Repertoire: The BEST Shostakovich Symphony No. 7 "Leningrad"

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The Ultimate Classical Music Guide by Dave Hurwitz

The Ultimate Classical Music Guide by Dave Hurwitz

2 жыл бұрын

This epic symphony has had more silliness written about it than almost any other work of its kind. The usual business about the Nazi siege of Leningrad just won't cut it, so in this chat I offer my own take on just what Shostakovich may have intended. Along the way, we'll discuss some of the best recordings as well.
Musical Examples courtesy of Naxos Records

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@mattanderson6336
@mattanderson6336 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best lines I ever heard on television. On the old ‘Law & Order’ program Detective Brisco walks into a music shop while investigating a murder and tells the shop owner (with elevated voice) ‘That music’s pretty loud!’ To which the shop owner reply’s ‘Its Shostakovich! It’s supposed to be loud!’
@ewmbr1164
@ewmbr1164 2 жыл бұрын
"It's got to blow you against the back wall..." - I remember this vividly, when I attended a performance of the 'Leningrad' by the Berlin Philharmonic, led by the young Mariss Jansons in June 1992: I sat behind the orchestra (the French horn section, close enough to percussionists). There were only three rows and several feet behind me and the back wall. I was 'im-pressed', literally, and succeeded in getting a ticket for the next night, with the same program. The concert is now available to be re-visited at the Berlin Phil's Digital Concert Hall - but, wonderful to whatch and hear though it is: it never ever can repeat my being blown against the back wall live experience of June 1992.
@philosophicallyspeaking6463
@philosophicallyspeaking6463 19 күн бұрын
In philosophy, the 'artist's fallacy' is the idea that once a work of art is released into the world, the artist formally relinquishes any and all right or authority to further 'tell' you what 'their' art means or is meant to represent. That being the case, 'any' listener's experience of the work is just as legitimate a litmus of its 'intent' as anyone else's, including the composer. Were this 'not' the case, it must be concluded that the composer failed what was intended. The degree to which a consensus of appreciation is caused determines a works success at conveying intent. And remember, art 'must' be intentional. Were it accidental, there is no 'conscious' artist to define or take credit for it. Good job David! Great music doesn't need fan boys, it needs scrutiny. Genius is something that springs or sprouts (on sufficient or insufficient occasion) from banality and academic convention. It is not 'always' worth the wait.
@MrNathan2011
@MrNathan2011 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Shostakovich Symphonies. I had the pleasure of playing it - I needed ear plugs for the whole performance. Glad you think the Bernstein is the best recording - I agree! I read that the reason why Bernstein didn't cut the 1st movement was because he asked the orchestra whether they should play the whole thing or do the cuts - the orchestra replied "All of It!" Can't wait for your take on the 10th and 11th symphonies.
@evgenyselensky4036
@evgenyselensky4036 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful analysis. Shostakovich 7 is one of my favourites of all symphonic music. It was so pleasing to find out that Bernstein's/Chicago is people's faviorite as well. A real treasure.
@timbakerbartholomew
@timbakerbartholomew 3 ай бұрын
I will admit that I usually despise the KZfaq algorithm, but today, on a bleak and gloomy Sunday morning in Brexitland, it has offered me you! Apart from No.5, the larger-scale Shostakovich symphonies have frankly daunted me until now, but no longer shall they be avoided! I am fired up by your excellent and energised dissections, and looking forward to immersing myself. Thank you.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! Enjoy the music, above all.
@davidhickey1182
@davidhickey1182 2 жыл бұрын
I really love your in depth analysis broadcasts as you are doing with the Haydn symphonies. This one was so illuminating it made me want to cry!
@craigmandelbaum8820
@craigmandelbaum8820 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the analysis! Didn't realize how much of the development was contained in the opening.
@user-wp4ju4hp5w
@user-wp4ju4hp5w 3 ай бұрын
The recording with Leonard Bernstein conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra is considered an epic recording
@providence51
@providence51 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciated the in-depth analysis!
@artistinbeziers7916
@artistinbeziers7916 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Another really absorbing talk. What I love about your talks, David, is the way you explain the musicology of the music question - cas in point, the use of 'that' rhythm. You do it with charm, clarity and without any of the 'bourgeoise' of so many so-called critics. I've noticed over the time that you've been doing your talks on works/recordings that I already have, that you've introduced me to many 'new' versions (recordings) - and I don't just mean YOUR fav. versions, but others that you mention along the way; I've thought as I listened "Mmm, that sounds like a version to add. Must put it on my hit list" Some works definitely deserve multiple versions in one's collection, as there is a rich wealth of excellent and varied interpretations 'out there'. I've often thought that there is a sort of link between Shostakovich and Vaughan Williams; not musically, except that they both bore their souls to the max, in their symphonies, but in that critics, listeners, etc have tried to put verbal descriptors to their work; a dubious and perhaps arrogant practice? I know RVW was constantly annoyed with this kind of thing. I'll shut up!
@kevindanielson1908
@kevindanielson1908 10 ай бұрын
Another fantastic analysis! One of my favorite symphonies by one of my favorite composers! Dave I can’t tell you how much I appreciate and love your musical “blogs”. Please keep it up. If you ever started to teach musical analysis in an academic setting, I’d love to sign up for your lectures!
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 10 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@ScottAReid
@ScottAReid 2 жыл бұрын
this was an awesome video. thanks so much. i love Shostakovich 7th. you have to play it LOUD and with a subwoofer booming. love your videos. do more on Shostakovich please.
@BryanHalo123
@BryanHalo123 2 жыл бұрын
This maybe the best video of an excellent channel. Tremendously informative. I've been listening to Ancerl's 7th this past week. Ancerl's jolly rendition of this symphony seemed out of place considering the WWII hellscape I thought this was showing. I enjoy your ideas, it helps to inform my too linear and less informed ideas on this symphony. TY
@colinwrubleski7627
@colinwrubleski7627 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, i am just slightly surprised "Maestro Fresh-Dave" did not include the Ancerl / Czech PO / Supraphon "Gold Edition" as a sixth recording for consideration.
@deadfdr
@deadfdr 7 ай бұрын
Thank you to Dave, the conductor, the musicians and the engineers to draw us to this exultant expression.
@djquinn4212
@djquinn4212 2 жыл бұрын
I adore the Temirkanov recording. Great sound, and he knows exactly what he wants to say with the piece and they just do it right. I wish I had heard it when he did it in Baltimore. That being said, who doesn't love the chicago bernstein recording? amazing.
@stevenmsinger
@stevenmsinger 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, David! I really enjoyed your in-depth analysis of the first movement. It builds on so much that I've thought about the work. I usually find that after the first movement I'm so exhausted I can't get much out of the rest of the piece. Everything seems kind of anti-climatic and redundant after that.
@johndillworth582
@johndillworth582 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking this down for us (me). Sometimes one doesn't know where to start with a piece an hour long piece can be pretty daunting. You make it simple. Now I can't stop hearing "Da-Da...da DOT DOT" Once you point out the trick it helps unravel the whole thing. Definitely a workout for the headphones this one. Really looking forward to the Shostakovitch 11th. I do love my percussion symphonies
@theodentherenewed4785
@theodentherenewed4785 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant analysis. I listened to this symphony a few times, but from your video, I found out really what I was listening to. People say that the 1st movement is like Bolero, I think that it's much better than that. Ravel's work conveys a sense of having fun with orchestral colour, but Shostakovich 7th brings directness of expression and seriousness to the repeating theme. The 4th movement coda is one of those memorable moments in all music, it's bombastic, but ominous instead of happy. From Shostakovich's oeuvre, the Leningrad struck me as being particularly clear and transparent in its emotional expression. And your recommendation of Bernstein/Chicago/DG is an amazing pick. It's 15 minutes longer than your 2nd pick, but Bernstein knew like very few people did, how to get more character in the music by going slower.
@lincolnmv4043
@lincolnmv4043 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh so glad that I found this. Leonard Bernstein is my favorite recording. Such a great story about the CSO to a great story about a symphony. The ending always brings the house down.
@halblegen6588
@halblegen6588 4 ай бұрын
I agree I’ve listened to a few recordings in the CSO I think is the best musically, I’m biased for the London symphony in the Chicago symphony
@donaldjones5386
@donaldjones5386 Жыл бұрын
So glad you did this piece, David! I've had the Bernstein-Chicago for years, but rarely listen at home.. I became convinced that it's a piece to be heard only in person after attending a Cleveland Orchestra performance in Miami about ten years ago. Unless memory fails, the notes brought up marching Nazis, though! Surely the history of the piece has contributed to that impression. Your analysis has been most enlightening! Happy that #11 is in the works: a piece I'm fond of, and the naysayers be damned!
@walshamite
@walshamite Жыл бұрын
The 11th was a life changing masterpiece for me. Along with the 4th, priceless works. I feel they reveal his inner emotional tensions and strong feelings to his fully justified anxieties.
@johnwright7557
@johnwright7557 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your most enlightening discussion. I confess that I haven’t listened to the Shostakovich 7th for a number of years, but will have to again soon. Bernstein’s Chicago recording is the only one I have and quite enough for me! If I were to add another, it would probably be Petrenko’s because I really like his way with Shostakovich and have his recordings of most of the other symphonies.
@hutaolover6665
@hutaolover6665 Жыл бұрын
the first recording i listened to was sanderling with the dresden phil and it’s kinda stuck with me since, not because it’s the ultimate recording but because i am too lazy to find a favourite. I’m definitely gonna give these suggestions a listen, and i also loved hearing you talk about the symphony as it is probably my favourite shostakovich symphony. i recently purchased the book “symphony for the city of the dead” and am excitedly awaiting its arrival😩
@francisraymond6361
@francisraymond6361 2 жыл бұрын
"I guess the critics will yell at me for copying Ravel's bolero. Let them talk. This is how I heard the war." Dimitri Shostakovich
@artistinbeziers7916
@artistinbeziers7916 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly; people will think what think, and say what they say.
@murraywhm
@murraywhm 2 жыл бұрын
I also heard Bernstein conduct this, but in Chicago at Orchestra Hall. Though I think Bernstein is too indulgent with Shostakovich, I did enjoy the performance - it worked in spite of the conductor (I recall John von Rhein calling it the "Lenny-grand" Symphony). But my top pick has to be Svetlanov on Melodiya. At times his tempos do push the limits, I still feel the frenzy of war (or Stalinism, if the biography is accurate). The Adagio and especially the extended coda of the fourth movement make this work - I feel like a survivor seeing the carnage realizing surviving is the only victory (I know the battle was far from decided when the music was written). For a two day tour of St Petersburg, I brought Svetlanov's recording and listened to it over and over as we stopped a different sites in and near the city. It was surreal. Svetlanov is the only one that makes me feel this way.
@francisraymond6361
@francisraymond6361 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you for Svetlanov ... I had the good fortune to find the vinyl version in perfect condition a few weeks ago!
@organist2012
@organist2012 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Svetlanov condicting this symphony live in the early nineties. It was stunning, the only time the piece wasn't too long to listen to.
@francisraymond6361
@francisraymond6361 2 жыл бұрын
@@organist2012 Lucky you!
@eduardogonzalez5872
@eduardogonzalez5872 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, for me Svetlanov (1968) is the best.
@Shentazam
@Shentazam 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to excerpts of this work from various “best of” CDs when I started getting into classical. The Neeme Järvi/Scottish Chandos recording is the first time I heard it in its entirety! So yes, the Järvi/Chandos is what imprinted on me when it comes to Shostakovich's 7th.
@tedmann1802
@tedmann1802 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more regarding the Neeme Jarvi reading. Wonderful! We loved him here in Detroit, and we were so sorry when he left. I have to brag a little about the bobblehead I have of him, which he was kind enough to sign for me (NEEME, in big letters across the bobblehead's forehead :)
@AlexMadorsky
@AlexMadorsky 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy oh boy oh boy, what a precious gift to start the day with! Shostakovich’s 7th is tied with the the 4th for my favorite Shostakovich symphony, and they’re both in my favorite five symphonies by any artist. As you say, much ink has been spilled on the subject of what the 7th “actually” means, and as a certified Shostakovich nut, I’ve read nearly all of that ink. Nonetheless, it is a useful exercise to occasionally, you know, listen to the damn music. It is glorious. I could probably name a dozen prominent and obscure 7ths people should listen to, but I’ll (mostly) confine myself to saying that of the recordings you make here, Jarvi’s blistering performance simply must be heard to be believed, wild, wacky, and wonderful. Bernstein with Chicago deserves every ounce of its fine reputation. It is a psychologically overwhelming experience, one of the most moving things I’ve ever heard recorded. Since you mentioned the various boxes out there in passing, I’ll cheat a bit and suggest Maxim Shostakovich and Kitajenko as standouts. Finally, an old Russian favorite that isn’t well recorded: Svetlanov with the USSR Symphony Orchestra. Acoustics are not great, but I have the old double LP and I love the angry brass growling and mixing it up with the other sections. Is it the best performance? Certainly not, but if you love this symphony it’s worth hearing. OK, one more great and very Russian perspective is Kondrashin with the Moscow Phil. Terrifyingly powerful.
@patrickkennedy6616
@patrickkennedy6616 2 жыл бұрын
There is no comparison between the 4th symphony and the very trite 7th. 4 is a blazing masterpiece and 7 should be discarded. This is what Shostakovich wanted.
@jacquesracine9571
@jacquesracine9571 2 жыл бұрын
This symphony makes me feel alive
@Plantagenet1956
@Plantagenet1956 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That tam tam, gets to me, every time I hear you sound it! I think Neeme Järvi has to be my favourite, closely followed by Jansons, & Barshai,. I’ll have to get Petrenko’s. Also, Bernstein!
@DavidJohnson-of3vh
@DavidJohnson-of3vh 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. The only one of those I have is the Lenny/CSO and it is such fun!! I once had a Czech Philharmonic recording, but the sound reproduction was very bad. You could tell they were playing well, but the mics were probably wrapped in thick wet blankets. Pity for that one.
@tothandhu
@tothandhu Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your wise interpretation. Shostakovich is one of my favourite composer. His music is one of the mist enigmativ and tortured music reflecting his age and the Horrible psychological and physical conditions of life, while he had to be painted something different.
@kathleenbrady9916
@kathleenbrady9916 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review....I live in Liverpool and last night heard the Leningrad performed by the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Vasily Petrenko....I'm not able to analyse the music the way you can but what I felt was pain and sorrow, as I do about the current situation of conflict in Gaza/Israel
@hmh6117
@hmh6117 2 жыл бұрын
I listen Berlioz' Requiem for its Sanctus : the tenor (hopfully a very very smoth one), chorus and the soft cymbal touches !
@igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148
@igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Hurwitz for another great repertoire review with the bulls eyes choices, which makes me smile over my recent pick up of the Järvi/Chandos recording at a second hand "64 Cents a title" sale. And let me top up with another Järvi/Shostakovich/Chandos recommendation: Violin Concertos 1 & 2 with Lydia Mordkovitch. Wow!
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
As I said, in my video about the Chandos 40 years box.
@djquinn4212
@djquinn4212 2 жыл бұрын
i picked up for $1 the Järvi/Chandos/Scottish Shosti 5. Another magnificent performance. Keep the shostakovich coming!!!
@andreashelling3076
@andreashelling3076 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the Leningrad phil and M.Jansons alot, both the recording and the live performance they did in Helsinki in the 80s...something really original in that sound of the orchestra then
@firzaakbarpanjaitan9408
@firzaakbarpanjaitan9408 2 жыл бұрын
Finally it has arrived! One of my most favourite symphony, propaganda be damned. Great video dave, i will surely try hearing your recommendations.
@gregoryemery8605
@gregoryemery8605 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating talk, thanks. I think the 7th works at best in concert. I saw the late Mariss Jansons playing it Montreal and it was spectacular. In the first movement, the circulation of the theme in the first movement was really impressive. I was feeling as being on an agitated sea, the theme going left to right, forward, backward, up and down. I never feel that way while listening to the symphony on my system (which is fairly good), and certainly not in the Jansons' recordings ! I am glad to see Temirkanov, I don't know his 7th but I like many of his Shostakovich, in particular the cello concertos with Natalia Gutman. Mr Hurwitz I know your favorite version is the one by Heinrich Schiff, but you should do a video about the cello concertos !!
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
I will.
@colinwrubleski7627
@colinwrubleski7627 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting observation about Janssons' DSCH 7 working better in live performance than on disk. Also saw MJ do it live in a Canadian hall, albeit with the Oslo Phil in Roy Rogers, er, Roy Thomson Hall, Toronto. Something special, for sure...
@ColinWrubleski-eq5sh
@ColinWrubleski-eq5sh 29 күн бұрын
​@@colinwrubleski7627: Also in c. 2007, within a few weeks of each other, heard live two different performances of this DSCH #7 in Seoul, one by Dmitri Kitaenjko and the KBS Symphony Orchestra, the other by the Seoul Youth Orchestra (sorry i cannot remember the name of the conductor; stereotypically, Kim something-or-other). The youth orchestra performance, to be blunt, was MUCH better; the ostensible professionals, aside from the fabulous Eastern European first horn, were slovenly and badly out of tune. Very disappointing...
@jacquesracine9571
@jacquesracine9571 2 жыл бұрын
I imprinted on Jansons many many years ago… I love this piece.
@ilyagrey8400
@ilyagrey8400 3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@adamfrye246
@adamfrye246 2 жыл бұрын
I read in the liner notes for String Quartet #6 that there was some sequential repetition that went on longer than the harmonic framework for for it that represented the idle chatter of the government leaders. And when I heard the passage I didn't have to read in too much to get the meaning of the calculated banality...
@mangstadt1
@mangstadt1 9 ай бұрын
I once started a novel that was to be based on Shostakovich's Seventh. For each minute of music there were to be around 1,000 words. The first movement went to 29,400 words. I sent it to my muse, hoping to stir up some doubt about her future wedding with somebody else, only to get the manuscript returned to me unopened. I was unable to write the other three movements and never inquired about her ever again. Infatuation can make you do stupid things. It was fun nonetheless.
@paulybarr
@paulybarr Жыл бұрын
The passage at 14.23 always reminds me of the Intermezzo from the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra, six bars after fig 92 in the score. They're also both in E flat at that point. I wonder whether Shostakovich was conscious of that. But this work bores the pants off me; give me the Eighth any day.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide Жыл бұрын
Bartok was parodying Shostakovich.
@ippolit23
@ippolit23 Жыл бұрын
Legend has it that Kousevitzy made Béla Bartók listen to this Symphony on the radio after which Bartók wouldn't utter a word - but later, he would possibly show how he could out-shostakowitch Shostakovitch with his Concerto for Orchestra and the infamous citation of the Leningrad Symphony in the "intermezzo interotto".
@renegadenukerider
@renegadenukerider 2 жыл бұрын
My Classical “library” has two shelves of Shostakovich; I originally purchased the CDs to build a collection, yet never took a single recording off the shelf until today. I actually have Bernstein’s DG “7th”, and … wow. It’s like listening to a controlled demolition, except the symphony remains, but your ears are scrambled. So glad you did this video - time for me to enjoy more Shostakovich (finally).
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Happy listening!
@scagooch
@scagooch 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to listen to all my recordings. I would need to call in sick for that though.
@francispanny5068
@francispanny5068 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Bernstein CSO DG account. For one thing, it is complete. It is even better than the NYPO account, with its inexcusable cut you mentioned in the video (approximately 10 bars cut). He brought out the Mahlerian qualities that no other conductor could in this recording.
@artistinbeziers7916
@artistinbeziers7916 2 жыл бұрын
It does a mortal sin to even contemplate making cuts in Shostakovich!
@ScottAReid
@ScottAReid 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip. looked it up and all the reviews are spot on with the CSO version. 2 CD's, just ordered it. i love the 7th, most amazing thing ever.
@MarauderOSU
@MarauderOSU 2 жыл бұрын
The Temirkanov recording was the very first recording I ever heard of the Leningrad. I ended up falling out of love with it later on. But then, I got Bernstein and fell back in love with it again.
@ahartify
@ahartify 2 жыл бұрын
While on the topic of Shostakovich, I thought one day you might like to do a video on timpanists and symphonies with great parts for timpany. Shostakovich must be a timpanist's dream. There is a YT clip of Paul Philbert going crazy with the timpany on The Leningrad Symphony with the Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra. Come to think if it, you might also like to do a clip one day on not--so-well-known orchestras around the world deserving of more attention.
@bolemirnoc604
@bolemirnoc604 2 жыл бұрын
The fact, that the thematic material of the evil development is completely derived from the "happy" beginning proves, that the evil could not come from an enemy outside, this evil has been always incorporated there in the society around Shostakovich. It could happen anywhere, anytime, that the evil in the mankind manifests itself in a very brutal way and than seems to vanish again and everything seems to be fine.
@minquino
@minquino 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that "discussion" a lot. Thank you. I agree that the nazi versus the commies stuff trivialises the music - as I also think the poor-suicidal-Tchaikovsky story banalises the Pathétique - the music per se is to me both much simpler and more complex as such. My first experience with Shostas no. 7 was an unforgettable performance with Sanderling - I remember being swept away by an icy and moving third movement but as I did not know the work then I could not tell whether it was shortened or not. How I treasure the memory of that concert. Thanks again for many interesting videos! Keep on sending.
@paulwgibson
@paulwgibson 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention it, so I assume it falls into the "good-not great" category, but I remember Masur/NYP really surprising me in this (and the 13th) on Teldec... Surprising me in a good way with more emotion, energy and sharper teeth than I would have expected. Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised because all my favorite Masur/NYP discs are of non-german core rep which is what he was supposedly there to do with them. Jarvi remains my favorite here. Thanks as always Dave.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 13th is great, the 7th very good, more for the Phil than for Masur.
@frankgyure3154
@frankgyure3154 2 жыл бұрын
I was just down some reading. The Berglund/Bournemouth recording was mentioned by DH. Considering when the 7th was composed (1941-42) I was surprised that the Berglund was the first time it was recorded in the UK.
@frankgyure3154
@frankgyure3154 2 жыл бұрын
Berglund was recorded in 1974. Some 30 years after it was composed.
@jeremysmith302
@jeremysmith302 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about Haitink’s Shostakovich 4 with the CSO? I think it approaches LB’s version of the 7th in impact.
@harinagarajan2296
@harinagarajan2296 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr Hurwitz: Magnificent as always. That analysis of the first movement is wonderful. I am glad that there is this channel of yours. I own three of your recommendations (listened to Bernstein conducting this at orchestra hall and that was an experience that will remain for the rest of my life). I have long wanted to ask some one like you about the entire controversy surrounding Toscanini's performance of this. I find it hugely musical and have often returned to it after listening to other versions as part of a "cleansing" ritual!. The middle two movements have this languid pathos and melancholy (the bass clarinet is wonderful with that "burr"). I am told tat there a a few errors and sufficiently Russian. Of course the sound is atrocious in some places. But as an interpretation is it bad? Hari
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the interpretation isn't bad. I'm with you. I have no idea what all the fuss is about--certainly not the musical result. It seems to be another one of those cases where it's more fun to bitch and moan than to actually listen. Rule of them: as soon as someone says that a performance is insufficiently (insert national adjective), then you almost always know they have nothing meaningful to say.
@harinagarajan2296
@harinagarajan2296 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide Many thanks for that. And they say this about his Berlioz and Elgar interpretations as well is it not. These being not sufficiently French or English. Hari
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
@@harinagarajan2296 No problem. And that was "rule of thumb!"
@davidaltschuler9687
@davidaltschuler9687 2 жыл бұрын
A surprisingly good S7, played quickly and classically, is Kegel in Leipzig on Weitblick, rec. 1972. First two movements even faster than N. Jarvi but it works.
@AlexMadorsky
@AlexMadorsky 2 жыл бұрын
I heard the Kegel for the first time a few weeks back and thought it was outstanding!
@bendingcaesar65
@bendingcaesar65 2 жыл бұрын
I would add one more performance to your list, David, and that's Svetlanov's 1968 recording. No, it's not well recorded, but it's the only performance I know that conveys that raw, relentless terror that must have been present during the Leningrad performance, in the middle of the blockade. BTW, as an aside, I always find an interesting parallel between Soviet-era composers who kept having to invent creative ways to get around state censorship, and Hollywood filmmakers of the same period, who had to find creative ways to get around the Hays Code, and the general limitations the studios put on them. Hitchcock was famous for doing that.
@davidhollingsworth1847
@davidhollingsworth1847 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It is a great Russian, in your face, recording. Kondrashin and the Moscow Philharmonic fit that bill as well.
@richardsauer7494
@richardsauer7494 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the old Ancerl/Czech Philharmonic on a Parliament LP....can't remember it..How was it?
@AlexMadorsky
@AlexMadorsky 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just ok in my opinion. I’m a huge fan of Ancerl but I don’t think his 7th is particularly impressive.
@moshegoldstein4663
@moshegoldstein4663 2 жыл бұрын
Hi dear dave.i feel the rimsky Korsakoff operas,are not much known or generally apriciated as they should...the gergeiev box offers some delightful music,almost unknown...is it a bad idea to give them a short survey?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's a good idea, but it's also not a rush.
@djquinn4212
@djquinn4212 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide I submit again my request for a Czech opera and Russian opera overview! Or at least the Decca Mackeras/Janacek box with all his opera recordings.
@jacquesjolivet5685
@jacquesjolivet5685 2 жыл бұрын
And have you listened to the Alexander Sladkovsky recording on Melodya which Christophe Huss has strongly recommended?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@jacquesjolivet5685
@jacquesjolivet5685 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide is it worth exploring?
@Fafner888
@Fafner888 2 жыл бұрын
Jansons and the Concertgebouw should be mentioned too as it's the most musical and dignified performance of this piece out there (but without being underplayed or lacking in impact).
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Boring.
@eadora
@eadora 2 жыл бұрын
YES - I hear what you say.
@reiner_hohn123
@reiner_hohn123 Жыл бұрын
There is another recording by Paavo Järvi with RNO on Pentatone. Sounds good to me.
@alecsachs9082
@alecsachs9082 8 ай бұрын
Hi Dave! What do you think of The Mravinsky recording from 1953?
@Carlossardina
@Carlossardina 2 жыл бұрын
Kondrashin!
@ohartnet81
@ohartnet81 Жыл бұрын
The Bernstein/CSO seems to have a hate it or love it following. The brass is absolutely amazing and I love the key change in the march and haven't heard it done better. However, it is SLOOOW. He really milks the slow parts too. Ashkenazy feels a bit more balanced to me. My favorites: Ashkenazy/Kondrashin (percussion really grooves in this one)/Berglund/Jarvi/Jansons
@bugopolo
@bugopolo 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dave, Although the 7th is not my fave of the DS output, I have enjoyed this video (as I do with all of your vids) immensely. I’m desperately trying to buy your book about Shostakovich and I’m finding it difficult to find a new copy and one that doesn’t cost a bazillion Shekels on Amazon. I want it! How do I get it? Thanks, Noam
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
It's on the publisher's website and store: Rowman and Littlefield. Here's a link: rowman.com/ISBN/9781574671315/Shostakovich-Symphonies-and-Concertos-An-Owner's-Manual
@davidsilverman1741
@davidsilverman1741 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide Ordered!! And thanks in advance, I know I will enjoy it, as I have enjoyed every single one of your analysis of Shostakovich's works - and of all others!
@robertkunath1854
@robertkunath1854 2 жыл бұрын
I am very grateful for DH's analysis of the music. I've got 8 recordings of the symphony, but I lack the ability to identify the way the themes build on one another. I learn so much from these videos! But I am more uncertain when it comes to ascertaining the meaning of the music. Glenn Gould commented that Beethoven's fame was based crucially on the drama of his biography. That strikes me as quite wrong, but it may be true of Shostakovich. Heard as searing testimony, his music has a power that it might not command as "pure" music. But I am a historian, so I am riveted by it. Elizabeth Wilson's biographical compilation _Shostakovich: A Life Remembered_ notes that Shostakovich was evacuated from Leningrad on October 1, after a month in the besieged city (p. 148). He took with him a score containing the first three movements of the symphony, which he completed at the end of December of 1941, after a hellish journey to Kuibyshev. Several witnesses testify that Shostakovich cautioned against identifying the symphony solely as a condemnation of Nazi fascism (sometimes clearly connecting it to Soviet totalitarianism), but the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union is an important component of this music, I think.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
No, I don't hear it, and while I agree with you that biography can be a meaningful aspect of one's appreciation of certain works, and it has certainly created mounds of favorable PR around Shostakovich's, I do feel his music ultimately succeeds on its inherent musical integrity.
@gaylelinney180
@gaylelinney180 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoroughly level-headed comments about the 'meaning' of this symphony. Like you, I think the remarks about this music in Testimony ring true. No quibbles with your top 5 and I'm pleased you included the Berglund. You mentioned Barshai only in passing but I think his version is very good. My other vote would be for the recording endorsed in an earlier comment by Mr Murray, the Kondrashin. The recording is not at all bad (maybe a little boxy); the performance is right on the money. Just to pick one detail, the flutter-tonguing trumpets at fig.49 of the first movement - wow!
@judsonmusick3177
@judsonmusick3177 Жыл бұрын
Dave, I think I might have an answer as to why Bernstein used the cut version of the Symphony #7 when he recorded it in New York . His recording with the Chicago Symphony of the uncut version of the Symphony was 85 minutes long - too long to fit comfortably on 2 LPs back in the early 1960s. Does that sound plausible?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. The symphony easily fits on three (or four) LP sides. Colombia had no problem with 30-minute long Mahler symphony movements, so I don't think length was the issue here. I think Bernstein just thought that particular variation sounded silly as written. Remember, he didn't just make a "cut" as in one thing--he eliminated literal repeats throughout the variation in question, so it's really like 8 tiny cuts.
@curseofmillhaven1057
@curseofmillhaven1057 2 жыл бұрын
Really thanks Mr H - explanation of meaning through analysis rather than dubious conjecture. It's almost trite to say that ridiculous ostinato just represents the advance of the German army. Actually you could argue the first movement is about useless destruction by two political ideologies essentially cut of the same cloth. Although Bartok beautifully lampooned it in his Concerto for Orchestra, the work itself in it's entirerety is ultimately very moving.
@curseofmillhaven1057
@curseofmillhaven1057 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Nah not shameful, as we don't fully know Bartok's intention - it sounds obviously comedic but not necessarily at Shostakovich's expense. And even if it was, so what? Shostakovich's reputation didn't suffer and it's just brilliant the way it's executed. Let's face it neither composer had a particularly easy time of it, although I think the neglect Bartok suffered estranged from home and ill was very sad and something he could do nothing about. As for Boulez - well he was critical I believe about the Concerto for Orchestra so there's no accounting for taste!
@wendychen5779
@wendychen5779 2 жыл бұрын
I have been listening to "classical music" or, "concert music" for nearly 70 years now. This long absorption has made me even more convinced about the silliness of "interpreting" music, such as saying the first movement of the Shostakovich 7th is describing the Nazi army marching toward Leningrad, or about Stalin's oppressive menace, or about the evil of war or violence toward humanity in general. It's all of the above and more, much more. As an artist, Shostakovich would have been influenced by any of the historical (read: temporal and specific) human events, just like any other human being of a certain time and place would, but the creative process inevitably transcends all these temporal concerns to come up with the work that transcends the here and now to become something universal. In short, trust the art (music), more than the artist or events behind it. Listen to the music, first and foremost. Know about its composer and the historical background (if available), if you like, to have some "perspective" of the creation, again, if that can increase your appreciation of the created work. Fine. No point arguing that, say, a certain painting is about a horse; some would argue it's about a donkey; another would bet it's a devil in disguise. It's all and none of the above; it's a piece of creation. Like it, enjoy it, or hate it, but please try not to argue it is (or is not) about this or that. By the way, the so-called "program music" is another matter that is beyond the scope of my brief take on "interpreting" Shostakovich 7th.
@user-ez4or8ly4c
@user-ez4or8ly4c 2 жыл бұрын
The "musical prostitution" concept can be found in his 9th. Instead of an apopheosic triumphant heroic ballade the "music of drunkards in the bar" takes place. Shostakovich would be really executed for that.
@wanowan9700
@wanowan9700 2 жыл бұрын
My first ever Shostakovich was the 7th by Bernstein. I think i got 3 or 4 version of that Symphony and to follow your recommendation i got the Jarvi version. You got fast, very fast and there is Jarvi. Holy Christ, it's Shostakovich on crack cocaine.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it wonderful?
@wanowan9700
@wanowan9700 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide it is a shock. while i am replying to this message i'm listening your : Repertoire: The IDEAL Beethoven Symphony Cycle. So many new informations, so many new versions i never heard, so many new conductors i did not even knew they existed. Love your channel but you might bring some new obsessions into my life (see my comments for the Bruckner 8). Saluations from Montreal.
@b1i2l336
@b1i2l336 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding, thank you! What, no mention of Toscanini? (Haha! Shostakovich was appalled by that performance.) Can't wait to see what you have to say about the best Shostakovich 5th!
@NealSchultz
@NealSchultz 2 жыл бұрын
These classical music stations around the U.S. should put Dave's shows on the radio - like what Marian McPartland did for jazz. Dave is the consummate professional quality and FUN!
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. I loved Marian McPartland. She was fabulous.
@jacobfreeland6881
@jacobfreeland6881 9 ай бұрын
Nevermind Shostakovich 7: the Bernstein/CSO recording is one of the best-executed recordings of any orchestral work ever.
@joosroets5533
@joosroets5533 2 жыл бұрын
Very best sonics: Kitajenko !
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but not the most interesting performance.
@BrainiacFingers
@BrainiacFingers 2 жыл бұрын
Your tam tam gave me shivers. Amazing! I'm surprised you didn't mention that the so-called "Russian army" music briefly morphs into a quotation from Tchaikovsky's 5th.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Because it doesn't.
@BrainiacFingers
@BrainiacFingers 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide Oh, but it does. Three bars before figure 50 in the Shostakovich score he quite deliberately quotes the finale of Tchaikovsky's 5th. Don't know whereabouts in the Tchaikovsky score - maybe about 6 or 7 minutes from the end. The big descending brass theme. The Tchaikovsky theme descends C B A G F# E. Shostakovich starts a semi tone down and rounds it with off with the silly two note ending you eloquently talked about. Now wether or not the quotation morphs out of the "Russian Army" theme you mentioned , I'm not sure now. I'll have to check but it is there, three bars before figure 50.
@gaylelinney180
@gaylelinney180 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrainiacFingers the resemblance comes much earlier in both symphonies - in the Shostakovich right from the first iteration of the "invasion" theme, 10 after fig. 19; in the Tchaikovsky it's in the clarinet solo right at the beginning (bars 6-8). Since it's no more than a descending scale, calling it a quotation might be a stretch.
@gaylelinney180
@gaylelinney180 2 жыл бұрын
Just the other day I noticed another use of the descending scale passage with a "silly two-note ending" - it's in Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man! He does it twice, in bars 36-40. There's also an abbreviated version in Sibelius' Fifth Symphony, heard many times in the Andante mosso movement.
@BrainiacFingers
@BrainiacFingers 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaylelinney180 The difference is, those two examples don't sound anything like Tchaikovsky's 5th and don't evoke it. The brief passage for Brass in Shostakovich's 7th does sound like it and does evoke it and, IMO, does so intentionally, for therein lies the "joke".
@davidowen9308
@davidowen9308 2 жыл бұрын
heard Jarvi with the RSNO in Edinburgh a good deal later than the recording and it's the most stunning performance I've ever heard overall and quite likely the best I ever heard from this conductor live. I agree also that Bernstein is very fine in most parts. The correct pacing in the finale is an absolute nightmare with most conductors creating a shambles -- here Svetlanov is miraculous by not putting a foot wrong. And I don't mind the rough Russian recording in this case but Svetlanov does at times lack repose where it's needed in the first or 3rd movements. I haven't yet heard the ideal recording of what I think is actually an underrated work, all its notoriety aside.
@avihalevi5042
@avihalevi5042 2 жыл бұрын
David I too heard Temirkanov live with the Leningrad...was blown away ! Hurt my back hitting the rear wall ...sorry I didn't wave to you. You are right...even the "unison "Soviet" bowing was memorizing.....besides Bernstein, I think only Mravinsky live or in good sound would be on a short list ...Berglund was a sonic blockbuster in analog days (UK pressing only)
@aatim2308
@aatim2308 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis of the first movement! I love this symphony as it has so many atypical for Shostakovich beautifully done melodic lines. Not other of his symphonies has such expanded, yet sophisticated themes as, for example, the second subject of the first movement. The moderato and begining of the finale are, as well, smart and captivating. Regarding the finale, I like rather unpopular interpretation by Eduardo Mata, he's probably the only conductor who didn't rush the tempo in 'scherzo' to the point where the music turns to mess (though maybe Shostakovich meant that?) Also, fine that you mentioned Nielsen. I wonder if Shostakovich had ever heard his music, they definitely have some similarities. The begining of the 7th reminds me the initial bars of Nielsen clarinet concerto. They both use allusions to war and snare drums even if it's more of a cliché. And the biggest mystery, what's happened to their last symphonies, they both started with glockenspiel solos, though Nielsen did it 50 years earlier.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like Mata's "Leningrad", albeit not as a top choice. He also did a very good Shostakovich 9th which, along with the 7th, appears in the mid-price "Dallas Symphony Orchestra: The Eduardo Mata Years" box from Dorian, which is worth considering for the other goodies it contains.
@frankgyure3154
@frankgyure3154 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I am still having tremendous problems with Shosty symphonies. I like his concertos,string quartets. I like and can listen to the 4,5. I bought the V..Petrenko cycle just to have the whole thing. I have the stereo Ormandy recordings. I think the Shosty symphonies are just too long. But I will keep on trying to listen.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Some of them are too long. Eventually you learn to accept it for the emotional payoff.
@artistinbeziers7916
@artistinbeziers7916 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide That's very true. Often, it does pay to persist with a piece, if you KNOW that you WANT to like it! One day the coin drops.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
@@artistinbeziers7916 Exactly!
@HassoBenSoba
@HassoBenSoba 2 жыл бұрын
As Maestro Hurwitz says "Keep on (trying to) Listen!
@AlexMadorsky
@AlexMadorsky 2 жыл бұрын
I return to this worthiest of all videos to sing the praises of a sleeper: Herbert Kegel live with Leipzig in 1972 on the Weitblick label. Listened to it this morning on Qobuz and it is absolutely fantastic, full of punchy, pulsating, modernist, Leninist vigor. Highly recommended to those who stream; physical product is hard to source but most streaming platforms have Kegel’s take on the 7th.
@rotacid6436
@rotacid6436 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Very directive performance. One of the best Shos 7 I've ever heard.
@ngershon
@ngershon 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the march in the first movement was the Russians getting their act together 🙈
@adamfrye246
@adamfrye246 2 жыл бұрын
We have to listen in a way which we enjoy it, which is why i struggle with this composer.
@ngershon
@ngershon 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamfrye246 and totally enjoy this symphony, albeit I'm more of a Mahler guy, it's just that was the story I thought the symphony told. Nothing wrong with programmatic music.
@marknewkirk4322
@marknewkirk4322 2 жыл бұрын
I rather like the Ancerl/Czech Phil recording, but it's sonics admittedly are not ideal.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
I like it too, but as you say...
@alfredolabbe
@alfredolabbe 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide I have the Ancerl. It's a mono recording, but a wonderful interpretation.
@jacquesjolivet5685
@jacquesjolivet5685 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Bernstein NY Phil recording a good alternative?
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
No, as I said in the video.
@carlconnor5173
@carlconnor5173 2 жыл бұрын
I put the Bernstein/CSO on, but I had to pause it to go somewhere. While driving Brahms #2 by Muti/PO was on the radio. It’s a gorgeous recording. After that I just couldn’t resume Shostakovich! Later tonight perhaps. BTW, my local station was celebrating Muti’s 80th birthday.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have stuck with Shostakovich.
@carlconnor5173
@carlconnor5173 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide I got back to it later, as planned. I don’t get KZfaq in my car. I don’t think you can.
@Listenerandlearner870
@Listenerandlearner870 2 жыл бұрын
Shostakovich playing bits of it on piano is zippy.
@tomross5347
@tomross5347 2 жыл бұрын
What do you make of Bartok's mockery of that trite march tune in his Concerto for Orchestra? Did he despise Shostakovich entirely, or was he just unable to resist making fun of the 7th? It doesn't sound as if Bartok thought the triteness might be purposeful!
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
A joke's a joke. There's no point in speculating about the rationale.
@tomross5347
@tomross5347 2 жыл бұрын
@@hmhparis1904 I've often read in program notes that Bartok was referencing Shostakovich directly, but I'm not sure if Bartok himself ever really said so. Now that you mention it, Bartok's version of the theme sounds more like Lehar than Shostakovich's version does.
@adamfrye246
@adamfrye246 2 жыл бұрын
I think the rationale of a joke is what makes it funny or not. Without that it's just mental.
@BorjaVarona_at_YT
@BorjaVarona_at_YT 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the soundness of your argument at circa 22:05. However, I am not a scholar, only a classical music lover and have always viewed that first movement as a portrait of the general stupidity of the masses all over the world. I do not think that Shostakovich was so aware of the Stalinist atrocities at the time but, possibly, he sensed that the same wicked political manipulation of the fascists in Western Europe was mirrored in the Soviet Union. This is politics and I would understand that you removed my comment, but political regimes of many kinds have arguably always been based on simple, small slogans (little tunes?) in which citizens are told that their problems were caused by 'you-name-who-you-hate'. I think that possibly the whole development section tries to depict that concept applied not only to soviets or nazis (or world wars), but to politicicians everywhere when they point at your 'enemy' for you to hate him, or when they hoist stupid concepts for the masses to do their job for them (to charge unarmed against the enemy lines? to starve yourself to death in a soon-to-be-occupied city? to fight your neighbour in a civil war?) What I do not understand is the function of the adagio and the finale. Must the ending must be taken as hope, really optimistic hope? Anyway, this is my favourite Shostakovich symphony.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe that Shostakovich was much aware of "the generally stupidity of the masses," nor did he feel that way about them at all. He was an artist, yes, but not an elitist. He was well aware of the repressions of the Stalinist regime, having been a victim of them himself as a result of the Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk scandal--this is all well documented and beyond question. He had a horror of violence and prejudice of any kind. I prefer not to speculate on what he may or may not have "sensed," and focus on his actual experience and what we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. But as I said, if this interpretation works for you, then go for it.
@johnanderton4200
@johnanderton4200 2 жыл бұрын
One critic characterized the opening of the symphony as powerful but "stupid" music, its uncharacteristic unison writing seeming to evoke an unthinking herd.
@hoifcheu7533
@hoifcheu7533 2 жыл бұрын
"Fight over nothing" and "mindless aggression" are perhaps the profundity of this symphony as a response to WWII, the siege of Leningrad, to Stalin and Hitler... using simple musical forms and silly materials to achieve that profundity is Shostakovich's genius.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@hoifcheu7533
@hoifcheu7533 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtyFactual_IntelligenceGenocide belongs the "mindless aggression" part. There were millions of Chinese killed by Japanese too. Yes, "fight over nothing" is correct! I stand by it. You need to understand the antiwar comment in context -- "fighting over nothing" is not to say that the defense for the victims of racism is over nothing, but that the supremist aggressors are fighting over no good cause.
@ruramikael
@ruramikael 2 жыл бұрын
The 1st movement is indeed pure sarcasm.
@ruramikael
@ruramikael 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Also Shostakovich hinted at that the symphony is more about Soviet before the war than the nazis.
@belpit66
@belpit66 2 жыл бұрын
This is the one Shostakovich piece I absolutely refuse to listen to. The last time I tried I got an earworm of that stupid march that stuck with me for a couple of days. Bah!
@franklehman8677
@franklehman8677 2 жыл бұрын
Call me a heretic, but for me Shostakovich 12 > Shostakovich 7 .
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Heretic.
@AlexMadorsky
@AlexMadorsky 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 12th, but…I wouldn’t go that far. Or nearly that far. The first movement of the 12 is wonderfully engrossing. What comes afterward, not as much.
@DavesClassicalGuide
@DavesClassicalGuide 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexMadorsky I agree.
@HassoBenSoba
@HassoBenSoba 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide So do I, but the 7th has such tremendous weaknesses..starting with its bloated length..that I'd choose #12, if only because it's much more compact. The 7th's scherzo is clever, but the Adagio and finale, despite individual moments (and musical ideas) that are powerful and moving, nevertheless seems to be "running on (or near) empty" most of the time. Lenny and the CSO make the best case for it that I know of. I learned #7 more than 50 years ago..in my youthful Shostakovich frenzy...and #'s 5, 6, 8, 10 came out the clear winners. This was in the days BEFORE you could get a recording of 2 & 3 (Morton Gould wonderful version was imminent); the pirated Everest release of #13 was brand new, and #' 14 and 15 had not yet been written. Seems like only yesterday. LR
@briananderson8428
@briananderson8428 Жыл бұрын
"It's got to blow you against the back wall. It just has to." Exactly! And yes: The Järvi is the best!!! Oooops. Nope. The Bernstein is actually the best. Damn. They are both the best but SOOO different. I think I prefer the Bernstein slightly, because in general conductors play classical music at too fast a tempo. Bernstein's tempo is perfect throughout.
@muslit
@muslit 2 жыл бұрын
Shostakovich often wrote bad music to make a non-musical point. Probably too often.
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