Just how "merry" are those pranks? Some performances convey more of the music's madcap humor than others. Let's see if we can discover which ones deliver the goods.
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@frgraybean4 жыл бұрын
The old CBS disc of Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra playing Till, Don and Tod is a miracle. I've loved it for decades!
@ernestrobles15104 жыл бұрын
Your neighbors must love you.
@edgecroft4 жыл бұрын
First, I am loving these videos. Second, whatever you changed lately to make them louder has made it so much easier for me to hear them. Thanks!
@GastonBulbous2 жыл бұрын
This showed up again in my KZfaq recommendations, and I watched again, as delighted as when I first watched it. As light, effervescent and well-structured as its subject matter, it’s funny and informative, one of your greatest hits.
@MegaVicar4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Your comments on Kempe and the importance of woodwinds tell me why TILL is my second favorite Strauss tone poem. I was gonna ask about DON QUIXOTE, but you answered that. 😎
@playandteach5 ай бұрын
That ratchet is known in the UK as a football [soccer] ratchet. By the way... you mentioned the opening figure of Shostakovich 5 - the pairs of notes - and their similarity to Brahms 4 opening. Well, this Till Eulenspiegel theme has always reminded me of Brahms 4 too. It's funny to hear a percussionist worry about the one triangle note, when the Eb clarinet player (winding up to represent Till's soul escaping his body, after the most terrifying snare drum roll) is about to blow his retinas and what's left of his sobriety. Give me a triangle note any day.
@joewebb19834 жыл бұрын
Totally agree about Kempe, his EMI box with the Staatskapelle Dresden was my first Strauss set and I treasure it to this day. In terms of some more recent recordings I think Petrenko/Oslo and Chailly/Lucerne do a good job. Playing is superb and the performances are really exciting, as well as thoughtfully played picking out lots of detail in the fabulously written woodwind parts. Also a fan of Dorati's Strauss, on the Mercury disc you can hear him jumping about and grunting at some of the climaxes! Brilliant!
@LyleFrancisDelp4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you included the Szell. A budget Odyssey LP was my introduction to three great Strauss tome poems. To be honest, it's still my benchmark, though I also love Kempe/Dresden.
@williamwhittle2164 жыл бұрын
Love your inside stories!
@DavesClassicalGuide4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@tommynielsen71634 жыл бұрын
‘Colour comes from the woodwind’, which instinctively would have me reach for Czech Phil. And wonderful recording of Till under Ancerl.
@barryguerrero76524 жыл бұрын
I agree that Kempe's Berlin "Don Quixote" is outstanding.
@jeffreyf.milarsky1968Ай бұрын
No Szell? It is one of his greatest recordings. And he played his piano reduction for Strauss. Szell is a miracle in this work.
@DavesClassicalGuideАй бұрын
The problem with Szell is that you might as well include him in just about any list of works that he recorded.
@johnwright77494 жыл бұрын
I have Kempe’s EMI and agree that it’s pretty terrific, though I still prefer Solti. The CSO plays the daylights out of Till-especially those horns!! A new recording that has the best Don Quixote since Reiner’s and Szell’s in my view is by Vasily Petrenko and the Oslo Phil and also contains a delightful Till and a very good Don Juan.
@curseofmillhaven10574 жыл бұрын
Don't know if it has an appropriately sized ratchet but really like Abbado's performance with the LSO on DG (full of wonderful details, like the grisly sound of the D clarinet sqeeling away during the execution). Also have Karajan's VPO on a Decca LP which I like.
@barryguerrero76523 жыл бұрын
"Till" is one of those works where the more I hear it, the more I wish it would just go away! (we're all different - that's what makes the world go round).
@markokassenaar43876 ай бұрын
Apart from the coloring, the tempo is very important for the atmosphere and the humor. Conductors who take the piece too slow, making it sound like an excercise, just don’t get it. The same goes for Don Juan.
@damiangruszczynski74514 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I missed Honeck with PSO in your review but as you said: there is a bunch of recording worth of listen ;-) keep on telling Dave!
@DavesClassicalGuide4 жыл бұрын
As I said below, I love the Honeck but I hesitate to add to the "permanent" pile until I listen some more to see how well it ages. I've been sitting on his "Eroica," which I think is one of the truly great ones, for almost a year now just to make sure I still hear what so impressed me on first listen. That's the problem with so much criticism--we have to listen and then write, but so often we feel differently later. With some titles, at least, I don't want to be rushed into making a decision.
@damiangruszczynski74514 жыл бұрын
David Hurwitz ...this should be a study for aesthetics, cognitive scientist, brain physiologist and psychologist etc. My colleague, who is one of the most important music critics in Poland, Oskar Łapeta (your subscriber also) makes very interesting and insightful guides to various works (recently Mahler's Symphony No. 2) and I know this problem from his example , although in his case, the sensations do not change that much (an issue to be examined by a brain physiologist maybe?) For me, who has lived with various works intensively for 25 years or more, changes in perception are happening with learning new approaches to selected music , it is a really complex process and I value the responsibility with which you approach your reviews process - cheers.Damian
@charlescoleman55094 жыл бұрын
I just looked at that percussion part you mentioned. Imagine how this entrance issue would be forever resolved if there was a cue of the opening Violin line in this last section. One less minute or two of confusion in the middle of a rehearsal. Geez!
@sjc12043 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh. I had not heard the Solti. Kind of rediscovering the piece. Until now I had only the San Francisco with HB (Decca) which I bought on release day and love but this Solti might be a close second. I'll look for the Kempe.
@cartologist3 жыл бұрын
Starting to read your Strauss book, courtesy of my local library.
@DavesClassicalGuide3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy, and thank you!
@lukeskywalker1114 Жыл бұрын
How would you rate dudamel’s till eulenspiegel?
@Stephenjamesbutler3 жыл бұрын
Your ratchet is what we used to call rattle and they used to be popular at football (soccer) matches until they were banned as dangerous weapons
@AdamCzarnowski3 жыл бұрын
Surprising, but probably not for you, the wittiest, most symphonic Till Eulenspiegel I have ever heard is the Philharmonia's recording with Otto Klemperer. In Mozart, Haydn and virtually any of the core symphonic repertoire, the late Dr. Klemperer was hard to beat. He was, of course, great in 20th century music, going back to his 1920s roots at the Kroll.
@paulwgibson4 жыл бұрын
A little surprised that Honeck/Pitt missed your list. Also, I have a soft spot for Sawallisch/Philly live in Japan on EMI. Kempe I like the performance, but the cymbals sound so chintzy! (His Dresden Strauss set suffers percussion-wise in general I feel.) Szell wins for me of the older recordings. Cheers David!
@DavesClassicalGuide4 жыл бұрын
I thought about Honeck and like it very much, but I just want to live with it a little longer to see how well it ages.
@mozpiano24 жыл бұрын
What about recordings of Strauss himself conducting this work?
@classicalduck4 жыл бұрын
IMAO, they are primarily of historic interest, as Strauss was a curiously uninvolved performer of his own music, at least in his later years.
@jeffreyf.milarsky1968Ай бұрын
Triangle players are heros!
@DavesClassicalGuideАй бұрын
Damn right!
@juliodogpit4 жыл бұрын
I know you don't like him, but my favorite performance of this work is by Furtwängler with the Wiener Philharmoniker. The sheer intensity and variety of colors is amazing.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why anyone feels I don't "like" Furtwangler because I am critical of some of his recordings. In general, I think many of those that he actually authorized are superior. The problem is that there's a lot of unauthorized junk floating around that does not find him at his best, and that I strongly doubt he would have approved. To this extent, I feel that I am more respectful regarding his legacy, and a better defender of it, than many of his more rabid fans.
@juliodogpit4 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide I understand, and agree. I got the sense of your dislike for him from your general praises for precision and literalism (specially for the likes of Szell and Toscanini). Furtwangler beign the greatest exponent against this type of interpretation, allied with some of your criticism towards him, made me think that you generally don't like his music.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 жыл бұрын
@@juliodogpit Fair enough, but then I enjoy Beecham, Stokowski, Bernstein, and Scherchen, none of whom could be called "literalists" either. In general, I try to be open to a wide range of interpretive viewpoints, as long as they are realized successfully. Remember, it's not just the conductor's job to have ideas. Anyone can have ideas. He has to get the orchestra to implement them at the highest standard of which they are capable. That is a matter of professional competence, plain and simple.
@asheko3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know your opinion of the composers own recording with the Wiener Philharmoniker from 1944.
@DavesClassicalGuide3 жыл бұрын
Nothing special,
@classicalduck4 жыл бұрын
Say, do you suppose I could borrow that große Ratsche for a couple of days, say February 25-6 of next year? I want to drown out some names. 😆
@b1i2l3362 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with any of your choices. I especially love the Stokowski, but...no Szell, Böhm, Klemperer, Toscanini, or Krauss? Those have long been among my favorite Tills. Chacun à son goût! P.S. I am a HUGE fan of yours, just expressing my opinion here.
@DavesClassicalGuide2 жыл бұрын
Sure!
@garethwilliams976 Жыл бұрын
Wot! No Toscanini! Hard driven but gets the jokes.
@martinhochbaum89363 жыл бұрын
Dave: How do you feel about Francis-Xavier Roth's Richard Strauss recordings?
@DavesClassicalGuide3 жыл бұрын
Not impressed so far.
@martinhochbaum89363 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide Thanks...I completely agree, but I thought I might not have been appreciating what the the more glowing reviewers were getting from these cds...
@andrewnguyen12203 жыл бұрын
4:21 omg that’s not expected
@mordechaizalmon1863 жыл бұрын
David, this is a Purim rattle! ( better than Simon’s...)
@DavesClassicalGuide3 жыл бұрын
Of course--a "grogger."
@UlfilasNZ4 жыл бұрын
Intermezzo is funny (and never too long); maybe because he wrote the libretto himself?
@DavesClassicalGuide4 жыл бұрын
Very possibly!
@UlfilasNZ4 жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide I'd take it over Rosenkavalier...
@robertjones447 Жыл бұрын
Did Szell conduct more than one recording with Cleveland? I have an old 10" Columbia Masterworks record of it, poorly recorded, jaunty but nothing special, and on the drums, the snares not even engaged. Quite disappointing.
@DavesClassicalGuide Жыл бұрын
The snares are muffled on purpose, and so indicated in the score. They are imitating something darker and more funereal for the judgment scene.
@robertjones447 Жыл бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide Ah, thanks for the clarification. I'm glad Toscanini used snares, then - they heighten the tension.