To be fair on TNG a replicator told Deanna Troi off for ordering a chocolate cake.

1:14 that WTF on his face

“My chicken sandwich and coffee. This is my chicken sandwich and coffee.”

I still laugh at the Q affected replicator telling Janeway to make her own coffee.

Seriously guys, replicators didn't appear in Star Trek until TNG. The things in TOS are just some kind of automated food dispenser like an automat.

1:08 Discovery in a nutshell.

Even ENT had a kitchen and cook. It was a running joke that we never saw him. We shall not talk about the final ENT episode. ENT had a lot of flaws. They even pushed the envelope with continuity. However I at least bought the fact that they came before TOS. STD is a dumpster fire.

Cool, that blonde with the cards in original Trek clip was Lwaxana Troi in TNG. She was also Mrs. Gene Roddenberry for real. Sadly she passed in 2008. R.I.P. queen of Trek

My theory: When food synthesisers first began to be installed in starships, many people struggled to adjust to having unlimited amounts of every conceivable food suddenly available to them at all times. As a result, nutritional balance and obesity became a problem. To control this Starfleet first experimented with having the replicators directly control what people could have, but this antagonised users, so they then tried a system of issuing ration cards. Presumably by the TNG era people had become completely used to having replicated food available so it was no longer a problem. The crew of Voyager were simply mistaken in thinking replicators weren't yet widespread in Kirk's time.

It seems as though nearly all the continuity problems would have been solved by setting Discovery after TNG.

Does Discovery need canon? Klutzman replies: No, Discovery doesn't need cannons. Thus Star Trek Discovery was born, with a total lack of any Star Trek canon.

why do they need the computers talking for every task?

Imagine being told by a computer you can't have a double latte... 99.99% there would be a "black market" from day one. People who don't like sweets/ coffee/ alcohol would sell or exchange them.

2:58 What my brain sounds like during a diet.

"Is this coconut or vanilla?" "Oh sweety, don't be sad! There are a lot of good surprises and bad surprises!"

The food replicator announcing your meal every time would get old fast. On Voyager I always took Kims' line to mean they couldn't copy items but still had food synthesizers.

I think it works if the DIS food synths can only do food and dishes, and if the uniform replicator can only do uniforms. I don’t know if they were shown or mentioned as capable of other things. I think that fits with the ENT synthesizers. As for the food cartridges, I think it works if we assume the food gets vastly more chemically complicated by TOS, requiring a switch to physical media. Or, everyone can carry around their favorite version of a dish in order to avoid the base dishes. The tribbles also indicate the food stations hold stock material which is contrary to statements about replicators being energy to matter devices, which fits with the VOY statement by Kim about no replicators in the past.

I know you're all angry, but this is making me hungry.

At least part of this can be explained by a different understanding of technology in the 60s versus today. Predictions that seemed advanced then are seen as quaint or even the wrong solution today.

Wow, an experimental ship will not have a voice command rather than flavor "cards"?

TOS takes place AFTER Discover, which is also after Star Fleet disabled, fleet wide, the highly advanced, "AI" systems that had been in place prior to Control needing to be fought. Which took Star Fleet ships from highly interconnected systems to being small memory units that required data cards with limited capacities to be swapped in an out. Thus, preserving canon.

The boy who didn't like his WHITE ice cream must be a time traveler from 2020.

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In Enterprise shuttlepod one there's a scene in the shuttle where they take like a food ration pack meal and put it in this like microwave slot then it heats the food and then they open it and eat it.

If this was possible, ships would just instantly repair themselves. You don't need to make tools or anything, just instantly create objects where they belong.

3:04 when you have Flint Lockwood design your replicators

Love the white and gold outfit the kid on the left is wearing at 00:36

I think the easiest way to reconcile it is to treat the food synthesizers and the uniform thing as fancy 3D printers, where they still need materials loaded up for everything used to make them and it can only do specific preprogrammed recipes. By contrast replicators can just make whatever and the computer can adjust recipes on the fly in various ways.

3:14 my head cannon, Kim knows nothing and this is why he is an Ensign

Also in Star Trek: Short Stories, Calypso, the computer replicates the clothes to fit him better.

It's been said that Discovery is in a different timeline or universe than TOS and TNG and if you go by the technical manuals for the original Enterprise NCC 1701 you will see that they have something like food storage, dispensers, and protein resequencers which is what the cubes of food were. I still wonder how many high rank officers used to override the nutritional guidelines for the replicators on TNG, that bad part of the Discovery replicators is they used to say the calories of the food, which is bad if you are ordering a slice of Cheesecake or something high in calories.

What's wrong with coconut and vanilla together? I've never tried the combination before but I've tasted each separately and my mind can't simulate the blend unpleasantly.

Yo god damn my girl Chapel going savage af telling that kid life sucks, deal with it.

as a point tas is only considered soft canon (as it is animations of beta canon stories) thus if any star trek live action series contradicts it then the live action series is considered to be correct in canon (this rule also applied to star trek online up until the release of star trek Picard)

Where are the bits with the readhead from that isn't getting her food? I really can't place it.

The Red Dude from the cartoon always on The Bridge

Wait....isn't that Archer the super spy at 0:23? Or aka John Benjamin has a van or something?

Before voice command, there was cards or keypads.

One of my favorite replicator uses was as a storage device and video game Star Trek Voyager elite Force One and two

I want to locate and raid a kitchen somewhere

FISH! Today's fish is trout a la créme. Enjoy your meal. FISH! Today's fish is trout a la créme. Enjoy your meal. FISH! Today's fish is trout a la créme. Enjoy your meal. FISH! Today's fish is trout a la créme. Enjoy your meal. FISH! Today's fish is trout a la créme. Enjoy your meal. I will.

Re-uploaded?

Further proof that Discovery takes place in an alternate universe from the pre 2017 shows and movies.

The standing around and displaying pointless tech to fill time really bothers me. It's not even supposed to be more advanced than the original. I get it, the original tech is goofy, but they can still simplify theirs or not focus on it at all. But that would require actually interesting dialogue and plot.

Not sure why discovery is putting focus on the computer speaking. Literally never needed to do it in the past. Like the uniform for instance, the tray opening would be more than enough to inform us it was finished. Why the hell did we need "uniform synthesis complete"?!

The replicators are like US food

To be fair..... In TOS they were not replicators. They explained that the card would just bring it up from the kitchen.

Discovery happens like 200 years after TOS

I forgot season 1 Tilly wasn't fat.

Food synthesizers were easier than matter replicatiors

In Enterprise, don't they have basic food synthesizers? (I think at least the Vulcans [or Vulcanians if you're a real Trekker] did, which would've been shared after the formation of the Federation) And, given the canonical information that states that the Enterprise is an older ship, it's evident that it's running older technology than the newer ships like the Discovery. If we choose to pursue that well-respected tradition of fan-speculation, it's not unreasonable to suggest that the power systems might not be able to accommodate the standard uniform fabricators and food synthesizers. The Discovery and Cabot are decades newer than the Starship-class Enterprise, and would therefore have updated tech. Additionally, Janeway said they didn't have replicators, which could simply mean the transition from food synthesizer to a replicator was just that much of an improvement in the flavor and texture fidelity. Who knows, it may have been like the transition from holo-projectors (STE/ENT, STT/TAS, STD/DSC) to holodecks (STT/TNG, STV/VOY, STD/DS9), and happened shortly before The Next Generation. I get this channel's whole shtick is mocking Discovery for any and all perceived violations of the holy and always coherent whole of prior Star Treks, but this, like several other videos, is flagrant in its disregard of other instances of continuity and reasonable assumptions.

I'd like a big juicy burger with melted cheese and crispy bacon on it, make it hot. Make it 2 of those. Thanks.

There's plenty of things on Discovery to complain about, but IMO, using floppy disks to order food would've been really goofy in a 2010s tv show, especially now that we have Siri and Alexa IRL. Of course, the magic mushroom drive and the holograms are fair game

Do chefs still exist?

they put money in cgi the process of how they make clothes in discovery....well it they arent in the John Wick Dog shit use of cg but tv shows and movies are getting even closer.

I personally think all Discovery's problems are easily solved by putting Discovery oh I dunno, after Nemesis (and not being super progressive and having better writers). Uniforms would need some slight change and maybe some other designs but other than that discovery would actually work technologically and would fit snug in the timeline.

2:20 which movie is it

Theory to reconcile DISCO and TOS: 23rd century food synthesizers have two options, you could speak to the computer and select a predetermined menu item, or you could create your own personal recipes and keep them on “flavour cards”. DISCO and TAS mainly used voice menu selections but TOS preferred to use personal cards.

The frequent continuity errors aren't even the biggest reason why I'll be deep in the cold cold ground before I acknowledge Discovery as canon.

In the same way holographic communications were ripped out of the Enterprise at the end of season 2 Discovery, maybe the replicators were taken off the main computer grid to prevent a Control-like AI cooking up all sorts of nasties in them.

Look how technology’s advancing now. No way we have punch card shit in the 2260s in addition to starships. Y’all seriously calm down.

Star Trek Discovery in not cannon, and is total shit.

The Discovery writers never had any care for the franchise.

Not all of them are Replicators though ...

3:12 Bruh first that dum dum thinks a 1936 car is a hovercar now thinks that Entreprise crew didnt have replicators.

I love Ensign Tilly's "you're dead to me" look 😍

#RestoreTheSnyderVerse

Would someone explain tng and tos to me

This seems to be more of a TOS had no continuity with itself on how food worked so needs to be ignored situation. (With the exception of the Kim and Janeway conversation. That is a legit plot hole for Discovery)

I am gonna remind you that discovery is a much newer ship than enterprise.

So the special effects got better. That's not a continuity contradiction.

The Original Series is the best. It's so simple.

TOS had food dispensers not food replicators, the food dispensers were advanced dumb waiters. There's even a scene where Kirk was ordering the chef over the ship's intercom to make mock turkey for a holiday. The food synthesizers were in the kitchen with TOS and only made ingredients for the chef to prepare. Now in TOS, there was a scene where chicken soup was served from one of three food dispensers in a transporter room although there was no counter or table to eat at in the transporter room. Though, I'm sure nothing was intended by showing food dispensers in the transporter room, the rationalization of low quality transporter technology being used by the food dispensers and the three dispensers being for diagnostics by the transporter technicians would explain the existence of the dispensers in the transporter room. Note there was only one transporter room scene which showed food dispensers in TOS. Also, the food dispensers in TOS were shown in the mess hall/rec area except for the one transporter room scene. If we look at what was happening during the 1960's, it would be reasonable to assume that the food dispensers were like the automats common during the 50's and 60's and on the other side of that wall was a room of attendants filling the dispensers with the ordered food that had been delivered from the kitchen. Even if they had food dispensers in low traffic areas, there would still be non-transporter methods such as the advanced vending machines that we see in Japan, the food could still be just delivered in bulk from the kitchen. We didn't see anything about food replicators till TNG and everything in TOS not only shows the concept had not occurred to the writers but that there was kitchens and the food was just somehow delivered to those food dispensers by people and or technology. We did hear about food synthesizers in TOS presumably to make ingredients to prepare and Enterprise introduced us to protein sequencers/synthesizers, it wasn't till Discovery and Strange New Worlds that the writers broke the lore.

The thing at 0:10 is not a replicator.

Me looking at the 2020 presidential ballot, "But they're both white." "Well that was your unpleasant surprise."

Cool

So you're saying Discovery continuity is rubbish because they haven't dumbed themselves DOWN to the low budget effects of a 1960s TV show?! It would look laughable if they did that. You'll be complaining that Discovery's captain isn't writing on a electronic clipboard 12 inches thick next. Get a grip people we have iPads now and it's only 2020.

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Get over it...

The only contractions are with that abortion of a show discovery where they didn't even try to stay true to Trek.

For a modern series promoting diversity i sure see a lot of similar looking humans in nutrek

It's done by replicating and then 3D Printing the products D.N.A. today we are already able to replicate Human Skin Tissue and some human organs as well as Human Ears on a 3D Printer machines as well as such complicated metal things as whole rocket engines and engine parts in fact we even now almost replicate anything on a 3D Printer machine.

discovery is trying to erase T.o.s from the timeline. In previous iterations of Star Trek, Spock had never mentioned a sister.

The Discovery is a leap ahead in technology, compared to the Enterprise and other ships of that period. It's got the latest in technology that will eventually be added to the rest of the Starfleet but it's, scuse the pun, The Next Generation in technology. The Enterprise is CRT and the Discovery is LCD...

even the animated series seems bearable by comparison to STD and STP and Sh*t-Treks

Discovery is not canon. Simple

Discovery isn't set in the Prime timeline, it is in its own timeline, thus it cannot contradict TOS.

Who cares. TOS is too old

Food slots... Synthesizers resequensers are not replicators

Discovery was Garbage. May one day we see another Trek that is actually made by fans.

I'm not watching that STD garbage.