A DIY approach to using the Arylic Up2Stream Amp

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The Arylic DIY amp has a ton of features for building your own audio project. But most of these features are accessed via a mobile app that you must install. The purpose of this video is to investigate what can be done with the amp, and what advanced features might be available, without ever installing the mobile app.
Chapter Links
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00:00 Intro
00:59 What I won't be reviewing
02:20 Unboxing and high level overview
03:36 Broken power button and repair
06:12 Overview of ports and interfaces
08:34 Pinout details
10:05 Specifications overview
10:43 Power supply and speakers used
11:25 Ethernet Network onboarding
12:37 Default web interface options
13:43 Wifi onboarding with the API
16:40 Device control testing via the API
20:33 Home Assistant and playing from a NAS
21:55 Other local options and requirements
23:28 Local display
24:16 Local button control
25:23 Extending the LED mode indicator
25:54 Other future possibilities
27:11 Your thoughts and wrap-up
Parts Shown/Used:
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Arylic Up2Stream Amp 2.0 (v4): amzn.to/3j8CjrF
24V 6A Power Supply: amzn.to/3uUQSS9
OLED Display: amzn.to/3PwkSgI
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Resistor Kit: amzn.to/3HGQz5c
1 uF Capacitor: amzn.to/3uSTrnF
Common anode RGB LED: amzn.to/3j9oLff
ESP32 Mini: amzn.to/3uVjI4X
44 Key IR Remote: amzn.to/3FWqwp9
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@BELSERVICEMAN Жыл бұрын

Just last minute comments. To clarify, I only used the app once really just to connect to WiFi the lazy way. It is worth mentioning that you said “Old Speakers “! This not so expensive Chinese board brings life to mine and saved me money. Last I confess, I don’t own google devices and I was desperately looking for a way to use Music Assistant but it wouldn’t work with Alexa devices. Short story is I have been using Home Assistant for 7 months and I have this running so well for my needs. Yes me of only 7 months in and I have it integrated using Zigbee button to control the features that Steve hard wired here. So if your aren’t comfortable with breadboard etc there are options for us…folks that look for the convenient way. Another excellent and detailed video by ResinChem Tech!

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment... and clarifying the the amp can be used in other ways without all the complicate "breadboarding" and external components. If there is interest, I can do a follow up video and go into a little more detail regarding other control options, such as Home Assistant automations where control can be through other devices, like your Zigbee button, MQTT, etc. This video definitely doesn't cover all the possible options!

@giggadan Жыл бұрын

Ive setup 3 of these for a client with a dual zone audio system and portable transmitter. Using home assistant and linkplay you can get a lot of the features you’re looking for and combining that with the dlna player can give you %90 off the control you’re wanting.

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

Yeah... as I've played with it some more, I've discovered a lot of those things. But is still hasn't stopped me from adding local pushbuttons, a rotary volume knob, OLED display, an ESP32 so that MQTT can be used to control the amp, my own IR receiver and remote and extending the IR... in prep for putting it all in an enclosure for a nice little self-contained package. Not because I needed to do it to get use the features... it was more for the enjoyment of just seeing if I could make it all work! I may or may not do a follow up video on these things... as you said, most of that can be done with other methods, but I do like that I have the local push buttons and volume knob right on the box in front of me when playing music without needing to find a remote or go to a web site or app. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.

@Kero_Kii 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this! Thanks to you my very first coding project/amp project was a great success! I've been trying to refurbish a broken 1958 philips tube radio for a while now and your documentation helped me retain the old functionality with new hardware. It took a great deal of trial and error (and shamefully one fried esp32) but the old 60+ year old buttons now tell the arylic amp what to do via UART. without your thorough explanation here and on the blog, I wouldn't even have dared starting this project. Thank you so much!

@ResinChemTech 6 ай бұрын

Congrats! It is pretty amazing some of the things you can do with an ESP and a little Arduino code. I think it would be really cool to put something like an Arylic amp inside an old classic radio like you did. I absolutely love my little DIY amp and it gets used daily. In fact, I picked up a second amp on sale for Black Friday and am in the planning stages of designing v2.0 of the amp. I'm so glad my video helped out a bit. Thanks for watching and taking the time to post a comment. Oh, don't worry about frying that ESP32... we've all been there!

@ResinChemTech 6 ай бұрын

Follow up question: Do you happen to have any photos/videos/documentation on your project? I'm just starting on the planning for a video of viewers who took my original projects and adapted it to other uses or improved on my original version. With your permission of course, I'd like to maybe show what you did with the amp and the old Philips radio. If you have any links, you can reply here but note that KZfaq blocks any links in the comments by default. I'll still get it in a "blocked comments" list, but it won't show up here in the main thread. Alternatively, you can email me any links, photos, info etc. via the email address you can find on the 'About' page of my channel. If you'd prefer that I not include your project in my future video, that is perfectly fine as well... but thought I'd ask!

@Kero_Kii 6 ай бұрын

@@ResinChemTech i shall send it to you by email tomorrow! I havent kept a very detailed log about what i did but i shall send you what I have. Since i only used your code as a guide for my code, do you want a copy of that as well?

@ResinChemTech 6 ай бұрын

Thanks... I don't think I need the code. I'm really just looking for maybe some photos or something where I can show a brief highlight of how you took the amp and used it in an old radio. So mostly photos and/or any brief videos that might have that show the finished radio/project and maybe how you integrated or used the amp as part of the project. Thanks again.. I'll keep an eye out for the email.

@artursilva7635 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for Your videos...

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

You are most welcome! I hope you find them to be informative and helpful in your own projects. Thanks for watching and taking time to post a comment.

@rupash88 Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, I'm glad I found your channel, you have a lot of awesome projects working with ARGB leds plus ESP32, 2x things that I never get bored off but still at the learning stages. I was wondering if you have come across the LILYGO TTGO T-Display ESP32 basically an esp32 with a built in LCD. I was wondering if you could do a project with ARGB led and the ESP32 Display, using the screen to display the output colors/effects and the onboard buttons to select those colors/effects. I am wanting to build a ITX computer case with a little display with ARGB with this ability. I haven't seen anything like this on KZfaq and I think I would bring a lot of interest to your channel also. Keep up the good work.

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea and recommendation. With this particular video on the amp, I now do have a small OLED display working to show different information regarding the amp (e.g. the source, volume, balance, etc.) and local pushbuttons for control. For most of my LED projects, I use firmware called WLED. While it has native support for local pushbuttons, it does not natively support a display. There are a number of ways to approach adding a display... through a modification of the WLED firmware... through the use of a second microcontroller to read/display WLED info (probably the easiest way) or by writing completely separate firmware that controls the LEDs, allows buttons and supports a display. This last option is certainly feasible, but would probably not offer the 100+ different LED effects. But it is an interesting idea and can certainly consider developing something and making a KZfaq video on the process. Just not sure when I'll have an opportunity... but I do appreciate the great suggestion! Thanks!

@zsoltsza6 Жыл бұрын

Hi! Thanks for the video. I find it very useful. Based on your video, I'm trying to reproduce the local buttons for my project, but I do not really understand the circuit diagram. Could you possibly explain which pins on the pin header were used and how the whole thing was wired? Is there a way to use a volume knob instead of the volume + and - buttons? I'm also interested in the follow up video. I hope you'll have a chance to make it. :)

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

I have published the follow up video and I think it will answer your questions. Also note that I do use a volume knob instead of buttons in the follow up video. And if you check that video's description, you will see a link to a written version of the project that has all the wiring diagrams that I used. Here is where you can find that follow up video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mKtjjNR-3NyUg30.html If after watching the follow up and looking at the written article you still have some questions, please don't hesitate to reach back out.

@Smoothy0911 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks for this very interesting video. I find this board very interesting and could imagine using it to build a multiroom audio system. But I would be very interested to know, if it could in any way also be used for voice control in Home Assistant. When you showed the 2 MIC inputs, my thoughts immediately went towards Home Assistant voice control.... :), but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be possible that way. What makes me positive is your idea of adding an ESP32 to it to expand the functionality. A Raspberry Pi (e.g. Zero 2 W) should probably also be possible for even more possibilities for . Have you perhaps already pursued this idea? Or how would you assess the possibilities in this regard? Thanks.

@ResinChemTech 5 ай бұрын

I love mine... in fact I recently did a video that showed how others expanded upon or improved my build. I bought a second board on Black Friday when they were on sale and am in the initial planning stages of building version 2.0... with some major improvements over the original. I think I mentioned it in one of the 3 videos I did on the amp, but the amps do support multi-room sync between boards. I haven't messed with it (yet) as I only had a single board up until now. As far as HA and voice... the amp can act as a media player in Home Assistant, so you can output voice notifications to it. But even with a mic attached, the board's firmware itself would have no way to process those commands (e.g. recognize wake word, convert speech to text, etc.). You would need something else, like a Pi/ESP etc., to handle the voice input. But since the ESP32 I am using is just sending out UART commands to the amp, a Pi or other board should be able to do the same thing. It's not something I've really looked into... yet. Currently, we have multiple Google speakers and devices around the house for voice interaction with Home Assistant. I'm in a bit of a holding pattern on the local Home Assistant voice until it matures a bit more.

@Smoothy0911 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the quick reply. In the meantime I found another of your video and marked it for later. Yes, I mentioned the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W precisely because of all these services required for interaction with HA. Since Assist satellites have already been successful builted and tested with Pi Zero, I think it could be the right way.... The Pi would then take over the voice control and the audio board takes over the voice output of HA as well as any audio streaming. It's just not entirely clear to me yet whether and how the two boards would then work together.... For example, during HA's voice output any played music would have to be "muted" and I'm currently thinking about that. No idea if this is possible, if the audio board will be muted by the Pi satellite or if this have to be done by HA... Many questions.... Since the whole topic of voice control in HA is actually still quite new and growing, it might not be so wrong to wait a little longer until it is more mature. On the other hand, such an open source project also lives from the attempts and missteps of the many pioneers of the Home Assistant community and also drives development and maturation of it. It's crazy to see the development curve that HA leaves behind and is still growing strongly. I feel that I have to continue to follow your projects here and that there will surely be comming something more on this topic 😉

@MrChrisb2061 Жыл бұрын

I have 6 of these boards that I am no longer using. They were great until an over the air firmware update caused the multiroom feature to no longer sync music between boards. I reached out to support but they were no help. Since that time I swapped my up2stream amps for raspberry pi zero's with hifiberry amps and some open source software.

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

Just having my first board, I've not tried anything with syncing. But I will say that trying to find any current "official" developer documentation has been a challenge (despite selling this board as a DIY version). I've interfaced an ESP32 with the amp via the UART port and while I'm able to control a lot of features and get a lot of info from the amp, I'm finding that what documentation I do have is incomplete and in some cases outdated. It's a shame there isn't better support for these boards from Arylic. They appear to be feature-rich with a lot of potential (and pretty good sound as far as I can tell). But I guess one of the reasons that I wanted to do everything "locally" without their app was so no firmware updates could be forced upon me (I don't know if the firmware auto-updates with the app or not, since I've never installed it). I appreciate you sharing your experience... and it will make me think very carefully about doing any manual firmware updates down the road.

@BELSERVICEMAN Жыл бұрын

Wow 6 boards! I was wondering were you using the app for multiroom features as I have my 2 amps in a group in Home Assistant to combine the rooms and it works pretty well. Maybe is should have asked if you were using Home Assistant.

@MrChrisb2061 Жыл бұрын

@@BELSERVICEMAN I used both the 4stream app and home assistant for syncing. The syncing worked well until it didn't after the OTA update.

@BELSERVICEMAN Жыл бұрын

@@MrChrisb2061 Hey thanks for the reply! So I use Music Assistant and I can do things that cause mine to go out of synch so there is a huge delay between playback. It is easy to fix and I figured this is partly my own doing. Now I only have a group of two from the kitchen (amp1) I pass through a breezeway to my workshop/garage (amp2) and if I stand in the middle they are impressive as far as timing. Not sure if you had a timing problem or they were falling out of groups. Happy to hear what you have to say, good or bad. Thanks again!

@drdisko Жыл бұрын

I've built several speaker systems with the Arylic boards and they are have great sound and are reliable. The question you had about version4 versus 2.0 is the 2.0 means it is a two channel and a 2.1 is a two channel plus a subwoofer channel. They also make a non-amp board that has most features of the amp board that I use to hack Wifi into older equipment. Interested to see how you much further you take the exploration

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

Ah... thanks for the clarification on the 2.0! That was a bit confusing when trying to find current documentation. Just as an FYI, since I recorded this, I now have the amp interfaced to an ESP32 via UART... and therefore can issue MQTT commands to both control the amp and get status updates. And the OLED display is also interfaced to the ESP32 and shows data received from the amp UART (e.g. current source, volume, etc.). I'm still waiting on a rotary encoder which I believe I can connected to the amp to provide a local volume knob (instead of two push buttons). Then I'll need to create some sort of enclosure for the whole thing. To be honest, I'm pretty impressed with the amp, despite being skeptical about it at the beginning. If there is enough interest, I'll probably do a follow up video showing the additional various features I've been able to use (like the ESP interface, OLED display, MQTT control, etc.). Thanks for taking the time to watch... and clearing up the version numbers!

@RinyVT Жыл бұрын

@@ResinChemTech Definitely interested in a follow up with the Esp32! I have the 2.1 amp laying around and already have some ideas on how to use it but I'm curious what's possible!

@EvanWasHere Жыл бұрын

@@ResinChemTech please make that follow up video!

@ResinChemTech Жыл бұрын

I'm currently working on the code for the ESP32.... pretty amazing some of the stuff you can do via UART... and by extension with MQTT once I'm done.... all the normal things like selecting source, setting volume, etc. but other things like setting bass, treble, pregain, enabling/disabling key beeps, voice prompts, LED, etc. The idea (or goal) is that once I'm done, you'll be able to setup a dashboard in Home Assistant that will pretty much give full control over the amp features (or use any of the MQTT topics via automation). It's probably going to take me a while to get everything written, then fully tested, uploaded to Github with a corresponding blog article on the wiring, etc. So, I'd ask for a bit of patience, but I'll try to get something made and posted as soon as I feel I have something ready to share! Thanks for your interest!

@EvanWasHere Жыл бұрын

@@ResinChemTech Have you tried it with Music Assistant in HA?

@Kero_Kii 9 ай бұрын

how would one go about programming in the 4 other buttons for local control?

@ResinChemTech 9 ай бұрын

The ADC key pin is used along with different resistor values connected to the buttons to program what button does. This is covered in the video at 24:17. I also cover it a bit more in the follow up video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mKtjjNR-3NyUg30.html Finally, the written version of this project contains even more detail on how you can add pushbuttons to the amp for local control: resinchemtech.blogspot.com/2022/12/arylic-amp-mqtt.html The written version has step-by-step instructions and describes button additions in full detail.

@Kero_Kii 9 ай бұрын

@@ResinChemTech Thanks so much for your reply. I ment the 18k, 21k 47k and 100k resistor values for the buttons. they are unspecified in the manual as to what they do and i was wondering what they did and if i could program what they did in a way. The follow up vid and the written version are very helpful! Im trying to modernise a broken vintage radio and your explanations/videos make it so much easyer.

@ResinChemTech 9 ай бұрын

Sorry if I misunderstood your original question. Finding the documentation for the amp was a bit of a challenge and I had to pull it together from various sources and locations. But that written guide does have a pretty good image of the documentation on what resistor values correspond to the different button functions. You may or may not need it, but if get to the point where you want to use UART and/or MQTT commands, I should also mention that I have a Github repo with all the code I used, but the wiki contains some additional useful information that might be helpful: github.com/Resinchem/Arylic-Amp-MQTT/wiki Don't hesitate to ask if you have any additional questions... and good luck with your project. Let me know how it turns out.

@Lennard222 3 ай бұрын

Did you by chance figure out how to hook up a rotary encoder?

@ResinChemTech 3 ай бұрын

Yeah... and a lot more. You can see the rotary encoder and more in my follow-up video to the amp board: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mKtjjNR-3NyUg30.html There is also a written version of the project, with wiring diagrams and more info here: resinchemtech.blogspot.com/2022/12/arylic-amp-mqtt.html