Respected Writers Who Were Actually Terrible People

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Grunge

Grunge

Күн бұрын

Have you ever read a book and wondered how could the author think of such a fascinating and inspiring world filled with messages of hope? They must be great human beings with lots of humanity. But writers are known to be a quirky bunch and it’s best to remember that at the end of the day, they are human just like you and me. Great writers of the past like Ernest Hemingway and J.D. Salinger were said to be enigmatic characters in real life, but also displayed shady sides to their characters. It’s why we’ve made a video of respected writers who were actually terrible people. Did one of your favorite writers make our list?
#Writers #Famous #Terrible
Hunter S. Thompson, first-class jerk | 0:00
George Orwell sold out other writers | 1:44
Ernest Hemingway, KGB spy | 2:53
J.D. Salinger, total creep | 4:14
Jack London, horrible racist | 5:29
Roald Dahl, anti-Semitic jerk | 6:49
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@GrungeHQ
@GrungeHQ 6 жыл бұрын
Which of these writers shocked you with their antics?
@TheKing60210
@TheKing60210 6 жыл бұрын
Grunge I thought JD was a savior lol...
@erickthompson7815
@erickthompson7815 6 жыл бұрын
Hemingway was a badass
@Gripen1974
@Gripen1974 6 жыл бұрын
I got some other which should be on the list, HP Lovecraft, Rudyard Kipling, Ayan Rand, Robert A. Heinlein and Walter Scott. Scott for being antisemite Lovecraft and Kipling for being xenophobic assholes in general, Ayan Rand for being a selfish bitch and Heinlein for being an authoritarian militaristic asshole and borderline fascist.
@hiko73
@hiko73 6 жыл бұрын
None shocked me; old, rich, famous, white, people (mostly men) behaving atrociously? Not shocked at all :)
@RuudJH
@RuudJH 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of 'supposedly's and allegedly's and rumours and pc madness in this clip.
@TeatroGrotesco
@TeatroGrotesco 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like Hemingway was trolling the KGB, wasting their time and giving them nothing.
@TheGroundedAviator
@TheGroundedAviator 6 жыл бұрын
Sort of fun guy he was... probably gave useless info about them too the FBI as well!
@terilefevers6189
@terilefevers6189 6 жыл бұрын
Teatro Grottesco I thought the same thing.
@kostajovanovic3711
@kostajovanovic3711 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, good... I thought I was missing something here.
@NaNa-bt1wd
@NaNa-bt1wd 6 жыл бұрын
Teatro Grottesco doubt it
@jennyzarate7086
@jennyzarate7086 3 жыл бұрын
In México we actually eat grasshoppers, so it makes perfect sense that Roald would write that and there's no need to take it as something offensive.
@SensitiveShellCollector
@SensitiveShellCollector 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t think hunter s thompson was living in the same reality as the rest of us.
@darwinxke2827
@darwinxke2827 Жыл бұрын
So what’s your point?
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 3 ай бұрын
Hey Kev.
@gtr.4538
@gtr.4538 Жыл бұрын
Jack London, was not racist. Many of London's short stories are noted for their empathetic portrayal of Mexican, Asian, and Hawaiian characters. In her Russo-Japanese War correspondence, as well as her unfinished novel "Cherry", she shows great admiration for Japanese customs and capabilities.
@ramblingnutcase
@ramblingnutcase Жыл бұрын
"I am first of all a white man, and only then a socialist." -Jack London
@pikachus5m166
@pikachus5m166 10 ай бұрын
Unparalleled Invasion inspired Japans Unit 731, and later the US biowarfare offensives in Korea. And should it transpire SarsCov2 is American in origin, then the greatest warcrime in history.
@lvgenivs2319
@lvgenivs2319 10 ай бұрын
@@ramblingnutcase Extremely based, I agree
@joanlynch5271
@joanlynch5271 Ай бұрын
John's nanny and probably more of a mother than his real mother was a black woman.
@cottonrabbit1685
@cottonrabbit1685 Ай бұрын
Except when it's black😊
@TheLobstersoup
@TheLobstersoup 6 жыл бұрын
It can be argued that good writers have one thing in common: they hate humanity.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 6 жыл бұрын
Terry Pratchett was angry with the world, but seemed to like people.
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 6 жыл бұрын
It seems all good writers will have their work and actions deliberately misread.
@MrRKWRIGHT
@MrRKWRIGHT 6 жыл бұрын
Good call - Beat me to it. Was just about ready to throw that one in. Here's a pretty good explanation of what Sarte was getting at: www.the-philosophy.com/sartre-hell-is-other-people
@hiko73
@hiko73 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but hate it all not just those with different skin colors, religions, or lacking of a penis....
@grammaton6leric
@grammaton6leric 6 жыл бұрын
TheLobstersoup That is certainly an arguable point.
@Icebear-lu6ho
@Icebear-lu6ho 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Nicholson being scared of another human being is weird since he plays the crazy scary one
@grimtheghastly8878
@grimtheghastly8878 6 жыл бұрын
I think it is very important to distinguish the artist from their art. For example, H.P. Lovecraft was apparently a racist, homophobic xenophobe (and unlike a certain subset of people I am using those terms in their *ORIGINAL* definition) but Call of Cthulhu is still one of my personal favorite books to read every Halloween despite the fact that as a black bisexual woman he probably would not have liked me very much. Just because an artist harbors an opinion you personally disagree with or has done something questionable does not mean their work is automatically shit.
@dzyanist
@dzyanist 5 жыл бұрын
Grim the Ghastly..: VERY well said !!!
@dukadarodear2176
@dukadarodear2176 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. One of my favourite authors is Eric Blair /G Orwell. Yet he hated the first and closest nation to Britain that suffered genocide, theft of land and starvation at its hands - my country Ireland. Strange that he would have sympathy for the down-trodden everywhere else. Perhaps his family were old English Colonists who made their fortune robbing Ireland. But he's still one of my favourite writers.
@pagethreemodel
@pagethreemodel 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think that a white person would read the works of a black writer who was notoriously and openly prejudice towards whites and died without any regret as to feeling the way they did about whites? In fact I doubt it. But do you boo.
@duncangriffiths4399
@duncangriffiths4399 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Similar story with Robert E Howard.
@doublehsword6508
@doublehsword6508 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@walkertongdee
@walkertongdee 5 жыл бұрын
“Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.”
@stevenblack1903
@stevenblack1903 3 жыл бұрын
Failed writer makes shitty video.
@meow121.5
@meow121.5 2 жыл бұрын
what a roast, one of the best i've ever seen
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 3 ай бұрын
Doug Walker?
@walkertongdee
@walkertongdee 3 ай бұрын
@@zackpumpkinhead8882 Nope, Sean Walker.
@rangerripcheese3511
@rangerripcheese3511 6 жыл бұрын
“Roald Dahl, author of James and the Giant Peach, Matilda, and The BFG” forgetting something?
@KTSpeedruns
@KTSpeedruns 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing I never actually treat an artist’s work as being them literally. I don’t idolize an artist because of their work. I prefer to like the works, not the person. Example, I prefer to like pieces of music, not idolize the people making it.
@evanrayswenson
@evanrayswenson Жыл бұрын
Good trait
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor 5 ай бұрын
That's the way to do it!
@8House
@8House 6 жыл бұрын
OK. Orwell is a bad guy for outing Soviets and Hemingway is another bad guy for working for them. This is a $hit video.
@kakstin
@kakstin 6 жыл бұрын
It's about betrayal. Orwell of his friends and Hemingway of his country.
@hiko73
@hiko73 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard that about your mothers pron vid's ;)
@muxperience
@muxperience 6 жыл бұрын
the Information Research Department wasn't like the McCarthy-driven purges in the U.S. It was an anti-propaganda and infiltration outfit, and Orwell's work didn't betray other writers so much as exclude communists from an anti-soviet organization So unlike what Kazan did in the red scare, Orwell's actions were far more limited in scope and in effect. he didn't land people in jail
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 6 жыл бұрын
The "McCarthy-driven purges" weren't McCarthy-driven. He grabbed attention like cheap entertainers grab it today. The HUAC was doing serious work because the Soviets were doing serious work in Hollywood. Just as Russia did on facebook, etc. Elia Kazan had first-hand knowledge of what was happening in Hollywood. This was verified by the Venona papers that come out after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
I am not sure that is correct! I agree with the last part though!
@maxmilburn4046
@maxmilburn4046 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t write jokes - reference rick and morty
@bipinsamsohang
@bipinsamsohang 6 жыл бұрын
I hate that I clicked this
@ArcAngle111
@ArcAngle111 6 жыл бұрын
bipin samsohang why?
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
Sad propaganda about some great writers! Sad!
@keyboardcorrector2340
@keyboardcorrector2340 5 жыл бұрын
I hate that I finished it.
@kathifidalgo0
@kathifidalgo0 4 жыл бұрын
@@taramahoney3368 awww can't handle the truth
@zd4v1d
@zd4v1d 4 жыл бұрын
@@kathifidalgo0 Aw, can't tolerate history without revising it.
@mmmoroi
@mmmoroi 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder when they will start accusing Willaim Shakespear and Charles Dickens for The Merchant of Venice and Christmas Carol, respectively?
@Anna-xh6fk
@Anna-xh6fk 2 жыл бұрын
Dicken’s Jewish acquaintances were like wtf with the depiction of Fagin in Oliver and he was called out in his own time (he gave a pretty typical, celebrity, half-assed apology, but did improve his depictions in later works). Racism has always been bad and people have always been anti-racist (wether or not their voices are those that are listened to now, as you clearly think everybody was somehow on board back then). People have talked about Merchant of Venice since it came out as well but guess what? When it came out there were literally no Jewish people in England cause they were FORCIBLY REMOVED SINCE THE 13TH CENTURY. Like bruh what’s ur lame ass point?
@mmmoroi
@mmmoroi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anna-xh6fk  "When it came out there were literally no Jewish people in England" which was why Shakespear had to stage this drama in the 16th century Venice, IMHO.
@desherman9526
@desherman9526 6 жыл бұрын
Orwell calling out commies does not make him bad in my book.
@fauxmanchu8094
@fauxmanchu8094 6 жыл бұрын
DE Sherman Orwell was not against socialism but like many other on the left at that time despised the Soviet Union under Stalin and the reign of terror.
@mizofan
@mizofan 6 жыл бұрын
he also called out the faults of capitalism, many of which can be seen in 1984 and in today's reality (in Animal Farm too)
@TheFreemanAlways
@TheFreemanAlways 6 жыл бұрын
NORWAY IS NOT SOCIALIST, GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS ARE NOT SOCIALIST, BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT SOCIALIST. socialism's goal is a non-capitalist govenment-less society, or in other words, communism.
@Pfisiar22
@Pfisiar22 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but participating in a government sponsered black list and contributing to the red scare does not make him look good either.
@AIWARAS619
@AIWARAS619 5 жыл бұрын
Pfisiar22 It is not a "scare" when you are talking about one of the greatest evils in human history that stands on the same level as Nazis and colonization of Americas.
@TheAuntieBa
@TheAuntieBa 5 жыл бұрын
Roald Dahl (aka Saki) was married to actress Patricia Neal when she had her devastating stroke. In ‘support’ of her, he bullied her terribly about her physical therapy. She credited. him with amazing recovery - and divorced him.
@valerieneal2747
@valerieneal2747 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. He was so horrid to her.
@Pantano63
@Pantano63 9 ай бұрын
Saki was H. H. Munro, not Roald Dahl.
@janetaldrich7747
@janetaldrich7747 2 ай бұрын
Dahl wasn't Saki. Saki was H. H. Munro.
@thedeepfriar745
@thedeepfriar745 6 жыл бұрын
With great artistic talent also comes a lot of demons and mental instability, we can commend them for their works and also accept for the completely complicated and flawed individuals that they are. We can praise their work while condemning their behavior.
@re1010
@re1010 6 жыл бұрын
Hemingway is a terrible person because he was a low level spy for the KGB? Just because you join a horrible group doesn't mean you're a horrible person. Want proof: the actor who played Goldfinger, he was a party member but protected some Jewish people, Schienlier anyone, and Reinhard Heinrich's brother made false passports to help those considered "inferior" to escape. All these men join a horrible organization but had no intent to do harm. As I said, Ernest was low level, probably because he didn't want to kill anyone.
@oodlesandoddles806
@oodlesandoddles806 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Dahl has been proven strict and many angry problems after the war and I look at ever interview of Dahl and he was not at all racist he got annoyed in the interview you allowed though cause the reporter kept interrupting him Edit: all the stuff he said was written by just random people
@randyowens3419
@randyowens3419 4 жыл бұрын
"The arrogance of the present", is what I call it, judging the past with current social mores is completely idiotic. Wait 50 years and see what they think of you then.
@stuartbritton7408
@stuartbritton7408 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Today's generation is scum. We'd be better off without them. If there's anything good about them, it's fake. Listen to David Icke.
@shomershabbos6291
@shomershabbos6291 3 жыл бұрын
There's far more awareness today, but being racist, violent, a complete asshole or being a pedo was never okay, it's also very easy to justify it by saying it was the past and things were different, without actually thinking about it more deeply and realizing that those things weren't okay back than, and they weren't as common as you'd want to believe
@dylansharp3086
@dylansharp3086 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartbritton7408 shut up
@stuartbritton7408
@stuartbritton7408 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylansharp3086 ?
@iranianintelligenceagency9337
@iranianintelligenceagency9337 2 жыл бұрын
@@shomershabbos6291 being racist had been okay for much longer than it hasn't buddy. I don't know where you got that from. Otherwise, I agree
@ombrenightcores4153
@ombrenightcores4153 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised about Salinger. Catcher In The Rye has a ton of predatory undertones, from both perspectives. Clearly it was on his mind.
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 5 жыл бұрын
I live in the neighborhood where Hunter S. Thompson grew up, and people here sometimes get chills down their spine when you speak his name. Though some tales of his teen misdeeds are false, there is no question he was violent and abusive.
@Ian-yf7uf
@Ian-yf7uf Жыл бұрын
Good art comes from troubled people.
@thebasedgodmax1163
@thebasedgodmax1163 Жыл бұрын
@@Ian-yf7uf that's nonsense
@Ian-yf7uf
@Ian-yf7uf Жыл бұрын
@@thebasedgodmax1163 not at all. You'd be hard pressed to find a good literary figure who didn't have demons in their life.
@darwinxke2827
@darwinxke2827 Жыл бұрын
YOUD BE “HARD PRESSED” to find anyone that didn’t have demons in their life!
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 Жыл бұрын
@@Ian-yf7uf Did Steven King or Ernest Hemingway ever rob a store at gunpoint? Hunter Thompson said he did as a teenager. He also said he broke into several businesses at night to steal cash. He was never caught, but he insisted he did all these things. There are troubled people, and people who cause troubles for others because of the lack of empathy. Don't confuse pointing a gun at a person and putting them within seconds of the end of their life with being quirky or colorful.
@j.9889
@j.9889 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I don't think Hunter S. Thompson ever claimed to be a good guy.
@CurtisAlfeld
@CurtisAlfeld 5 жыл бұрын
He truly was the best example of a human.
@jerryrichardson2799
@jerryrichardson2799 4 жыл бұрын
True.
@DingDongfootballl
@DingDongfootballl 3 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant mind.
@apanapandottir205
@apanapandottir205 6 жыл бұрын
Orwell is a goddamn hero.
@TheFreemanAlways
@TheFreemanAlways 6 жыл бұрын
all these people forgetting that he is still was anti-capitalist( not like its a bad thing)
@drumyogi9281
@drumyogi9281 6 жыл бұрын
ForTheWatching i think you didn't read much of his work. He was a Socialist but changed his toon and wrote extensively about it. That was kind of the point with Orwell... while intellectuals in the west were still believing in Soviet lies Orwell wrote about the tragedies. That is like saying Yuri Bezminov was a Socialist. 'Was' is vague in it was a past but the change is the important part and why they changed.
@davidsprenkle2641
@davidsprenkle2641 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Bay. I've read almost everything Orwell wrote. He was from a working class background and was both anti-fascist and anti-authoritarian (hence anti-Soviet). He was always a pro-working man European-style socialist, but he was also certainly anti-Soviet and anti-propaganda of all sorts. He was certainly not some sort of libertarian, as some people seem to assume.
@hannahdyson5603
@hannahdyson5603 6 жыл бұрын
I am from Wigan and he was generally seen as a red herring who did feck all in reality . He was in fact a snob who thought he new what people needed better than the people themselves
@danscott7
@danscott7 6 жыл бұрын
Orwell is a goddamn hypocrite. He preached against people not being allowed freedom of thought and expression in his novels, then he did his damnedest to get people who punished for expressing their beliefs in real life. You're missing the bigger picture.
@tammeraespinal8675
@tammeraespinal8675 6 жыл бұрын
I think you should add Harlan Ellison to this list. I met him one time and he walked into a room full of people and insulted my appearance forr no reason at all.
@MichaelDavis-cy4ok
@MichaelDavis-cy4ok 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, the example from White Fang isn't racist. It's recognition of how horribly the native tribes in Alaska lived under White rule. It's exactly how things would have looked to an outside observer at the time. London might have been a racist, but this example is complete misinterpretation.
@almishti
@almishti 5 жыл бұрын
The essay he wrote when Jack Johnson, I think his name was, a black man, became World heavyweight boxing champion, would've been a much better example. He called for a white man to step up and defend the 'honor' and 'superiority' of the white race by beating the shit out of Jack Johnson, who was called all manner of terrible things.
@valerieneal2747
@valerieneal2747 2 жыл бұрын
@@almishti Thanks so much for dropping facts. The knowledge that Jack Johnson beat the tar out of a white boxer incensed London.
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
Whitesplain harder Cletus
@jrabele
@jrabele 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're a bit hard on Jack London. If he was racist it was not central to his work. He had a very ruff childhood and died at the age of 40 and he also abused women. What most people hold against him is that he was a revolutionary socialist. I think he is underrated as a writer and have always found his work informative and rewarding.
@jamesrogers5277
@jamesrogers5277 3 ай бұрын
You mean he had a very “RUFF!” childhood…
@lucielouise2008
@lucielouise2008 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Seuss cheated on his wife while she was suffering from cancer for 13 years. She ended up committing suicide, then he married his mistress.
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor 5 ай бұрын
And she was a married woman and a friend of them both. She had 2 daughters from a previous marriage and after marrying Ted (Dr Seuss ) sent them to a boarding school. They were 9 and 14. She said that they would not have liked him, and he would not have liked them, as he was uneasy around children.
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy 6 жыл бұрын
In the case of George Orwell, I think what he did was more out of his experience with the Communist Party. He himself was never a Communist and seemed to dislike the direction where they were going. He was definitely anti-fascist but also against totalitarianism in general and his experiences while he was fighting in Spain with the anarchist POUM defined his experiences and in the war which he wrote about in his book Homage to Catalonia and at one point he and his people were accused by the Soviets (who dominated the Republican side of the war) of being Trotsky followers and they found themselves hunted by the police. With all that in mind he definitely did not trust anyone who was Communist and he might have suspected them of being agents for the Soviet Union, which is not entirely unfounded since many considered that Moscow controlled the Communist Party outside of the Soviet Union. Personally I think he had a different view that most people had and his becoming an informer was more due to his experiences rather than the desire to betray for his own safety. Reading any of his famous books like Animal Farm will more or less answer the reasons for his anti-Communist feelings which actually were different than someone from a Right wing perspective. I suppose you might say he betrayed the ones he thought were betrayers.
@jessmith390
@jessmith390 6 жыл бұрын
schizoidboy Right-wing perspective No.Got that wrong.
@denisenova7494
@denisenova7494 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I see nothing wrong about Orwell's actions and I think he's genius.
@babyeater639
@babyeater639 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessmith390 what?
@beeroftherat1
@beeroftherat1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm always wary of these kinds of videos, because they're highly sensational and don't paint a very full picture. I strongly recommend taking this with a grain of salt.
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend you stop being a biased white fragility racist
@beeroftherat1
@beeroftherat1 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachkate76 Critical thinking and reservation of judgment now equals racism, apparently. How disconcerting.
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
@@beeroftherat1 imagine having to play word salad bs to desperately try to pretend that bigotry and fReE sPeEcH are the same thing. You same wankstains play persecution oLyMpIcS when anything is said about inbred mayo supremacy. 🤔
@beeroftherat1
@beeroftherat1 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachkate76 Have a Snickers.
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
@@beeroftherat1 I said what I said Cletus. Read it again and cry.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Hunter S. Thompson’s hometown, just a couple if blocks from his childhood home, in fact. People here shudder when they hear his name. He robbed a store at gunpoint and burglarized others (he admitted all this) and was accused of beating up a child in a park. He was never a decent or accountable person.
@theghostofchristmaspast293
@theghostofchristmaspast293 6 жыл бұрын
This is just making my Life more Depressing.
@knelle1114
@knelle1114 6 жыл бұрын
William S Burroughs was living in Lawrence, KS when my mom was going to school there. She met him a two different occasions, she said he was a really mean guy. He was terrible to the staff at the restaurant she worked at and was terrible to the people at the hospital she was working at.
@knelle1114
@knelle1114 6 жыл бұрын
How is a nurse common trash? Burroughs was a mediocre writer, a trust fund brat, and a murderer. Not someone to be proud of.
@kephahor4251
@kephahor4251 6 жыл бұрын
And he shot Joan vollmer, his girlfriend, in a "william Tell " act in a Mexican bar--and actually got away with it.
@dickgreen5914
@dickgreen5914 6 жыл бұрын
Opioids can make people really bitchy when theyre high and especially when theyre sober. Needless to say he did lot's of opioids
@robertlawson682
@robertlawson682 6 жыл бұрын
She was his wife and he shot her in their living room.
@lizatanzawa7910
@lizatanzawa7910 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like him. And he wrote "Down and Out in Paris and London", where he bemoaned the treatment of waiters and kitchen help. Hypocrite.
@SuperEvilduck
@SuperEvilduck 6 жыл бұрын
>having a political viewpoint that differs from mine makes you a monster.
@agentjs09
@agentjs09 2 ай бұрын
Jack London was self-described amoral. When his first wife got mad at him for going out at nights and philandering, he told her that morality is just a sign of low blood pressure.
@markukrainetz5058
@markukrainetz5058 5 жыл бұрын
I've never read White Fang, and I had no idea it was written from the dog's POV. I'll have to pick that up. Thanks Grunge.
@valerieneal2747
@valerieneal2747 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you read London's essay "Salt of The Earth". It will open your eyes. He was a racist
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of racism in Call of the Wild too. Glad it was remade with less racism last year- no wonder the white supremacists went batshit crazy and hated it.
@mickeyfinn8956
@mickeyfinn8956 11 ай бұрын
It’s a great read, a classic.
@extantia
@extantia 6 жыл бұрын
Orwell referenced Yevgeny Zamyatin's "We" in the writing of "1984", though not as heavily as Ayn Rand did with "Anthem." With that said, I did enjoy his nonfiction works "Such, Such Were the Joys" ,"The Road to Wigan Pier" and "Down and Out in Paris and London."
@patchfile
@patchfile 6 жыл бұрын
Was really expecting to see Lovecraft in this video.
@leanacarter428
@leanacarter428 5 жыл бұрын
Just BECAUSE some PEOPLE are very talented that DOESN'T mean they are Nice ,RESPECTFUL PEOPLE.
@mr.smokey2130
@mr.smokey2130 4 жыл бұрын
As a retired teacher it horrifies me to learn Roald Dahl was such a creep!
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
So was Jack London the proud racist
@blacksmithorange8906
@blacksmithorange8906 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised Lovecraft (although I do admire his work) didn’t make this list.
@douglasskinner
@douglasskinner 6 жыл бұрын
Millennial history especially with regard to Orwell.
@bananafanafoferry6970
@bananafanafoferry6970 5 жыл бұрын
“I’d rather be fried alive and eaten by Mexicans” is actually in reference to something people in Mexico actually do. They eat fried grasshoppers and crickets. How is that even a racist thing for the grasshopper to say?
@jomama5186
@jomama5186 6 жыл бұрын
Oooooooooo! What buggers! Fascinating & great narratives! Bravo!
@francescahuawei4194
@francescahuawei4194 6 жыл бұрын
Hemingway was a "typical man" of his time when it came to his treatment of women and tastes, he hated the American state, he practically lived in Cuba, some of his books were awful and it's not a secrete he was an alcoholic or drank too much. I'm sorry to say that Salinger's behaviour with girls was not that different in comparison to some of his peers, to some pockets of his society, not just men, 14 yo girls were considered "fair game" in dating
@fauxmanchu8094
@fauxmanchu8094 6 жыл бұрын
Francesca huawei Hemingway suffered from severe depression.
@tessie7e
@tessie7e 6 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is read these men’s works and know they were twisted. Catcher made me uncomfortable when I read it as a 14 year old girl for school- I could tell Salinger hadn’t grown up and it creeped me out.
@pepefrogic3034
@pepefrogic3034 2 жыл бұрын
This is sheer biased nonsense. Not convincing at all...
@veronicalloyd7902
@veronicalloyd7902 6 жыл бұрын
Who shocked me the most? All of them.. How can geniuses be so ignorant?
@marissabones
@marissabones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video 🙃
@chadinmich1
@chadinmich1 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t think Hunter S Thompson was a jerk, so much as mentally unstable. I found him kinda likable, but crazy
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
The Drugs he took complicated it!
@chadinmich1
@chadinmich1 6 жыл бұрын
Tara Mahoney True. I don’t think he treated his wives very well, but I don’t think he was a jerk or terrible person generally speaking
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe not! I'll look into him to find out more! You may be right!
@charleswarren1901
@charleswarren1901 6 жыл бұрын
The guy was on drugs.
@jessemorton-kopiasz962
@jessemorton-kopiasz962 4 жыл бұрын
I literally laughed out loud before the narrator said, "Very funny Thompson, but you're the only one laughing." Apparently not Mr. Snowflake.
@josephconder9074
@josephconder9074 6 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with what Eric Blair (George Orwell) did.
@mortalhellion
@mortalhellion 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the interlude with the Dalek. Should have sent a Dalek to some of these authors for a visit.
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
NO!!!! PLEASE NO! They Murder my Musical ear! I am surprised my ears aren't bleeding!
@johngarbarini8474
@johngarbarini8474 5 жыл бұрын
Hunter S Thompson staged human hunting parties on his farm. He made snuff films of these hunts, and sold them for big money. What a creep, and he got away with this.
@brianknight5043
@brianknight5043 6 жыл бұрын
Some of these examples are a little overstated for example if someone like orwell is against a particular ideology why does pointing out people who may hold that ideology make you a jerk?
@1996koke
@1996koke 6 жыл бұрын
Some of these seemed exaggerated, for example I found funny the part of the grasshopper, as a Mexican I admit, some of us eat grasshoppers and we don't feel offended if someone says that
@loki2240
@loki2240 6 жыл бұрын
jorge .espinosa de los monteros - It's also a matter of whether malice is intended. I have African American heritage and I like fried chicken and watermelon. But that's also been used as a malicious stereotype against African Americans - even though Americans in general like fried chicken and watermelon. And actually, I hardly ever eat fried chicken because it's unhealthy. But it still tastes good, when properly prepared.
@maxvilla5558
@maxvilla5558 6 жыл бұрын
jorge .espinosa de los monteros Coco
@jpgabriele9596
@jpgabriele9596 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my ! this is soooooo interesting!
@Greencarnation1000
@Greencarnation1000 6 жыл бұрын
They criticised Orwell for ‘grassing’ on Communists, then immediately complained that Hemingway joined a Communist organisation. Strange.
@rimnodpresents2724
@rimnodpresents2724 6 жыл бұрын
How could you manage to get so much so wrong?
@snusnumcgee9843
@snusnumcgee9843 4 жыл бұрын
Notice that all of the people they picked on were men? Women are perfect
@nerd_alert927
@nerd_alert927 4 жыл бұрын
They couldn't be bothered to do proper research. Which is evident in most of their videos.
@snusnumcgee9843
@snusnumcgee9843 4 жыл бұрын
Jack London wasn’t a white supremacist. God forbid someone actually accurately report how things were among the Alaskan Natives he spent time with at that time. They mistreated their animals and saw them as work animals to be treated poorly, then killed. He wrote about what he experienced. Unlike today where people have to glorify certain people for political correctness, leading to a very misleading view of certain people who we can now never ever ever criticize even if they do things wrong in front of our eyes
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug Cletus
@extantia
@extantia 6 жыл бұрын
Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye", what little I read of it, seemed like a mediocre version of Dostoevkiy's "Notes from Underground" which preceded it by about 87 years. So no love lost there...
@charleswarren1901
@charleswarren1901 5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad read. What was strange was how he became such a recluse after he'd won fame for it. There was a guy who'd made friends with him, and who'd spoke to him about "Catcher," when no one else could. I think it appeared in "Playboy."
@thetruedirtythirties9885
@thetruedirtythirties9885 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I like these shows. My uncle is Richard Gehman who left his wife Estelle Getty for my aunt. They met at 18, had a love affair and then met 20 years later. He was bffs with Fitzgerald who would come to my dads home. Drunks. Richard died of complications from alcoholism.
@gibsongirldaydream
@gibsongirldaydream 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't mention that Hemingway's daughters said that they were molested by him. It lead to one of his daughters committing suicide later in life.
@MirrorevO
@MirrorevO Жыл бұрын
hemingway didn't have daughters, this story is about his son jack who did that, don't make accusations when you don't know your shit
@connorhayes4923
@connorhayes4923 6 жыл бұрын
It’s quite fitting that Salinger was bad person, since his most popular book was pretty bad too.
@crs290
@crs290 6 жыл бұрын
Hated Catcher, and the people I knew who loved it...unpleasant (to say the least.)
@bridgieoh9326
@bridgieoh9326 5 жыл бұрын
I never understood why people liked Catcher. I hated it. Caufield was a whiny b*tch.
@janosk8392
@janosk8392 6 жыл бұрын
Your representations of London & Dhal are silly & likely out of context, and heresay to boot for most of them.
@mery5989
@mery5989 3 жыл бұрын
right? everything else was so inaccurate, there's no way dahl actually said that! the things that came before where fine, I mean he's an author can you really blame him for fighting with publishers, but if he'd said that sentence the was the bad thing why didn't we see video of that? I would bet it isn't true
@mellakat80
@mellakat80 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that H.P. Lovecraft was a heavy supporter of eugenics
@valerieneal2747
@valerieneal2747 2 жыл бұрын
So was Jack London.
@julianterris
@julianterris 6 жыл бұрын
The great thing about You Tube is that anyone with a computer, internet, and editing software can say whatever they like. The worst thing about You Tube is that anyone with a computer, internet, and editing software can say whatever they like.
@gryphonofmight
@gryphonofmight 6 жыл бұрын
What orwell did doesn't sound terrible at all.
@TheLobstersoup
@TheLobstersoup 6 жыл бұрын
He ruined writers lifes and carreers based on nothing but his own high and mighty "feelings" about their political orientation; completely arbitrary. And even if they were communists, they were living in a democracy, which is the form of state that actually thrives from different opinions and a broad political spectrum. The only bad democracy is one that tries to force its subjects and other countries into submission; because that is known as fashism.
@gryphonofmight
@gryphonofmight 6 жыл бұрын
its spelled Fascism dear
@redpiper9836
@redpiper9836 6 жыл бұрын
gryphonofmight Right sentences, dear
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 6 жыл бұрын
If he had done the exact same thing to people with Nazi sympathies he'd be regarded as a hero for it.
@loki2240
@loki2240 6 жыл бұрын
gryphonofmight - Your post should've been written as "It's spelled "fascism," dear." And it was lame to even make such a response, as it was clear from the video what was wrong with Orwell's behavior, and the other poster explained it to you in a little more detail. You had poor comprehension of the issue, and then you decided to nitpick someone's spelling after they took the time to explain it to you - and you corrected them incorrectly.
@tahitislim25
@tahitislim25 6 жыл бұрын
Roald Dahl was Norwegian. His name was actually pronounced "roo-al"
@kephahor4251
@kephahor4251 6 жыл бұрын
He was a Brit of Norwegian parentage. Min Mor, Gud Hvile henne, ver en Norske Jente.
@tahitislim25
@tahitislim25 6 жыл бұрын
Kepha Hor Takk for din gode kommentar. Jubel! 😊
@WRPUS471
@WRPUS471 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like Jack London understood the Chinese before the rest of us. Racism is always truth.
@Uncle-Mike
@Uncle-Mike 6 жыл бұрын
Some of the best painters, authors, singers, sculptors, doctors, lawyers, Kings and Presidents were, privately, really awful humans. But some people want to forget about their art, their music, the lives they've saved and improved, the nations they built and the contributions they've made to society and focus instead on trivial bullshit.
@TheLloydro
@TheLloydro 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong. George Orwell did not sell out other writers. The lists he had were private and were used to guess which writers were Communists/Fascists. He DID NOT SELL OUT FELLOW WRITERS. Interestingly it turned out he was right about the writers in most cases.
@charleswarren1901
@charleswarren1901 6 жыл бұрын
He was dead at 38.
@tealsoda
@tealsoda 3 жыл бұрын
Goddamn, I bet Jack Nicholson could tell some amazing stories about so many people. Too bad he hasn't written an autobiography or something
@eduhub8508
@eduhub8508 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing bro...
@CW-dl2dd
@CW-dl2dd 9 ай бұрын
Thompson may have been a terrible person, but his "in a democracy, you have to be a player" line is based...
@joshuaprice8501
@joshuaprice8501 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that we now demand our artists to follow orthodoxy and be "good" people is why there are so few great (known) artists today.
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor
@AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor 5 ай бұрын
You don't have to be a jerk to be a good artist. That's not how this works.
@francescahuawei4194
@francescahuawei4194 6 жыл бұрын
what's wrong with openly speaking about your hate for autocratic states?
@fauxmanchu8094
@fauxmanchu8094 6 жыл бұрын
Francesca huawei I would define the U.S. as an autocratic state.
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
Good Point!
@RainsWorldVegasSlots
@RainsWorldVegasSlots 4 жыл бұрын
Who ISNT accused of being racist back then and now. It’s outa control
@jevon1007
@jevon1007 Жыл бұрын
London also covered the James Jeffries vs Jack Johnson fight. "But one thing now remains, Jim Jeffries must now emerge from his alfalfa farm and remove that golden smile from Jack Johnson’s face. Jeff, it’s up to you. The white man must be rescued." - Novelist Jack London after Johnson had won the title in 1908. "I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro." - Jim Jeffries before the fight.
@kelligray1848
@kelligray1848 6 жыл бұрын
Ronald Dahl was actually named after my great grandma's uncle Roald Amundsen the famous explorer. Uncle Roald was NOT an asshole though, he was an adventurous, loving man. He passed down many traits on my Dads side.
@ggallintedtalk
@ggallintedtalk 2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit.. he was horrible
@rachkate76
@rachkate76 2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏽‍♀️
@tre243t
@tre243t 6 жыл бұрын
this is total bollocks!
@theflaggedyoutuberii4311
@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 5 жыл бұрын
Why
@sullyb23511
@sullyb23511 6 жыл бұрын
God, the section in this video discussing London made me so sad. I'm crushed. :-(
@jimparsons6803
@jimparsons6803 4 жыл бұрын
An eye opener. Did not know this. I guess I've lead a sheltered life. Interesting that these folks ended up with fame and or fortune? How does that happen?
@richardroberson2564
@richardroberson2564 5 жыл бұрын
1984 and animal farm are actually some of the most entertaining books ive ever read. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good read.
@khalidhenry3857
@khalidhenry3857 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Cartman would have LOVED Roald Dahl
@pineapplepenumbra
@pineapplepenumbra 6 жыл бұрын
Ah *hate* Hippies!!!
@rokyericksonroks
@rokyericksonroks 6 жыл бұрын
Grunge channel is not really that cool. A couple of vids are okay though.
@fozzieatdetourbillnye5514
@fozzieatdetourbillnye5514 6 жыл бұрын
Khalid Henry I cant approve of what Dahl said but I don't really think he's a monster. I think he's a man who was viewing the world the way you were told to in a different time. Its basically the idea of people today calling gay wrong and using the bible as an excuse. You're taught someone is wrong so you're convinced. (I in no way am against gay marriage just so you know) Anyway the video clearly states his wife told him to be careful what you say.
@pineapplepenumbra
@pineapplepenumbra 6 жыл бұрын
FozzieatDetour BillNye Although I thumbed you up, I have to say that following what society around you says isn't a valid excuse. For example, my girlfriend's mum grew up surrounded by people who though foxhunting was ok, and some of the vermin even engaged in the cruel, cowardly, perverted pursuit, but she still thought for herself and realised that it was wrong. All throughout history, there have been individuals who have thought processes not only far ahead of their own times, but also, in many cases, more advanced than many people nowadays. I know that most people give in to the pressure to conform, but people like Roald Dahl are, or should be, independent thinkers, strong enough to see through the bullshit of the day. Also the very fact that you put that his wife warned him to be careful shows that his views weren't accepted during his (later?) life.
@charleswarren1901
@charleswarren1901 6 жыл бұрын
I liked him.
@BilltheButcher1855
@BilltheButcher1855 6 жыл бұрын
If I met Bill Murray...the chair is right there and the pool there. Let’s do comedy a favor
@SG-xe1mv
@SG-xe1mv 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest crime in the 21st century is to offend
@Phobero
@Phobero 6 жыл бұрын
So Orwell was also a hero? Good to know!
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 6 жыл бұрын
Wait on: Orwell worked for the Ministry of Propaganda BEFORE he wrote Nineteen Eighty-Four. So he would have based it on his experiences there. And in Nineteen Eighty-Four (spoiler alert) Winston breaks down and betrays his comrade. If anything, the book is a mea culpa for what he did during the war.
@ursamagick6110
@ursamagick6110 6 жыл бұрын
Jaq Tweedie. Nobody likes a rat.🐭
@MsVorpalBlade
@MsVorpalBlade 6 жыл бұрын
ursa magick I can't be doing with rodents. I would have folded too.
@ursamagick6110
@ursamagick6110 6 жыл бұрын
Jaq Tweedie, I would have folded at 🕸🕷
@taramahoney3368
@taramahoney3368 6 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but you cannot be sure! I don't know about that theory! It is interesting though!
@theduchessofspring2395
@theduchessofspring2395 6 жыл бұрын
I'm perplexed as to why Charles Dickens isn't on this list. He was awful to his wife and even their children said he could care less about them.
@Kikyolover9
@Kikyolover9 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised dr. Seuss isn't on the list
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that there were no women on this list?
@CornishCreamtea07
@CornishCreamtea07 6 жыл бұрын
I am not aware of any famous female writers who were terrible people, but then again I didn't know about some of the people on this list. I've heard some people claim that Agatha Christie was terrible, but that is based on her works, rather than her personal life.
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 6 жыл бұрын
Your Favorite Crazy Sadistic Lover That’s so old.
@crs290
@crs290 6 жыл бұрын
Double standard. Patricia Highsmith, Ayn Rand to name a couple.
@R.M.MacFru
@R.M.MacFru 6 жыл бұрын
CornishCreamtea07 ...Marion Zimmer Bradley. She and her husband used her influence to molest children.
@drexelmildraff7580
@drexelmildraff7580 6 жыл бұрын
Patricia Highsmith -- The Talented Mr. Ripely -- would be a good choice. She was a vicious anti-Semite.
@alistairbain6149
@alistairbain6149 4 жыл бұрын
Hunter S. Thompson is great only in the eyes of his fan club 🙄
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 11 ай бұрын
Honorable mention: Lewis Carrol, author of "Alice In Wonderland"..his hobby was photographing pre-pubesent young girls.
@jamesguthrel5015
@jamesguthrel5015 4 жыл бұрын
grunge is another form of brain washing we all fucked up but lived and got taken out of context
@anthonyfox585
@anthonyfox585 6 жыл бұрын
okay so the ompa lompas were pygmies that in and of itself isn't racist, I'm​ not saying rald dahl was or wasn't racist
@healinggrounds19
@healinggrounds19 6 жыл бұрын
Anton Fuchs black pygmies. Seriously dude? That isn't racist? GTFO.
@redpiper9836
@redpiper9836 6 жыл бұрын
Talented people are not usually good people
@redpiper9836
@redpiper9836 6 жыл бұрын
oceanblueharmony and why so ?
@francescahuawei4194
@francescahuawei4194 6 жыл бұрын
not true
@fernthegreenfairy
@fernthegreenfairy 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a shit stereotype
@loki2240
@loki2240 6 жыл бұрын
Red Piper - What are you basing that on?
@sansam358
@sansam358 6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of bad people who is untalented, but you don't know them because they aren't famous.
@siren7362
@siren7362 5 жыл бұрын
the only one i'm really scandalized by is Salingers. hebephilia is on a whole different level than questionable pranks or being a jerk
@reptomicus
@reptomicus 6 жыл бұрын
Some? More like most. If you wanted to avoid creative works by awful people your bookshelf, music and movie collection would be empty.
@mrm2542
@mrm2542 4 жыл бұрын
Lol everyone knew that about Roald Dahl and Jack London 😂
@martinhanley9524
@martinhanley9524 2 жыл бұрын
A woke fifth columner we got here
@steerpike66
@steerpike66 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody who thinks writers 'live in their heads' and don't know the world and people is no writer.
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