New M2 is BMW’s Top Gun! First Drive!
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Welcome back to RBR guys! I’m in Phoenix Arizona, for the first drive of the flagship #BMWM car - This is the new #BMW G87 M2.
#TheM2 - the original was the first of its name, and in short time became M’s biggest selling model with them delivering over 60,000 units. And why not, we all love the original M2, in all of its variants. From the characterful N55 engine original, to the dynamic and brutish S55 that made the Competition and CS instant classics!
But that’s really the problem isn’t it. An instant classic is a hard act to follow, and that’s what the G87 is tasked with.
The formula is thankfully pure: a 6 cylinder 3.0 S58 engine, giving up to 550NM, and 460 BHP, 10 more than the last CS - with your choice of manual or auto to a pure RWD car. It also has all the chassis technology and rigidity measures from M3 and M4 like, including M Adam price suspension and unique struts.
It has the same front and rear axles as the M4, thus Track widths are identical which means it’s wide as hell, 3.3 cm wider than the old one, and actually lower!
I love the design. I want to share the design sketches they did with you, because I love them, and they really impart where they’re going with on this. Inside deserves a deep dive too, with the new Curved Display and numerous BMW M touches!
We will also go over all the M2 M performance parts of this generation, as there are a tonne of them!
But with so much similar to M4, and weight almost the same too - in my humble opinion it has an uphill battle, can it be good enough to convince us to pay that much more, vs buying the brilliant old one? Let’s find out today!
Up next on RBR is the new BMW XM first drive in the USA, and then a surprise video at Top Gear! Subscribe to support us and see them first. :)
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@RemoveBeforeRace Жыл бұрын
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@kreigerbailey3550 Жыл бұрын
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!
@thehawkguy Жыл бұрын
So disappointing ugly. Looks like a 2015
@user-iz2qo7lq6o 6 ай бұрын
I hate your reviews.
@davidclutterbuck7076 Жыл бұрын
Goodness me. I am 68 tomorrow and have a build for week 38. I have never had a car like this, so will scare myself to death, but. .. why not. Thoroughly enjoyed your enthusiasm and knowledge . Keep it up, young man!
@hairyfishcakes Жыл бұрын
Get your money out and live…
@gianni_schicchi Жыл бұрын
My M2CS was my first new car and first manual at 38. Everyone gets old, but not everyone ages. The M differential and MDM mode software are very confidence-inducing. It's a car you can grow into and keep turning down the computer controls as you do. Enjoy it!
@abcdLeeXY Жыл бұрын
68 years old spend a little more and enjoy a real sports car like Porsche. They don’t break like these plastic BMW.
@shiugen676 Жыл бұрын
@@gianni_schicchi I'd add having moved back to BMW recently, best car manufacturer in the word. Recently test drove M4, M2, i4 M50. Went with M50 (I have free charging so was hard to pass up). I had an Audi RS3 on 2 weeks from delivery, but cancelled, I just couldn't pay 111k euros (ireland) for a car worth 50k. I found that the quality in and out of BMW to be A LOT better and closer to 100k+ worth of car for the money.
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
@@abcdLeeXY That would be true in 2010s but now a days
@Gabcip Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who is positive about the package as a whole and has a genuine opinion beyond the expected. Real car journalism for real prospective buyers
@drewsykes8152 Жыл бұрын
The brutal squares and few but pronounced lines are so refreshing in this age of excessive swooshiness, squinty fronts and oversized grills. Love it and the lack of the big toothy M4 style grill. The shape of the lights is also nicer than any I’ve seen for a long time. Stripped back minimalism combined with characterful flourishes. Design masterpiece.
@jamesterakazis6624 10 ай бұрын
Meh...Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio all day long and twice on Sunday over this....
@HotRodM4 Жыл бұрын
I love how BMW is always tempting Mr AMG 😁
@E60.M5 Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite M2 vid I've watched! Well done! Beats carwows, Joe Achilies etc Super in depth details and animations/transitions! 😍
@kunalmore5212 Жыл бұрын
I think American car reviewers are the shittiest of all! Love British car reviewers way more!
@alonkanibalovsky5018 Жыл бұрын
Fax
@gianni_schicchi Жыл бұрын
No offence to carwow and Joe, but they tend to just “yes good” to everything, especially M cars. I think the straight pipes, Matt Farrah and this channel gave balanced reviews
@kunalmore5212 Жыл бұрын
@@gianni_schicchi pathetic. Mercedes fan boy
@ok-bg1we Жыл бұрын
@lounger540 totaly agree, its because they dont want to upset carmakers
@creativersd Жыл бұрын
the editing of your videos are what keeps bringing me back to this channel
@eliotsalandybrown Жыл бұрын
🤩 Mate your special effects are helpful and your comments are concise and informative 👌 Thanks for the wicked content!
@deanfisher1656 Жыл бұрын
Video work on this was great. Review super informative. Love your enthusiasm for fast cars that are well engineered. If I were building one this would be it.😊
@Raziel_91 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, i’ve been waiting for the RBR review of this! Thanks! And Ramadan Mubarik, Raz!
@kayronmercieca8226 Жыл бұрын
By far the best review I've watched to date, and I've basically watched all of them as I await my BMW M2 G87 to arrive in August.
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
Congrats dude 😁 Have fun with it
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
Best M2 review I have seen so far but I was waiting for your opinion on the manual variant 😁
@claytondavenport6207 7 ай бұрын
I just ordered mine today. Zandvoort blue, black wheels, red calipers, standard seats, hud, shadow line w/ lighting package, and parking assist. Kept its pretty stock looking and now have to wait for a dealers spot to place the order, then wait for it to be built. Sucks waiting for something you’re really looking forward to driving.
@richardmesser1091 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work from the blind stylists at BMW
@micahdavidmorningstar4176 Жыл бұрын
As always you don't disappoint and you you look like you genuinely enjoyed the ride❤
@benbustama3430 Жыл бұрын
12:50 is spot on! Awesome whip. 🔥👏👍🏎My only complaint is the ridiculous computer screens replacing analog gauges! Agree with all your comments. Great vid; great M2! Cheers/B
@glennbellamy7004 Жыл бұрын
Best M2 video I've seen ! Great knowledge and vision ! Well done fella !
@ThePublisher-jl6bz Жыл бұрын
Enthusiastic as always, thanks for the M2 renders, helps understand the design queues. I believe the M2C will be the one to have so we shall wait.
@ToBeOrNotToBeThatIsTheQuestion Жыл бұрын
I just can't unsee a mid 90s Ford Mondeo exterior look.
@ivo3840 Жыл бұрын
Certainly better than the new C63s😂
@sheldoncoffelt1891 Жыл бұрын
As if I'd take either of the turds in the first place. Old cars aren't going to magically disappear and they're far cheaper.
@bannarongpichyakorn785 Жыл бұрын
very good and informative review. keep up the good works.
@MegaRetr Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite M2 vid I've watched!
@TonmoyGhosh Жыл бұрын
I have an e46 m3 and e92 m3 in my garage. I find myself standing there just admiring how good both of them look. I can’t see myself doing the same with this car.
@radupiscanu1299 Жыл бұрын
He's a respected reviewer but i can't for the life of me understand how the F*** can he like this abomination and hate the g42 looks.
@TonmoyGhosh Жыл бұрын
@@radupiscanu1299 oh I can. How do you ensure you get to drive press cars and continue get invited to press events by BMW? Don’t bash the car
@timfung9535 Жыл бұрын
I like you keep saying it looks great for this new M2. It just so brave to keep saying this, good job.
@grsept1 Жыл бұрын
Out of all these early launch reviews , this was the best. By far. Even considering the smooth , straight roads. 🤣
@michelvermeulen61 Жыл бұрын
After riding the amazing M240i xDrive who is a faster sprinter versus the regular M2 because of is AWD, I'm gonna wait for the M2C AWD who can put the power down sharper with more horses under the hood. Nice review !
@chrisslater3174 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a kit car. Especially against the much more resolved previous gen, which is surely now set to become even more desirable. Good review, though!
@senoow4215 Жыл бұрын
@Capt Hook yeah def could be a lot better if they took 5 more minutes on it lol
@scostat Жыл бұрын
In terms of exterior design, it seems like the graphics didnt renderized yet.
@richardmesser1091 Жыл бұрын
Bigger heavier more expensive, what a formula
@Del_987 Жыл бұрын
This review is in another league compared to other KZfaqrs.
@michaelcocheci3696 Жыл бұрын
Best m2 review so far ! Well done, Sir!
@Imadboumzaoued 11 ай бұрын
This is the fastest Lego I've ever seen lmao
@maximeb.2159 Жыл бұрын
Did you try the manual version or not? Thanks for the video, fantastic as always! 👍
@jborthodoc Жыл бұрын
Great vid. And I like your Mperf parts picks
@TheHoosiers2008 Жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to come!
@hairyfishcakes Жыл бұрын
It was a joke
@TheHoosiers2008 Жыл бұрын
@@hairyfishcakes What was a joke? Apparently you’re the one that’s confused.
@hairyfishcakes Жыл бұрын
@@TheHoosiers2008 I’m a bot you’re a bod
@DnBDubstepManiak1 Жыл бұрын
M240i and M2 seem to do an incredible job, but those looks... such a shame BMW took it way to far, the previous M2 looked so much better.
@lukamilas8648 8 ай бұрын
Engineers were on crack cocaine when they designed this.
@DrSaahb Жыл бұрын
Great video. Definitely cannot wait to see these cars on UK roads.
@aneebaba06 Жыл бұрын
I hope you're right about the looks long-term, but right now I'm not much of a fan of it. Even though I've gone EV (i4 M50) being a BMW driver myself, I'm excited by the new cars from the brand and it's great to see the M2 being loved so far. Also good to see you wearing M gear /pining after Ms instead of AMGs for a bit. 😈 Also commented on Joe's video that I kind of wish with the exhaust-y car reviews that you and him were either based in the US or American lol
@chernobijl Жыл бұрын
Excellent review .... love your honest enthusiasm. You've sold me - Heading online to order one right now. Sapphire Black methinks !!
@infidel900rr Жыл бұрын
Nice review, I'm starting to want one! 😁
@dalovering Жыл бұрын
Aghhh I get mine in a few weeks, I’m so excited! Been waiting 1.5yrs
@bartlemy Жыл бұрын
Been a while dude- was missing your videos!
@verhu010 Жыл бұрын
If they can hire a decent designer they'll leave MB and Audi in the dust.
@chamaldealwis9 Жыл бұрын
They already have 😂 can't monopolise the market though, must be eu legislation not approving their old design philosophy to keep the field competitive haha
@Gasser24769 Жыл бұрын
Na mate this m2 looks iconic already
@DaleSteel Жыл бұрын
Wtf you talking about. This car looks stunning. Too many short sighted ppl like you stuck in the past
@henzo7087 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice but not in this color. This needs dark colors
@Champagnebaba0 Жыл бұрын
@@henzo7087 yea because dark colors hides the atrocious design 😂😂 a good design works in every color. EDIT: The m2 is actually beatiful it looks so much better than the release photos 😂😂
@alvinwang1125 Жыл бұрын
Really like your videos.Good and valuable comments💪
@dukat8456 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the weight much? M2 3814lbs (1730kg) crazyness
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
If only they’d offer an M-Sport accessory that made 200 pounds disappear. As it stands, this M2 weighs very nearly as much as a B9 Audi S4. What were they thinking? Oh, I know, they were thinking about the cost savings of plugging to M2 straight into the M3/4 platform.
@johnspartan88 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree, makes it a no-go for me
@honestreviewer3283 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the way you show the cars in series. While I still think the new version isn't particularly attractive, I like how it looks longer and lower and more athletic than the previous generation M2, which in my opinion looked overweight and too bulky compared to the 235 and 228 models.
@igosmart-proigsp9526 Жыл бұрын
Great review. We have sun visor mounts for your recordings if you need.
@scotth1074 Жыл бұрын
What do we think of the Brooklyn grey? I love that look of it but wondering if I could live with it.
@collinhayes9509 Жыл бұрын
For the same price I could get 991 911. Would you suggest a ten year old 911, or 2023 m2 as a daily/GT/track car? I currently have an nd2 Miata so either will be a big upgrade (GT wise)
@dirkbednarek3370 Жыл бұрын
Indeed very nice comparison with the M Performance parts. 👍
@hairyfishcakes Жыл бұрын
Watched it twice already….. what a car!!
@Marc-nc9yv Жыл бұрын
I have the M4 comp xdrive and love it, but would you take the M2 or the M4 comp xdrive?
@mastermastromastello Жыл бұрын
Why BMW gives free LSD to their designers, during the coffee break ?
@blitzkreig000 11 ай бұрын
I’d probably leave out the wheels as well. You can probably get much better motorsport wheels for significantly less money and they would look better as well. Center lock feature is only beneficial in niche scenarios anyways. That should save a couple thousand just there.
@Nyder Жыл бұрын
I agree we all do love the M2 and all of it's iterations. First generation for that motor. Second gen competition for that upgraded interior (and it's motor too, but first gen motor has much better aftermarket). Critics say this new M2 is great as well. Can't get past that grill, though. Although it is much better than the other current M cars.
@user-my4xu4gf1z 5 ай бұрын
U can change the grille on all new bmw cars theres plenty of aftermarket options. Adro, vorstiener, csl. They all look great imo and make ur car different from others.
@terrytibbs6687 Жыл бұрын
😂 are the BMW M designers on mushrooms all day 🍄 😂
@dallysingh4530 Жыл бұрын
Just when I thought BMW designs couldn’t get any worse, they’ve managed to push the envelope for most hideous design. The old M2 was an absolutely stunning car. I personally think this is worse than the current generation M3/M4.
@jashcroft1 Жыл бұрын
Even though I never liked BMW, the M4 growed in me. I used to think the M4 was hideous and then I went ahead and started the purchase process for a M4. This was because there were no RS5 at all and I really wanted one... then a RS5 appeared fully loaded and I went for that and never looked back... I have to agree with you on this, I don't like this M2 at all... it looks like a toy car
@YairDeR Жыл бұрын
the m4 is disgusting in a design regard. the M3 is absolutely gorgeous
@ertugrulbae46 Жыл бұрын
M3 M4 actually work in real life. The grille looks really big and vertical but in real life..its quite low..under your knees..and pictures don't show that. But I still prefer previous gen. I'd still rather get Vorsteiner grille upgrade..or even the full fat ADRO front bumper + grille redesign
@dallysingh4530 Жыл бұрын
@@ertugrulbae46 Just looked at the ADRO front bumper and that's how the M3/M4 should've come out from the factory. Looks absolutely immense. Totally get your point about the angle when viewing the grille. For me it's just about palatable if the car is in black as the front blends in a lot more with the rest of the vehicle. I've seen quite a few in person now and they just don't in-still the same feeling as the last generation of M cars. I'm giving this generation a miss. Hoping BMW come to their senses for the next M cars.
@ertugrulbae46 Жыл бұрын
@@dallysingh4530 I like the adro grille. No brainer. If I purchased an M3/M4..its the first option I'd get straight away. But it isn't perfect. I'm not quite sure about the angle of the side air intakes, I prefer the original with carbon fibre inlets..but overall its a good tradeoff. People don't like thr shark fin nose design..I quite like it. It gives aggression. But previous gen is definitely a looker. This..not quite.
@francisgomes9976 Жыл бұрын
There is a 3900-4000 pounds elephant in the room. So much for "small nimble agile little" sports pocket rocket
@Sergesedd22 Жыл бұрын
Great review!
@gregorygant4242 Жыл бұрын
Great car by BMW , FANTASTIC color there man , looks super cool ! This is a real driver's car , yeah !
@Smokedship 2 ай бұрын
I’d love your opinion on the Manual option of the G87 Manual.
@schrimpf Жыл бұрын
Looks great in sapphire black!
@aviator-kn8zq Жыл бұрын
hides the boxy lines
@schrimpf Жыл бұрын
@@aviator-kn8zq exactly!
@hpman911 Жыл бұрын
Trying to keep a black car clean is a nightmare as every swirl and scratch shows up immediately. They only look good the minute after you have washed them and before the dust settles.
@schrimpf Жыл бұрын
@@hpman911 naa, it’s not thaaat bad. My current BMW is painted in sapphire black. May be silver metallic needs less care. But in my mind so-called non-colors like black and white look elegant and timeless.
@hpman911 Жыл бұрын
@@schrimpf totally agree what you say about white, a really easy colour to clean and look good but by my experience any kind of black is a total nightmare.
@markellospanagiotopoulos1094 Жыл бұрын
Nice lego car i ll keep my f87 m2cs
@stephenwilliamson8012 Жыл бұрын
Performance seems right on the money, I’m just not sure about the direction they went with the exterior design. I briefly had an OG M2 (it’s a sad story) and one of the things I loved about it was the simplicity of the interior. The interior seemed to match the driving experience, especially since mine was a manual.
@cwx8 Жыл бұрын
Classic bmw with functional design vs this monstrosity with random bits tacked everywhere.
@irahmani649 Жыл бұрын
Nice entry Gohan 👌
@danieldvorkin5992 Жыл бұрын
How does it compare with your experience driving the RS3?
@michaelschneider1365 Жыл бұрын
seriously hope to get this, the 228m grand coup or a 330i with an m package. hopefully definitely getting it in late 2024/early 2025 when my mini countryman lease is up.
@khodges2 10 ай бұрын
The Wolverine Claws are called Canards. Apparently it’s needed aero for a track vehicle.
@oskii100 Жыл бұрын
I love it! One day ill get this car.
@Zulkinstein8 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great video
@arymonem Жыл бұрын
Wonderful ! I can’t wait to get one
@twojstary_666 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame it looks how it looks... I really wanted to get a new M2 but with the looks and weight, I would rather go straight to the M4. M2 seems like a great toy car, but the way it looks it just hurts - couldn't own a car that I hate to look at :D The M Performance front splitter and lower air insterts should be default M2 setup not optional... Hopefully the aftermarket parts will fix the weird looks.
@tcaudiobooks737 Жыл бұрын
If you squint really hard, it actually looks like a proper BMW.
@timfung9535 Жыл бұрын
I think BMW had no choice to make the new M2 ugly, otherwise it will had great impact to the sell figure of M4.
@JayAlba8 Жыл бұрын
Is the sound pumped through the speakers?
@MidtownMeezus 11 ай бұрын
I feel like I watch just cuz this guy flies in DBZ style next to the newest and nicest whips imaginable. Literally a dream
@Airbag1010674 Жыл бұрын
Is this eastern Phoenix near apache trail? Would love to know this road. Thanks.
@officalrari5328 Жыл бұрын
I understand you reviewers love manuals and thats great but most people dont drive manuals.. all the reviews ive seen on the M2 so far are with manual transmissions , most of the people that are going to buy this will get an automatic trans .. it would be nice if you guys would review that. Love the channel though
@markburton5170 Жыл бұрын
I have watched lots of reviews and I haven't seen a single one with a manual, like this review they are all of the automatic version, where have you seen a review of a manual one?
@markburton5170 Жыл бұрын
I want a manual one to replace my manual M2 competition
@6pistons Жыл бұрын
At least the front fascia doesn't look goofy, so that's good.
@tommy516 Жыл бұрын
From the side it’s an explosion of shapes
@Gasser24769 Жыл бұрын
Looks awesome from the front I love the two vent tings😂
@tommy516 Жыл бұрын
@@Gasser24769 they do look like jet air intakes, he’s correct!
@shim247365 Жыл бұрын
Would have been nice if an M sport option was available to enhance the front end and rear with exhaust tips 😢
@STICKSHFT 10 ай бұрын
i love the m2 but after adding the optional upgrades that id want and the fact that its the same weight and price (as spec'd) as the m3 i think id just go with the m3 and have a more usable interior and better daily practicality
@shanebagnall1979 Жыл бұрын
Another superb review of this magnificent new M2. I initially was not a fan of this new model, compared to your blue CS, but I have completely changed my view on this M2 (except for those ugly DRL’s. Far prefer the iconic BMW DRL’s from the previous model) The stance or presence on the road, is magnetically seductive……absolutely perfect. The increase in cabin space and complete upgrade in tech is welcomed. The engine and transmission are typically brilliant from BMW M. Personally, I would purchase this car with only the 21”/20” wheel upgrade in black + the carbon fibre roof. The one big negative to me, is that the M240i + M2 is going to be built in Mexico. If I want to buy an M2, it must come out of Germany. I’m a traditionalist of quality German manufacturing and assembly.
@poolking36 Жыл бұрын
Jaysis did you,joe Achilles and matt Watson all fly in on the same plane to Phoenix to review the same car lol?
@brianschultz7320 Жыл бұрын
How does this car compare to the RS3 and CT4-V Blackwing?
@timfung9535 Жыл бұрын
The car shown on 0:45 is so beautiful and hope the new M2 looklike this.
@murrynathan Жыл бұрын
Looks like a 1990s Pontiac Grand Prix!
@stephen7627 Жыл бұрын
To bad it doenst look as good as the previus one , cuz it was one of the best looking bmw out there ....
@galeto007 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are THE BEST! I'm sure it's an amazing car, but that boxy front end............maybe it will grow on me?
@robiulahmed 6 ай бұрын
That styling is brutishly good looking.
@ertugrulbae46 Жыл бұрын
I quite like the rear body, not the lights tho. I just hate the front. The square intakes really piss me off on a spiritual level. Also the horizontal grilles which don't have a frame. And that blac mid intakes area which is basically just a rectangle hole to me I don't know why BMW is scatty with the steering wheel. It's been going on for about 8-9 years now on every model. Same wheel. The new 7 series finally changed it but every other car is still stuck with jt
@mrminiature11 Жыл бұрын
Feels like this generation of mercedes cars look better but seems like these BMWs drive much better. If BMW didn't go so crazy with the design, they would've dominated every car sector.
@DistantLightInThe Жыл бұрын
I guess its a matter of personal opinion because I feel my M4 G generation is far better looking than the previous F gen M4 but this M2 compared to the previous, can't say the same. Of course its about the driving experience mainly but that's what has stood out to me
@chanhyung88 Жыл бұрын
Obviously you are biased. I think g82 is butt ugly compared to the f82 😂 and most agree with me. Only a handful people will say g82 is even close to the looks of f82.
@chamaldealwis9 Жыл бұрын
F82 is a masterclass in design g82 got nothing on it
@dfend451 Жыл бұрын
BMW, I salute your brave and bold design language. It's totally BAD ASS and ANGRY!!!
@lukamilas8648 8 ай бұрын
You need to stop smoking crack
@fabf3512 Жыл бұрын
man its so weird. i hate the design but every time i see it, i begin to hate it less and less. it almost seems like the design is ahead of its time.. who knows
@nigeljameshughes3722 Жыл бұрын
Biggest thing that puts me off is the lower air in takes, its a giant fly catcher. Your going to be cleaning that s lot
@mikediazArtist Жыл бұрын
I don’t like how the competition spec is not available right away like it was for the g80. I don’t want to wait years to decide which one I’d like. By the time the other specs come out I may decide to go for something else completely.
@7ludi Жыл бұрын
The only significant differences between the base and the Competition are the gearbox and the power. The M2 comes with one power level and and two gearbox options, no need for a Competition
@Jb001jb Жыл бұрын
It could come as a COMP with a slight powerbump and more stuff standard. Saw in another review that there’s no grills in front of the radiators, quite visible and they get peppered with stones, causing damage. Hope for a (tird partie) solution. How could BMW miss this…
@azijadn Жыл бұрын
Great technology headious design.
@ConfirmedPatriot Жыл бұрын
At times I can see the S2000 in the front end and profile. Is this a good thing ? Previous Gen more sexy….imo
@aronmihaly5249 Ай бұрын
Why does no one mention the mis-shaped headlight housings. The hood line doesn't line up with the front facia around the headlights which looks like a design error.
@Surfer_Jay Жыл бұрын
For not a great deal more $$ you get the new M3... Nuff said!!
@michael7302 Жыл бұрын
Best of the UK reviews today 👍 ...but maybe you all UK reporters could review one feature each and save us some time? 😂 Next time: You do the handling. Carwow breakes. Achilles acceleration. 😂
@thembangubane2395 11 ай бұрын
Rear reminds me of the 325IS EVO II
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