of a magdrill. Pretty Cool
@hztn
@hztn 3 жыл бұрын
Surface is damaged a little, and has caverns. If it's a sealing surface for a hydraulic flange - there can be a leaking. It can be remachined by cutting off around a mm from radial surface, but not every part allow to do that.
@marcusnilsson7284
@marcusnilsson7284 2 жыл бұрын
0,3-0,5mm would be enough but true that there may not be that tolerance for it
@jasonruch3529
@jasonruch3529 3 жыл бұрын
We have a tap burner,,,same thing,,just has it's own table,,works FANTASTIC!
@3duckit
@3duckit 2 жыл бұрын
I do the same work but with a waterjet. Even blind holes. Mine is messier and louder but same results. Thanks for the video.
@matthewcncsutton5283
@matthewcncsutton5283 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@robconcep644
@robconcep644 Ай бұрын
I would TIG weld a bolt to it and twist it out of the hole. But your way is really cool. Excellent videos. Sincerely Robert
@alexeyzdec2316
@alexeyzdec2316 3 жыл бұрын
Я пластилином вылепливвю ванну вокруг заломыша и не засираю всё вокруг продуктами эрозии...
@Googl_otstoy
@Googl_otstoy 2 жыл бұрын
Раковины образовались
@maxxbor5634
@maxxbor5634 2 жыл бұрын
также делал
@naveedakhtarahmad6513
@naveedakhtarahmad6513 3 жыл бұрын
V.v good Excellent
@metalripper-
@metalripper- 2 жыл бұрын
Unsung heroes of our industry
@nikolaiownz
@nikolaiownz 3 жыл бұрын
I was a olympic master at running this at my old work. Haha
@Bibibosh
@Bibibosh 3 жыл бұрын
A master at breaking small taps too.
@backho12
@backho12 2 жыл бұрын
I learned that the key to not breaking a tap is to stop one half turn before it breaks.
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 3 жыл бұрын
Useful machine.
@andyking9673
@andyking9673 2 жыл бұрын
where on the Challenger did this part mount?
@alihassantruck8351
@alihassantruck8351 3 жыл бұрын
Good looking Job
@Bart_Depestele
@Bart_Depestele 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job amigo
@robertbednarek1425
@robertbednarek1425 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@vigorousedm
@vigorousedm 2 жыл бұрын
Nice EDM machine
@dudet9662
@dudet9662 2 жыл бұрын
when you break the thing that removes broken things, you know the boss is gonna sit you down for a chat about, you know, the thing.
@briangaudet7661
@briangaudet7661 3 жыл бұрын
you can some times burn a hex and use an allen wrench to work it out if not then the hammer
@machinist1337
@machinist1337 3 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic coupling?
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing a machinist or tool maker hates more than a broken tap .
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 2 жыл бұрын
@DO NOT RESPOND If they broke , they can fix it .
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 2 жыл бұрын
@DO NOT RESPOND The world can go south in a very ugly way
@danojames8329
@danojames8329 3 жыл бұрын
Kool dat waz awesome 👌
@TheAlfieobanz
@TheAlfieobanz 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, JP.
@dgb5820
@dgb5820 2 жыл бұрын
Next time I break a tap I’ll call the thunderbirds to hire out their flux capacitor
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 2 жыл бұрын
poss better to use dilithium crystals ??
@lonestar1775
@lonestar1775 3 жыл бұрын
Our shop also has one of these. I have never used it though.
@arthurmorgan8966
@arthurmorgan8966 2 жыл бұрын
Not a machinist here, stupid question: Is it possible to weld or braze something to tip of the broken piece, then try to remove it by unscrewing? (Since this machine exists, I suppose no. But why.)
@retro80s80
@retro80s80 2 жыл бұрын
Walton tap extractor and Wd40 10 mins job done......
@Skeez002
@Skeez002 2 жыл бұрын
Beats pecking it with a junk endmill, hole poppers are a life saver!
@dj6769
@dj6769 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen an EDM at first I thought it was a magnetic drill that’s slicker than snot. (I usually take a blow nozzle to clear debris from a hole with a rag covering flying shrapnel.)
@wesley1045
@wesley1045 3 жыл бұрын
Hello ... what a beautiful option ... I had never thought of doing so. Thanks for the tip.
@codyamrhein8965
@codyamrhein8965 2 жыл бұрын
So is a tap removal tool wired to start with? I bet my tap removal set is super cheap compared to that thing.
@rugger8787
@rugger8787 2 жыл бұрын
see that part all most scraped because of one little tap is scary
@StanislavPacourek
@StanislavPacourek 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@ashrafsharaf7707
@ashrafsharaf7707 2 жыл бұрын
How much does this edm drill?
@John-pm5qi
@John-pm5qi 2 жыл бұрын
Ive never seen this done before, so fucking cool lol
@coryproffitt8676
@coryproffitt8676 3 жыл бұрын
ok that's cool.
@scottcrawford2610
@scottcrawford2610 3 жыл бұрын
I would have had it out by the time you finished setting up that machine.
@themanthemyththelegend1392
@themanthemyththelegend1392 2 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly, someones marketing department really did a number on the contractor that machines these....
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 2 жыл бұрын
The requirements for the job may have consisted of more than just "get the tap out".
@pasupatikumarjha4110
@pasupatikumarjha4110 3 жыл бұрын
EDM process tap remove wow
@afzaalusmani3115
@afzaalusmani3115 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@michaelnippert945
@michaelnippert945 2 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with EDM we use it to put slots and cooling holes in repair jet engine parts
@user-zk5pv2go2o
@user-zk5pv2go2o 3 жыл бұрын
Эрозионкой выжигают метчик. Прикольный аппарат.
@bogey19018
@bogey19018 2 жыл бұрын
What exactly does that machine do?
@vikramdidolivikramdidoli9314
@vikramdidolivikramdidoli9314 3 жыл бұрын
Sir aluminium kay ander say tap nikal sakta h kya
@RingTuned
@RingTuned 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I finished the video look at that heat effected zone. That material no longer has these structural strength it was originally rated to have. You have now created a crack point
@mtn.srlrascu6675
@mtn.srlrascu6675 2 жыл бұрын
Was with liquid bro, look again
@MariusFourie
@MariusFourie 2 жыл бұрын
Heat? What heat? It was covered in coolant the whole time
@RingTuned
@RingTuned 2 жыл бұрын
@@mtn.srlrascu6675 yes however you can still see the heat effected zone liquid takes some heat away not all.
@mtn.srlrascu6675
@mtn.srlrascu6675 2 жыл бұрын
@@RingTuned it is from electricity that area not from heat. You can have so much heat in the same time with the liquid. It is impossible. Electricity create that area strange like that. I have one to clean stainless steel with the electric arc. It is normal if you look in industrial appliances how is works.
@hartmutthomas989
@hartmutthomas989 2 жыл бұрын
Ja klasse . mach ich bei mir zu Hause auch genau mit der gleichen Maschine 🥱
@NORTHBROOK1978
@NORTHBROOK1978 3 жыл бұрын
We use our hole popper for this all the time.
@gregpenner2876
@gregpenner2876 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one. I got sick and tired of drilling out work hardened exhaust manifold bolts…then the drill bit snaps off. There’s a kit for limited clearance you can attach as well that’s shorter than a 90° drill as well. If it saves my ass at least twice I’ll have gotten my monies worth out of it. Then there’s hex electrodes as well so you can use an Allen wrench instead of snapping off easy outs as well. I’ll give it a try. If it works,cool. If not…I’ve wasted more money on booze and women than that.
@user-wd2pm6so2x
@user-wd2pm6so2x 3 жыл бұрын
Где снимали? Страна?
@mrg8172
@mrg8172 2 жыл бұрын
Wow they made that look difficult Now I know who broke the tap
@t.d.mich.7064
@t.d.mich.7064 3 жыл бұрын
As a Diemaker I've tapped thousands of holes. Never broke any taps. Not! EDM is the only way to go. Carbide drills and shattering taps with a punch are wives tales. If a tap breaks off, it's in the hole to stay. Excessive torque broke it off, and intermittent cutting a broken one will almost always destroy a carbide drill bit. Punching it out destroys the threads in the hole.
@fanman421
@fanman421 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.... had one EDM removed from an engine head in 1976. Best $20 I ever spent.
@NitrogenPurged
@NitrogenPurged 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question. The hole thats then made tgrough the tap. Easy out or similar to extract? Still! Great job.
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 2 жыл бұрын
he broke it in to pieces
@stevenherlein8282
@stevenherlein8282 3 жыл бұрын
Aww come on EDM now that's cheating !! Get your tap extractor out like the rest of us 😳😳
@fanman421
@fanman421 3 жыл бұрын
LOL 😂
@cnchunter1747
@cnchunter1747 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@eformance
@eformance 2 жыл бұрын
I bet that'll be fun to passivate.
@wrong2h8
@wrong2h8 3 жыл бұрын
Snap Off brand?
@fuckel2856
@fuckel2856 3 жыл бұрын
Наш бы слесарь дядя Витя эту хрень за 5 минут выкрутил
@alexeyzdec2316
@alexeyzdec2316 3 жыл бұрын
Писюном?
@Mr_Flybacker
@Mr_Flybacker 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexeyzdec2316 если обломил неглубоко, можно попробовать зубилом ударяя выкрутить. Мне как-то помогло. тут же без вариантов - на полную глубину обломило.
@alexeyzdec2316
@alexeyzdec2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Flybacker так я и говорю об этом конкретном случае.
@martinblank1484
@martinblank1484 21 күн бұрын
Hummm...different type of EDM
@nikoturpeinen2299
@nikoturpeinen2299 2 жыл бұрын
Thats like shooting a fly with the shotgun
@drzorkloft2
@drzorkloft2 3 жыл бұрын
Drill bit + Easy out ..but I guess firing the laser is more fun ?
@viru52000
@viru52000 3 жыл бұрын
Most normal drill bits are the same steel as a tap, same with an easy out. It's also not a laser...
@williammunford476
@williammunford476 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work sr.👍👌🏜
@iplmachining
@iplmachining 3 жыл бұрын
carbide em 4 flute 2500 rpm f.0003 will do same thing i do it all the time ;good jab any way
@tonywright8294
@tonywright8294 3 жыл бұрын
What is the smallest tap it can remove. 1.5 mm ?
@koharaisevo3666
@koharaisevo3666 3 жыл бұрын
I think It can remove any size of tap.
@jamespark_85machiningtv
@jamespark_85machiningtv 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply.If it uses small electrode rods, it can be small. I haven't tried it, but I think it would be possible if I worked 1.5mm carefully.
@Aviatortoha
@Aviatortoha 3 жыл бұрын
В ответственных конструкциях не прокатит. Металл в отверстии подвергся электролизу. То есть термическиму и химическому изменению.
@alexeyzdec2316
@alexeyzdec2316 3 жыл бұрын
Это примерно 0,01 процент от всех случаев )))
@davidkubicki2564
@davidkubicki2564 Жыл бұрын
The most horrible noise when a tap snaps and you have a gut reaction on how to get it out.
@stalkinghawk9244
@stalkinghawk9244 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen with a carbide burr in a similar rugged setup
@iaial0
@iaial0 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it conducts electricity an EDM can eat through it
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 2 жыл бұрын
@@iaial0 I think he's saying, what if you were to use a carbide burr in a mag drill to grind the tap out.
@Bikelifeusa
@Bikelifeusa 3 жыл бұрын
People at NASA will not notice that
@DVESTI-35
@DVESTI-35 3 жыл бұрын
Ну ты даёшь))) ...ребята, а есть кто-нибудь по проще?)))
@markus6787
@markus6787 3 жыл бұрын
Мы на работе высверливаем четырёх угольным сверлом.
@alexeyzdec2316
@alexeyzdec2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@markus6787 это что за сверло такое? 4х угольное да еще сверлит термообработанный инструмент? Попахивает брехнёй....
@Pisya_Kamushkin_3705
@Pisya_Kamushkin_3705 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexeyzdec2316 в ваш колхоз ещё не завезли.
@alexeyzdec2316
@alexeyzdec2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pisya_Kamushkin_3705 наш то колхоз посреди европы.
@Mr_Flybacker
@Mr_Flybacker 3 жыл бұрын
можно попробовать твёрдосплавным сверлом высверлить. такое сверло делается из бура для перфоратора.
@pezaaqildankaisar605
@pezaaqildankaisar605 3 жыл бұрын
only need to use magnetic drills and modified cement drills tool points and drills at medium speed
@rajasakthikumarrajendran5806
@rajasakthikumarrajendran5806 3 жыл бұрын
What is the meaning of wear margin
@sembhi8767
@sembhi8767 3 жыл бұрын
You can use tap remover also
@himanshudekate6010
@himanshudekate6010 3 жыл бұрын
Vary simpa method to remove the tool First to foll you want to t type round Bar and the aje and tool have conect and make arc welding after welding. T type round bar is one type of remove tool and remove.
@mattiasarvidsson8522
@mattiasarvidsson8522 Жыл бұрын
just throw the part in the recycling bin and start over ;)
@mariuszsmykla7506
@mariuszsmykla7506 3 жыл бұрын
From some time there are drills for such action. Regards
@radesigninc
@radesigninc 3 жыл бұрын
Never does blend the same
3 жыл бұрын
Pensei que ia extrair do jeito tradicional, pontiando até dá pra pegar com o alicate😂🤣🤝👏👏
@skidlyane
@skidlyane 3 жыл бұрын
EuroDanceMusic😅🤣😂✌
@milinddudhe774
@milinddudhe774 3 жыл бұрын
What happened if this hole is blind ? And how we can remove the remaining part of broken tool?
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 2 жыл бұрын
This is a blind hole. Maybe you're thinking that this is wire EDM?
@bhavarkumavat3202
@bhavarkumavat3202 3 жыл бұрын
Uses SandPaper , to cover tracks so no one knows , I have been accustomed to the sandpaper 😇
@handygent45
@handygent45 2 жыл бұрын
He should have coated the stainless around the hole to avoid the pitting, and no need for sandpaper. Also, what's up with the gloves? He must be afraid to get his hands dirty.
@supercleanone8038
@supercleanone8038 3 жыл бұрын
3/8” solid carbide end mill, 2000 rpm, break what’s left out
@bigjimar77
@bigjimar77 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely try that first.
@neilholmes2572
@neilholmes2572 3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure out what the part is. Looks like a large cylinder liner apart from those horizontal bore marks. Shame he didn't tell us. But if its high carbon steel and the tap is itself carbide then the mill won't work of course. Also there's the danger the tap will move and smash your end mill, possibly damaging the part. I reckon they went for the safest option here.
@anjankisku4078
@anjankisku4078 2 жыл бұрын
How much cost That EDM MACHINE?
@shawnam564
@shawnam564 3 жыл бұрын
Just use a easy out for taps
@RingTuned
@RingTuned 2 жыл бұрын
It's spent 30 plus minutes and probably charged the customer $1000 for something that can be fixed with a hammer and a hardened center punch in 15 seconds. The great thing about taps especially when they are that large they are very hard which makes them very brittle they explode when hit with a punch.
@jonatitoelcortijo9510
@jonatitoelcortijo9510 3 жыл бұрын
Vitoorrrrr
@aguinaldocastro6915
@aguinaldocastro6915 3 жыл бұрын
Muito interessante a máquina,porém muito caro o processo, aqui tiramos o macho quebrado com 5 min com um custo quase a zero,um ponto de solda e uma porca usada.
@user-qc1fz8iv1l
@user-qc1fz8iv1l 2 жыл бұрын
H2SO4-and no problem.
@jaydenritchie6351
@jaydenritchie6351 3 жыл бұрын
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