This IS Ren's Story. The Doctors literally told him that all the pain he was feeling was in his head. Instead of treating him for Lyme Disease (Sick Boi, Sick Boi, Bitten by a Tick Boi), they gave him psycho-active/tropic drugs. The fact that the medical community basically Denied what he was going through caused even more problems for him (Psychosis) as he thought he really was "crazy". He's stated publicly that he has developed PTSD surrounding "Medical Professionals".....now you understand why he sees them as PIGS (the pig mask).

For me the loud beat in the background in the beginning when she's speaking is pretty much how he feels when he's these professionals he can't hear what he suppose to hear he's focusing on breathing and then just answers whatever they want to hear because he knows there not helping him but actually killing him slowly. He's a genius 🔥

No boi is more like uk boi emphasis on the accent ❤️❤️ Much love and mad respect ❤️❤️ #REN #CEDRIC&BRIAN

my sister got limes disease when she was young.. it was the start of her downfall as she slowly fell apart, losing weight. She consumed more pills than food daily and no one could figure out what she had. Just in that past couple years did we finally figure out that she had limes disease.. so yeah this definitely resonates with me, albeit I didn't get effected directly, I witnessed it.

The children's choir comes from the Koutev Bulgarian National Ensemble. It's just been sampled by Ren.

It took almost 30 years for them to figure out that I have Lupus. Years of them telling you “it’s all in your head”, will make you crazy. People with symptoms that are subjective should always have a rheumatologist consult. Most GP’s and ER docs have no clue about autoimmune diseases.

Boi is one way the Welsh spell boy.

It’s national folk, it’s Bulgarian voices, super famous way of singing. A lot of different groups. The last of stromae (l’enfer) is beginning with Bulgarian voices too, it’s an old art of singing in the same note, and the ritz is 7\8 which is also very special. It takes 6-8 hours of practicing, daily. In this track he elevated the tone, probably because of excelerating the tempo…anyway, I am so happy as Bulgarian that such creative people like REN and STROMAE are sampling them and both interestingly doing it for mental problem themes….so good…love it.❤❤❤❤

I think it’s meant to be hard to hear, like it was hard for him to hear and comprehend when the doctors were talking to him, especially with the chaos that was going on inside him at the time. Artistic choice I think.

Also ref Boi, I might be wrong in modern context but when I was at school, it was an urban slang term, an alternate spelling of the word Boy like as in the hip-hop scene, take Flav-o-flav’s Yeah Boi catchphrase for example, there was nothing more to it than that, in my day anyway ie the 90’s

The tale of Jenny, screech and violet were all shot as a continuous shot. Everything Ren does is award worthy.

Anyone that has had to live through the pain of getting to the end of an actual Lymes diagnosis mentally intact - feels this song to their soul.

I heard Ren talk about the pig theme on Twitch. If I remember correctly, he said it had to do with a quote from George Orwell’s Animal Farm.

Samuel Perry-falvey is not Sam Tompkins. 1 is a videographer, 1 is a vocalist. Both are incredible. ❤🌹

I hope you read this, cause it may be long, but I think it's good stuff. I have to say: you don't necessarily feel more depressed when you are on anti-depressants. When you find the right one, they do what they are supposed to do. Here, the drugs they had put him on were things that he did not need, with some bad side effects and consequences. (My Ren Knowldge comes from comments on other videos, so I might have a detail or 2 wrong) I think the pig in a butcher costume is meant to represent many things. It is a double, triple (maybe more?) entendre for the point that our capitalist society has reached. Rich pigs are butchering us and our sanity to sell every little bit they bleed from us. We as humans are destroying (butchering) our planet without a single thought of trying to slow down. Specific doctors in his history that constantly misdiagnosed him and royally screwed him up all because they were only thinking about pushing pills, and not listening to him or believing him, because the butcher doesn't listen to the cries of the animal as they kill it and let it bleed. (not a vegan/vegetarian rant, just sticking with the theme). It's sad to see hope pulled from someone so viciously, and it happens way too much today. also, you guys are wrong about boi, for sure, it is just a different spelling for people that want to be clever, funny, ironic, etc. I think he is using it for a reason, just not the reason you speculated on. I also think you should double-check those numbers on lgbtq+ kids, and also check how many stay lgbtq+ once they grow to adulthood. A fair bit of those are just trying to discover who they are as they grow up, and part of that is questioning their gender or attraction, it is just more out in the open now than it used to be because society has allowed these people to be more open with who they are (which is a great thing because it gives them a chance to discover who they are without the fear of being completely ostracized [though many still are]). Many people that say they are bi in this stage of life end up leaving this phase completely straight again, while many stay bi and some leave this stage having discovered that they are gay. When it comes to Trans kids, the numbers people spout online are usually incorrect (I don't know the exact numbers, which is why I'm not saying numbers here). The reality is that there are a lot fewer trans kids than many people claim, and even fewer that are allowed to be put on hormone blockers before puberty truly sets in and makes their life harder. It takes a lot of therapy to be allowed to be put on hormone blockers, and it is the same thing for being put on transition drugs and transitioning. It is a lot harder to undo a transition, so there are a lot of steps involved to make sure that this is the person really becoming who they are and who they want to be before anything happens medically. Sorry, this turned out longer than I planned, but I believe that as an influencer it is important for you to be knowledgeable of the facts when you talk on important topics like this. And I think you telling your viewers to correct you in the comments about things like the boi thing is important as it opens the door for both you and your viewers to learn and expand your knowledge on many subjects, so I commend you on that and wish more people would say things like that. Have a great day!

I love how he made the music just almost too loud to really hear her, to portray what it's like for him to listen to her over his loud mind. Also, yes the mind can make you sick, but in this case that was the MISdiagnosis, when in actuality he has Lyme disease, and her diagnosis was dead wrong. The pig butcher is how Dark Ren (in regards to the dichotomy portrayed in "Hi Ren") sees the doctor/therapist. He was signed by Sony some time in the past, and they dropped him because he was going through all this rather than recording. So his ire for the music industry was tied to the same ire for the medical industry...they both just wanted him to take pills and act okay.

Yes, there is a sector of the lgbt community that uses "boi" as a descriptor ... but that spelling has been floating around urban/ hip-hop communities since the 90s. Most commonly is the word is used to describe dudes we used just refer to as dogs back in the day 🤣 so no, i think in this instance he's just spelling it differently for funzies lol

The fact that so many people can relate to his music/lyrics/performance on many levels, the fact that he touches many of us in many ways is a much needed gift and clarity of authentic talent, criteria

I am so glad you guys are doing more Ren, he truly is an amazing artist that deserves the world. There are so so many more: How to be me with Chinchilla, Ocean, Humble, Children of the moon, I love this music part 1.2.3, Money game part 1&2, Heretic, Genesis....take your pick my friends HE DOES NOT DISAPPOINT ♥️🥰

I think the pig is a reference to Animal Farm by George Orwell. I read somewhere that it's one of his favorite books.

These Ren reactions are what got me to your channel. Just subbed and look forward to going back and watching some of your other stuff. You guys are awesome.

Ren has used the lyric "we're all pigs to the slaughter" but apparently he was out with his friends and saw the pig mask, liked it and has put it in the songs from this album...

I've only heard a handful of Ren songs lately. So far, my favorite is his song called "Power". It's just a big FU to the haters, but with his usual positive messages. I absolutely love it.

He was actually signed with Sony before he was misdiagnosed. He got released when he got sick. He had Lyme disease but they kept telling him it was in his head and giving him other drugs. It wasn’t until he went to Belgium that they figured it out. But by then he had already brain damage and deterioration. After spending 10 yrs sick with it he is still having operations and tons of meds to try to get right and rebuild brain tissue.

Appreciate your reaction. Thanks. Have a Great Day!

Money Game 1& 2 are really good! Genesis is phenomenal also. Thank you for the reactions.

Hello guys. I highly recommend that ,(if you want to know more about Ren, and what he goes through) you watch an interview he did recently with another youtuber and former pop/slash rock singer Justin Hawkins (Justin Hawkins rides again) or his shorts on his own Chanel. I love him so much, and although he TELLS us in his videos, you have to see his vlogs to really understand just how sick this poor boy is. Its incredible to me that he manages to produce ANYTHING, let alone the beautiful, creative and QUALITY material that he does. He is the definition of tortured genius. Love love love him. Im a 54 yr old grandmother, so my feelings are very maternal for him, wish i could give him a hug. Anyway, love you guys too! Keep up the good work 😊 xx

Another great reaction. His release, "Sick Boi," is almost another chapter to "Hi Ren." Ren had to quit smoking because of his health on the advice of his Canadian doctor. Good thing, in GB a pack of smokes costs around 10 GBP (about $12), judging by his opening line on "Bittersweet Symphony."

Check out some of his older songs like Dominoes and Depression. His song Depression will hit you in your feels.

I think he has said that the pig is a reference to Animal Farm and represents power/authority.

@cedric&Brian you should check out the hunger Ren really flexes his rapping skills

I’m not sure if you have the phrase Capitalist Pig in America because a few of you all seem to be missing the reference. Basically the pig is referring to the music industry bosses and the pharmaceutical industry bosses. Meaning fat cats/ capitalist pigs.

Found you through Ren and i have to say you guys are awesome reactors (is that the right word for people who react?). I don't get why some complain about you pausing often cause that's why you watch reactions. To see and hear their reactions! Keep doing what you do and keep pausing! Love the channel!

I think you’re talking about the difference between “Reactive Depression” & “Major Depressive Disorder” (aka Clinical Depression). The latter is due to a chemical imbalance & is when medication is most useful. Regarding mental illness associated with Lyme Disease, both types could occur- either due to the symptoms Lyme Disease causes (Reactive) and/or the damage it causes to the brain (MDD). Whilst rare, psychosis can also occur.

I don't see many Ren fans suggesting to reactors to watch a slightly older video of his when he was in the band The Big Push.. If you look that up the video is of them doing a public show of I Shot the Sheriff/Road to Zion and another and oh my Lord!!! 😳😳🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 He's channeling Bob Marley in it. I am CONTINUOUSLY AMAZED WITH REN!!! You cannot label this young man... He is simply an artist!!! GREAT reaction guys, love your videos!!!!

Was diagnosed with auto immune disease years ago and at any given time was on 13-16 different medications a day.

Ren - The Hunger (showcases his rap skills) Ren - Depression (so relatable for us sufferers) Enough said. 🙂 Thanks for your reactions.

At 14 I began symptoms similar to my severely bipolar grandmother; I was treated as a guinea pig for years, switched from med to med, hospitalized. Meanwhile, I confined wild wild manic episodes - like straight up running away for days when I was only 15. Deep, deep depression - not eating, or leaving the house, not answering the phone, not showing up to my job, showering. I went through that for 17 years, sometimes just saying fuck treatment, embracing mania, self-medicating… I finally found an amazing psychiatrist, but it wasn’t until I was 31 years old and had a massive postnatal break down. 17 years I waited for someone to diagnose me and carefully consider the right medications for me. I’ve been treating with her for almost 9 years on the same medication regimen. It’s by far the longest I’ve ever stuck with treatment. Mental health is a is a battlefield. It marred 17 years of my life. I was 33 before someone truly listen to me and put me on the right treatment. We’ve definitely come far since my 1997 induction into the system. But it’s still very much a hit or miss, what the fuck system. Sorry, rant over.

First: Unity is a beautiful thing! And, I may need a coffee cup. I'm so glad that I found another good reaction team. Ren videos are amazing, he is not only giving music, he is sharing his soul.

I really appreciate your little talk about mental health medication and treatment, there is no one size fits all treatment for what people are dealing with. We live in a sick society with sick people and no one seems to know how to help or fix it. Medications have their place but some people just need someone to listen to their situation and give a shit instead of pushing them through the system. Ren sees that the sickness can be within us but when you reach out for help and don't have the knowledge or tools yet to stand on your own society and culture can make things so much worse. If anyone is struggling with mental illness and ever needs someone to talk to leave a comment here and I will do my best to reach out

Hey guys - a reaction to Money Game Part 1 & 2 would be awesome - most reaction videos do them separately, but I think it would be better to react to both in one video, kinda like The Tale of Jenny and Screech

Lyme disease can cause psychosis and a lot of other things the doctors didnt even test him for Lyme disease all t h at time he had to suffer while they tossed pills down his throat and told him it was all in his head, my heart goes out to Ren

Not just his mind making him sick though, like therapist says near start "your mind is making you sick" they didnt believe his physical symptoms were from something physical but just in his head or mental health illness. So he went years and years of doctors not believing him. (As do others go through this!) They discovered after so many years of him suffering physically in pain that he has lyme disease- when this isnt treated quickly it damages your immune system etc... so a lot of damage done... his mental health suffered due to being so physically ill he couldnt move without intense pain etc, and the lyme disease actually causes psychosis in people, which ren had... xxx

“Dominos” by Ren is a must! Much love ❤

Ren's tracks really needs to be listened to through headphones. I couldnt believe the difference 😅

The pig I see it as "professor pyg" an enemy of batman. He is a butcher who kill people. And I love the fact in this video that the doctor who's supose to heal the patient, become the butcher. Send a message that the doctor instead of helping him is just killing him.

Ren spoke about the pig and it's his nod to the book 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell. He said that he will have many more references in his other music that he is releasing this year. Here is a link to his KZfaq short where he talks about the 'obscene' amount of medication / vitamins he's currently taking. kzfaq.infoW6jKUMTlfW4

Medical PTSD is fairly common, especially when you've been ignored about a problem or denied treatment, or the misdiagnosis of something. I suddenly started having blackouts, and tremors that lasted minutes back in 2011, but doctors kept insisting it was just for attention. It wasn't until 2014 that I finally got an EEG, and was diagnosed with three types of epilepsy and after six months on treatment, I went from 100+ a day to around a dozen a week. I've had new doctors still treat my seizures like it's attention seeking when they're literally seeing the proof in my brain waves. Medical field can be incredibly traumatizing, and not nearly enough people realize that. The people who are supposed to help you can ignore you, turn shit around and make you out to be the bad guy, or even harm you, instead. Rare/uncommon diseases, chronically ill, and women are often victims to those "professionals".

Loving the Ren reactions, you should check out Money Game

I bet you know Animal Farm. Remember the pig from the story? I read that it's his way to present greed

The pig image is a reference to us all being just "pigs to the slaughter"!!

Please watch Ren's "Crutch"... a much younger Ren in a beautifully cinematic, emotionally stunning video.

Ren tells us himself on his KZfaq channel….go check out his recent short….you’ll see.✌️😊💙

I love all rens music and all of the reaction videos and ibe watched literally hundreds over the past few months after i heard hi ren for the first time. But Cedric and Brian you guys have my favorite reactions to Rens music. Maybe iys because im a 50 year old man and can relate so much to Rens music. And seeing you two old fellas lime myself also relate and even emotional. Im right there with ya my friends

I found you guys through your Ren reactions. Thankyou

Love your Ren reactions. I had to sub

Re: drugs for mental illness. Every time I've felt better on meds I've gone off. To pretty bad results. That just didn't work for me. Yes, it took many years of trial and error with lots of doctors, but I finally found the right medication. And even though I'm a LOT older than when I first experienced depression (I'm in my 60s now so it's been 40 years), and maybe enough has changed so that I don't need the meds, I'm not going off again. I have bloodwork every 6 months to make sure my carious medications aren't making me even sicker, and so far so good, but just like I stay on my blood pressure medication, I'll keep taking my antidepressants. Thanks for another great reaction.

Sam that he sings with is Sam Tompkins, Sam the videographer is Sam Perry-Falvey. You will see the pig in most of RENs videos 🖤

He posted his regimen the other day...handfuls of pills twice a day. The difference is, he needs them to help his disease vs just being told he's crazy. That's my takeaway from this song anyway.

It's too different Sam's. There's the one who films and then one he sings with is Sam Tompkins. He also just did a short video. He has to take like 20+ pills a couple times a day. He was saying he has some brain damage from this process he's been thru

Thank you guys hope you have a great day

“I’m the virus?!? (No!) You’re the virus!” I think, is the correct punctuation for that line. He’s critiquing several of the world’s systems that have failed him; he talks about how he was sick due to being misdiagnosed by the medical and psychological health industries for 8 years of his life. He’s ranting and venting like someone who has been wrongly imprisoned and who has lost almost a decade of his best years of his life.

40% of kids? That isn’t true. But anyway, the “mind making you sick” reference in this case means when doctors tell you your issues are psychosomatic, which is a horrible thing to do, especially if they haven’t tested the person for autoimmune or other disorders. It took two years for my diagnosis, mine is an incurable, chronic condition. Ask anyone with an autoimmune condition and they will probably tell you some doctor told them it was in their head, and that alone can make you crazy because what you are going through is real and they tell you it isn’t, until you find the doctors who figure it out and get you on a better treatment plan. It can suck years of your life away that you can’t get back.

I have Lyme and was misdiagnosed for 5 years over which I was on 120 meds and countless supplements. The Lyme and bartonella have messed up my brain by passing my blood brain barrier. No insurance and I don’t qualify for help so I’m just suffering. Ren’s brain when he’s meeting with the psych is just like mine

My guys NF dropped a song today HOPE ✋️ i Rolf you he will soon . AMAAAAAZING ,AND SPEECHLESS

The pig is the medical profession/pharma that failed Ren and treated him like a commodity…it’s a twist on the abbatoir…Ren is being processed and treated like something to be exploited…he’s in the abbatoir…the pig is in control…it’s inhuman…maybe…just a thought

Ren said this is a prequel for Hi Ren. great reactions my guys.

I am currently suffering from side effects of a new blood pressure medication by my cardiologist, my legs, ankles and feet swelling up really bad. Can barely walk, the pain is intense in the feet. I did contact my doctor and it is one of the side effects. I am stopping the medication, I am on two other meds for BP so I am still getting the meds needed. I am in early stages of heart failure and have a narrow blockage of one heart artery. So . . . I am not happy with the side effects, it's awful. I still have some swelling of the feet but slowly very slowly not as bad and soon should get better since stopping the medication. Be careful out there people and get info on all medication and KNOW what the side effects could be on what you are prescribed.

I think in ren's case..he was misdiagnosed to hv mental issues..saying his health issues were caused by his mind or upbringing or some pycho bullshit.. when in fact he actually had a physical disease caused by a tick bite that caused all his health issues including attacking him physically n psychologically... When Drs couldn't figure out what's causing all those physical health symptoms...sometimes they r too quick to push it or attribute them to a psychological diagnosis n peddle more pills to patients..not concerned about what the side effects r to the patient. Just my take on what Ren was trying to say in the song...expressing his anger n frustration of what he went through.

Unfortunately many people with chronic illness go misdiagnosis for years, written off as drug seeking or diagnosis seaking. Told they need tgerapy...then years of no relief they finally get an actual diagnosis and it wasn't in their head...of course you get depressed when you are suck and in pain for years....I was told my issues were anxiety for years...guess what, I had a neurological disorder called POTS. POTS was causing anxiety...so many doctor don't listen.

I think I read somewhere that the pig he uses represents greed. I might of just made that up tho

Ren has so much variety! In case you don't know, he also does his own beats. The voices are a sped up recording of a Bulgarian folk song. Insofar as his sickness, he had the psychosis because they medicated him for mental illnesses he did not have. They misdiagnosed him with mental illness when he had Lyme disease causing him to be bed ridden up to 23 hours a day. Also causing him to lose his record contract with Sony which accounts for that "switch up" in this song. All of which damaged both his body and psyche. Edit: let's also be clear, your opinions on social contagions regarding LGBTQ are precisely that: opinions. Unlike what you said, you don't actually "know" there's a social contagion.

Ya'll need to stop speaking on issues that you do NOT understand. The only "social contagion" part of the trans community is that social media means the world is more interconnected and people have access to other people who are experiencing the same issues. So people are aware that they are not alone in how they feel, that there's a name for it...there's no contagion aspect, just access to information. You managed to turn a reaction to Ren's song into some serious "old man yelling at clouds" vibes.

No boi is old school hip hop uk

Such a power pharma message!

The pig has been his enemy but it’s almost become a comfort blanket for him now. Something I literally see every time I’m in a photo or looking in a mirror unfortunately

My 8 yr old niece got lime disease and it was awful. She got so sick and it took a while to find what was wrong. They had to treat her with cancer medicine and she had rheumatoid arthritis in her hands so bad. A friend of mine is now allergic to meat from ticks. She ran into a nest and was covered in tick bites. Brother of a friend got really sick this yr from a tick bite and his organs started shutting down. Thankfully he made it. But yeah. Here in Missouri you don’t go in the woods until after the first frost.

I'm glad we can't get those medications freely here in Europe and no mds advertisements either, but it's still bad how much meds are being prescribed, you're so right!

Boi literally means boy, it is just urban slang.

It's possible the pig is meant to represent Greed - one particularly British phrase is "snouts in the trough". In this case the medical and music companies.

film called split

I'm thinking that pig guy is supposed to be a bit of irony. It looks like Pig man is a butcher where pigs are typically the one being butchered

My understanding is the pig mask represents greed, especially the greed of big establishments and government.

He has a short on his channel of what a day of treatment looks like.

I have enjoyed your reactions a great deal, but your comments about transgender children are terribly off the mark. (.1% actually have dysphoria vs. 40% who identify?) Seriously damages your credibility on where you get your information. It's about 5%. Look at graphs about left-handedness through the years and note that it plateaued soon after left-handedness was finally accepted as part of human diversity. I hope you can avoid the trend of slagging minorities in your future videos because you guys have good chemistry between you and enjoyable insights about your experiences of the music.

Pig? What Pig? The Pig Ren refuses to explain? ....... No one knows, he has openly refused to more then say the Pig is very personal to him. Thank you for another really well done reaction.

Listening you you talk. It's time for the Money Game Trilogy!

wow. this song hits damn hard!

Please check out Ren x Chinchilla - How to be me. (Live) He wrote about his friend that committed suicide.

I THINK the loud music in the beginning is the noise in his head that makes it hard to hear her! 🤷‍♀️. It gets LOUD in tha head sometimes. 🙄

Samuel Perry-Falvey is the videographer. Sam thompkins is the singer ❤ I'm sorry if I am repeating information you already got from someone else

The pig is the all the greedy industries, this one is the medical / pharmaceutical / record industries

If you guys haven't had a chance yet, what went wrong ft sam Tompkins is an interesting little tale, pt 2 doesn't have a video but honestly doesn't need one

7:22 the pig symbolizes greed of mankind it is referenced from the book animal farm

The money? Watch Ren's Money Game part I and II. He explanes it right there....

RIGHT LADS .get to his street performance with Sam Tompkins, and a band called the big push ,also his duet with Chinchilla she is as good.

The pig is a reference from animal farm, the pig represents capitalism

Good morning boys!

The pig comes from George Orwell’s Animal Farm, his song Animal Flow brings the connection in full light.

The pig mask could also be a reference to a relatively new Batman villain named Professor Pyg, who looks exactly like the character in this video. His crimes included experimentation on his patients....which mirrors closely how Ren was treated as a result of his misdiagnosis.....but, I could also be WAY off.....Just a theory, but thought it worth mentioning.