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Replace Washing Machine Shut Off Valves On Polybutylene Pipes
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Күн бұрынIn this video we show you Replace Washing Machine Shut Off Valves On Polybutylene Pipes DIY. You might discover that your washing machine valves are leaking water or they are stuck and the only way is to cut the copper pipe or polybutylene pipe if you have this old gray banner piping material. Sometimes people mistake it for their washer leaking water but the most likely culprit is your washer water valve. In this video it is obvious there was a washer valve leak. we'll show you how to perform this water valve replacement.
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Washing machine water valve replacement is easy for DIY people
Either way we like to replace both hoses and the washer shut off valves at the same time. You should change your washing machine hoses with new stainless steel hoses every 5 years especially if you see a washer hose dripping water, you need to repair that before it bursts.
Washer valve replacement repair
Sometimes when you change your washing machine hoses you'll discover that now you have a washer valve leak, because these washer shut off valves stay open all year round, then you just closed it and re-opened it again, which awoke the sleeping giant that is your dried out degenerated gasket inside the washer valve.
Shut off valve repair for your washing machine water supply
Sometimes you'll even find your washer valve stuck and you can't get it to open or close. As part of this shut off valve repair, it doe snot matter if you have a washing machine shut off valve stuck or you have washing machine valves, we still remove them the same way. If your washer water valve is soldered to the copper pipe coming out of the wall, we use a torch to melt the solder and pull the water shutoff valve off the pipe. Soon you will no longer have any washer water valve leaking, and no washer hose dripping water either.
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@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
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@lonnyniejadlik3243 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@toolhead147 3 жыл бұрын
Always learning something new with Jeff, thanks for sharing!
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching tool head!
@specialK_hvac 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta use the Kroil penetrating oil. It just works. I was taught that shark bite type connectors were not approved for hidden installing such as behind drywall
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
They are allowed, many plumbers don't like them, and I do try to avoid using them behind a wall, but no choice in this case. That polybutylene piping will fail one day soon I am sure, it will fail before the Shark Bite does. In some cases it might be worth it to place an access panel on the drywall over your repair.
@teh60 3 жыл бұрын
Good fix Jeff. That PB pipe looks scary. Those ball valves are the best.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Even scarier than the Poly butylene pipe is the CPVC pipe which is actually very brittle and all you have to do is barely touch it in it cracks just look at our plumbing disaster video that we uploaded a couple of weeks ago where we showed that we were doing a repair on CPVC at our friends house and it cracked and we had to end up cutting into the wall in cementing in a repair pieces to get the system back up and running again but see PVC is an extremely dangerous and brittle pipe system, and plumbers all over Central Florida right now are making a fortune re-piping people’s houses
@timraber6575 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Ive been considering changing my shut off to quarter turn valves. My washer box is on an outside wall. I do replace those washer lines about every 5 years. I have had one to bust many years ago. Luckily, I was home when it failed. My water lines are copper.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we prefer the steel belted hoses.
@rodw 3 жыл бұрын
Dude ?? You must love that song you play over the work you are doing. but it should come with a DB warning !!!! Easily 5-10 times as loud as you talking. OUCH !!!! LMBO 🤩😁😄 If they outlawed the poly Bute(grey) line how come you didn't have to replace it all?? 2nd why the extra fittings one fitting from 1/2 female to poly Bute push to connect and done !!! You are so right about quarter turn shut off valve !!! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos. Rodney
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
LOL I gotta work those music volume levels better. I am switching to Adobe Premiere soon, and will be working that out as well. You only have to replace polybutylene if you are re-piping the whole house. At the time we bought this part, there was no SharkBite fitting that connected Polybutylene on one side with a threaded FIP on the other side to screw onto the the bottom of the shut off valves, so we had to do a double connector.
@1towgunner 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome glad to help out
@superduper6123 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy transition couplings for PB to PEX. Would be much better than sharkbites in the wall. I'd pull out as much PB as possible if you can get underneath this wall. I wouldn't replace with PVC (or CPVC).
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is, that this is not pex, it's copper to PB, this is in a condo building, so we are not allowed to do a lot to it.
@jamisonsdad1963 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. It would've taken no longer to use those connections. Never use sharkbites in a wall.Btw I would've run new pex if the floor had accessibility underneath. That PB will fail again at some point and time. ......
@AL_Lopez_101 3 жыл бұрын
Dry wall saw blade. Awsome!
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
I love my sonicrafter, it makes such a clean cut
@tracythompson1692 3 жыл бұрын
i find that repair necessary in my rental mobile homes quite often. I cut an access panel and use Quest shut off valves to cpvc lower and go to a pex stub upper to the new boiler drain type main shut offs. then just an oversized peice of sheetrock as an access panel.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sounds like you're on top of that one. Be careful with those CPVC pipes, they get very brittle after a few years, we just uploaded a video about that 2 weeks ago, disaster at our friend's house.
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@footlongburrito 3 жыл бұрын
You can use a pex to poly coupling and crimp it on, way better than sharkbite
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we'll look into that for next time
@WillieDWashington 2 жыл бұрын
Home Gepot!? 4:04
@knowledge1372 3 жыл бұрын
the shark bites are nice an ez used it the 1st time last year on my girlfriend dishwasher
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever possible try to sue it only in an area you have access to, like under a sink or an exposed shutoff valve. I had not choice in this video there is no other way to mate to Polybutylene plastic pipes.
@knowledge1372 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff it ran through the hole in the cabinets to the garbage disposal it was easy to do no issues
@lisac7386 Жыл бұрын
Couple things: when trying to repair a small leak in a polybutylene pipe, I created a much larger one down the line, by pulling and jostling it too much, so be careful about how you handing the PB that will be left in place. I ended up replacing all the polybutylene inside the walls with PEX. Also, as a DIY'er I have used SharkBites a lot because I've never been able to solder well. You do have to follow the instructions, especially regarding how far to insert the piping! And although they are removable, the really shouldn't be reused. They are code compliant in my former state for in the wall use.
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
CPVC is even worse about shattering
@Binkley-rj6gf 2 жыл бұрын
What did you use to cut the polybutylene pipe? I need to add some undersink shutoff valves to polybutylene pipes, and will be using Sharkbites.
@CLCinflorida 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, but it was Very disappointing that you left out the INSTALLATION OF THE OUTLET BOX... 😉👍👍
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry! We could not find some of the video that was shot. We had inferior video cameras back then, but have all new high end Nikon 4k Camera equipment now. But at 8:30 we showed the setup of the box, then the photo of it installed.
@CLCinflorida 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff Glad to hear you have new equipment, that's awesome... I did see the Box, then the Set up, but my pipes aren't lining up with the new Box, and I wanted to see the install to see if that's a normal problem, or did your line right up. I'm an old Lady doing it myself.. but I think I finally have it figured out, I just have to figure out how to get that Pipe I cut off the Drain Hole uncemented... I cut it flush, so now I can't add a Coupling... Thanks for the reply... 🤗♥️😊
@annacrooke6722 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff! I'm just now having trouble with my PB pipes behind my washing machine and I was wondering since I have 3/8in PB pipes, do I convert it to to 3/4? I see 3 pieces total you used for yours, what size do I need to convert it to, so that it screws into those new turn valves?
@john50628628 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, thanks for the video! I have PB pipe on my old mobile home. I need to replace the water heater, and what they had done was crimped a adjustable copper water heater feed to the end of the pipe. Could I technically just crimp a new one on there to replace it, or is that just not up to code.. or? Or just buy the coupling to connect to pvc then to the copper feed..? Thanks brother!
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. You could use a SharkBite like I did here in this video to convert to copper. So if you look at that first adapter that I used, the one that plugs directly onto the Gray Polybutylene pipe, that adapter on the other end you can insert copper pipe now you're back to normal piping again and you can do whatever you want sweat on an adapter that will connect up to your flexible hose on the water heater. Plumbers for the most part don't like to use shark bites especially if they're going to be inside of a wall where you can't see them if they leak. So those are the two considerations you have to balance here if you want to do it correctly you may have to bring in a knowledgeable plumber who knows the best ways to connect up to the Poly butylene.
@stevelamb687 3 жыл бұрын
If you put the threaded adapter through the box then put valve on you would never have to cut into drywall. That's what I always did back in my plumbing days.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
We'll take a look at that next time
@fhersagas 3 жыл бұрын
How much did this cost, labor only
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff It's been a month... I would Really Appreciate your thoughts / ideas on this suggestion. It seems that this could turn a ~3+ hour valve replacement job into a 5 minute job. I've talked to a plumber & many big box employees about doing this and they are dismissive or act like I'm an annoying noob for going against the traditional, time tested set up (similar to what you ended up with). The only drawbacks I can think of is that the valves will not be as secure (against the washer box, so might wiggle a bit). Or, the regular open/closing of the valve handle/wheel might torque stress the copper pipe (behind the drywall) at solder joints... increasing the chance of a leak ? PS - Thanks for your great videos !
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate Well I would like to see this done 1st to get an idea of exactly how it's supposed to work but just sticking a threaded adapter down into the Box how do you made it to the pipe? With most of the other washing machine boxes that I see they are embedded in the wall and the copper pipe inside the wall comes up and solders into the bottom of the valve. If you remove that valve and put something else in how then do you made it to the pipe in the wall? That's why I still think you would end up having a tear up the drywall.
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff This video shows the simple replacement set up that we're talking about, but not what it looks like under the box -- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5N3gJNivpuVhZs.html (No drywall cutting required) This is a pic I took at Lowe's of the parts I might need to do this -- imgur.com/a/QOrgZYn -- probably just solder it to my existing copper pipe about 2-3" below the box. But there's no screw-on type mechanism to rigidly secure it to the box :-( Any ideas ?
@gemtel54 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a big help, I have that polybutylene in my trailer, and it's a royal pain in the keester to work with got to have those shark bites!!
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and shark bites unfortunately open up a whole different Pandora's box they can leak also however they are more reliable than the Poly butylene so you're basically trading one evil for a little bit lesser evil. Anytime I do shark bites I try to make sure they are outside the wall And if I can avoid using the mall tickets absolutely necessary like in this case there really was no other solution to convert Poly butylene to the copper.
@richardwhite6288 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago you could use "Quest fittings" on grey PB pipe... But after 40 yrs of Plumbing,I would recommend removing ALL PB pipe...save yourself a future headache!
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
es it costs about $10k to re-pipe a house away from PB
@richardwhite6288 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff DIY, for less than 2000,pex A or B
@before120 Жыл бұрын
ok why is everyone's valve different from ours? The two, hot and cold, come up into the box, and its a red and blue directional valve. (not the ones you turn but flip sideways) how do you change that vale on the hot side out? help please?
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
We have had to did into the drywall a few times to cut and remove old valves
@Jugc0006 3 жыл бұрын
How reliable are shark bites? I should add how reliable are they for hot water heater. Hot line?
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Experts are divided about whether shark bites are reliable or not. I had not choice in this case, there is no other way to mate up to polybutylene pipe inside the wall. and the sharkbite is no more risky than the gray pipe itself. You can also place access panel on the wall where you installed a Sharkbite. I have used them only a few times and usually outside the wall for example when converting from Poly butylene pipes into copper so I can put a regular copper water shut off valve under the kitchen sink for example but there at least you can open cabinet and check on it to make sure there are no leaks. I would never put a sharkbite inside the wall. But I also use sharkbite caps all the time to temporarily cap off some of my copper pipes during remodeling that's OK because they're going to be removed and replaced with a real valve later.
@keith606 2 жыл бұрын
The hot water washer hose will not come off. Tried to loosen and tighten the hose to hopefully get some movement but it wouldn’t budge. In doing so, the whole valve assembly moved about an inch to the left and right a few times. It occurred to me that I was bending the copper tube below and behind the drywall. Should I be worried? Fill time for the washing machine didn’t change. Should I be worried? Is the copper pipe much stronger than I give it credit for?
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt you have copper tubing behind the wall what you have is copper pipe and I doubt that you have bent it. if you could not get your hot water hose to come off it was probably corroded on really bad usually what people do then is they try to use a Dremel and slice through these screw on sleeve part of the hose where it screws onto the valve they make a couple of slices across it and then just take it apart piece by piece
@keith606 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff I’ve decided to replace both hot and cold water valves with quarter turn valves. The valve in question started to leak a bit and it’s a no-brainer to replace both being that they are 27 years old. Thanks for your response!
@scuffedvegeta2756 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this done with copper pipe though.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
One day hopefully get a chance to do one with coppper
@scuffedvegeta2756 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff Have you used Auqa Lock? I'm gonna grab those to save some soldering work.
@scuffedvegeta2756 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else catch the shoe print on the back end of the sheet rock at 5:13? lol
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Would not surprise me!
@user-eh8tg7fc6x 3 жыл бұрын
12:25 the worthy part starts
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
It's all worthy! LOL!
@user-eh8tg7fc6x 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff hahahaha just joking mate😄
@lisarynaiwomac8898 2 жыл бұрын
You can use a torch to heat it up to remove it or you have a brass adjustment nut on the stem just turn it a little till it stops leaking making sure the water is on first yes on. When the leak stops you're done 😂 you're welcome.
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! but does it work on plastic polybutylene? I would be afraid to use heat because of dangerous fumes
@lisarynaiwomac8898 2 жыл бұрын
No galvanized only
@everythinghomerepair1747 3 жыл бұрын
how old is the pipe in the video?
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
I believe this building was built in 1988
@wandameadows5736 2 жыл бұрын
Better make sure you do a depth mark on the pipe to make sure you've pushed it into the SharkBite far enough.
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we use the orange depth gauge
@zztop8592 2 жыл бұрын
Those quarter turn valves are junk too. One of my valves stopped working and had to replace the whole thing.
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a 1/4 turn valve fail. Maybe you just got a bum valve
@zztop8592 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff I think it became corroded with deposits and froze up.
@Bonegrit 3 жыл бұрын
Pex to Polybutylene pipe shark bite makes them and the tool thats what I use on my mobile Home new pex pipe then use the special fitting all done.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Wish we could have done that here, it was in a multistory condo, with poly pipe all over.
@rickjames6948 3 жыл бұрын
Sharkbite fittings in enclosed walls is a no-no. They use a cheap rubber o-ring for a water seal. Chlorinated city water will eat that o-ring in no time.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
In this case sharkbite fittings inside the wall is more reliable than the now banned since 1995 Poly butylene piping which is a guaranteed ticking time bomb. Choose your poison on this one.
@jacksplumbingvideos7147 3 жыл бұрын
who's stupid idea was it to use this pipe?
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Could have been good but they just never life tested it for chlorine
@OnRappel 3 жыл бұрын
you NEVER showed the finished product.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
It is shown at 11:00, just without the drywall patched up.
@caonguyentinhxanh6676 3 жыл бұрын
My washer is leaked. Do you know why?
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm the washer? Are you sure the leak is inside, or is it water running down from the hose?
@peterboissiere9684 3 жыл бұрын
It's called cpvc.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you saw me correct it on the video
@KeeLLuR 3 жыл бұрын
Did you really need two shark bite fittings? and not just a female cpvc fitting with a stub, and one shark bite?
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
We don't use CPVC, but now, Sharkbite has a better part, that converts polybutylene to copper, eliminating the need for a second coupler.
@rickjames6948 3 жыл бұрын
Show us the entire home flood video. Please include all the mold your children will be breathing in too.
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
This property was not flooded. But here is a video to a property that was flooded. "How Polybutylene Piping (Grey Pipes) Caused Plumbing Leaks, Mold Inside Wall" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e6uBgtOluZ6wZp8.html
@gfysyoutube Жыл бұрын
You showed nothing!
@konamanstudio2447 3 жыл бұрын
🍻🍺👍
@jeffostroff 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@zelezele8388 2 жыл бұрын
Instead you rxplain indetail you added classic song unnecessary
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
huh? statement makes zero sense
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