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The Ultimate Classical Music Guide by Dave Hurwitz

The Ultimate Classical Music Guide by Dave Hurwitz

4 жыл бұрын

There have only been three major recordings to date of all of the Honegger symphonies, and only one really takes the price: Serge Baudo with the Czech Philharmonic on Supraphon. In this video, I explain exactly why.

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@Wolfcrag85
@Wolfcrag85 4 жыл бұрын
Serge Baudo is a wonderful conductor. He deserved much more credit for his work, both in opera and symphonic music.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Dutoit cycle. It's clean-sounding and very French, and has feeling without overdoing it.
@VoceCorale
@VoceCorale 3 жыл бұрын
Honegger is a favourite composer of mine. I have a feeling, he is somewhat underrated. He has some great things, in the realm of chamber music, too. The Baudo cycle is excellent, I bought it years ago after Mr. Hurwitz's recommendation.
@Warp75
@Warp75 Жыл бұрын
I just found out about these symphonies & I like them a lot. Very rhythmic
@johnmarchington3146
@johnmarchington3146 Жыл бұрын
I've owned the Serge Baudo set for decades and love it. I also have the HvK or 2 and 3 and excellent they are too. I can never get enough of the first movement of the fifth. Those extraordinary almost modal harmonies at the start and then that rising trumpet that eventually bursts out - brilliantly done by Baudo.
@kend.6797
@kend.6797 4 жыл бұрын
I've had this set for about 15 years. Great, great set. Wonderful composer.
@alanmcginn4796
@alanmcginn4796 4 жыл бұрын
Dave. Just amazing stuff. I truly look forward to your videos each and every day after work. I just purchased the Baudo set and looking forward to discovering some New music. I promise I will keep on listening as long as you keep on reviewing!!
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@Mackeson3
@Mackeson3 3 жыл бұрын
Shostakovich admired Honegger and did a marvelous transcription of the 3rd for 2 pianos.
@nealkurz6503
@nealkurz6503 4 жыл бұрын
Munch actually made 3 studio recordings. There’s a wartime 78rpm version, made shortly after the premiere (In the Warner box), certainly not at the level of his subsequent versions. Totally agree about Baudo. I was lucky enough to attend a concert he led with the Orchestre National de Lyon, in Ann Arbor, around 1987 or so. Dutilleux’ s 1st Symphony was fantastic, and the clarity of every strand of every texture was remarkable. My introduction to the 5th was a Haitink Concertgebouw broadcast (from 1967, but re-broadcast in the 70s on “Dutch Concert Hall”). It is included in the 14 CD Q disc set of live recordings from Dutch radio. Damned fine reading, IMHO, and wow did the orchestra play the daylights out of it! Haven’t heard Mravinsky’s 3rd in ages, wonder how that’s held up?
@oskarapeta2895
@oskarapeta2895 Жыл бұрын
Dear David, thanks for a wonderful talk about these gems! I found that there is another Honegger cycle - Fabio Luisi's with Orchestre de la Suisse Romande. What are your thoughts about this cycle?
@frgraybean
@frgraybean 4 жыл бұрын
Great cycle. Karajan 3 is a wonder! Markevich 5 is also very good.
@LocoFocoLit
@LocoFocoLit Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I don't own a cycle. I have Dutoit in the first symphony. Many second symphonies: I think I like Mariss Jansons' the best. I have multiple performances of the Di Tre Re symphony. I've never even heard Baudo! Well, this gives me something to look forward to. Thanks.
@cspiegs1
@cspiegs1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. Another great video. Now I'm looking to get this set but not much available today with Baudo. Just missed getting a set on Discogs for around $15. The only set now available on Discogs is $95 (not paying that) and a set on Amazon for around $40. Which version would you say sounds the best? It was suggested from one Amazon user that the reissued cd has questionable sonics and that the best sounding are the European LP pressings. Also I couldn't find the exact copy you had - all the ones I saw had a blue border surrounding the artwork. Thanks
@MaggiMagg1
@MaggiMagg1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. I'll pick up the Baudo set. But what individual recording of symphony No. 3 would you recommend?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 4 жыл бұрын
Karajan, most likely, or possibly Jansons (he did it twice).
@jlaurson
@jlaurson 4 жыл бұрын
Love Honegger. And the symphonies not the least. Baudo's cycle and, for contrast, Luisi's.
@grososiupaul8479
@grososiupaul8479 3 ай бұрын
What recommendations do you have for Symphony no 5? I have Jarvi and Sanderling, but I would like to hear some other views of the piece.
@simonalbrecht9435
@simonalbrecht9435 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the talk! Curiously I have never even heard the name Serge Baudo. I wonder why nobody released a cycle of Charles Munch’s recordings, given his close affinity to Honegger-I know he didn't officially do the 3rd, but live recordings exist. Probably would be too complicated legally, right?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Probably, and variable too.
@UlfilasNZ
@UlfilasNZ 4 жыл бұрын
Since it's quite hard to find the Baudo cycle on streaming services, I put together my own cycle: 1: Dutoit (Erato) 2: Jansons (EMI) 3: Jansons (EMI) 4: Lopez-Cobos (Virgin) 5: Dutoit (Erato) Pretty good I think?
@alanmcginn4796
@alanmcginn4796 3 жыл бұрын
David Kelly. The Baudo cycle is available on amazon music. 5.99 for the whole set!! I got it back when Dave did the video and I just checked now and it is still available for 5.99
@UlfilasNZ
@UlfilasNZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@alanmcginn4796 Thanks for the tip! I had a listen, I don't quite understand what the fuss is about. Also the sound quality isn't ideal
@UlfilasNZ
@UlfilasNZ 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Jesús López-Cobos' recordings of 2 and 4 with the Lausanne Chamber Orchestra?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 4 жыл бұрын
4 is good, 2 is a bit tame.
@UlfilasNZ
@UlfilasNZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide I agree. The 4th is the one I really was wondering about. That was a real discovery for me. Now I am listening to Nikotina, which I am in love with!
@c.iuliusbalbus4399
@c.iuliusbalbus4399 4 жыл бұрын
What about the so-called 'Symphonie mimée', "Horace victorieux", inspired by a bloody episode from our legendary ancient times? I have only heard the Plasson recording, and don't know if there is another one. I guess that Baudo recorded some shorter orchestral works too, but not this one.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 4 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@c.iuliusbalbus4399
@c.iuliusbalbus4399 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide What do you think about the recordings of this dark and vibrant work, if there is any other, and about the work itself, which seems forgotten.
@VoceCorale
@VoceCorale 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.iuliusbalbus4399 I have the Plasson album on DG. For what it's worth, I like it.
@williamwhittle216
@williamwhittle216 4 жыл бұрын
have Baudo doing 3 & 5 only.
@olegroslak852
@olegroslak852 4 жыл бұрын
Amazon says "currently unavailable" :(
@kend.6797
@kend.6797 4 жыл бұрын
Did you check anywhere else? I saw a couple of new copies on ebay.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 4 жыл бұрын
And Amazon UK--
@kend.6797
@kend.6797 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Qualiton Imports. Around 2004-2005 I was going through a Czech phase. I bought up tons of Supraphon cds of Czech composers or music performed by Czech performers (especially the Czech PO) directly from their website. The stuff is addicting. And with orchestral playing that good a person simply has to have as much of it as possible.
@kevinw.1934
@kevinw.1934 4 жыл бұрын
prestomusic.com apparently has it, "usually despatched in 3-4 working days".
@mrktdd
@mrktdd 4 жыл бұрын
If you are happy with downloads, like most Supraphon from the past it is available on Supraphonline: www.supraphonline.cz/album/1335-honegger-symfonie-c-1-5-pacific-231-symfonicka-veta-c-3
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